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[Bayonet Hipshot]

To this request, all I have to say is this :-  EQUALITY B***HES ! DEAL. WITH. IT !

 

What ? Men and women are equal and Thedas. That means we share the hairstyles. You females are not special snowflakes here so don't expect extra hairstyles. 

[sjsharp2011]

Lets not forget though that Inquisition was built from the ground up on a new engine and with this engine being more powerful it will require more power from the older consoles to run it I know there are games that use dynamic hair Final fantasy is another great example that could be mentioned as well but once they leave the PS3/360 gen behind them asnd focus on the newer haqrdwaqeranjd what they can extract from it we might see more that was the point of my post here. As I asid I know it's been incorporated but it may be dependent on the engine being used and how much power it takes to do it.

[suirazul]

The vast majority are very masculine styles, the best female styles are the bun and the ponytail but I do think a vast improvement on hair all round is needed. The frigging horses tail has more real hair movement than the slab that is plastered to my inquisitors head. The longer female hair just looks so fake I can't bring myself to use it. Games like the newest tomb raider has done hair really well, but I am feeling we have gone back in time a fair bit here. On a positive note - you guys do water really bloody well.

 

I wish they'd release more hair, they could just use the ones from da2 or something?

[Felya87]

Lets not forget though that Inquisition was built from the ground up on a new engine and with this engine being more powerful it will require more power from the older consoles to run it I know there are games that use dynamic hair Final fantasy is another great example that could be mentioned as well but once they leave the PS3/360 gen behind them and focus on the newer what they can extract from it we might see more that was the point of my post here. As I asid I know it's been incorporated but it may be dependent on the engine being used and how much power it takes to do it.

The problem Here aren't the old console. Armour, leafs and everything else move in old gen. Morrigan and sera's hair move in old gen. Many games have the double or more hair choice than DAI and move too.

But problem is, no big movemant effect would really resolve the hair problems of DAI: Having a balding hairline tipically male slapped in a female skull, having tasteless styles and an overabundance of shaved styles.

A good chunk of People would care less about moving hair, if there where good looking short styles and braided styles.

[Mad Cassidy]

To this request, all I have to say is this :-  EQUALITY B***HES ! DEAL. WITH. IT !

 

What ? Men and women are equal and Thedas. That means we share the hairstyles. You females are not special snowflakes here so don't expect extra hairstyles. 

 

So having female characters select from a suite of hairstyles of which a large percentage show conspicuous signs of male pattern baldness is a measure of 'equality'? How do you figure?

[BansheeOwnage]

To this request, all I have to say is this :-  EQUALITY B***HES ! DEAL. WITH. IT !

 

What ? Men and women are equal and Thedas. That means we share the hairstyles. You females are not special snowflakes here so don't expect extra hairstyles. 

That's not equality. No one is asking for extra hairstyles compared to males. We just want more in general, and in-keeping with the current system any new hairs would be available to both genders. Time to quote myself because I apparently need to tell people this a lot.

 

I understand your point and agree with it, but in my opinion, what we got was not at all "neutral". You can't have 3/4 of the hair automatically have male pattern baldness and sideburns no matter what and call it gender-neutral.

 

Why sideburns are not an option in - you know - the facial hair section is beyond me.

When almost every single hairstyle (including ones meant to be "feminine") have sideburns and/or male-pattern-baldness I'm just not sure how else to take it...   That is defaulting to male. What would have been infinitely better is if they defaulted to nothing - No baldness, and sideburns being an option in the facial hair section. That establishes neutrality which is absolutely essential if they want every style available for both genders.

 

Not to mention the fact that not every male has male-pattern-baldness ever, especially since most Inquisitors aren't very old, and that they don't all want to have sideburns either, another reason to put them in the facial hair section where they belong. In other words, this is bad for male and female characters, and while I'm all for everyone being able to choose any hairstyle, they went about it in the complete wrong way.

So not only is your point about equality completely wrong, but inverted.

[Felya87]

Gotta disagree here. It would continue to be a problem. Let's give an example. The longest style, the flowing one? It's one of the most normal-looking, most popular styles. And It has sideburns! And it's even the default female hair! Of course, like I said many times, the entire problem of sideburns for both genders would be solved if you could add/remove them in the facial hair section. Having them be arbitrarily pasted on certain styles is stupid.

 

 

 

Sorry, I dind't express myself well. I meant that if there where a lot of different good hairstyles, even if some had manly characteristic and many shaved styles, if there where a tons of different, good choices (see Dragon's Dogma) I doubt many would have cared for the manly choices. The problem here is that there very few alternatives to those styles, and those alternatives are bland and/or bad looking.

[banhmi87]

Taylor Swift hairstyles for my Inquisitor.

 

There, I finally said it

[PhroXenGold]

So having female characters select from a suite of hairstyles of which a large percentage show conspicuous signs of male pattern baldness is a measure of 'equality'? How do you figure?

 

Yeah, it's equality. They look equally crap on both men and women....

[Renessa]

I am a Bioware fan and I actually really like DAI, but let's be honest: Bioware can not do hair. It seems to be impossible for them. ME was bad, the Dragon Age series was worse and in that respect, DAI is actually worst of all. I can't imagine why they think, that decent looks for the PC are not important.

 

You are looking at your Inquisitor for such a looong time - I mean, one PT can be over a hundred hours, if you are a completionist (which I am). And of course you don't want to shudder everytime you get a close-up. 

 

Also, the whole hairstyle design seems to be so out of sync with the rest of the game. It's punky and supposed to be edgy (and in a Steam Punk setting, for example, I would have liked that), but it does not really go with the style of armor or clothing your PC or any other NPCs are wearing.

 

 

They went away from the medieval style and now seem to cover anything between Renaissance (Ferelden uniforms etc:) and the Baroque (Orlais). That is not bad in itself, but to then add completely incongruous hairstyles is a questionable design decision in my mind. It would have been better to go for fairly neutral styles, that would fit with all the different influences, not something completely out of context. I can see why they wanted to avoid the really elaborate hairstyles of that time, but now it feels so disjointed.  

 

Adding insult to injury, some of your companions and advisors have much better hair than your own PC! 

[Felya87]

I am a Bioware fan and I actually really like DAI, but let's be honest: Bioware can not do hair. It seems to be impossible for them. ME was bad, the Dragon Age series was worse and in that respect, DAI is actually worst of all. I can't imagine why they think, that decent looks for the PC are not important.

 

You are looking at your Inquisitor for such a looong time - I mean, one PT can be over a hundred hours, if you are a completionist (which I am). And of course you don't want to shudder everytime you get a close-up. 

 

Also, the whole hairstyle design seems to be so out of sync with the rest of the game. It's punky and supposed to be edgy (and in a Steam Punk setting, for example, I would have liked that), but it does not really go with the style of armor or clothing your PC or any other NPCs are wearing.

 

 

They went away from the medieval style and now seem to cover anything between Renaissance (Ferelden uniforms etc:) and the Baroque (Orlais). That is not bad in itself, but to then add completely incongruous hairstyles is a questionable design decision in my mind. It would have been better to go for fairly neutral styles, that would fit with all the different influences, not something completely out of context. I can see why they wanted to avoid the really elaborate hairstyles of that time, but now it feels so disjointed.  

 

Adding insult to injury, some of your companions and advisors have much better hair than your own PC! 

 

I agree. Is still a mystery why the hair are so... modern. In the gray portrait the hair are exactly what one would expect in this setting. Braids, medium lenght etc. In the final hairstyles there are only two braids!!! And I look at DAO, where many hairstyles are just variation of one (Leliana's hairstyle) but with or without braids.  why coundn't be done something like that? Why, for example, not make more variation of the same hairstyle? with and without siderns/male balding?

[suirazul]

I prefer Dragon Age Origins in regards to hairstyles.

 

Seeing that buzz cut on females is just hard to grasp, especially since I'm used to dating women with long hair.  Sadly, many of the female NPC's are sporting this buzz cut hair style and for some reason I just don't understand it.  I can tolerate short hair, but not the buzz cut. 

 

Perhaps someone here could explain and make some sense of it?

[Renessa]

I prefer Dragon Age Origins in regards to hairstyles.

 

Seeing that buzz cut on females is just hard to grasp, especially since I'm used to dating women with long hair.  Sadly, many of the female NPC's are sporting this buzz cut hair style and for some reason I just don't understand it.  I can tolerate short hair, but not the buzz cut. 

 

Perhaps someone here could explain and make some sense of it?

 

As I said, I think they tried for "edgy" and failed....

 

The thing is, women in-game are still wearing very "feminine" (i.e. unpractical) dresses, so the whole thing becomes highly inconsistent.

 

Or perhaps they really just wanted to save on resources.

 

They should have stuck with their original vision.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I prefer Dragon Age Origins in regards to hairstyles.

 

Seeing that buzz cut on females is just hard to grasp, especially since I'm used to dating women with long hair.  Sadly, many of the female NPC's are sporting this buzz cut hair style and for some reason I just don't understand it.  I can tolerate short hair, but not the buzz cut. 

 

Perhaps someone here could explain and make some sense of it?

 

1. Bioware doesn't know how to do hair.
2. Equality. 

[sophie22]

To this request, all I have to say is this :-  EQUALITY B***HES ! DEAL. WITH. IT !
 
What ? Men and women are equal and Thedas. That means we share the hairstyles. You females are not special snowflakes here so don't expect extra hairstyles.

Wow.....dude got woman issues.....

[duckley]

Men and Women may be equal, but guess what... they arent the same! Most women do not prefer balding, shaved hairstyles with sideburns. I suspect many men dont prefer that style either. I am a woman who does not care for shaved or semi shaved punk rockish army dos.

If Bioware is no good at hair, then why not hire someone who is?

[laudable11]

Clipping is a small price to pay.

[BansheeOwnage]

Also, the whole hairstyle design seems to be so out of sync with the rest of the game. It's punky and supposed to be edgy (and in a Steam Punk setting, for example, I would have liked that), but it does not really go with the style of armor or clothing your PC or any other NPCs are wearing.

 

 

They went away from the medieval style and now seem to cover anything between Renaissance (Ferelden uniforms etc:) and the Baroque (Orlais). That is not bad in itself, but to then add completely incongruous hairstyles is a questionable design decision in my mind. It would have been better to go for fairly neutral styles, that would fit with all the different influences, not something completely out of context. I can see why they wanted to avoid the really elaborate hairstyles of that time, but now it feels so disjointed.  

 

Adding insult to injury, some of your companions and advisors have much better hair than your own PC! 

This is exactly right. It's not just that the hair is subjectively bad, or even that it doesn't make physical sense (see other post), it's also that it makes no sense in context to Dragon Age itself. If DA:I was the first game in the series, I would still think it's odd, but it's their prerogative to say those are common styles in that universe, even if I think they're bad (example: Destiny). But it's not the only game in the series.

 

DA2 had all of DA:O's hair options in addition to its own new ones, so it kept continuity easily. The hairstyles presented made sense in the universe. So how and why does the population of Ferelden, Orlais, the Free Marches, the Dalish, dwarves, etc. all not only change all of their styles so drastically in just a few years as well as abandon most of their old styles completely, but also mesh together in a cross-culture conglomeration of styles that don't scream Dragon Age at all? (As well as the blight apparently altering everyone's hormones so most women have sideburns and baldness or something.)

 

To add to all that, is it even plausible that buzz-cuts could be so prevalent in that universe at all? Doesn't the term itself come from the sound an electric razor makes? How do they maintain those styles in DA?

 

TL;DR: Not only is the hair terrible, but is completely inconsistent within the universe.

[BansheeOwnage]

Clipping is a small price to pay.

Indeed. There is way too much clipping in the game as-is (including some hairstyles in the game) for me to take that excuse seriously.

 

Men and Women may be equal, but guess what... they arent the same! Most women do not prefer balding, shaved hairstyles with sideburns. I suspect many men dont prefer that style either. I am a woman who does not care for shaved or semi shaved punk rockish army dos.

If Bioware is no good at hair, then why not hire someone who is?

Indeed again. People have different tastes, and when they said they would have more alternative styles before launch, I was happy for the people that like them. I was not expecting them to pretty much be the only style. It's also not just that women would prefer not to be balding and have sideburns, but that it doesn't make sense. It would be like arbitrarily adding breasts to certain armours on male NPCs, like I said before. I agree that they should probably get someone better to look at hair in the future. There are loads of games with much, much better hair than Bioware makes. It makes me wonder if:

 

A. All the women there have styles like in the game. Which is okay, but not a picture of the average.

B. They go outside, or interact with women.

 

Yes, I'm joking, but still.

[General TSAR]

I would love to have DA:O's bob cut back, my female Wardens always looked badass with that bob cut. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Indeed. There is way too much clipping in the game as-is (including some hairstyles in the game) for me to take that excuse seriously.

I'm going to take this time to mention my favorite nitpick about the clipping excuse: My human mage has the bun hairstyle, which I don't think is that bad on the human characters.  It's one of the 4 hairstyles I use (the others being the two shoulder length non-shaved style and the fourth is the short simple style ala female Hawke,) and it works on a mage.  Thing is, my neck clips through the back of the mage coat.  It's the one of the most common styles for the mage armor, and it's utterly distracting.  I have screenshots if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about.  I despise the hell outta it. 

 

I'm not asking for hair my own length.  It's down to the middle of my back and that I do think would be a clipping nightmare in a game.  It can be a interesting challenge trying to keep it untangled in real life.  However, I know something like Anora's braided buns would have suited my mage quite well, and would have covered up the worst of the clipping issue with the neck.  Oh and they can leave the damned sideburns out of it.  The male pattern baldness too.  

 

I'm not trying to be super picky here, but why is clipping an excuse when I have to look at the patches of neck coming through the armor?  Come on.  That is really ugly and from modding ME3, I know I'd rather deal with a little hair clipping around the shoulders versus my neck clipping through my armor/causal outfit.   That isn't even going into the multiple times my character's hands clipped through her leg or armor.  Or through someone else's shoulder or other body part.  Or the furniture...

 

_{*No Sideburns isn't working with patch 7?  Damnit, that's one of the two reasons why I started modding Inquisition.  The other was the Skyhold outfit.}    

[Felya87]

Indeed. There is way too much clipping in the game as-is (including some hairstyles in the game) for me to take that excuse seriously.

 

That excuse is really weak. Is hard finding something that doesn't clip in the game. How could people be bothered by some clipping of bangs or ponytail? and the hair already clip. To prevent it, is necessary position right the ears.  So really, who would have cared? and if bangs and chin lenght hair didn't clip in DAO, why should clip now? Well, a part in the case really the ones who have to model the hair are totally unfit for the job, and can't do any kind of hairstyle. in this case, BioWare should hire someone competent in this particular task.

[MoonDrummer]

Be my guest.

 

 

 

And there is the other style, the one half shaved with the braid. And Harding Hairstyle have stange very hight hairline. Luckily not the balding sides, but is still strange having such hight forehead on a female character.

The bottom one is the only haircut I use. I view the top one with shaved sides as girly lol.

[Grieving Natashina]

I decided for fun to look up the top hairstyle.  When I looked up similar styles for women, this is what came up.  All of these women usually do some sort of curl, spike or flair that isn't going straight up.  Note the lack of a widow's peak:

 

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I decided to look up the same style for men.  The results didn't surprise me:

 

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I could go on, but I think I've made my point. I'm not going to claim google is the best source on the planet, but I found more evidence to support my stance about that hairstyle especially.  

 

Oh and most of the pictures of that style I found for the guys didn't have the widow's peak either.  If you want to know what the posters are talking about by male-pattern baldness, a widow's peak is a classic sign of one.  Most women don't have that in their hairstyle, save for examples like Elvira and she has long big hair to balance it out.  So, is female balding a new problem in Thedas, or is it just because of the Breach?

 

So yeah, I love BioWare games.  Their CC has come so far in most ways.   One thing doesn't seem to change though: their hair is always a new and special kind of terrible.