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[Arcian]

^ I know rite!!

 

I miss the days of Shepdog or 7th Island Head...

 

Hell I even miss the silliness of the great Troll-Trinity: David, Wulfe, and Seival

Seival was 100% serious, though.

[camphor]

Regardless of the intention, once you said "we need to get over ourselves," you immediately lost everyone's attention. That's not a very good way to frame an argument.

 

Look, the political atmosphere surrounding gamers has been more than heated recently, and we have little need to turn the flames up further. "Gamers," don't need to change a thing about themselves, because gamer is such a nebulous term that you're basically telling everyone how to change. We contain multitudes. Yes, that means we have more than our fair share of bad apples (just like every other group), but that doesn't give anyone the right to condemn us as a whole.

 

If you wish to talk about space magic, do so.

If you wish to talk about microtransactions, do so.

If you wish to dispute erroneous logical fallacies, do so.

 

But do not condemn an entire group of people. Are there arrogant jerks on the BSN who become a bit too hostile with their convictions? Do we have those who are a tad too quick to pontificate? Obviously, just like any other sector of the internet. Calling everyone the problem isn't going to solve anything. Trust me, better men than us have tried and failed miserably. You can't have an intervention for a collective. Those who've done no wrong are insulted and those who have won't care. Just stick to the argument and keep people out of it.

 

I don't like to call anyone a troll, especially those who have some kernels of a good discussion lying within their arguments. I agree that microtransactions are a reality maintained by the consumers (though there's a bit more complexity and money grubbing happening between), and I agree that space magic is acceptable within Mass Effect to a certain extent. Although I'd argue that Mass Effect's space magic sometimes breaks its own internal consistency, but I can't say that now because that's apparently not your central argument. I would love to argue about all the little bits of minutia in Mass Effect, but I can't do that in a thread that's about how awful gamers are.

 

In fact, I'd love to discuss the current emotional and political culture surrounding the gaming world and the exact definition and examples of a logical fallacy, but I'd like to do it in a General Discussion forum, not the Mass Effect Forum. 

 

Maybe my post came off a little too strong i am not blame "gamers" as individuals but i see a culture arriving where everyone is becoming so nit picky that i feel it will soon do damage to the industry as whole, I could be wrong but it seems like the standards for an exceptable narrative are exceeding what can be done with the time and resources and talent of the people who create these games. Yes its a tad pessimistic but i wonder how many people actually enjoy video games and how many people just want to enjoy them but are a point in life where the superficiality of the medium no longer scratches the gaming itch. (good post btw well thought out on your part)

OP should of dropped this in OFF TOPIC

Actually really valid can i suggest this thread is moved