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[KaiserShep]

I think the thing is for some people it's removing a considerable frustration. Not so much giving them a reason to play as taking away a reason not to play.

 

Fair enough, though DA2 kind of benefits in a way from being more simplified than Inquisition's grid selection tool. I'm pretty sure that at this point, I can actually select my favorite settings for Hawke by memory on the sliders, even with the poor lighting. But honestly, DA could really have benefited from some form of NG+ that, at the very least, allows players to return to a setting they like without having to futz about with the CC in each go. That said, I can see the value also in having the character change gradually throughout the game, like his/her hair is getting longer, or grows stubble or ages, etc..

[AresKeith]

Politically correct games blows my mind, you people need to find a dictionary or thesaurus and expand your vocabulary.

This is BSN, where words go to die lol

[In Exile]

He/she did exaggerate a bit but the basic point about the Witcher was correct. Too many female characters do swoon over Geralt.

To be fair the devs are sort of sticking to the source material on that, as in the books there are plenty of female characters who behave like groupies around Geralt. Book Geralt is kind of a Mary Sue in the romance department and the games follow suit.

It's not just swooning but effectively throwing sex at him as a reward (e.g. the elf and Ves, in fact especially Ves and how they play off her rape). At the same time TW2 has a really endearing portrayal for Triss which was a scene that - at the time - was far stronger than anything Bioware did.

[Vanth]

I have...and I think that is an accurate statement.

 

Geralt has plenty of women he's barely said hello to throwing themselves at him. And if he chooses to go a brothel, there are fully rendered sex scenes. Fully rendered sex scenes with characters who have no role in the story and little dialogue beyond, "That'll be 20 Orens" is pretty much the textbook definition of gratuitous.

 

I must confess, I wasn't aware of the "fully rendered sex scenes" in the brothels in TW2. That was probably because my Geralt didn't pay for the services of any prostitutes. However, if I may say so, when one pays for sex with a prostitute, is it really a surprise that you will see some nudity? I suggest if you find depiction of sex with prostitutes offensive and demeaning, that perhaps you shouldn't visit the brothel. Problem solved.

[Steelcan]

I must confess, I wasn't aware of the "fully rendered sex scenes" in the brothels in TW2. That was probably because my Gerald didn't pay for the services of any prostitutes. However, if I may say so, when one pays for sex with a prostitute, is it really a surprise that you will see some nudity? I suggest if you find depiction of sex with prostitutes offensive and demeaning, that perhaps you shouldn't visit the brothel. Problem solved.

I mean if you have a problem with that sort of material, you are in the wrong game to begin with

[TheOgre]

Well actually that wasn't too far from mine was it? I actually thought about making W1 = DA:O.

DA2 over I though.. tsk tsk... I could sort of see the logic though.

The most important part is The Witcher 2 is the best WRPG since a very long time.

I tried to play Witcher 1 couldn't get into the combat. Real shame as I liked the cutscenes. I just don't think I can play it.

DAO>Witcher2>DA2>DAI

This isn't an Poke any anyone other than DAI as I couldn't finish Witcher 2 either without watching someone play it for me. I have a thing about I must play then in order or have someone else stream it.

[Vanth]

I tried to play Witcher 1 couldn't get into the combat. Real shame as I liked the cutscenes. I just don't think I can play it.

 

Really? I vastly prefer the combat of TW1 to that of DA:I.

[TheOgre]

Yes, I am okay with keyboard and mouse but spam clicking something just isn't my thing. It felt clumsy as I tried and just grew frustrated. I felt my success was more rng factored.

[FKA_Servo]

Yes, I am okay with keyboard and mouse but spam clicking something just isn't my thing. It felt clumsy as I tried and just grew frustrated. I felt my success was more rng factored.

 

Given that I'm someone who likes to start at the beginning, this is pretty much the biggest reason why I haven't made it through - I made it about 7 hours into TW1 before I just couldn't play the game anymore. The gameplay is just boring and bad.

[Namea]

I think it's more about establishing your own identity than economics.

 

 

 

What is a "regular gamer"?

 

Someone who isn't being paid to review the game basically. 

[TheOgre]

Given that I'm someone who likes to start at the beginning, this is pretty much the biggest reason why I haven't made it through - I made it about 7 hours into TW1 before I just couldn't play the game anymore. The gameplay is just boring and bad.

I gave dai crud for its combat but I should have been a bit more fair now that I think about Tw1

[Fredward]

I played The Witcher 1 & 2 and couldn't finish either. Can't see myself getting 3. Dunno why but it just doesn't do much for me.

[FKA_Servo]

I gave dai crud for its combat but I should have been a bit more fair now that I think about Tw1

 

If anyone puts TW1 up on a pedestal for it's gameplay, I seriously question whether they actually played it. Loss of robust tactics and the circle menu notwithstanding, I have no complaints about the combat in DAI. I think it's in many ways the best of the series.

 

I very recently tried TW again using Pinnacle Game Profiler, but it's about as awkward as you can imagine.

[FKA_Servo]

TW1's combat is definitely lackluster but its also a old game so..

DA:I doesn't have those excuses though and its combat sucked

 

I don't think "it's old" works as an excuse. It's not that old. "Satisfying gameplay" isn't something that just magically materialized between now and 2007. I think it probably sucks because it's CDPR's first game and they didn't have a grasp on what they were doing. I hear similar things about the gameplay in TW2, but if I ever get there, I won't be playing it with a KBM, so hopefully it won't be that annoying.

 

Obviously this is subjective. But I think DAI struck a decent balance between DAO (plodding and ugly) and DA2 (too fast and over the top). It looked great, and at least when played with a controller, felt great.

[AresKeith]

I disagree about DA:I's combat but its your opinion

It just wasn't very tactical, basically just clicl 3x wait for recharge and repeat, very meh, not to mention the tactical camera sucked ass (Why did they even change that?) no skill was needed in DA:I imho

 

DA:O's combat should have been faster paced but apart from that its easily the best of the series  

 

And I played DAO a few times without being tactical

[MoonDrummer]

I've never liked the combat in any of the Dragon Age games. Origins was too slow, but since then we've had stupid shite, like splitting the ground open with a sword, causing lava to burst out and mildly burn my enemies. 

 

I've never played the first Witcher, probably never will, and I only just started playing the Witcher 2 after it spent years sitting on a shelf. It very quickly made me regret leaving it on a shelf. 

[FKA_Servo]

And I played DAO a few times without being tactical

 

I've never played any of them in tactical cam. By the time I hit DAO, I was ready to be done with the isometric perspective. Tactics themselves were fun to play with sometimes, but I never really needed them. Setting them up felt like busywork, and the payoff was just having the game play itself - which can be satisfying, I guess, but meh.

 

That said, DAO is slow and ugly. Everyone shuffles around like they've filled their depends and staff attacks are pokey and ridiculous looking. DA2 is better simply by virtue of not being that (though I think it probably had the best realized tactics system of all of them), and DAI is better still for retaining most of DA2's flow and toning down the more outlandish stuff. I'll happily trade tactics for that, personally.

[CronoDragoon]

I disagree about DA:I's combat but its your opinion

It just wasn't very tactical, basically just clicl 3x wait for recharge and repeat, very meh, not to mention the tactical camera sucked ass (Why did they even change that?) no skill was needed in DA:I imho

 

DA:O's combat should have been faster paced but apart from that its easily the best of the series  

 

It's always relative.

 

Tactical in relation to what? It's certainly far more tactical than the Witcher. It's less tactical than some of the better grid or turn-based RPG for sure, but that's entirely expected. Once you have the ability to play over-the-shoulder, by necessity you need to sacrifice some spacing and tactical depth to accomodate that.

 

And I don't actually think that's a problem, since I prefer to play these games as Action RPGs. Accordingly, the games have a nice bit of tactical depth while still being fun to play in real-time. Of course, my selfish preference would be for them to do what Mass Effect 2 and 3 did for that series, and really focus on the action aspect to perfect it. But Dragon Age has a lot more cRPG fans than Mass Effect that still like playing it as if it were an iso RPG. So BioWare is left in the unenviable position of knowing they could easily make a more satisfying combat system if they go in either direction (more tactical or more actiony) but also knowing their best option is to continue to straddle the line so they don't alienate large groups of their fanbase entirely.

[TheOgre]

I liked slower combat -- Then I get this action slasher DA2.. DAI became even less involved and more basic. I prefer DA2's combat to DAI and I dislike action slashers.

[AlanC9]

He/she did exaggerate a bit but the basic point about the Witcher was correct. Too many female characters do swoon over Geralt.
 
To be fair the devs are sort of sticking to the source material on that, as in the books there are plenty of female characters who behave like groupies around Geralt. Book Geralt is kind of a Mary Sue in the romance department and the games follow suit.

I always gave this a pass in TW1. If a girl's looking for a NSA hookup, Geralt's a pretty good choice. Sterile, immune to disease, and guaranteed to be out of your life fast.

[KBomb]

Ew, talk about bad taste.

What an intelligent and thought out response! Thank you so much. I bet you're as edgy and cool as your comment.

[Aren]

I think all games companies can learn from each other, and from other games. Whether they learn from what others did well, or to avoid what others did poorly. The result is that we end up getting better games to play. It makes no sense for devs to stay in their own little bubbles and have their products stagnate and suffer as a result.

It's fair however there is no point in learning from others company just to lose yourself.

[KBomb]

I always gave this a pass in TW1. If a girl's looking for a NSA hookup, Geralt's a pretty good choice. Sterile, immune to disease, and guaranteed to be out of your life fast.

Lol very true.