http://www.telegraph...th-the-BBC.html
Say goodbye to Doctor Who and Sherklock, Whovians and Sherklockians!
Shreklock after the BBC cuts. Eternal Phoenix will be hired to animate cartoon episodes of the series. BBC bosses are confident that the quality of the show won't change.
Not at all. As I said, the GOP is, politically speaking, more in line with UKIP than the Tories. Imagine if UKIP were in charge of Parliament. That's sort of what we have in Congress, sans of course Obama being a Democrat. We have a little thing called checks and balances. Not saying the British don't, but ours is relatively more substantial, or its meant to be. However, when said Checks and balances are ineffective due to pervasiveness of a political ideology, that typically means that culturally, we're kinda screwed up. Not that we're there, but a lot of Conservatives would take us back to the Salem witch trials if they could here.
For the U.S. side, I am a libertarian, so what both sides do here doesn't bug me since I agree with both to an extent.
Not at all. As I said, the GOP is, politically speaking, more in line with UKIP than the Tories. Imagine if UKIP were in charge of Parliament. That's sort of what we have in Congress, sans of course Obama being a Democrat. We have a little thing called checks and balances. Not saying the British don't, but ours is relatively more substantial, or its meant to be. However, when said Checks and balances are ineffective due to pervasiveness of a political ideology, that typically means that culturally, we're kinda screwed up. Not that we're there, but a lot of Conservatives would take us back to the Salem witch trials if they could here.
Not that we're there, but a lot of Conservatives would take us back to the Salem witch trials if they could here.
I must have forgotten the last time a Republican senator put forward a "burn the witches" bill.
If we're culturally screwed up it isn't the result of Republicans in congress.
I must have forgotten the last time a Republican senator put forward a "burn the witches" bill.
If we're culturally screwed up it isn't the result of Republicans in congress.
Are you saying I got my torch and pitchfork our for nothing?
Hell Top Gear is Dead so they might as well burn the BBC down to the ground
Hell Top Gear is Dead so they might as well burn the BBC down to the ground
I know of the whole punching in the face scandal, but is it really gone for good?
BBC = Big Bullshite Corporation.
Hell Top Gear is Dead so they might as well burn the BBC down to the ground
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I must have forgotten the last time a Republican senator put forward a "burn the witches" bill.
If we're culturally screwed up it isn't the result of Republicans in congress.
In my state of residence back in Indy, a few months ago they tried putting in the RFRA. Which basically stated that corporations in Indy had the freedom to refuse service to people based on religious grounds (specifically, Christianity). Look at any of the major GOP candidate for 2016 and tell me if any of them have legislation that isn't religiously based on some level.
They may not say they want to burn the witches, but you can be damn sure they're out to ensure that their way of seeing things is endorsed while others are mitigated or eliminated.
And the result of Republicans in office isn't the cause of cultural crap. It's a symptom.
For the U.S. side, I am a libertarian, so what both sides do here doesn't bug me since I agree with both to an extent.
Pff. Libertards.
Idiots, all of them.
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Now that the big three are gone, of course it's dead.
In my state of residence back in Indy, a few months ago they tried putting in the RFRA. Which basically stated that corporations in Indy had the freedom to refuse service to people based on religious grounds (specifically, Christianity). Look at any of the major GOP candidate for 2016 and tell me if any of them have legislation that isn't religiously based on some level.
They may not say they want to burn the witches, but you can be damn sure they're out to ensure that their way of seeing things is endorsed while others are mitigated or eliminated.
And the result of Republicans in office isn't the cause of cultural crap. It's a symptom.
Go to Russia, China, Brazil or India if you don't like that specific big country. Also there is the Freezeland Canada and Hazardousland Australia.
Go to Russia, China, Brazil or India if you don't like that specific big country.
I love my country. How's about you come here? As I recall, you aren't American yourself.
Go to Russia, China, Brazil or India if you don't like that specific big country. Also there is the Freezeland Canada and Hazardousland Australia.
A business choosing not to do something on moral or religious grounds? Truly horrifying... next thing you know Bobby Jindal will be launching Great Crusades and burning the heretics at the stake. The Republicans always do this to different extends before and during a primary. Not a big deal.In my state of residence back in Indy, a few months ago they tried putting in the RFRA. Which basically stated that corporations in Indy had the freedom to refuse service to people based on religious grounds (specifically, Christianity). Look at any of the major GOP candidate for 2016 and tell me if any of them have legislation that isn't religiously based on some level.
And the Democrats aren't guilty of this (although through different means)? News to me.They may not say they want to burn the witches, but you can be damn sure they're out to ensure that their way of seeing things is endorsed while others are mitigated or eliminated.
A business choosing not to do something on moral or religious grounds? Truly horrifying... next thing you know Bobby Jindal will be launching Great Crusades and burning the heretics at the stake. The Republicans always do this to different extends before and during a primary. Not a big deal.
And the Democrats aren't guilty of this (although through different means)? News to me.
It is pretty horrifying if said moral or religious grounds say that a business has the right to intolerance. It promotes hate and discrimination. It says that it's 'ok' to be against someone if you don't approve of a lifestyle choice that affects no one negatively. Especially when you're promoting one that says that you have inherent rights over others because you were told to believe something that they don't.
I don't think I should be refused service by somebody because they don't like the fact that I don't believe in their god. The door is opened on that kind of discrimination if you let others say that it's alright to say no and look down on people based on other sexual or gender factors.
I'm not claiming the Democrats don't do this. You said this, not me. Let it be said. Tu quoque fallacies won't fly here.
What intolerance are we talking about? Was it the refusal to bake a cake shaped as a c o c k? (why is c o c k even a censored word here? Damn progressives)
I don't know what the gay obsession is with the object of their desire. I'm a straight man but I don't go around asking for vagina cakes.
What intolerance are we talking about? Was it the refusal to bake a cake shaped as a c o c k? (why is c o c k even a censored word here? Damn progressives)
I don't know what the gay obsession is with the object of their desire. I'm a straight man but I don't go around asking for vagina cakes.
No, I'm talking about the discrimination in hiring practices, serving requests, and free market deals and cost mark-ups and hikes.
No, I'm talking about the discrimination in hiring practices, serving requests, and free market deals and cost mark-ups and hikes.
http://dailysignal.c...uple-speak-out/
To me, getting entire groups to harass vendors with the ultimate goal of causing a company to go out of business simply because of their refusal to bake a crappy gay cake is the real discrimination.
But the couple sound mentally ill from how hearing a simple "we don't make cakes for gay weddings" apparently caused them post-traumatic stress disorder. I'd personally suggest they lay off tumblr, get some therapy and find a cake vendor who will cater for gay weddings (and there are many of them, if one Christian cake place doesn't want to make a cake for a gay couple then it's their loss financially).
The bakery still broke state law.
Labour or Tory, Republican or Democrat, US or UK, it's all just delaying the inevitable political future. Sweden "It should be illegal to urinate standing up" or Australia "We gotta stop the boats".
Pick your poison.
http://dailysignal.c...uple-speak-out/
To me, getting entire groups to harass vendors with the ultimate goal of causing a company to go out of business simply because of their refusal to bake a crappy gay cake is the real discrimination.
But the couple sound mentally ill from how hearing a simple "we don't make cakes for gay weddings" apparently caused them post-traumatic stress disorder. I'd personally suggest they lay off tumblr, get some therapy and find a cake vendor who will cater for gay weddings (and there are many of them, if one Christian cake place doesn't want to make a cake for a gay couple then it's their loss financially).
I suggest the Christian cake vendors bite the bullet and make the damn cake. And stop going into the bakery business. And maybe learn a thing or two about civilization and their universal reality.
Granted, I'm not much for ideological extremism either, and it goes both ways of course.
Now that the big three are gone, of course it's dead.
Yeah, what are we going to watch, a bored Stig sitting in silence?
Seriously, did anyone at the BBC think of how this is gonna affect the Stig?
It is pretty horrifying if said moral or religious grounds say that a business has the right to intolerance. It promotes hate and discrimination. It says that it's 'ok' to be against someone if you don't approve of a lifestyle choice that affects no one negatively. Especially when you're promoting one that says that you have inherent rights over others because you were told to believe something that they don't.
I don't think I should be refused service by somebody because they don't like the fact that I don't believe in their god. The door is opened on that kind of discrimination if you let others say that it's alright to say no and look down on people based on other sexual or gender factors.
I'm not claiming the Democrats don't do this. You said this, not me. Let it be said. Tu quoque fallacies won't fly here.
Your notions of what promotes hate and discrimination are irrelevant to the rights of business owners. If you don't like what they say don't buy from them. It is "ok" for them to be against a lifestyle choice or whatever because the freedom to think and say things, regardless of "muh feelings", is a constitutional right. The guarantee to cake themed however you want from any bakery isn't a constitutional right. There are many things a business could do that should legally qualify as unfair discrimination. Not baking a cake for a gay wedding because of religious beliefs isn't one of them.
It's one thing if you just walk into a bakery and order a cake but if walk through the door, tip your fedora, request a cake that looks like Richard Dawkins and saying "god sucks", they should be able to tell you no.
I suggest the Christian cake vendors bite the bullet and make the damn cake. And stop going into the bakery business. And maybe learn a thing or two about civilization and their universal reality.
Granted, I'm not much for ideological extremism either, and it goes both ways of course.
Civilization and universal reality dictate that a business has no choice in what events it will cater for? According to whom? Do the owners of these businesses not have rights of their own? Government has no role in telling a private business to serve for an event they'd rather not. It's a complete waste of time better spent on fixing real problems.
Seems you're rather clearly on one ideological extreme when you suggest that all Christian bakers get out of the business.
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