The suckers that donated money to Anita and her handler did get something in return, fuel for their self-righteous narcissism. Everything else is just inconsequential details to them.
Yeah but $160,000
Does it really cost that much to make 12 videos on youtube?
Yeah but $160,000
Does it really cost that much to make 12 videos on youtube?
No, but you can get a pretty nice car or two with that amount. Maybe a sweet little vacation too.
The suckers that donated money to Anita and her handler did get something in return, fuel for their self-righteous narcissism. Everything else is just inconsequential details to them.
But they said I'm only one "Audit" away from reducing my Cisscum levels to the point that I can join their special club!
I don't blame her as much as I blame the garbage video game press for defending her uninformed opinions.
You won't have to worry about the game press for much longer. A combination of the rise of youtubers like total biscuit, companies cutting out the middleman altogether like Nintendo with "nintendo direct", it being shown that reviews don't influence sales all that much and those with contempt for the gaming audience like Leigh Alexander fleeing like cockroaches, proves that their days are numbered.
you see those photos of the litterery who's with how they spent there cash?
the thing is she can treat women like children and men like Monsters thats what 3rd wave is about.
Oh but Su loo up the deffanition its about equality for both genders. i hear you cry.
no it may havebeen at one point but it has become this blaim mentality. were the radicals have taken over and no one calls them out
ok let me explain.
You are out with your freind you are both lets say girl / boy scouts and youare in a mall.
the next thing you know your freind has dropped trou and dropped a deuce in an icecreem vendors booth then punched a security guard in the face.
when confronted nost 3rd waveers say."Yeah those are just bad Feminists" rather thad say "Wow uhh she isnt with me and speeka only for herself."
Thats wdat drove me personaly away from the tag. it became more about handouts and being a victim than takeing responceability.
and "Boooo guys suck." than "I can do anything a guy can do."
Nope its all special snowflakes who are soooooooooo frail thay cant de called bossy or lerne science due to Shirts.
hell thay cant even play games because there are girls who are Beach body ready in chainmail bikinis.
haha I've played Catherine it's different for sure.
I have also played with a Catherine heh heh. 
Has she spoken about Catherine at all? I don't care about anything else she does anymore, but it would amuse me greatly to hear her impression of that game. If I could get her to sit down & play one game I'd have her play through Catherine. What might she think having to face puzzle gameplay or the consequences with character interactions? It would be funny to see what her choices are & what ending she'd find for herself.
Not that I know of, but she should cover Senran Kagura.
(Semi-NSFW)
Yes. I would actually watch her video if she covered that. It would be glorious.
she should focus on games like the one above honestly, I could give her some slack and understand her reasoning. But when you point out like one level in hitman involving strippers, it just sounds so hen picked.
Never seen these videos myself, always took a backseat in this discussion, because it is just stupid. But i am glad that she got as much resistance as possible from other women out there that actually games and design games.
Anita and Mcintosh have a nice little racket going that's more lucrative than robbing a bank.
Don't know if they ended up actually doing this or not(I don't follow FF) but feminist frequency had intended to sell merchandise in their 2014 report: https://www.dropbox....rt2014.pdf?dl=0(it's in "plans for the future")
you know, isn't the feminist movement kind of sexist in it's own way? Not saying that fighting for equal rights is bad and stuff, but if a campaign based on "maleism" or something took place, everyone one would call it out for it.
Anita and Mcintosh have a nice little racket going that's more lucrative than robbing a bank.
Don't know if they ended up actually doing this or not(I don't follow FF) but feminist frequency had intended to sell merchandise in their 2014 report: https://www.dropbox....rt2014.pdf?dl=0(it's in "plans for the future")
Goodness gracious what kind of merchandise will that be?
Goodness gracious what kind of merchandise will that be?
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Hey a Xena tee could be cool..
I used to watch Xena as a kid(Lucy Lawless looked bangin then).
you know, isn't the feminist movement kind of sexist in it's own way? Not saying that fighting for equal rights is bad and stuff, but if a campaign based on "maleism" or something took place, everyone one would call it out for it.
The reason the feminist movement gets the fight that it does is because it doesn't have a central focus everyone can agree on. They think they do but they don't.
Some feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. Women getting all the privileges males have, but making no motions towards getting men the privileges women have. Thats because they don't like to acknowledge the privileges women have and there are many. They want all the perks but none of the responsibility.
The way feminism here is gonna work is if it aims to do one of two things, and it has to commit to one or the other-
A. Get men the privileges women have, and get women the privileges men have. This way everyone equally is treated the same.
B. Get rid of the privileges men have, and get rid of the privileges women have. That way everyone equally is treated the same.
Problem is, feminism isn't based around one of those. Feminism is partially sexist towards women because it assumes that women are devalued in society and that women have to fight to get to the top in a world that holds them down. Victim complex. In reality, women can succeed just as much as men can, and they have.
Here's a typical exchange with a feminist and a woman who enjoys her role in society.
Feminist- "Hey, why are you sitting at home cleaning and cooking and washing clothes? You can be out there fighting crime, putting out fires, writing laws!"
Woman- "Well, I actually like being at home. I like cleaning my house, I love cooking food for my family, and I wash my children's clothes because it reminds me of my childhood."
Feminist- "See, thats the patriarchy making you like those things. Fight back! Don't let men hold you down!"
And thats a HUGE problem with feminism and where a lot of its critics find fault in it. Rational feminists don't make this mistake, but many feminists do;the mistake being that they don't account for women actually liking the position they are in and choosing to be in it themselves, that being perfectly acceptable.
Some feminists refuse to accept that a woman can like having a traditional female role and choose it themselves, finding their own strength in it. They contort facts and opinions to try to stuff everyone into a single box so they can find justification for their fight.
There's this impression that women make less money than men because "men are baaad" when it just so happens that the jobs women gravitate towards happen to pay less on average. Those jobs don't pay less because women gravitate towards them but because the jobs themselves are not of higher value by use. Compare nurse to surgeon.
Then there's the idea that stay at home moms are only stay at home moms because of this perceived patriarchy(I hate this word) instead of because of the motherly instincts women naturally have.
Feminism in its current form in the States isn't going to work because there's no consistency. There's no driving force that all can agree on. Its just a jumbled mess of some people wanting one thing and others wanting something else. Mix that in with misandrists and crazies and the rational feminists get drowned out by louder voices.
Speaking on rationality, thats another big problem. Feminism has rational feminists with rational minds but the problem is every feminist thinks they are a rational feminist making it hard to weed out the worthy voices.
What we need are feminists who are open minded, don't presume to speak for everyone, are willing to listen to opposing opinions, speak calmly, cleanly, and civilly, hold the level of class they want out of the world they live in, live up to their own ideals, and don't automatically assume they have the right idea.
Basically, feminism needs its Gandhi, its Malcolm X, its Martin Luther King Jr, without their flaws but with all their strengths. But in today's world of mass marketing, social media, and a thousand platforms to share your voice, we have people who shouldn't be speaking up for everyone attempting to do so because they want to be the hero.
But not everyone should pick up the sword. And feminism hasn't figured that out yet. Its a mess in its current state and thats why people hesitate to connect to it.
A poll was done with a sizable number of people interviewed(can't remember where or whom I heard this from on Youtube) but people were asked if they thought men and women should be equal in society and 85% said yes.
I'm sad that wasn't 100%. That should change, and thats something feminism has and should continue to work on.
But of those 85%, they were asked if they identified as feminists, and only 15% said yes. 15% of 85% of a number of people interviewed(men and women).
Flies in the face of one of the biggest false claims by feminists that if you believe in equality for all sexes you are a automatically a feminist, yes?
Feminism needs to drop the forced labeling of outsiders and look within. There's no sense behind its current structure and it could actually accomplish something great if it had a restructuring from the core with a single focus to work towards.
For now, its just a bunch of loud voices saying all sorts of things in a small room and no one can latch on to one for long before a fight breaks out.
Which is why I'll continue to be on the outside looking in. Waiting for the proper warrior to pick up the sword.
true, their direction needs to be more clearly solidified I would say. It also doesn't help that for the most part generally the radicals in the moment are the ones garnering the attention of people, and have thus also become the "feminist stereotype" that tends to be associated with the movement, out-voicing those that might be considerate moderate on the and should be the one getting the most attention.
One question, given the fact that this is a anita sarkeesian thread, I was honestly curious on your opinion of her on the whole matter, if it doesn't trouble you.
One question, given the fact that this is a anita sarkeesian thread, I was honestly curious on your opinion of her on the whole matter, if it doesn't trouble you.
I spelled it out in a post in another thread(bonus points if someone can find it and share it) but long story short, I think Anita is not the best/right person to be speaking for the people/idea she claims to speak for. She has yet to do it without lying, manipulating, contorting, and leading people on while taking all the time in the world to produce content that could be produced in a fraction of that time with a higher quality and not necessitating such exorbitant donations.
I don't think she should stop speaking or that she should get abuse(*expletive* that), but she needs to do it WAAAY better. She hasn't. And thats why she pisses people off. On top of that, people in the industry see her as a martyr or victim so they treat her word like its the word of God when its beyond flawed.
Remember that mess I was talking about earlier? She and those behind her are just as much a part of the mess as anyone else.
I figured as much, unfortunately, like you stated, although she isn't considered the leader of the movement, she does some to have a decent portion of it in her control sadly, or seems at the very least to be considered one of the figure heads for that matter. But like you stated, it's a jumble of opinions and such.
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