ZITHER! Questions
#1
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 01:07
1.)Power Chord is awesome, but do I get more experience from the upgrade when I dispel effects?
2.) Did they ever fix the armor bug for our characters? I crafted his upgraded armor, but he looks like something out of a horror movie, so I'm not using it. Will I be at a disadvantage?
3.) this relates to the armor bug. Is the armor buff song worth it? Does it actually make that big of a difference?
4.) I'm kind of tired being a barrier bot. Once I unlock the Heal on Hit/Kill song, can I start using other songs and not just barrier/power chord? And is the upgrade to heal on hit worth it?
5.) is it possible to get Heal on Hit song, the Cold DoT, Power Chord and all the mana regen Passives? Because that sounds like the build I would like best.
Thanks guys!
#2
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 01:31
4.) I'm kind of tired being a barrier bot. Once I unlock the Heal on Hit/Kill song, can I start using other songs and not just barrier/power chord? And is the upgrade to heal on hit worth it?
5.) is it possible to get Heal on Hit song, the Cold DoT, Power Chord and all the mana regen Passives? Because that sounds like the build I would like best.
Thanks guys!
In routine, and threatening you can use the defense song, and heal on hit with the attack speed song to mitigate damage and top people off on trash mobs. They will start hitting allies for 1 damage depending on your level since the defense song scales with your level I'm assuming. I don't mess with perilous so I wouldn't know, I also don't do the new zone. I mainly play pugs or start solo on public to get faster matches.
Do not upgrade Sing Along. The heal on kill do not work. DON'T Upgrade Sing Along!
For question 5, yes it's very possible. On this build calculator note that virtuoso's tree starts without Electricity and Fire Cord already obtained. So I can not connect the Ice Dot spell. Just imagine I have Ice Beats and it's upgrade selected. You have more than enough points to build with the requested abilities and passives. http://da-skills.net...0,00120,1,000,0
Hmm my da-skill link don't keep the selected skills. I have made a image instead.

#3
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 01:34
Have you tested Sing along's upgrade? On friday's stream St. Luke said that mobs have to be debuffed by the song in order for your team to get healed. So it's not enough that people simply have the buff themselves.
#4
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 01:50
4.) I'm kind of tired being a barrier bot. Once I unlock the Heal on Hit/Kill song, can I start using other songs and not just barrier/power chord? And is the upgrade to heal on hit worth it?
I haven't tried this myself (I love being a barrier bot with occasional buffs and offense) but if you want to focus on buffs, I say go for it. Zither can be used for so much, when there's a Zither in the team I never assume that they'll supply me with endless barriers. It's up to the player if they want to use him for offense, defense, buffs or a mix of all above, I don't mind. Unless all they do is auto-attacking, in that case I'll break their lute over my knee since they're not using it anyway.
#5
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 01:55
Have you tested Sing along's upgrade? On friday's stream St. Luke said that mobs have to be debuffed by the song in order for your team to get healed. So it's not enough that people simply have the buff themselves.
Yes, I tested it a ton after, it still looks like only the 2% from hitting the enemy is applying. I was the one asking him the question until he addressed it in that stream.
The reddit thread on where I was hopeful that it actually worked and tried it again (this was mostly after the stream).
http://www.reddit.co...her_now_broken/
There was a guy using power chord which tend to hit a enemy twice. I figured that must be why he sees more than 2%. I mainly tested with basic attack since I could single out a target. Maybe I could try cold beats' dot to see if my health move, but when I kill with basic nothing significant was returned. This is while having a fresh Sing Along and the mob in breath range on me.
Power Chord in a big group is a nice chunk of health if they all die on routine though. That's mainly the 2% I'm betting though. I never got around to trying my normal staves with heal on kill 7% and 14% to test with the 2% of sing along and the seemingly non existent 10% on kill in a recording though. The staves heal on kill are more noticable usually, maybe because I'm not wondering if it's a 2% from on hit recovery, but I doubt it.
#6
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:22
Armor - definitely worth it
Attack speed
Heal on hit
Ice damage (cold beats upgraded)
#7
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 02:54
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#8
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 03:32
But for threatening sure, it should reduce damage even to 1 sometimes.
#9
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 04:37
So I assume this also means they fixed armor values.
At one point armor was bugged and didn't actually help you at all.
#10
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 07:05
CCC - Group Barrier
EEE - Movement speed
FFF - Fire attack
FEE - Attack speed
CEE - Heal on hit
FCC - Armour increase
CCE - Elemental & Spirit Resistance
FFC - Cold attack
FFE - Electric attack
FCE - Elemental damage on weapons
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#11
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 07:27
I prefer to stay a buff unit with Battle of the Bands and Sing-Along (the upgrade DOES work.), and then decide whether to attack with power chord or sue barriers depending on the scenario.
When Mana isn't a big concern I'll throw out a speed boost. Using before or after an engagement.
#12
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 08:09
I've checked this song because I wanted to be sure that armor with barrier does not work.Thanks Yarp! I'll probably forget about it next promotion then. I want to use this guy for perilous exclusively. My mana pool gets pretty scarce already with just 2 support songs. I'll probably end up not casting barrier unless I need to in a pinch once I get the heal on Hit song.
So I assume this also means they fixed armor values.
At one point armor was bugged and didn't actually help you at all.
Still armor as alone works normally as it should. Every armor point give 1 damage less.
#13
Posté 10 mai 2015 - 09:43
Wait so does the upgrade to Sing-Along (heal on kill) work or no? Conflicting info in this thread.
Also how can you hate on Zither's armor upgrade? He goes from Orlesian Glam Rock to Tevinter Heavy Metal. I'd take Metallica over David Bowie any day.
#14
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 12:21
Wait so does the upgrade to Sing-Along (heal on kill) work or no? Conflicting info in this thread.
Also how can you hate on Zither's armor upgrade? He goes from Orlesian Glam Rock to Tevinter Heavy Metal. I'd take Metallica over David Bowie any day.
During my testing it hardly ever works on auto attacks (I never noticed it working, it always look like the 2%), but it could be working for Power Chord when a lot of enemies are killed, that or the 2% is really stacking up. So either it doesn't work on Virtuoso's auto attack and is bugged on some of his attacks to not always work, or it just has a low chance of applying at all and it takes a lot of killed enemies to get a proc/application. I didn't test with others but using it in a lot of matches since I was stuck with it 2 promotions so far I have never noticed a party member get a 10% heal when I used it on them to try to get their health up, though some people I crossed had heal on kill rings, and staves, and used potions.
Try it if you like, promoting Virtuoso is pretty painless to me so you should have no problem removing it if you find it not to work. I like my 8% staff's heal on kill, that thing works.





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