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[BansheeOwnage]

I could be wrong, but remember ME1 having different scars by gender. Been years since I played both genders in that though.

 

 

I'm not trying to argue that the options are acceptable or even the same as before, just that I don't think opening them up to both genders was motivated by trying to cover things up.

 

Inquisition is - face structure morphing aside - pretty weak on character customisation, and that's entirely consistent with previous BioWare games. I'd go as far to say that they never really seem to have been interested in character customisation, it's there because it is expected. It makes more sense to me that this is simply them thinking they'd done well enough, rather than knowing that they'd failed and trying to cover it up. I mean, if they recognised they needed more hair options after failing to make them, why didn't they notice earlier?

 

Not that I really know, just, maybe it's better to focus on what they can get right in future?

 

 

 

It's cool.

We'll likely never know their complete reasoning. We'll just have to agree to disagree when it comes to why this did it that way. I mean, I'm totally with you that they should have noticed the lack of options earlier, but I don't know. Maybe they did, conglomerated them, called it a day and decided to focus resources elsewhere. I'm just sad that they thought those options were good enough.

 

I can confirm this, since I rolled up a Sheploo for giggles a couple of weeks ago.  They have the same placement for scars, but whereas the men are usually big and kinda ugly, the women have much smaller and daintier ones.  So I guess it's like the severity of them was turned up for the guys.

Wow, that's silly. I'm glad they moved past that! I enjoyed being able to set scars placement and intensity in DA:I. Very well done. Now Bioware, show me that you can do the same with your hair!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can confirm this, since I rolled up a Sheploo for giggles a couple of weeks ago.  They have the same placement for scars, but whereas the men are usually big and kinda ugly, the women have much smaller and daintier ones.  So I guess it's like the severity of them was turned up for the guys.

To be honest, I miss the daintier-looking scars. I loved the one that went across Femshep's nose and part of her cheeks. 

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[BansheeOwnage]

To be honest, I miss the daintier-looking scars. I loved the one that went across Femshep's nose and part of her cheeks. 

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Well, luckily now we have a lot of control over them.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, luckily now we have a lot of control over them.

Lucky for you, maybe. I can't make scars I want. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Well, luckily now we have a lot of control over them.

Agreed.  I love that I can move the slider as much or as little as I'd like, and there is a large variety.  My Cadash has a giant scar over her eye; my warrior has general cuts and scrapes (not too severe) and my human mage had no scars.  I love changing intensity and positioning when I'm putting them on in the CC.  It gives me an idea of what my character's personality is going to be more like.  That was a big request last year, and I think that they did an excellent job.  

 

Lucky for you, maybe. I can't make scars I want. 

Sorry to hear that.  

 

Hey, at least there is about a dozen options, and you aren't forced into scars with little choice.  Like, you can choose your style, intensity, and position.  For me, this is almost as bad as if they had said, "Well, you a female dwarf, so you're stuck with only three scar styles and a busted nose at CC.  You can't change them, or the default broken nose, at all, except maybe different intensities.  Want to get rid of the broken nose?  Use a mod."

 

"Sorry, you can't have more than three shoulder length hairstyles.  You must have a receding hairline on all others.  You must have sideburns, and if you don't like having at least 5 or more of your options shaved/bald/balding, those of us on the DA team just can't understand where you are coming from.  Don't like the sideburns, then use a mod."

 

I'm not letting the CC options get me down.  I'm not going to be sad, or depressed.  I am determined though, and I will continue posting my feedback.  I see no point in giving up.

[Grieving Natashina]

Sorry for the double post, but it seems like you could use this, Hana.

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sorry for the double post, but it seems like you could use this, Hana.

 

Thanks.

[BansheeOwnage]

Lucky for you, maybe. I can't make scars I want. 

That sucks. To be honest I didn't spend much time using them after I got what I wanted, so I admit I don't know their limitations. Hopefully they'll keep improving though. *Group hug!*

 

Agreed.  I love that I can move the slider as much or as little as I'd like, and there is a large variety.  My Cadash has a giant scar over her eye; my warrior has general cuts and scrapes (not too severe) and my human mage had no scars.  I love changing intensity and positioning when I'm putting them on in the CC.  It gives me an idea of what my character's personality is going to be more like.  That was a big request last year, and I think that they did an excellent job.  

 

Sorry to hear that.  

 

Hey, at least there is about a dozen options, and you aren't forced into scars with little choice.  Like, you can choose your style, intensity, and position.  For me, this is almost as bad as if they had said, "Well, you a female dwarf, so you're stuck with only three scar styles and a busted nose at CC.  You can't change them, or the default broken nose, at all, except maybe different intensities.  Want to get rid of the broken nose?  Use a mod."

 

"Sorry, you can't have more than three shoulder length hairstyles.  You must have a receding hairline on all others.  You must have sideburns, and if you don't like having at least 5 or more of your options shaved/bald/balding, those of us on the DA team just can't understand where you are coming from.  Don't like the sideburns, then use a mod."

 

I'm not letting the CC options get me down.  I'm not going to be sad, or depressed.  I am determined though, and I will continue posting my feedback.  I see no point in giving up.

I liked that they could give a little more personality to characters too. I'm not the most headcanon/fanfiction oriented person and it's not like I wrote a story detailing how my Inquisitor got hers or anything, but it's still cool. She actually has a pretty big gash in her cheek in addition to the small cut on her lip, but her hair covers 90% of it, so there could be a story there too. Haha I'm rambling now. Now if only they can take the "request" of decent hair and do that well next time

 

Your quotes made me grin (and be a bit annoyed, naturally), so thanks. I find it pretty depressing that the team apparently didn't think there was an issue with the sideburns (I didn't even bring up the receding hairlines or poor quality of hairs overall) until I told them, and even then I had to fight to convince them. How could no one think that would be an issue? Moreover, it makes me doubt the existence (or at least the efficacy) of the people perusing the forums for feedback. It's one thing to talk about writing, where people will have vastly different experiences and some will tell you you should quit your job because you suck, but it's another when you have a near-universally hated thing that is easily changed. I mean, you can't miss it.

 

Hey, I'm glad you won't let it get you down. Unfortunately, my success at doing that with anything is low (I've had anger issues since I was 4 but I'm improving.). But I'll also keep going. It at least makes me determined and have something to focus that energy on. It's the worst when you have nothing to use it for. Queue motivational speech

[Felya87]

I was googling around...and I found some braided styles that could be used as example of what BioWare could have taken inspiration to make non-clipping, feminine hairstlyles that can give the idea of long hair. Basically these styles aren't much different in shape that the bun and the only braided style in the CC. Maybe the longer one is, but nothing is against making it shorter. (still the ponytail in the CC is not much shorter.)

 

 

 

I would have preferred something more short, like this myself:

 

short, wild braids.

[Ogredad1971]

I think there were more choices in DA O than this 1, & allowing the guys/girls to have separate styles. More LONG Hairstyles would be nice as well being a guy w/long hair I'd like to see PC have LONG hair and perhaps more beard options as well. Be nice if you could start w/a basic beard/hair style & then change up the look of it like every other feature for a chance to make each PC more unique.

[Absafraginlootly]

More and better hairstyle please - my poor Lavellen had to make do with a tiny ponytail when I wanted something more like what josephine has.

[LiaraShepard]

if more hairstyles, please for everyone: male characters too....

[duckley]

What I want to know is how do the men and women who adorn the  buzz cuts and other shaved styles keep their heads shaven.

[Grieving Natashina]

What I want to know is how do the men and women who adorn the  buzz cuts and other shaved styles keep their heads shaven.

Razors have actually been around since the Bronze Age in our world.  In fact, the oldest one found goes back to 4th Century BC.  I assume Thedas has razors as well.  

[Felya87]

Razors have actually been around since the Bronze Age in our world. In fact, the oldest one found goes back to 4th Century BC. I assume Thedas has razors as well.

For shaving ok. But not really to have a buzzcut. :\

[Grieving Natashina]

For shaving ok. But not really to have a buzzcut. :\

Untrue.  That was actually very common, especially in Egypt.  Royalty and those in the clergy would shave their heads for their headdresses and ceremonial wear.  

 

In Rome, depending upon the era, military men (and women) would shave their heads, so the enemy didn't have anything to grab onto.  Other cultures would also shave their heads for practical as well as for cultural/religious reasons.  Yes, they could shave it as close as a buzzcut.  It just takes time, care and a very sharp blade.  Barber shops have been around since 296 BC.

 

Now, I'm not trying to defend the sheer number of buzzed/shaved hairstyles in DA:I.  I hope I've made it clear that I think BioWare screwed up in that regard.  However, men and women shaving their heads, especially those involved in the military, has been going on for over 2000 years.  

[Felya87]

Untrue.  That was actually very common, especially in Egypt.  Royalty and those in the clergy would shave their heads for their headdresses and ceremonial wear.  

 

In Rome, depending upon the era, military men (and women) would shave their heads, so the enemy didn't have anything to grab onto.  Other cultures would also shave their heads for practical as well as for cultural/religious reasons.  Yes, they could shave it as close as a buzzcut.  It just takes time, care and a very sharp blade.  Barber shops have been around since 296 BC.

 

Now, I'm not trying to defend the sheer number of buzzed/shaved hairstyles in DA:I.  I hope I've made it clear that I think BioWare screwed up in that regard.  However, men and women shaving their heads, especially those involved in the military, has been going on for over 2000 years.  

Shave is one thing. Buzzcut is another. 

 

Buzzcut is already too long to obtain with a razor. At the time, or you shaved completely, or you could have short hair, but a buzzcut could be obtained at the time only shaving, and than stay some days without shaving. But there where no way to have always the perfectly cut buzzcut.

[perrymwt]

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Bioware's next DLC should be this: a Construction Kit to produce hairs for the game. Problem solved.

[Felya87]

 

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Bioware's next DLC should be this: a Construction Kit to produce hairs for the game. Problem solved.

 

 

Only if the creations can be used by console players too. If not, is unuseful to most DAI players. So no.

[Grieving Natashina]

Only if the creations can be used by console players too. If not, is unuseful to most DAI players. So no.

 

I'm a PC player, but I've constantly stressed that any cosmetic options should be available to all players.  Besides, I know where to find hair mods for the PC.  Meanwhile, my console friends are still stuck with 2-4 decent options for women's hair.  I think it would be a good idea to add some more options.  

 

PC gamers may think that mods create game sales, but as Skyrim's sales show, that isn't true.  86% of all Skyrim sales were on consoles, so clearly mods aren't as important as some of the PC gaming community would like others to believe.  Having content added by the company to the game itself would be far more beneficial for all gamers.  There's also a lot of PC players that don't use mods for various reasons.

 

Also, to be honest, I've seen several posters that would be willing to toss BioWare a few extra dollars (like ~$5[US]) for some extra hair options.  Between the requests and the real potential for extra cash from releasing a little appearance pack, I think it's a fine idea.  

 

It may not happen, but as players all we can do is offer suggestions for now, and at least hope for a better selection in the future.  

[BansheeOwnage]

I'm still confused about how you could maintain a buzzcut with a razor.

 

And yeah, they would make some relatively easy money if they released a light aesthetics pack. I can't believe I'm actually appealing to their greed, but hey, I want some hairs!

[perrymwt]

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I don't disagree that console players should get any new hairs such a kit could produce. But I really don't care that much. They chose the convenience of a inflexible platform, so why should PC users suffer.

[Felya87]

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I don't disagree that console players should get any new hairs such a kit could produce. But I really don't care that much. They chose the convenience of a inflexible platform, so why should PC users suffer.

Why should pc layers get an advantage when they pay just as much (usually less) than console players?

[Winged Silver]

 

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I don't disagree that console players should get any new hairs such a kit could produce. But I really don't care that much. They chose the convenience of a inflexible platform, so why should PC users suffer.

 

 

Everyone has different preferences/ability for what they can afford, where they're willing to game, and how much they want to set up. I liked having the ability to play video games on my xbox 360 while huddled under the covers in bed. I could set up my computer so it'd hook up to the TV, but it's just not something that I can easily do, given the limitations on closet space (where I kept my old console). 

 

I'd like my console friends to get as much enjoyment as I do in a game, so I'd prefer Bioware release something across platforms :/ 

[Winged Silver]

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These styles are beautiful! And I can't really imagine where clipping would have been an issue with them. If not this game, I really hope Bioware takes inspiration from them for the future.