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Classy woman, I think. And smart enough not to **** with Aria. So not so self-absorbed.


I like her as well, but that's not the point. She sure knew who Shepard was and suggested many others in her field already did, too.

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I like her as well, but that's not the point. She sure knew who Shepard was and suggested many others in her field already did, too.

"Word travels. Your names comes up in certain circles."

 

Oh, you posted the ME1 clip. Yeah, I remember her saying that. I thought you posted the ME2 clip, but didn't look. I figured in ME2, most wouldn't even consider you being alive by then. They're just doing their own thing. There is that one chick at Hock's party who's heard the rumors, but they blow her off.



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It might be South African.

 

edit: Maybe not. It's apparently the same guy who did Ken Donnelly. Maybe he's just winging it.

yeah, that's what it's supposed to be I think, but it ended up just sounding like the SA version of Peter Stormare's phoney Russian accent in the movie Armageddon. I still laugh nearly everytime Hock opens his mouth because of how hammy and caricatured he sounds.


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Hence the questionable competence of Hock and his cronies. I severely doubt a competent smuggler and his assistants couldn't hack a remote compartment, let alone detect one.

Ignoring the fact that arrogance and overconfidence in your own home=/= incompetence in combat or flight (which is where this discussion comes from), they clearly couldn't detect it. Kasumi set this up and she's the best at this. If she knows how to steal things, she certainly knows how to hide them.
 

That is quite a hand-wave for something as ignorant as allowing a golden Saren statue with a bunch of weapons onto the premises.

He's an arms dealer. By definition, he's not freaked out by guns. Also, you do realize the statue was just a contrivance to get Shepard in combat mode, right? If this was any other game we would've either found and used weapons onsite or did the mission gimped with just the pistol. Either way people would've bitched about not being allowed to use their equipment.
 

Perhaps said "shielding" you mentioned would've concealed a bomb or nerve gas. There's only one way to find out, and it's not to lead the thing directly to the front door of your cache, at the center and underneath of your complex.

Doesn't follow. Shielding that can fool sensors into thinking the base is solid might do nothing to conceal the power source for a bomb or trace chemicals etc. Modern bomb sniffing techniques actually rely on such methods. Concealing relatively inert weapons and armor does not require "everything proof" shields.
 

Why give them the chance at all, especially "allowing" them do so fully armed? That's not even Bond-villain levels of incompetence.

Plausible deniability? He may be a criminal but this isn't Omega, and we don't know who's at his party. If he's big enough there are legit people there, including possible officials. Gunning down unarmed civilians would look bad. Home invaders armed to the teeth however... he's just defending himself. 
 

Not a disability, a biological difference, and anyway at least two of those do use it do so for similar reasons (Helghast need it to breathe and Breen (from ST:DS9) for body temperature differences).

They are less than able to perform compared to other races without mechanical assistance. Relative to them, they are handicapped.
 

Are you really comparing a crappy gunship (of which we kill like 2 others almost as an afterthought during the game) piloted by an incompetent bond villian complete with hilarious accent to an entire Company's worth of geth and their 20m tall self repairing murder tank?

Not so crappy, given it's rapidly regenerating shields (something the other gunships don't have) and not so incompetent given he would've won against any other team. So yes, I am.
 

I'm sure if Reegar could have "won" by punching in a few buttons on an omnitool he would have. Or, he would have continued to fire rockets and shrug off gunfire despite a supposed "disability" because the Hero of Haestrom, the man they call Kal, ain't about no tech solutions to problems better solved by Vera, such as a couple hundred synthetic bastards.

Yes, but he couldn't. So you admit Kasumi has better tech than a member of the race whose Hat is technology. This is good. 
 
And you must've played some other wish-fullfilment game because I remember Reegar cowering down already hit and "swimming in antibiotics" (so much for shrugging off bullets) and in desperate need of a rescue. He then continues to be of precisely zero use while I and my team (including Kasumi) clean up his mess for him.
 

Maybe she didn't really want to until after she had already run away and he started trying to control her sister as well, by which time he was already surrounded by too many flunkies and privy to Miranda's hostility.

Ultra-practical Miranda who had to run to Cerberus to escape her father wouldn't want to remove the problem he represents permanently? Ultra-practical and believing in Cerberus Miranda wouldn't want to bring her father's resources back into the fold by eliminating him and taking over? Cerberus 2IC Miranda wouldn't have the muscle to get past said flunkies?

 

Seems legit.

 

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They are less than able to perform compared to other races without mechanical assistance. Relative to them, they are handicapped.

being "handicapped" in an area mostly irrelevant to the discussion in question. Compared to krogan, pretty much everyone else is handicapped in getting mad and eating things, but that doesn't really help the former that much does it?

 

 

Not so crappy, given it's rapidly regenerating shields (something the other gunships don't have) and not so incompetent given he would've won against any other team. So yes, I am.

 

Yes, but he couldn't. So you admit Kasumi has better tech than a member of the race whose Hat is technology. This is good. 
 
And you must've played some other wish-fullfilment game because I remember Reegar cowering down already hit and "swimming in antibiotics" (so much for shrugging off bullets) and in desperate need of a rescue. He then continues to be of precisely zero use while I and my team (including Kasumi) clean up his mess for him.

Ahh the "Shepard had to help" card.  Fine, why doesn't Kasumi even bother to try and get the graybox if you don't do her mission or recruit her? Bau only gets his information in the next game after Hock manages to crack it. If Reegar rightfully smashed the toaster or Kasumi easily outwitted the bond villian as they both should, than we wouldn't be playing a game.

Reegar's not a tech specialist, that's like saying that Fortack's a better scientist than Kirrahe despite the reputation of the salarians. If by "cowering down" you mean "continuing to rain hate and discontent on rebellious roombas via rocket lawn chair despite potentially life threatening wounds" than yeah. And he's arguably of more use than Kasumi is during the gunship fight, as at least he occasionally does something to hurt the Colossus (assuming you choose the correct dialogue) and make it stop attacking for a second while I shitstomp either of them in 3 seconds flat. They both get a cutscene damaging the target in question but Rockets> occasional overloads.

 

Ultra-practical Miranda who had to run to Cerberus to escape her father wouldn't want to remove the problem he represents permanently? Ultra-practical and believing in Cerberus Miranda wouldn't want to bring her father's resources back into the fold by eliminating him and taking over? Cerberus 2IC Miranda wouldn't have the muscle to get past said flunkies?

 

Seems legit.

 

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I don't think her views are always practical, but if we're just going to try and argue character writing interpretations than I digress because it's fairly subjective. She shouldn't be running after her irrelevant sister while there is an apocalyptic war going on or die if you break up with her in the first place if she's not subject to any sort of sentimentality. 



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As for the Miranda breakup thing, I think that this is incredibly lame. Miranda's fate being sealed by breaking up a romantic relationship just seems like such a BS way to go out. You'd think that her character would be above that sort of thing.

 

Miranda's arse projects its own forcefield that acts as an effective mass effect barrier; it is powered by the leering camera view. A shep that does the terrible thing of breaking up with her thus removes the source of its power and hence makes her vulnerable.

That is why she is also highly vulnerable to death during a femshep playthrough as the effective recharge of the leering is mitigated.


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Miranda's arse projects its own forcefield that acts as an effective mass effect barrier; it is powered by the leering camera view. A shep that does the terrible thing of breaking up with her thus removes the source of its power and hence makes her vulnerable.

That is why she is also highly vulnerable to death during a femshep playthrough as the effective recharge of the leering is mitigated.

Does this mean that the Cerberus armor I got for her actually makes her more likely to be killed?  :lol:



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being "handicapped" in an area mostly irrelevant to the discussion in question. Compared to krogan, pretty much everyone else is handicapped in getting mad and eating things, but that doesn't really help the former that much does it?

Combat is irrelevant to the discussion in question? No wait, breathing is irrelevant to the discussion? The quarians can't even do that without a suit. Well, they could. For about ten minutes.
 
Getting mad and eating things is specific krogan behavior. Don't resort to absurdism (or, at least, the non entertaining form of absurdism).
 

Ahh the "Shepard had to help" card.  Fine, why doesn't Kasumi even bother to try and get the graybox if you don't do her mission or recruit her? Bau only gets his information in the next game after Hock manages to crack it. If Reegar rightfully smashed the toaster or Kasumi easily outwitted the bond villian as they both should, than we wouldn't be playing a game.

Who says she doesn't? Maybe she does and fails. There is no shame in failing something you asked Shepard for help with. But notice how she still more than pulls her weight. Shepard's there to help, not solve her problems for her. It's her plan, her show. And the final battle is a true team effort- Shepard needs to take down the shields, Kasumi needs to put it out of commission permanently. Neither could've succeeded there without the other.

 

Unlike a certain other character I could mention that needs Shepard to fully bail her out not just in combat (repeatedly) but also to shout at the mean old Admirals for her.

 

Reegar went in with all the resources he needed (or thought he needed) to complete the mission. He was either wrong, or incompetent.

 

Reegar's not a tech specialist, that's like saying that Fortack's a better scientist than Kirrahe despite the reputation of the salarians. If by "cowering down" you mean "continuing to rain hate and discontent on rebellious roombas via rocket lawn chair despite potentially life threatening wounds" than yeah. And he's arguably of more use than Kasumi is during the gunship fight, as at least he occasionally does something to hurt the Colossus (assuming you choose the correct dialogue) and make it stop attacking for a second while I shitstomp either of them in 3 seconds flat. They both get a cutscene damaging the target in question but Rockets> occasional overloads.

Reegar underwent the Pilgrimage like everyone else yes? That means he should have a degree of technological macguyvering like all quarians are forced to after they were lolexiled. And it wasn't so much "raining hate" as "drizzling butthurt" going by the (non-existent) effect it was having, not just on the Colossus but on the accompanying geth forces.

 

If you asked the bubble boy for help, that's on you. I took the colossus down myself. Like a boss. Rockets> overloads, yet his rockets still did less than Kasumi's overloads.

 

I don't think her views are always practical, but if we're just going to try and argue character writing interpretations than I digress because it's fairly subjective. She shouldn't be running after her irrelevant sister while there is an apocalyptic war going on or die if you break up with her in the first place if she's not subject to any sort of sentimentality.

That's what she's presented as through all of ME2 (minus the Shadow Broker dossier which is just terribad). Bringing up even more terribad ME3 writing doesn't change that.



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Combat is irrelevant to the discussion in question? No wait, breathing is irrelevant to the discussion? The quarians can't even do that without a suit. Well, they could. For about ten minutes.
 
Getting mad and eating things is specific krogan behavior. Don't resort to absurdism (or, at least, the non entertaining form of absurdism).

No, but obviously combat effectiveness isn't all that affected by the immune system, at least not in the short term, or everytime a quarian is hit in the games they would die. Clearly, this isn't the case.

This whole argument is absurdism, and you know it, or at least I hope you do. Krogan getting mad and eating things is the definition of amusing.

Who says she doesn't? Maybe she does and fails. There is no shame in failing something you asked Shepard for help with. But notice how she still more than pulls her weight. Shepard's there to help, not solve her problems for her. It's her plan, her show. And the final battle is a true team effort- Shepard needs to take down the shields, Kasumi needs to put it out of commission permanently. Neither could've succeeded there without the other.

Still either doesn't even try or fails against an incompetent bond villian. Reegar goes down fighting an entire platoon of terminators and their humongous murder walker in the same situation. One of these is more awesome. Anyway, that gunship is paper mache against an M98 Widow and a Cain, easily capable of being beaten in about 30 seconds. Judging by that it's questionable whether Kasumi's help was required. Still, it's nice they gave her something to do in a cutscene. Nonetheless, the Colossus is far more intimidating in gameplay.

 

Unlike a certain other character I could mention that needs Shepard to fully bail her out not just in combat (repeatedly) but also to shout at the mean old Admirals for her.

Reegar went in with all the resources he needed (or thought he needed) to complete the mission. He was either wrong, or incompetent.

Hey now, are you making fun of our legal rules about the infesablity of ship Captains also being required to be lawyers for their entire crew and trials that are won more via sentimental arguments than actual evidence? I'll have you know it's a practice that has served us well for nearly 300 years now.

Either way, for both of these cases, I fail to see where that makes a difference in the matter when Kasumi fails just the same without Shep. By extension, she must be incompetent and need Space Jeebus to bail her out when hilarious voice guy kills her boyfriend and takes her possessions. 
 

 

Reegar underwent the Pilgrimage like everyone else yes? That means he should have a degree of technological macguyvering like all quarians are forced to after they were lolexiled. And it wasn't so much "raining hate" as "drizzling butthurt" going by the (non-existent) effect it was having, not just on the Colossus but on the accompanying geth forces.

 

If you asked the bubble boy for help, that's on you. I took the colossus down myself. Like a boss. Rockets> overloads, yet his rockets still did less than Kasumi's overloads.

 

That's what she's presented as through all of ME2 (minus the Shadow Broker dossier which is just terribad). Bringing up even more terribad ME3 writing doesn't change that.

I'm sure he does, but presumably the geth are intelligent enough to actually know how to make a decent firewall for the shield generator on their walking tanks, unlike a certain incompetent bond villain. If it was having no effect, then why couldn't those geth (whom you have previously claimed are godlike hackers) get through the door in their heroic attempt to stop Tali's villainous school science project?

You don't ask for Reegar's help. You have to beg him not to throw his life away for ill fated anti synthetic rampage via interrupt. And if you do that, you are insulting the man's honor. If you are too bad to scrap the colossus fast enough with him firing at it, fine, but you should still let him die like a badass rather than using the Shepard tounge of unreasonably behavior modifying dialouge to get him to relent. I didn't need his help, but I'm not going to turn down kicking ass alongside exo suit Jayne'Cobb and his rocket launcher named Vera.

Yeah, and she's not the only one to suffer from massive CharacterDerailment, but meh, no real point in arguing over that one.



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No, but obviously combat effectiveness isn't all that affected by the immune system, at least not in the short term, or everytime a quarian is hit in the games they would die. Clearly, this isn't the case.

Isn't it? Which is it Tali or Reegar that mentions being delirious at one point due to an infection (or the medication dispensed to combat it) during a fight?

And that's peanuts compared to the main point- quarians cannot function period, without mechanical assistance in the form of their suits. So yes, they are disabled, relative to the other species established baseline.
 

This whole argument is absurdism, and you know it, or at least I hope you do. Krogan getting mad and eating things is the definition of amusing.

Particularly if fools are on the menu.
 

Still either doesn't even try or fails against an incompetent bond villian. Reegar goes down fighting an entire platoon of terminators and their humongous murder walker in the same situation. One of these is more awesome. Anyway, that gunship is paper mache against an M98 Widow and a Cain, easily capable of being beaten in about 30 seconds. Judging by that it's questionable whether Kasumi's help was required. Still, it's nice they gave her something to do in a cutscene. Nonetheless, the Colossus is far more intimidating in gameplay.

I have yet to hear compelling evidence of said villain's incompetence.

30 seconds or 30 minutes, those shields would've still recharged without Kasumi's hack.

The colossus was less intimidating than the mooks around it were annoying. I rarely if ever got hit from it but pew pews and scumbag rockets kept taking out my shields.
 

Hey now, are you making fun of our legal rules about the infesablity of ship Captains also being required to be lawyers for their entire crew and trials that are won more via sentimental arguments than actual evidence? I'll have you know it's a practice that has served us well for nearly 300 years now.

Do I detect a note of humility? If so, my work is done. :P
 

Either way, for both of these cases, I fail to see where that makes a difference in the matter when Kasumi fails just the same without Shep. By extension, she must be incompetent and need Space Jeebus to bail her out when hilarious voice guy kills her boyfriend and takes her possessions.

How is failing a mission you need Space Jesus Jeebus for make you incompetent? You still haven't answered this.
 

I'm sure he does, but presumably the geth are intelligent enough to actually know how to make a decent firewall for the shield generator on their walking tanks, unlike a certain incompetent bond villain. If it was having no effect, then why couldn't those geth (whom you have previously claimed are godlike hackers) get through the door in their heroic attempt to stop Tali's villainous school science project?

Who said anything about hacking them directly? You mean he can't whip some Home Alone level traps out of scrap metal and spare wire and quarian double A's? Disappointing.
 
And geth are only godlike hackers relative to organics. The context is important. As for his effect, it wasn't so much that he was annoying them. More like they were about to have another schism over how long it would take him to croak from his infection. The first group said 1.33382 minutes. The second said 1.33381.
 

You don't ask for Reegar's help. You have to beg him not to throw his life away for ill fated anti synthetic rampage via interrupt. And if you do that, you are insulting the man's honor. If you are too bad to scrap the colossus fast enough with him firing at it, fine, but you should still let him die like a badass rather than using the Shepard tounge of unreasonably behavior modifying dialouge to get him to relent. I didn't need his help, but I'm not going to turn down kicking ass alongside exo suit Jayne'Cobb and his rocket launcher named Vera.

A waste of time in other words. He's already failed and needs me to clean up his mess. Whether he lives or dies is irrelevant.



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You can tell Reegar that frontline fighting is bad for Quarians.... Tali tries to interject, but Reegar stops her and agrees.



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Yeah, quarians are essentially bubble people with some combat capability. I assume the only reason they don't bother developing combat drones that do the fighting for them via telepresence is because the geth could simply hack and neutralize them. 



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Isn't it? Which is it Tali or Reegar that mentions being delirious at one point due to an infection (or the medication dispensed to combat it) during a fight?

And that's peanuts compared to the main point- quarians cannot function period, without mechanical assistance in the form of their suits. So yes, they are disabled, relative to the other species established baseline.

Neither, you are probably remembering Prazza's inference about the cause of Veetor's condition. Tali is canonically shot more times than pretty much any other squadmate during the course of the series, and lives through all of it (once by Saren's assassins and once during her LM) without even a day in hospital. Reegar gets it a little worse, being out of action for a week (which, given that gunshot wounds normally put people down for far longer than that simply via physical trauma, isn't particularly damning). It's obviously not a huge issue in normal circumsances provided the medication is there. One of Grunt's tank imprints even mentions that quarians are physically more resilient than humans, asari or salarians, concerns with infection aside.

So because they technically can't fight naked or in a catsuit, that makes them disabled? I would think that anyone in this universe who runs into battle not wearing any sort of armor in the first place is disabled in the mental department, but that's just me.

 

I have yet to hear compelling evidence of said villain's incompetence.

30 seconds or 30 minutes, those shields would've still recharged without Kasumi's hack.

If the fact that he suspected Kasumi yet didn't even think twice about the statue, and somehow had no knowlege of a human folk hero whom was ubiquitously used for recruitment ads running around his mansion shooting people with an unsuppressed weapon and hacking stuff?

Sure, just like how ME1 wouldn't have gotten past the first hour without Tali's hacking skills, and that was actually relevant to the main plot. Doesn't mean that Jeebus's presense was any less required in either instance because the secondary character actually did something worthwhile.
 

 

The colossus was less intimidating than the mooks around it were annoying. I rarely if ever got hit from it but pew pews and scumbag rockets kept taking out my shields.

 

Do I detect a note of humility? If so, my work is done. :P
 

How is failing a mission you need Space Jesus Jeebus for make you incompetent? You still haven't answered this.

Yeah, but you weren't fighting just the colossus, but also an unending human (machine?) wave attack from an army of toasters. Again, way better than a moron hovering above you in a gunship and shooting the front of the waist high cover you are hiding behind with explosives while his incompetent mooks are nice enough to drop ammo for you after you headshot them.

Never. I could write a dissertation length shitpost on how it's the best legal system ever but it might confuse you, because you aren't a Military Admiral, brilliant AI expert and researcher, political leader, ship captain and Lawyer all in one.

It doesn't, I'm merely using the example to make a point that I've pretty much forgotten by now because I can't be bothered to take this seriously. Every sapient being in the galaxy can't possibly be incompetent, but they'd all fail without our Lord and Savior and his cult of followers.

 

Who said anything about hacking them directly? You mean he can't whip some Home Alone level traps out of scrap metal and spare wire and quarian double A's? Disappointing.

 
And geth are only godlike hackers relative to organics. The context is important. As for his effect, it wasn't so much that he was annoying them. More like they were about to have another schism over how long it would take him to croak from his infection. The first group said 1.33382 minutes. The second said 1.33381.
 

A waste of time in other words. He's already failed and needs me to clean up his mess. Whether he lives or dies is irrelevant.

He could have but it hadn't come to that yet, because he still had ammo.

Yeah, had to wait for him to die from infection because the were all too scared to come anywhere near him. He put fear into the heart of a force of supposedly emotionless terminators that outnumbered him 200-1. I rest my case. 

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You can tell Reegar that frontline fighting is bad for Quarians.... Tali tries to interject, but Reegar stops her and agrees.

On a large scale, yes, because of the logistical issue of being able to produce enough med supplies for a large ground force. But their military doctrine is all about nuking it from orbit then sending in a few guys and gals to mop up anything that survived (or sending in a few guys and gals then nuking it from orbit :ph34r: ) Either way, it doesn't seem to have any effect on the abilites of individual fighters or small units.

 

Yeah, quarians are essentially bubble people with some combat capability. I assume the only reason they don't bother developing combat drones that do the fighting for them via telepresence is because the geth could simply hack and neutralize them. 

One of the primary purposes of the geth was as highly advanced military equipment, a fact often forgotten during ME3's sob story that attempted to make them look like innocuous farm and labor saving equipment. Xen even states in her email that she wants to regain control of them specifically for martial purposes.

Frankly, I'm surprised that machines aren't used more by other in universe factions. The modern US Military seems to have more intergration of the techologies than anyone 150 years in the future. It's probably just a gameplay vs lore thing, because drones are otherwise mentioned to be in use quite regularly in the Codex IIRC.



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Neither, you are probably remembering Prazza's inference about the cause of Veetor's condition. Tali is canonically shot more times than pretty much any other squadmate during the course of the series, and lives through all of it (once by Saren's assassins and once during her LM) without even a day in hospital. Reegar gets it a little worse, being out of action for a week (which, given that gunshot wounds normally put people down for far longer than that simply via physical trauma, isn't particularly damning). It's obviously not a huge issue in normal circumsances provided the medication is there. One of Grunt's tank imprints even mentions that quarians are physically more resilient than humans, asari or salarians, concerns with infection aside.

So because they technically can't fight naked or in a catsuit, that makes them disabled? I would think that anyone in this universe who runs into battle not wearing any sort of armor in the first place is disabled in the mental department, but that's just me.

Funny you should mention that idiot.

Bringing up catsuits again isn't going to distract from the simple fact that they need a sealed environment/portable ambulance to do what every other species can with plain old armor (or yes, even less than armored clothes).
 

If the fact that he suspected Kasumi yet didn't even think twice about the statue, and somehow had no knowlege of a human folk hero whom was ubiquitously used for recruitment ads running around his mansion shooting people with an unsuppressed weapon and hacking stuff?

To quote no one in particular, "It's a trap!"

Unless Hock was thinking of signing up why should he pay attention to recruiting ads? How many current(famous?) military people do you know of?

As for the suppression, you and I both know stealth gameplay in Mass Effect is as atrocious as the endings. Personally I never fire, I just rush in and beat down the guards.
 

Sure, just like how ME1 wouldn't have gotten past the first hour without Tali's hacking skills, and that was actually relevant to the main plot. Doesn't mean that Jeebus's presense was any less required in either instance because the secondary character actually did something worthwhile.

Tali ambushed one geth unit that had strayed too far from the rest. Maybe far enough to go dumber. Woohoo.
 

Yeah, but you weren't fighting just the colossus, but also an unending human (machine?) wave attack from an army of toasters. Again, way better than a moron hovering above you in a gunship and shooting the front of the waist high cover you are hiding behind with explosives while his incompetent mooks are nice enough to drop ammo for you after you headshot them.

Actually that's about the same as I recall the geth dropping ammo as well.
 

Never. I could write a dissertation length shitpost on how it's the best legal system ever but it might confuse you, because you aren't a Military Admiral, brilliant AI expert and researcher, political leader, ship captain and Lawyer all in one.

Your legal system is so pathetic Samara wouldn't even deign to comment on it.
 

It doesn't, I'm merely using the example to make a point that I've pretty much forgotten by now because I can't be bothered to take this seriously. Every sapient being in the galaxy can't possibly be incompetent, but they'd all fail without our Lord and Savior and his cult of followers.

Chalk it up to indoctrination?
 

He could have but it hadn't come to that yet, because he still had ammo.

Yeah, had to wait for him to die from infection because the were all too scared to come anywhere near him. He put fear into the heart of a force of supposedly emotionless terminators that outnumbered him 200-1. I rest my case. 

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Fear? More like laughter. Congratulations, your boy successfully taught geth the value of laughing at inferiors.

 

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Harsh, putting James in the same boat as Allers.

Allers, I'll grant you, is pointless. Vega though, I really didn't have a problem with.

James, Cortez and Traynor were all great additions to the crew IMO.
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Verga's OK. 

 

I still waste 20 damn minutes besting him in pull-ups each time I Citadel tho. 

 

No way in hell I'll ever let him beat me.

 

Allers? No opinion. I recruited her on my first playthrough and that's all. 

 

I still hate EDI being a squadmate tho.Give me any of the ME2 squad over her. 


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James shouldn't be lumped in with Diana Allers.
 
He wasn't a shallow character voiced by an IGN employee that served no other purpose beyond a misguided attempt at fanservice.



I agree with you. I like James more than Miranda or Jack for example. He is a very good character but I definitely hate Diana Allers. I can't bear seeing her, The only downside of the game for me.

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Verga's OK. 

 

I still waste 20 damn minutes besting him in pull-ups each time I Citadel tho. 

 

No way in hell I'll ever let him beat me.

 

I stopped after 1 just to see what he would say. It was kinda anticlimactic. I wish he said something better. I like making my Shepard be a square around him ("HERE'S TO US. WHO'S LIKE US?!" awkward silence ...)



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Weskerr

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I always assumed Chobot was put in because she slept with one of the producers. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.



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James is the result of an early Reaper experiment in crossbreeding Krogan with slabs of beef.   Also because there had to be at least one human squadmate in ME3 who wasn't the entirely terrible duo of Captain Generic or Lieutenant-Commander Casual Racism.

 

I have no explanation for Allers though.  



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James is actually rather insightful, easygoing, and amiable enough that most people actually were surprised at how he turned out. He's generally regarded as a decent addition to the series.

I agree there's definitely more to him than meets the eye. And I for one think most of his obnoxious/annoying traits are his way of chasing his demons away, and it's damn good job on the writer's part. But that still doesn't warrant the place in the squad and this much screentime.



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I get James as the newbie for new players.

 

Its just that, ugh, why bother. Why bother helping anyone new at this point. Really. Its the 3rd of a trilogy. Ugh.

 

It could have been Wrex. IT COULD HAVE BEEN WREX!!! (Maybe.)

 

My friend playing the trilogy is almost done ME2 and she knows that James is the new heavyweight instead of a krogan and already she's sad.

 

I don't mind James, I just chafe a little at anything in ME3 that says 'Best time to start!' (ROFL *barf* ;) ) 



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Don't like Allers (would rather have had Khalisa Al-Jilani or Emily Wong), but I like James even more after watching Paragon Lost. Whatever the merits and lore fails of the movie, James stays consistent throughout. Would have liked a mission on Fehl Prime in ME3 with James, could have added additional backstory.

 

He just seems like a chill dude to have around. Sometimes complicated situations need someone with a straightforward viewpoint.


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I get James as the newbie for new players.

 

Its just that, ugh, why bother. Why bother helping anyone new at this point. Really. Its the 3rd of a trilogy. Ugh.

 

It could have been Wrex. IT COULD HAVE BEEN WREX!!! (Maybe.)

 

Wrex could be dead.

 

Also, Bioware decided that all Shepards would have three characters which each exemplified one of the pillars of Mass Effect combat:  soldier, tech, and biotic.

 

So we have three characters which are canonically alive by ME3 in everyone's playthroughs:

 

EDI (tech)

Liara (biotic)

and the new guy, James (soldier)


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