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Teltin-level experimentation and enhancements are definitely not accessible to the general public, and would only work on individuals with Jack's level of fortitude. For now.

 

As for Lawson, Starkilleresque biotics were either not part of his definition of a "perfect human" or he hadn't gotten around to it yet (Miranda was only version x.0 where x is greater than 1). Either that or most of the Teltin data was lost as a result of Jack trashing the place and/or TIM giving the shutdown order. Or maybe he simply couldn't make it work with his genome in time.

 

I don't know... the animations don't look any different to me. Jacob just fails

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The connection latency is still insignificant compared to that of organic reaction times.

 

Kasumi is almost always the best choice, for just about anything :wub:

 

Just not this time.

OK, I can see this is going nowhere (you've probably noticed this earlier). We currently pit one headcanon against the other :D 

 

Jacob fails to close the door, it gets jammed. After that he (like Vega) resorts to brute force and manually closes the door, while good tech experts continue with hacking :)

 

Depends on the speed, doesn't it? Dial-up connection would make Legion as useful as Internet Explorer 6 :lol:

Who else is available for hacking the door? I don't remember, been too long since I played ME2.



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OK, I can see this is going nowhere (you've probably noticed this earlier). We currently pit one headcanon against the other :D

 

Jacob fails to close the door, it gets jammed. After that he (like Vega) resorts to brute force and manually closes the door, while good tech experts continue with hacking :)

 

Depends on the speed, doesn't it? Dial-up connection would make Legion as useful as Internet Explorer 6 :lol:

Who else is available for hacking the door? I don't remember, been too long since I played ME2.

Yep. Good to see someone else recognizes this ;)

 

Agreed. But that's not a speed thing. That's a failure thing.

 

Dial-up? What is this the stone-age? If the geth were on dial-up the Morning War would've never happened. B)

 

Can't remember either. I think it's just Tali, Legion, Kasumi and Jacob.


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Who else is available for hacking the door? I don't remember, been too long since I played ME2.


For the vent specialist? Tali, Kasumi, Legion, Mordin, Garrus, Thane, Jacob

I actually wrote all that down once, when I was planning a playthrough.
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For the vent specialist? Tali, Kasumi, Legion, Mordin, Garrus, Thane, Jacob

I actually wrote all that down once, when I was planning a playthrough.

From these only Kasumi, Mordin and Thane use SMGs. Interesting...

This should probably be the squad for maximum immersion.

 

First stage

Tech Expert - Kasumi, Mordin, Thane (tech expert uses SMG in a cutscene)

Fire Team Leader - Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Garrus, Legion (because of the following cutscene when fire team leader uses Avenger)

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)

 

Second stage

Biotic expert - anyone, they don't use weapons in the cutscene

Fire Team Leader - Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Garrus, Legion (because of the following cutscene when fire team leader uses Avenger)

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)

 

Third stage

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)



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lol... So the Avenger is your big parameter here? :D

 

 

 

As for Jack, we're not pitting head canon here. Jack didn't survive because of fortitude. She survived because they focused only on the experiments that didn't kill the other kids. It's in the game. It's not head canon. "We'll not try that on Zero...."

 

Only thing is that Jack has had a hard time swallowing it at first. It shakes her worldview.

 

"This is bullshit! They weren't experimenting on other children for my safety."

 

"You can't help what they did to others."


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For the final push I can't leave Miranda behind, because it's just not the same without her hanging up on the Illusive Man. 


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lol... So the Avenger is your big parameter here? :D

 

 

 

As for Jack, screw head canon. We're not pitting head canon here. Jack didn't survive because of fortitude. She survived because they focused only on the experiments that didn't kill the other kids. It's in the game. It's not head canon.

Yep :D

 

Head canon is the reason why those experiments were conducted on her. The game is vague about it. The word "potential" can apply to both physical resilience and biotic skills. It is possible to interpret in-game events to support each of those viewpoints. I think the biotic potential fits better but it is subjective :)

 

For the final push I can't leave Miranda behind, because it's just not the same without her hanging up on the Illusive Man. 

I too can't leave her behind. It's the only way to kill her... :)



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I like bringing Miranda as well. Miranda and Jack to be precise. I kind of like ending all the games with a rivalry, but I switch it up from time to time. Ash and Garrus or Liara. Javik and EDI. 

 

I also like that you can see Miranda changing firsthand, from controller to destroyer. It makes a little more sense why she apologizes for her controlling habits in ME3.

 

 

Sometimes I like bringing Legion though.



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I too can't leave her behind. It's the only way to kill her... :)

 

Careful. You're just giving Cricket more reason to not see the truth. :D



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Careful. You're just giving Cricket more reason to not see the truth. :D

Nah, we know where we stand ;)


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I've grown a soft spot for Miranda over time myself. Mostly because her and Jack got screwed out of being present in ME3 more. The fans are in the same boat.


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At times I like bringing Grunt to fight Arnold jr. It shows how strong femshep is when she grabs Grunt before he falls


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I've grown a soft spot for Miranda over time myself. Mostly because her and Jack got screwed out of being present in ME3 more. The fans are in the same boat.

I don't like her ME3 content one bit (not that I'm a big fan of her ME2 content but still). Rehash of her loyalty mission, her default outfit (which I hated in ME2). She could've had a much more prominent role in the game. I prefer the confrontation with Henry Lawson without Miranda. 


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I don't like her ME3 content one bit (not that I'm a big fan of her ME2 content but still). Rehash of her loyalty mission, her default outfit (which I hated in ME2). She could've had a much more prominent role in the game. I prefer the confrontation with Henry Lawson without Miranda. 

 

I don't mind it, except the Citadel stuff. That seems pretty geared for romances.. the alternative scenes don't work as well. Why is she and Shep dressed up in a Casino? 



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I don't like her ME3 content one bit (not that I'm a big fan of her ME2 content but still). Rehash of her loyalty mission, her default outfit (which I hated in ME2). She could've had a much more prominent role in the game. I prefer the confrontation with Henry Lawson without Miranda.


I bought the alternate outfit for ME2, but there's just not enough brain bleach...

So Miranda and Jack accompany Shepard on the last leg of the SM. I especially like the scenes of Shepard rescuing Jack - showing her that not everyone just uses her and tosses her aside when they're done with her. It plays well into the development of her character in ME3.  :)
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I don't mind it, except the Citadel stuff. That seems pretty geared for romances.. the alternative scenes don't work as well. Why is she and Shep dressed up in a Casino? 

Yeah, Citadel stuff is weird. Like, for example, the head of the Lazarus project not knowing about a clone, "never paying much mind" to Brooks (despite fighting her in Foundation comic)... I prefer not to deal with this. 


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Yeah, Citadel stuff is weird. Like, for example, the head of the Lazarus project not knowing about a clone, "never paying much mind" to Brooks (despite fighting her in Foundation comic)... I prefer not to deal with this. 

 

Hmm, yeah, since I finally finished all the Foundation stuff, there are more problems. I loved how Brooks ended in that. 

 

I think Miranda's content is good for those who romanced her, I'll just say that.

 

It seems like she went through too many rewrites in general though. They were actually going to make her die no matter what, originally.


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I don't like her ME3 content one bit (not that I'm a big fan of her ME2 content but still). Rehash of her loyalty mission, her default outfit (which I hated in ME2). She could've had a much more prominent role in the game. I prefer the confrontation with Henry Lawson without Miranda. 

 

There's a couple of things that bug me about that. Her loyalty is flagged, so her getup could've been one of the things accounted for lol. I kinda wish it automatically set to that getup if she was loyal in ME2. As for the rehash of her loyalty mission, her sister wasn't even necessary. Miranda could have just as well told Shepard that she was hunting a lead on her father through some sort of shady grapevine and decided to do her own sleuthing to figure out what it was. Of course, this would remove the hostage situation at the end, but I'm fine with that. It would've been nice to be able to take in Henry Lawson alive and convince Miranda that he should be interrogated rather than outright executed. After all, he did work closely with reaper technology. He could've been put to use.


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I'm more disappointed in Henry Lawson himself. He seemed so....... ordinary. I was expecting like Gary Oldman from the Fifth Element. Or Victor Von Doom. Something.


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I'm more disappointed in Henry Lawson himself. He seemed so....... ordinary. I was expecting like Gary Oldman from the Fifth Element. Or Victor Von Doom. Something.

Yeah. Henry Lawson should have been going on about the plan to control the reapers being totally viable. 

 

Henry Lawson: Shepard, you don't understand. This is our last chance to save humanity, to save everything! We can do it. The Illusive Man was right! The people here were nothing compared to what we can save in the process. 

 

But instead, he comes across like a cheap Die Hard villain. He wants safe passage….where? Like, does he want a private jet to go to the reaper-free planet of New Cancun? 



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I'm more disappointed in Henry Lawson himself. He seemed so....... ordinary. I was expecting like Gary Oldman from the Fifth Element. Or Victor Von Doom. Something.

 

I was expecting something more as well, Miranda built him up to be such a bad guy, but he was kinda... lame.

 

It'd have been better to have some kind of boss fight at the end of the Sanctuary mission, with both Miranda and Orana helping out in the fight against their father. Could have lead to a cutscene where Paragon wants to hand him to the Alliance to try and get intel out of him on the Illusive Man and Cerberus, only for Miranda to shoot him, while Renegade expediates this by telling Miranda to just kill him already before they do it.

 

Cliche I suppose, but far more interesting than a generic Die Hard death and Miranda possibly getting offed because you broke up with her?


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I wouldn't have expected Henry Lawson himself to be any kind of fighter. Perhaps defended by some, but unless Kai Leng himself was there I didn't really expect any kind of serious resistance when we got to the end.

 

As for the Miranda breakup thing, I think that this is incredibly lame. Miranda's fate being sealed by breaking up a romantic relationship just seems like such a BS way to go out. You'd think that her character would be above that sort of thing.


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Actually Petrovsky was a better Henry Lawson. He even looked like Miranda a little, now that I think of it. And he's pretty much up to the same mad-scientist antics. They could have just left Omega DLC out, and blended some of that with Horizon.

 

edit: Wait, I guess the Omega comic came out before ME3, so that wouldn't work.



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consider it incentive to go faster. :D  That part of the mission gives you far too much time to hit the gates as is.

nooo.. it will break my focus.. ceh... Tali need to be safe with the rest of the fire team. 

 

Teltin-level experimentation and enhancements are definitely not accessible to the general public, and would only work on individuals with Jack's level of fortitude. For now.

 

As for Lawson, Starkilleresque biotics were either not part of his definition of a "perfect human" or he hadn't gotten around to it yet (Miranda was only version x.0 where x is greater than 1). Either that or most of the Teltin data was lost as a result of Jack trashing the place and/or TIM giving the shutdown order. Or maybe he simply couldn't make it work with his genome in time.

 

I don't know... the animations don't look any different to me. Jacob just fails

Spoiler

 

The connection latency is still insignificant compared to that of organic reaction times.

 

Kasumi is almost always the best choice, for just about anything :wub:

 

Just not this time.

 

Man, almost falling. Guess she must have a fear of heights or...

 

Spoiler

 

Oh wait.

not really about the heights.... its about all near death experiences including nearly falling a hundred feet with an ugly exploding reaper at the center of galaxy. Being with Shepard is unhealthy. 



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From these only Kasumi, Mordin and Thane use SMGs. Interesting...

This should probably be the squad for maximum immersion.

 

First stage

Tech Expert - Kasumi, Mordin, Thane (tech expert uses SMG in a cutscene)

Fire Team Leader - Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Garrus, Legion (because of the following cutscene when fire team leader uses Avenger)

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)

 

Second stage

Biotic expert - anyone, they don't use weapons in the cutscene

Fire Team Leader - Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Garrus, Legion (because of the following cutscene when fire team leader uses Avenger)

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)

 

Third stage

Shepard's squad - two of those: Grunt, Legion, Zaeed, Samara, Garrus (both squadmates use Avengers)

It would indeed be a bleak outlook for the galaxy if we were restrained to only using cutscene weapons.

 

I too can't leave her behind. It's the only way to kill her... :)

You monster.

 

Keep this up and maybe I'll let Jack become a phantom next time around... :devil:

 

I'm more disappointed in Henry Lawson himself. He seemed so....... ordinary. I was expecting like Gary Oldman from the Fifth Element. Or Victor Von Doom. Something.

How about Viktor from Underworld?

 

Henry Lawson is bar none my fourth biggest disappointment with ME3 after the endings, ME2 sidelining (specifically Miranda and Kasumi), and the general derp of the Earth focus and being an Alliance puppet. The way he's described, the way Miranda seems to fear him... I expected the most Magnificent of Bastards but also a complete monster. Miranda was "the first [clone] he kept". I imagined the others to be like that scene in Alien Resurrection with the mutated Ripleys. Yeah. That one.

 

Lawson should've been someone who's always in control and who seems impossible to defeat. Not physically. But he should be imposing and unstoppable without lifting a finger. Anything Miranda does he should already anticipate and nullify all while sneering and belittling her.  Physical confrontation should not even be possible. Even if you've got a gun pointed at him he should still be so contemptuously in control that you can't possibly pull the trigger. It's only through the general chaos of the Reapers and underestimating or not account for Shepard that allows the tables to be turned and Miranda to finally get her revenge/ end his tyranny once and for all.

 

And even though I knew it wouldn't happen, if he'd actually been played by Bill Nighy...

 

Instead we get a stunted weakling not worthy of even being in the same room as Miranda or Shepard hiding behind a teenager. I almost have more respect for the holokid. Almost.

 

not really about the heights.... its about all near death experiences including nearly falling a hundred feet with an ugly exploding reaper at the center of galaxy. Being with Shepard is unhealthy. 

I don't know about that. The only people that died with my Shepard chose to sacrifice themselves. Not counting the crew of the SR1 I guess.

 

The picture I linked contained more than just snark however. It indicates a certain carefree recklessness on Kasumi's part. Something that is incompatible with the resentful nonsense in ME3.


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