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#3651
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For people who prefer the look or stats of a certain item I'd still ask for not as much grind to achieve such. Just my honest opinion. RNG is never fun.


Stats may vary, but the look can be altered as desired by using another Crafting station added by a patch. And if there was a possible shortage, it generally was for Fade Touched materials, which had more to do with ability effects; not either stats or appearances, IMO.

For me, RGL this was nothing to care about; lesser finds were sold, and greater items were gifted to the team. But even then, the idea that one can't always get what you want rings true. Generally, would rather craft the best from what was found as opposed to spamming containers to get specifically what is desired.

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You do realize I'm not talking about exploiting chest loot here, right?  

 

I'm talking about the orange Masterwork schematics.  The ones that take gold and a fair amount of game play to even purchase outside of TBE.  The top end stuff (that isn't from JoH.)  The stuff that takes the Short List perk in order to even unlock in the Hissing Wastes.  I'm not talking about the white version of the Masterwork schematics.  I know those are fairly easy to get.  

 

The orange Tier 3 armor schematics that come from the vendor in the Hissing Wastes, should be set by the PC's class.  If you roll a mage, you get the orange Masterwork mage armor schematic 100% guaranteed once.  If you're a warrior, you get a warrior schematic, and so on.   That would have been a better way to handle this.  This randomization crap makes all that work feel more like a joke than a reward.

 

No excuse for it.  I agree that I think a person should not be able to go back and buy it over and over again.  This is a one time deal and I think that's more than fair for those that not only prefer a certain look or style, but those that actually want the best upgrade.  

 

Those players that, again, took the time and care to get to the Short List perk, had enough cash saved up, then rode through the desert, and had leveled at least enough to survive the spiders should have been rewarded with one orange armor schematic that's for your class.

 

I cannot stress this enough: Having one guaranteed orange Masterwork Tier 3 armor schematic available for purchase for my class is all I was talking about.  No exploits, no chance of buying another one.  That's fair to me.  Keeping it as RNG is silly and I cannot think of one single good reason for it.


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Stats may vary, but the look can be altered as desired by using another Crafting station added by a patch. And if there was a possible shortage, it generally was for Fade Touched materials, which had more to do with ability effects; not either stats or appearances, IMO.

For me, RGL this was nothing to care about; lesser finds were sold, and greater items were gifted to the team. But even then, the idea that one can't always get what you want rings true. Generally, would rather craft the best from what was found as opposed to spamming containers to get specifically what is desired.

 

Can agree with the sentiment. There are people that absolutely WANT that look. Like the elvish plate armor from the Wakening Planes (I think?) They claim it took them two weeks to give up.

 

Which is why I support Natashina's PoV, I'd rather people not have to spam chests or save scum or try any weird technique to get that perfect look while getting the best stats out of that gearset.



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You do realize I'm not talking about exploiting chest loot here, right?  
 
I'm talking about the orange Masterwork schematics.  The top end stuff (that isn't from JoH.)  The stuff that takes the Short List perk in order to even unlock in the Hissing Wastes.  I'm not talking about the white version of the Masterwork schematics.  I know those are fairly easy to get.  The orange Tier 3 schematics that come from the vendor in the Hissing Wastes, should be set by the PC's class.  If you roll a mage, you get the orange Masterwork mage schematic 100% guaranteed once.  If you're a warrior, you get a warrior schematic, and so on.   That would have been a better way to handle this.  This randomization crap makes all that work feel more like a joke than a reward.


I purchased gear from the Hissing Wastes both times, but was not looking for anything specific either time; just a chance at top end schematics. And my Rogue found a great helm; much better than anything found up to that time.

But what of the Black Emporium? Understood it allowed finds based on level, which includes rare schematics. I have not looked for anything specific, but was pleased with what was located there.

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Um, have you seen those prices for tier 3 schematics?  Many of them are up to twice and triple the prices over the schematics in the Hissing Wastes!  That's problem number one.  Number two is that he doesn't have all the Tier 3 Masterwork Orange armors.  Number three is that you replace RNG with a lot of money grinding as a result.  

 

I'm not asking anything unreasonable here.  I'm asking that one, just one of the Tier 3 Orange Masterwork armor schematics get set by my class, in the main game from the vendor at the Hissing Wastes, and not by random chance.  The ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, since I already did the work to afford the discounts. 

 

Oh and Short List and other Josie-based discount perks don't count in TBE.


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But all of those characters are bit players. Cassandra isn't a bit player like Udina (who we see basically at two points in the story), Anderson (ditto - he comes up twice, basically) and Hackett (who didn't even get a character model in ME1). 

 

There's no way to sensibly do a game where the NPC is the chosen one and dominates the story without creating all sorts of other weird disconnects, including nerfing the agency of the supposed chosen one. 

Not with an attitude like that :P

 

That aspect was something I liked about Oblivion. The super magical dragon blood prince who was the only one that can stop Mehrunes Dagon from killing everyone is squirreled away somewhere safe until the final battle which is exactly what would happen in real life, you wouldn't risk such an important person needlessly. Your character is like a body guard/ soldier type role rather than a chosen one and I liked it. In inquisition it makes no sense for the one person who can seal the breach/rifts to be on the front lines with only a small group, being constantly put at risk. It's especially weird when it's something that doesn't seem to have a connection to rifts in any way (such as stopping Celine's assassination).

 

Basically I hate the idea of playing a special snowflake chosen one period. I'd rather have a story with a more believable scope and a personal touch than an untouchable steamroller chosen one. If there is a chosen one to be had I think it's much more interesting when it's not the player.


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Um, have you seen those prices for tier 3 schematics?  Many of them are up to twice and triple the prices out from the Hissing Wastes!  That's problem number one.  Number two is that he doesn't have all the Tier 3 Masterwork Orange armors.  Number three is that you replace RNG with a lot of money grinding as a result.  

 

I'm not asking anything unreasonable here.  I'm asking that the Tier 3 Orange Masterwork armor schematics get set by my class, in the main game from the vendor at the Hissing Wastes, and not by random chance.  The ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, since I already did the work to afford the discounts.

 

Oh and Short List and other Josie-based discount perks don't count in TBE.

 

Yeah, needless to say, that merchant in Val Royeaux is a low rent thrift shop compared to the mystical gyp joint that is Xenon's little boutique. A shopping spree there is certainly not in the cards.

 

I agree that a class-specific T3 Masterwork should be a constant offering every playthrough. Randomization is a strange thing that permeates throughout the entire game. NPC's will change skin color or hair style, and even party comments that are triggered by certain moments in the game are cycled at random. 


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Yeah, needless to say, that merchant in Val Royeaux is a low rent thrift shop compared to the mystical gyp joint that is Xenon's little boutique. A shopping spree there is certainly not in the cards.

 

Xenon's gotta make a living somehow out there :P


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Um, have you seen those prices for tier 3 schematics?  Many of them are up to twice and triple the prices out from the Hissing Wastes!  That's problem number one.  Number two is that he doesn't have all the Tier 3 Masterwork Orange armors.  

Number three is that you replace RNG with a lot of money grinding as a result.  
 
I'm not asking anything unreasonable here.  I'm asking that one, just one of the Tier 3 Orange Masterwork armor schematics get set by my class, in the main game from the vendor at the Hissing Wastes, and not by random chance.  The ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, since I already did the work to afford the discounts. 
 
Oh and Short List and other Josie-based discount perks don't count in TBE.

As mentioned, no reloading for loot here, but both Inq's had more than enough funds to get what they wanted. That said, I did not purchase weapons or armors for Companions; they received the best of what was found in loot. I did purchase some accessories for them, but nothing extravagant. And I had plenty left for my Mage to shop at the BE before leaving for JoH, and purchase schematics found there, too.

But I will agree that it might be sweet to have a set shop for each class and/ or race in the game to find the top end schematics. This could lead to each Player locating which store is best for them rather than having one set location for all.

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Another thiing I hope DAI looks at in TW3 is the loot system. it seems everything is useful. i have gotten very few "trash items". I absolutely loath the RNG in Inquistion.Also, i hope Bioware takes a look at the items. There is a two things you can do with the items in TW3. You can sell them,or dismantle them for crafting. i hop eBioware wil take some inspiration from the crafting system in TW3. There seems to be a use one way or the other for everything. Monster parts can be used in potions, or in gear, bombs and bolts and other weapons. In short I hope they give a serious look at TW3 loot and crafting system.

 

Honestly, I think TW3 still has mostly trash loot. Explore the open world first in Velen vs. go for the story, and you'll quickly find schematics that outlevel everything, turning most loot into stuff you hold on long enough to sell. 



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Not with an attitude like that :P

 

That aspect was something I liked about Oblivion. The super magical dragon blood prince who was the only one that can stop Mehrunes Dagon from killing everyone is squirreled away somewhere safe until the final battle which is exactly what would happen in real life, you wouldn't risk such an important person needlessly. Your character is like a body guard/ soldier type role rather than a chosen one and I liked it. In inquisition it makes no sense for the one person who can seal the breach/rifts to be on the front lines with only a small group, being constantly put at risk. It's especially weird when it's something that doesn't seem to have a connection to rifts in any way (such as stopping Celine's assassination).

 

Basically I hate the idea of playing a special snowflake chosen one period. I'd rather have a story with a more believable scope and a personal touch than an untouchable steamroller chosen one. If there is a chosen one to be had I think it's much more interesting when it's not the player.

 

But you are the special snowflake that saves everyone. You are a single unyielding engine of death, whose combat prowess exceeds the might of armies, covering your room in the skulls of so many legendary creatures - and so many hundreds, if not thousands, of enemies - that the only killing force on the planet that even comes close to equaling you is an actual plague

 

An RPG cannot work without you being a chosen one. Otherwise it's just an absurd parody of itself, where you have to close your eyes to the fact that you kill more people in months that most armies - yes, entire armies - in the world IRL kill in years. 

 

There's no way to do an RPG with believable scope, unless there's absolutely no combat, a single lone human with some armour and a sword is incredibe and peerless in regards to how deadly it is, wild animals are almost impossible to kill singlehandedly without clever traps and avoiding combat, and the entire game culminates in a single ogre boss fight where, like Cailan, you are mercilessly crushed in one hand and thrown like a dish-rag. 

 

In TW3 Geralt is a special snowflake. He's a 100+ year old superhuman monster slayer. Just because he's not as special as other special snowkflakes doesn't make him less special than some mook. 


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Entertaining as it is, it kind of backfired, as ironically it's now becoming a great place to farm red mutagens. 

 

Next patch, CDPR is probably just going to make you get struck by lightning if you try to exploit the monsters meant to stop you from exploiting.  :lol:

 

I'm just hoping they fix the wet armor bug. It's really annoying. It's kept me from playing for over a week now, it's not as though the Devs are unaware either. On their own forums they said they were working on a fix, so I was hoping it would be fixed in yesterdays patch. No such luck however.   :(



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I don't think being good at what you do qualifies as being a Mary Sue/Marty Stu. Being better at what you do than anyone else in history who has ever attempted to do what you do probably does. As I recall. It's been said that Geralt isn't the greatest Witcher.  Other characters would mention liking someone else better than Geralt. And Geralt's specialness seems reasonable.  Although I do think he has some special snowflake traits, I just don't think it's enough to qualify him as Gary Stu. Try helping out certain people in TW3 and you'll be told to basically go plough yourself.  lol!

 

Book spoiler...although I think the games mention this, but just in case:

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I don't think being good at what you do qualifies as being a Mary Sue/Marty Stu. Being better at what you do than anyone else in history who has ever attempted to do what you do probably does. As I recall. It's been said that Geralt isn't the greatest Witcher.  Other characters would mention liking someone else better than Geralt. And Geralt's specialness seems reasonable.  Although I do think he has some special snowflake traits, I just don't think it's enough to qualify him as Gary Stu. Try helping out certain people in TW3 and you'll be told to basically go plough yourself.  lol!
 
Book spoiler...although I think the games mention this, but just in case:

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But.every women in witcherverse fell in love with him. That still counts.

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But.every women in witcherverse fell in love with him. That still counts.

I don't know....that particular characteristic on it's own doesn't strike me as very "Stu" like.  There is a lot of characters in fiction that are really...really good about bedding their preferred sexual partners without being Mary Sues.

 

Some stories/series do take it way too far though.  

Anyone else remember when Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter was about killing monsters and not about succubus sex?  I miss those days. 


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Book spoiler...although I think the games mention this, but just in case:

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Entertaining as it is, it kind of backfired, as ironically it's now becoming a great place to farm red mutagens. 

 

Next patch, CDPR is probably just going to make you get struck by lightning if you try to exploit the monsters meant to stop you from exploiting.  :lol:

 

LOL. Kinda true but at low level they are tough. When you can kill them easily to farm them you probably wont need to farm them anymore.

 

Besides, cheating in a single player game is like cheating on yourself. I dont think CDPR is actaully trying to stop players from exploiting, they are simply having some fun because if they were serious they only need to stop cows from dropping hides and problem solved.  :P



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I'm just hoping they fix the wet armor bug. It's really annoying. It's kept me from playing for over a week now, it's not as though the Devs are unaware either. On their own forums they said they were working on a fix, so I was hoping it would be fixed in yesterdays patch. No such luck however.   :(

 

That actually would make a very amusing bug if it only somwhow triggered in Yen's presence.



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But.every women in witcherverse fell in love with him. That still counts.


As far as my knowledge goes (haven't played Tw3 yet) Philippa doesn't fall for Geralt. Same for Saskia. I'm sure there Are others.
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As far as my knowledge goes (haven't played Tw3 yet) Philippa doesn't fall for Geralt. Same for Saskia. I'm sure there Are others.

 

Yup.

 

And they aren't the only ones. There are plenty of moments where Witcher 3 teases towards something, but the woman simply aren't interested.


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As far as my knowledge goes (haven't played Tw3 yet) Philippa doesn't fall for Geralt. Same for Saskia. I'm sure there Are others.

 

Saskia is not really a woman :P

 

In the Witcher universe, they bang. Banging does not equal falling in love.  :devil:



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Phillipa is lesbian. It's been stated in the books.

 

And Saskia is well.... into dwarves. :P



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Geralt is still a "special snowflake", just like Ciri. Protagonists are always like that.

 

Phillipa is lesbian. It's been stated in the books.

 

 

Funny, a lesbian wouldn't go with a man. Especially with a dude like..... Dijkstra. :mellow:

Unless she went with him for other purposes.... and in the game it's been mentioned that she went with 2 dudes, Dijkstra and some other sorcerer (unless i'm gravely mistaken)



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Geralt is still a "special snowflake", just like Ciri. Protagonists are always like that.

 

He doesn't have crazy powers like her though. I actually hate to say this, but Ciri is almost into Mary Sue territory.

 

But yes, its most of the time unavoidable for game protagonists not to be special snowflakes.



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Geralt is still a "special snowflake", just like Ciri. Protagonists are always like that.

 

 

 

Funny, a lesbian wouldn't go with a man. Especially with a dude like..... Dijkstra. :mellow:

Unless she went with him for other purposes.... and in the game it's been mentioned that she went with 2 dudes, Dijkstra and some other sorcerer (unless i'm gravely mistaken)

 

I should probably clarify. In the books, she wasn't a lesbian at beginning but Dijkstra was apparently the last guy who was with her before she changed her sexual orientation (numerous people state that and she even wakes up next to someone's wife in one scene).

 

No idea if he was actually *the* culprit of that change, lol. But they are apparently still on good terms, and whenever he wrote her letters he always had to correct himself to not call her "Phil" anymore.

 

Bear in mind that I am still currently in Novigrad and haven't met the big man himself yet, so I am not aware of any possible rewrites from CD Projekt.