So what? Organics are nuking their own planets instead of being entrapped by Reapers. People on earth are dying in a similarly defiant way, albeit less dramatic... which is one of the things that provokes EDI to do exactly the opposite of Legion. She's more determined to fight the Reapers, because of the Earth example.
And this was pretty much my own lines in ME1 against Saren. "I'd rather die than live as a slave."
Legion's no better than Sidonis. Which is what got you to mention Betrayal in the first place. He does the same thing. Works with the enemy to save his own ass.
That's bullshit and you know it. Are you honestly comparing one individual to an entire species? The geth at full strength didn't want to deal with exterminating another species, why should they be more amenable to their own extinction?
And how many of those nuked organics might've made it otherwise, or might've actually contributed to the war? There's going out with a bang, there's not being taken alive and then there's being an idiot. And speaking of, the whole contrived geth vulnerability was vastly diminished intelligence due to the destruction of the Dyson sphere. So at the very least you could say it was a dumb decision, literally. But comparing the geth to Sidonis? Betrayal? That's just insulting. You're not asking them to make a stand against the Reapers. You're asking them to lie down and die because the idiot quarians have a hardon for war with the wrong machines. Well **** that.
I never really took shine with his dark knight plot because Citadel was nearly in ruins and all he could think about was going after the people who made his life miserable as a cop and act like he's the savior of Omega like there's a shortage of corrupt criminal people on Citadel. James response to his smug "I am Archangel" was appropriate. So what if he lowered crime rates and pissed off criminal big bosses and got his squad killed. Nobody on Omega remembered him because nobody care. He's only credited to the creation of a power vacuum which allow Talon to gain a better foothold on Omega and that's it.
Nyreen Kandros reformed one of the biggest criminal group and lead a rebellion against Cerberus occupation and that did more good for the people of Omega because she know how to play the game while Garrus don't. And she actually died and became Talon's guardian angel and Talon became Omega new security force to honor her memories. Nyreen is literally a better Archangel than Garrus ever was.
This is the direct quote from Aria. "There are no innocents on Omega."
I reiterate.... and??
Did I claim Garrus's actions on Omega were objectively right? Did I claim he made a lasting difference there? At least half of your post is irrelevant. Garrus didn't stay on the Citadel because he was disguisted with Council bullshit, specifically covering up/denying Sovereign (something Shepard isn't too thrilled with either). What, are you complaining he didn't go after the Reapers on his own? Guess what, Shepard didn't either. He continued being an Alliance stooge looking for geth (when we know they're not the real threat) . Then he died, got brought back and was a Cerberus stooge who luckily got sent on the right mission. Then he was locked up like an idiot for six months until the Reapers hit when, surprise surprise he's back to being an Alliance stooge.
And yes, Legion in classic sense, betrayed Shepard. He was a fully evolved AI by the time Shepard released him at the Geth Dreadnought. From that point on, he kept his Legion persona the whole time he was with the Normandy, then he lied about Geth prime and he lied about reaper upgrades. Should Shepard just kill him because Legion lied since he want to save the Geth?
You mean the geth primes who help you and the Reaper upgrades that enable the geth to survive the idiot quarian attack and also help you? Where's the betrayal? What promise did Legion make to Shepard that was later broken, apart from not being able to help sooner because of said idiot quarian attack?
And you do realize that a lot of non-game related content that are available in comic/book/movie form are direct canon to the game. Saren, Anderson and Kahlee. Tali being chased by assassins. Liara rescuing Shepard from the Collectors. Liara finding out the location of Crucible blueprints. James at Fehl Prime and his past. Jack Harper. Paul Grayson. The invasion of Omega by Cerberus. Kai Leng. Rasa and Shepard's clone and etc were all relevant to the trilogy. Garrus and his father is very relevant to the game. Garrus isn't a blank character who Shepard simply drop by and talk once in a while and magically he became the way he is. Garrus have his father's words and guidance that shaped who he is. Every time he headshot someone in the game, that's because of his father, not Shepard.
James fit more with the mentor narrative because it was Shepard who help him get over his regrets and his past mistake and urged him to join the N7 program and actually recommended him for the program. And Shepard is his direct superior while Garrus was never Shepard's subordinate. Shepard treat him as an equal the whole time.
Besides, this isn't even Garrus's thread, you're really pandering on with the mentor/protegee thing. If you want to keep on talking about Garrus, create a new topic.
Nice strawman. When did I say Garrus is a blank character? And while the books and such may be canon, the games are still the primary experience most people get of the characters. You think I'm ignoring the books. I'm not, they just aren't relevant to this discussion. Garrus' father isn't the one who talks him into going back to C-Sec or becoming a Spectre in the first game. When Garrus forms a twelve man crew on what essentially turns out to be a suicide mission it isn't his father he's emulating. The Shadow Broker's dossier doesn't list his father as overshadowing him. These are facts. I'm not ignoring the books. You're ignoring the games.
James in ME3 is basically Garrus in ME1. So he's quite a bit behind.
Otherwise I'll discuss what I want to discuss and where, for as long as I choose to, or as long as there's discussing to be done. Why are you discussing Garrus (and Legion) outside his thread? The discussion was done before you came along. If you plan to reply to me again, kindly keep it relevant and non-hypocritical.
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), though. The interviews were a really good idea...unfortunally, the writers didn't put too much effort into her. Even with Khalisah Al-Jilani you get a paragon interrupt and she shows a vulnerable and emotional side. Allers doesn't have a single emotional moment in the game, and her "romance" arc didn't help either.
