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[RayD3MSoC]

Do enemies follow the same mechanics the player character does in this regard? 

 

In other words do they take 140% out of cover and 100% in cover?

[FasterThanFTL]

The exact opposite, if anything their DR is removed and are more vulnerable in cover. The legendary Phantom DR is nonexistent when she is in cover, making it the easiest way to kill her.

[Heldarion]

I don't think so.

[Quarian Master Race]

No. Only our characters magically take more damage from bullets because they aren't crouched next to an inanimate object.

Instead, enemies gain by DR other stupid means, such as Phantoms being immune to bullets because they are moving or doing mall ninja flips

[Darth Volus]

I've gotten the impression that enemies take less damage while laying on the ground or while doing their "I'm electrocuted" or "I'm on fire" animations. 

 

Also don't forget that enemies do get a pretty big % of DR upon spawning for like 6 seconds. So Phantoms become effectively totally invincible.

[Terminator Force]

Didn't seem like it from headshots. So probably not.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I've gotten the impression that enemies take less damage while laying on the ground or while doing their "I'm electrocuted" or "I'm on fire" animations. 

 

 

Ah, so it isn't just me. I often doubt myself when I'm trying to kill an overloaded Dragoon and the fucker won't go down even after several hits.

[Olivia Wilde]

Ah, so it isn't just me. I often doubt myself when I'm trying to kill an overloaded Dragoon and the fucker won't go down even after several hits.

I've noticed this to a degree as well

[Deerber]

The exact opposite, if anything their DR is removed and are more vulnerable in cover. The legendary Phantom DR is nonexistent when she is in cover, making it the easiest way to kill her.

 

The Phantoms loses her DR in cover because she's standing still, though. There is nothing about being in cover that takes DR away from enemies, generally speaking. I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but just to be clear.

 

I've gotten the impression that enemies take less damage while laying on the ground or while doing their "I'm electrocuted" or "I'm on fire" animations. 

 

Also don't forget that enemies do get a pretty big % of DR upon spawning for like 6 seconds. So Phantoms become effectively totally invincible.

 

Any enemy is effectively invinsible upon spawning, for a short while, then their DR goes down gradually. This is one of the main reason for "failed" missiles.

 

Ah, so it isn't just me. I often doubt myself when I'm trying to kill an overloaded Dragoon and the fucker won't go down even after several hits.

 

You know guys, I've noticed this too, especially with the GE. I thought I was just missing more pellets/not hitting the head because of the bend over animation, but it's happened so much that I think I can say I've experienced this too. This is very interesting... I'd love if someone could test this... Uhm...

[JRandall0308]

I think Cryo frozen enemies have some glitchy DR or something too. Often you see Frozen Abominations on the ground and you shoot them but they don't die until the freeze wears off.

[MrsFlyingKebab]

Just don't get too close to them or they might grab you over the cover...

[Terminator Force]

I just notice it for fallen enemies, but I always assume it's a harder to hit hit-box situation. ie. Sub-Netted enemies get changed hit-box from my experience even at point blank range when I'm playing with the Kishock Harpoon Gun. So I guess this could also apply to frozen abominations as JRandall pointed out. As it doesn't make sense for frozen enemies to get DR unless more lolBioWare bugs.

[Catastrophy]

I don't notice anything DR-related about ragdolled enemies. They get fiery bullets and the tough bitches receive a siege pulse on top -> reliably ded.

Are you sure it's not a quirky hitbox like with Geth sitting in cover?

[Darth Volus]

I don't notice anything DR-related about ragdolled enemies. They get fiery bullets and the tough bitches receive a siege pulse on top -> reliably ded.

Are you sure it's not a quirky hitbox like with Geth sitting in cover?

 

Quirky hitbox, would be hitting them and them not recieving damage, like Marauder's with their glitched heads or the Geth as you mentioned. But here, they do get damaged, but less. For exaple - usually 3 shots from a disruptor Valiant would kill a Centurion if all 3 hit the torso. But if he's doing "I'm tazored" dance sometimes it takes 4 or 5, And that means reloading. 

[Ashevajak]

The frozen abombs is simply that they don't explode until the cryo effect wears off.  They're dead, but if you killed them while frozen then they need to thaw out before they go boom.

 

As for the other thing...it is only with guns you guys have noted the DR, or also with powers?  Should be pretty easy to test with the latter.

[capn233]

Ragdolled or stunned enemies shouldn't have DR.  My hypothesis would simply be hitbox irregularities or missing shots.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The frozen abombs is simply that they don't explode until the cryo effect wears off.  They're dead, but if you killed them while frozen then they need to thaw out before they go boom.

 

As for the other thing...it is only with guns you guys have noted the DR, or also with powers?  Should be pretty easy to test with the latter.

 

Only with guns. Mostly vs. Dragoons.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Ragdolled or stunned enemies shouldn't have DR.  My hypothesis would simply be hitbox irregularities or missing shots.

 

That's my guess because some hits appear to do full damage and others whiff completely. That's definitely not DR at work.

[NuclearTech76]

Lol, I would imagine if enemies had DR like the phantom does it would be fucked up and we'd all be bitching about it. 

[Terminator Force]

Quirky hitbox, would be hitting them and them not recieving damage,...

 

Can also mean not all bullets hit the mark.

[Darth Volus]

Can also mean not all bullets hit the mark.

 

Nope. I can see the bullet hit, and they take damage, but less. Sometimes a lot less. 

 

It's pretty easy to see a Valiant shot hit a Centurion to the torso. It's not like I'm shooting an Indra. 

[Salarian Master Race]

I've noticed this from time to time too but never given it much thought beyond biovar plz

[NuclearTech76]

I've noticed this from time to time too but never given it much thought beyond biovar plz

**** it, I'm going with explanation number two for all the **** that I don't understand. Lag. 

[Darth Volus]

**** it, I'm going with explanation number two for all the **** that I don't understand. Lag. 

 

Lag on host? Biovar pls 

[NuclearTech76]

Lag on host? Biovar pls 

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