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[Seraphim24]

I feel the movie was vastly overrated. I would give it around 6/10. It had a lot of impressive action but it became very repetitive. There was virtually no plot, quite poor dialogue, no humor, no depth of emotion since the characters were so undeveloped. The entire movie consists of a single car chase with some pretty crappy logic at the end. There was nothing particularly clever about it. It wasn't bad as it was easy enough to watch, I just don't understand why so many people are raving about it. It is not a memorable movie.

 

Psychotically over the top action, never seen that before.....

 

I liked Apocalypto. It isn't racist, but it does have some serious pacing issues.

 

Is the Passion actually bad? It is not a mass market film. It is spoken of quite highly in some circles.

 

I watched Passion I liked the first half, hated the second half.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Fallout Tactics (post-apocalyptic) cars:

 

 

 

Thats why i want a new fallout Tactics game.

[General TSAR]

Is this good or bad? 

 

Also yay for Sexism!

[TheJediSaint]

There's nothing inherently male about violence.  Girls can play too.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

There's nothing inherently male about violence.  Girls can play too.

 

[FumikoM]

Here is a rather fascinating article. 

 

http://www.theguardi...t-us-box-office

 

 

LOL. 

 

Even funnier.... Mad Max cost $150 million to make.

Pitch Perfect.....$29 million.

 

It is also fascinating how this movie, with all its supposedly awesome Rotten Tomatoes rating, did not do so well in the cinemas, That is a huge gap. 

 

This was bound to happen. Ideologies cannot stem the tide of market forces and general social preference. Communism tried and it resulted in millions dead and collapse o a few societies. What chance does feminism has, eh ?  

I stated it before and I will say it again. Mad Max: Fury Road is a slightly improved version of Transformers. There is little to no plot, no story, very little character development and very little "d'aww" moments. It was just pure action and that's it. Oh, and it has feminism crap shoehorned into it. 

Here's the thing with pure high octane action. You have to not only have action but have something else like "d'aww" moments to make it work. That is what made some of the Fast & Furious movies so good to the general public. Otherwise, if you want to make pure action movies, you have to make it very male-centric, very unapologetically male since men are the majority audience for this type of thing. A good example of this is Expendables. It was just pure action as well as pure testosterone and made little to no apologies for it. 

Mad Max: Fury Road did neither one of these things. The combination of pure action, sidelining the main character and putting the female sidekick is a recipe designed to attract feminists. Here's the problem with that. There are not many feminists around in the real world. That is the reality. Most people either do not or no longer identify themselves as feminists these days. There is even a growing number of celebrities of both sexes who are not feminists. It is in many ways, like religion, in that it is a dying social ideology. It is dying a slow death but a sure one. You only see a lot feminists in the internet because, they, like their counterparts, the Men's Rights Activists (MRAs) are very loud but at the end of the day a small number of people. 

So while the action scenes in Mad Max: Fury Road was rather good, it was the only thing that was good about it. Perhaps if it had some proper character development, like in Alien where Ellen Ripley, who was the actual protagonist, did have lots of character development that fleshed her out, the movie would have done really well like Alien did. But it didn't. The reality of the matter is that pure high octane over the top action kind of movies is primarily watched by men and men prefer it to be unapologetically male in the same way bad romantic BDSM fiction like 50 Shades of Grey or bad vampire romance fantasy like Twilight are primarily watched by women. 

You can't just randomly mix pure action with underdeveloped female characters in a movie which is supposed to have a male protagonist in it and expect it to do really well anymore than mixing some real world common sense into 50 Shades of Grey or Twilight and expecting it to do well in the cinemas.

 

Nah. Was no ideology behind the movie, nor any feminism, just action. It's like saying the Alien movies or Terminator 2 was made from a feminist perspective. You're reading things into the movie that did not exist, because you have something against feminism? Not everything is about gender. Just let it go.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Kinda my take too. that being said if there was they feked up big time. 

The Green place killing off any man who came near ruined there survival chances. Yaaay Matriarchy.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Is this good or bad? 

 

Also yay for Sexism!

Should i list action flicks with women in them?

[spinachdiaper]

I'm convinced everything that Anita Sarkeesian does is a disingenuous snake oil salesman stylized false rebellion. Also judging her character she is likely a lay down.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Naah Snake oil salesmen at least give you a product.

[SofaJockey]

... ive herd her being both denounced as a "man with boobs." and Hailed as as "Strong female Protaganist."

 

Where is Not-Brevnau when you need him?

We need a Charlize Theron is a man discussion 

 

oh, and

 

Nah. Was no ideology behind the movie, nor any feminism, just action. It's like saying the Alien movies or Terminator 2 was made from a feminist perspective. You're reading things into the movie that did not exist, because you have something against feminism? Not everything is about gender. Just let it go.

 

+1 to this 

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

s what im saying too

[Dermain]

Is this good or bad? 

 

Also yay for Sexism!

 

Take her second tweet and switch out Mad Max with her name.... 

 

There's nothing inherently male about violence.  Girls can play too.

 

Exactly, but who am I to argue with someone that obviously understands social norms better..................... 

[TheJediSaint]

Kinda my take too. that being said if there was they feked up big time. 

The Green place killing off any man who came near ruined there survival chances. Yaaay Matriarchy.

Well, I think it's pretty clear that when their crops died the remaining Many Mothers turned to banditry and scavenging to survive.  Much like everyone else in the wastes.

[Jaison1986]

So, any thoughts about the box office? I just checked and it's been a week, and it didn't even matched it's production cost. By a week Age of Ultron already did double of it. If this keeps up the movie will end in a box office disappointment.

 

But what I wonder is why the movie is not making much money? Did the feminism talks scared off viewers? Are people just not interested? Has mouth to mouth word being negative?

[KingTony]

It's because it's rated R.

[Seraphim24]

Take her second tweet and switch out Mad Max with her name.... 

 

 

Exactly, but who am I to argue with someone that obviously understands social norms better..................... 

 

Honestly....

 

I have to agree totally, regardless of what she has to say about other things Mad Max is really just an amped up super action movie with female characters instead of the typical male characters.

 

All the movie says is there is nothing gender specific about super massive violent themes.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

So, any thoughts about the box office? I just checked and it's been a week, and it didn't even matched it's production cost. By a week Age of Ultron already did double of it. If this keeps up the movie will end in a box office disappointment.

 

But what I wonder is why the movie is not making much money? Did the feminism talks scared off viewers? Are people just not interested? Has mouth to mouth word being negative?

I think if it did its the reputation of modern feminism.

who wants to sit for over an hour and be told how Evil and worthless they are..and mot even get a good spanking after it? 

[In Exile]

So, any thoughts about the box office? I just checked and it's been a week, and it didn't even matched it's production cost. By a week Age of Ultron already did double of it. If this keeps up the movie will end in a box office disappointment.

 

But what I wonder is why the movie is not making much money? Did the feminism talks scared off viewers? Are people just not interested? Has mouth to mouth word being negative?

 

I think it's pretty obviously that not that many people want this kind of R-rated, low dialogue, somewhat low-key post-apocalyptic action movie. Look at the kinds of movies that make a box office killing - Fast, Avengers, GOG. These are fun movies. There's action, there's some sexual tension, there's adventure - but overall these are fun optimistic movies about charismatic protagonists trading quips. Really, when you think about it, they're all variants of RDJ's Tony Stark-style personality (or Joss Whedon-esque characters, if you prefer). 

 

Feminism talk aside, I wouldn't have spent more than 3 seconds thinking about this movie based on its previews. 

[In Exile]

Is this good or bad? 

 

Also yay for Sexism!

There's something inherently ridiculous about trying to make an intellectual point about - well, anything - using twitter. But to address her substance - assuming you're interest - she's wrong on two levels. The more fundamental one is that by her own standard she's wrong - the movie does seem, based on what I've read about it, to challenge societal values (both within its own setting and with respect to our own culture and conventions regarding the role of women either in action movies writ large or in post-apocalyptic romps). But she's also wrong in her definition of feminism, which is pointlessly reductionist. 

[o Ventus]

I can't even really understand why Mad Max was rated R to begin with. There's no nudity and not a lot of language at all (I think Age of Ultron actually swears more than Fury Road). There's a ton of violence, but it's not particularly graphic. The only really bloody part of Mad Max was when

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Furiosa tore of Immortan Joe's face, and his skinless face was on-screen for all of half a second

. That last bit might be the justification, but it's one isolated occurrence, right at the climax of the movie, and it lasts for only a few frames of film. Maybe I'm just super desensitized to violence, but I don't see any big reason as to why Mad Max would be rated R. It isn't nearly on the level of, say, Dredd.

[Jstatham1227]

I know the old movies warranted it at least

[Garryydde]

I know the old movies warranted it at least

The ending of the first film is what inspired the Saw movies.

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[DEUGH Man]

It's annoying that there can't be a cool female character without people foaming at the mouth about feminism. 

[Obadiah]

We never see him die. He should show up in sequel sometime:)