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[Elhanan]

Exactly, I don't see why writers and devs should censor games because of a minority who can't cope with a bit of profanity (which is perfectly justified and related to the type of characters) and a small amount of nudity. Sorry but if people can't cope with that in Adult rated games then they need to just not buy those games and not demand that everything gets changed to suit them. It'ss a bit juvenile to worry about bad language or a small amount of nudity in a game that deals with war and slaughtering people and monsters in my opinion and I would much prefer my games uncensored, I am old enough to choose if I wish to buy or play a game.

As for certain people who keep trying to derail this thread with their repeated statement that they won't be buying Witcher because of it's profanity and nudity, WE GET IT ALREADY! YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP BANGING ON ABOUT IT! Stop trying to derail the thread and go away or learn to stay on topic!

Not trying to derail anything; am defending the stance when the need arises.

And I already do skip on purchasing said games, but will not forgo my opinions on such matters because others may not like it. I prefer the methodology used in DAO and earlier games to those in use currently. This is something I believe would improve DAI and TW3; the topic which is presented.

[London]

I don't like profanity if it's only in a game to be edgy and it feels forced. If it feels like it fits the setting and characters it doesn't bother me.

I think if Solas came up to me and spouted off an F-bomb I would be a little turned off.

I feel the same about nudity - like the old fighting games starring only women where their clothes would fall off after taking damage. Just stupid.

Nudity in brothels or sex scenes makes sense and isn't something I'd criticize a game for.

I don't think developers should waste time on filters on mature rated games. The few people who are so sensitive they would miss a great experience over some profanity can simply walk away and not buy it. Surely they would be a great minority's anyway even if the one or two bizarre people are the most vocal and end up getting the most attention in forums.

Edit: if a game developer wanted to create an immature M-rated game that's fine and I would skip it. But I wouldn't post 100 times about it in conversations about it. And I doubt the lack of my one sale would really make them change the tone of their franchise.

[AmberDragon]

Not trying to derail anything; am defending the stance when the need arises.And I already do skip on purchasing said games, but will not forgo my opinions on such matters because others may not like it. I prefer the methodology used in DAO and earlier games to those in use currently. This is something I believe would improve DAI and TW3; the topic which is presented.

Yes we get it you have banged on and on and on and on about it .... give it a rest we get it your poor sensitive ears can't stand to hear soldiers talk like soldiers and you are terrified of a small amount of nudity. You aren't playing the game so see none of it in contextbut still you keep ramming the same opinion down every one's throats. We get it now move on, your complaints are better addressed to the developers directly. All you are doing in this thread is repeating the same thing over and over, we get it!

[Elhanan]

Yes we get it you have banged on and on and on and on about it .... give it a rest we get it your poor sensitive ears can't stand to hear soldiers talk like soldiers and you are terrified of a small amount of nudity. You aren't playing the game so see none of it in contextbut still you keep ramming the same opinion down every one's throats. We get it now move on, your complaints are better addressed to the developers directly. All you are doing in this thread is repeating the same thing over and over, we get it!

Perhaps the advice best be given to those ridiculing or opposing my opinions, which then creates the need to defend it. And I will continue to do so as long as the subject arises. Or is this thread only for those ideas that one group cares to read?

[London]

No this is just another example of you derailing and taking over threads for your own personal amusement. Sometimes I wonder if this is an elaborate troll account as this is not the first and likely not the last time you will do so. It's a disservice to everyone who wants to remain on topic.

[Elhanan]

No this is just another example of you derailing and taking over threads for your own personal amusement. Sometimes I wonder if this is an elaborate troll account as this is not the first and likely not the last time you will do so. It's a disservice to everyone who wants to remain on topic.

Sorry this topic bothers some, but if you re-read my posts, I am responding to those on this subject. Context may be helpful.

[AlanC9]

If you don't want to talk about the stuff Elhanan's talking about, stop talking about it yourself. The only reason that he ever "takes over" a thread is that people can't stop disagreeing with him. It's OK to have that argument if you want to have it, but complaining about it afterwards is silly.

[Hazegurl]

No this is just another example of you derailing and taking over threads for your own personal amusement. Sometimes I wonder if this is an elaborate troll account as this is not the first and likely not the last time you will do so. It's a disservice to everyone who wants to remain on topic.

This is why I have him/her on ignore. 

[Saphiron123]

Well it is possible that they could've done it when the story basically forced you back at Skyhold

Except games as open as DAI are doing it right now. NPC schedules aren't new, they just didn't do it. Hell, the witcher 2 did it as well... I was talking to a troll in act 1 (i love the fact i had a totally non-violent way to deal with him... dai doesn't have many creatures who can be good or evil) and i started back up the cliff and there was triss chatting with a peasant. Outside of town, unrelated to any quest. Very rarely when i return to my friends are they in the same place they were before.

Except the dwarf, he's usually drinking.

I'm impressed by touches like this, and how every side quest has real dialogue associated with. Witcher and 2 and 3 are how an rpg should be done, it's just so detailed.

[Rawgrim]

Except games as open as DAI are doing it right now. NPC schedules aren't new, they just didn't do it. Hell, the witcher 2 did it as well... I was talking to a troll in act 1 (i love the fact i had a totally non-violent way to deal with him... dai doesn't have many creatures who can be good or evil) and i started back up the cliff and there was triss chatting with a peasant. Outside of town, unrelated to any quest. Very rarely when i return to my friends are they in the same place they were before.

Except the dwarf, he's usually drinking.

I'm impressed by touches like this, and how every side quest has real dialogue associated with. Witcher and 2 and 3 are how an rpg should be done, it's just so detailed.

 

Ultima 7 had very very impressive NPC schedules, and that game came out in 1993 or something.

[Han Shot First]

Ultima 7 had very very impressive NPC schedules, and that game came out in 1993 or something.

 

Gothic (2001) did as well.

[AlanC9]

My impression is that Bio's never really been into NPC schedules, beyond a basic day/night cycle if they absolutely needed one.

How'd we get onto NPC schedules, anyway? Looks to me like Saphiron123 was badly misreading AresKeith's post. Though it's an interesting topic anyway. Are they useful?

[Rawgrim]

My impression is that Bio's never really been into NPC schedules, beyond a basic day/night cycle if they absolutely needed one.

How'd we get onto NPC schedules, anyway? Looks to me like Saphiron123 was badly misreading AresKeith's post. Though it's an interesting topic anyway. Are they useful?

 

Useful for making quests and such, I would think. If they  do various things at night. I remember in Ultima 7 you could catch the mayor in one of the cities having an affair with some woman. You could expose him, keep quiet, or get him to confess it to his wife.

 

Things like that is a goldmine for quests and replayability, I think. Maybe the fellow who sells apples in the town square works a a thief at night, or the hobo behind the church is actually an assassin that does his work at night. Plenty of things like that can be tied to NPC schedules.

[Hazegurl]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this before but I'll hide some of it because of light spoilers.

 

Spoiler

I just reached the part where Geralt spends some drunken time with Lambert and Eskel at Kaer Morhen.

Even on my second pt I still laughed during this scene.  Even though

Spoiler

Lambert and Eskel

weren't in the game much. I felt like Geralt knew them forever in the small amount of time we've spent with them. The scene felt natural, not forced and awkward like the wicked grace scene in DAI.  The phoney laughter where everyone took turns, the "funny" story that was never finished so you have to assume it's funny.

 

 CDPR did a great job on making the fun interactions between Geralt and the others feel natural and actually fun.

[o Ventus]

I got The Witcher 3 earlier today, and I have to say...

 

 

Geralt's voice actor sounds even less interested than he did in TW2, which I never thought possible. He sounded like he just didn't care about what was going on in TW2, here he sounds like he's had enough of life and wants to fall on his silver sword to relieve himself of the sheer boredom he endures on the day to day.

[KBomb]

I got The Witcher 3 earlier today, and I have to say...


Geralt's voice actor sounds even less interested than he did in TW2, which I never thought possible. He sounded like he just didn't care about what was going on in TW2, here he sounds like he's had enough of life and wants to fall on his silver sword to relieve himself of the sheer boredom he endures on the day to day.

I like his voice. All during the game he has been making quips and being sardonic. He has a little wry in his voice. I really enjoy it.

[Rawgrim]

I got The Witcher 3 earlier today, and I have to say...

 

 

Geralt's voice actor sounds even less interested than he did in TW2, which I never thought possible. He sounded like he just didn't care about what was going on in TW2, here he sounds like he's had enough of life and wants to fall on his silver sword to relieve himself of the sheer boredom he endures on the day to day.

 

He does, but it is kind of supposed to be that way since he is a mutant. It is a character thing.

[o Ventus]

He does, but it is kind of supposed to be that way since he is a mutant. It is a character thing.

 

What does being a mutant have to do with apparently having the inability to verbally emote? The entire cast of X-Men are mutants too, but they can do it. Other Witchers in the series are capable of sounding like they at least pretend to care.

[Rawgrim]

What does being a mutant have to do with apparently having the inability to verbally emote? The entire cast of X-Men are mutants too, but they can do it. Other Witchers in the series are capable of sounding like they at least pretend to care.

 

Different kind of mutants in The Witcher than in X-Men. Different world different rules.

 

Geralt is "emotionally cold" in the books too, if I remember correctly. It is tied to why he is an albino. I am sure you can find it in the lore somewhere. Could be I am remembering it all wrong, though.

[London]

Do characters outside of Geralt give great performances? I know Charles Dance probably did, but what about the main supporting cast? Are they as good or close to DAI?

I can handle Geralt if there are great characters around him to interact with.

I mean - performances in DAO and even DA2 were so great with the supporting cast that I remember many lines verbatim and I haven't played DAO in 5 years and DA2 in 3.

Note: I am closely following this thread because I love the DA series and specifically interested in reviews from BioWare fans. I think these comments are more compelling than reviews or places like metacritic. A lot of posters here do have me intrigued.

[bondari reloads.]

There's a reason for that monotone; Geralt of Eastwood

http://www.telegraph...ntists-say.html

[Rawgrim]

Do characters outside of Geralt give great performances? I know Charles Dance probably did, but what about the main supporting cast? Are they as good or close to DAI?

I can handle Geralt if there are great characters around him to interact with.

I mean - performances in DAO and even DA2 were so great with the supporting cast that I remember many lines verbatim and I haven't played DAO in 5 years and DA2 in 3.

Note: I am closely following this thread because I love the DA series and specifically interested in reviews from BioWare fans. I think these comments are more compelling than reviews or places like metacritic. A lot of posters here do have me intrigued.

 

I haven't played through the game yet. Barely started. But I thought the voice acting in The Witcher 2 was pretty good. I am guessing it is more of the same in the third game. Dance is probably top of the line, though. He always is.

[Spectre Impersonator]

I love the amount of cutscenes that The Witcher has.  It enhances the story so much.  The combat...ohh I love the freaking combat.  So much better than DA:I's.  So much more fun.  

 

I don't even mind the fixed protagonist, because Gerault is pretty damned awesome.

I am also a fan of the Witcher's combat over any of the Dragon Age games but I recognize that's sort of a style thing and many here prefer the more old-school RPG combat of Origins. I don't care for that crap, personally. It looks horrible and doesn't take any reflexive skill, only tactical decision making, like an RTS.

 

I'm really just tired of big particle effect messes swallowing the combat and exchanging flush blows with swords and axes without blocking or dodging at all. So unrealistic compared to the Witcher, and yes, I know they're both fantasy games.

 

Edit: To be clear, I'm referring to The Witcher 2 and 3's style of combat. The first game's sucked bad.

[Rawgrim]

There's a reason for that monotone; Geralt of Eastwood

http://www.telegraph...ntists-say.html

 

I feel cheated! I got a raspy monotone voice when my thyroid got busted. Never noticed becoming irresistible in any way.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Do characters outside of Geralt give great performances? I know Charles Dance probably did, but what about the main supporting cast? Are they as good or close to DAI?

I can handle Geralt if there are great characters around him to interact with.

I mean - performances in DAO and even DA2 were so great with the supporting cast that I remember many lines verbatim and I haven't played DAO in 5 years and DA2 in 3.

Note: I am closely following this thread because I love the DA series and specifically interested in reviews from BioWare fans. I think these comments are more compelling than reviews or places like metacritic. A lot of posters here do have me intrigued.

The performances were better in Dragon Age: Inquisition. I mean, the ones in the Witcher 3 did fine, but don't match DAI's level of voice work.