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[Ennai and 54 others]

I will never understand how these old European-based characters should sound American.

Triss Merigold comes off like Belle from Disney's Beauty and the Beast. Dandelion sounds like he's in a production by Rogers and Hammerstein. He also comes off more like a con man than a nosy troubadour. I'm wondering if any character says 'okay', which is an American slang.

I don't mind american accents in european games.Since Rhotic pronounciation (emphasis on the r sound)is actually a bit older than how you hear most english people talk today.

In 1776, whether you were declaring America independent from the crown or swearing your loyalty to King George III, your pronunciation would have been much the same. At that time, American and British accents hadn't yet diverged. What's surprising, though, is that Hollywood costume dramas get it all wrong: The Patriots and the Redcoats spoke with accents that were much closer to the contemporary American accent than to the Queen's English.
It is the standard British accent that has drastically changed in the past two centuries, while the typical American accent has changed only subtly.
Traditional English, whether spoken in the British Isles or the American colonies, was largely "rhotic." Rhotic speakers pronounce the "R" sound in such words as "hard" and "winter," while non-rhotic speakers do not. Today, however, non-rhotic speech is common throughout most of Britain. For example, most modern Brits would tell you it's been a "hahd wintuh."

http://m.livescience...ts-accents.html

Some of the minor npcs even have a version of this type of pronounciation

[correctamundo]

It is not europe, it is Temeria, Skellige, Nilfgaard etc.

[Rawgrim]

Finally started playing the game now. I think I am 3 hours in or something. Damn. This game is insane. So much quality. Even the smallest side quests have a story to them. Changing weather effects, the detailed faces of everyone you meet. So much stuff in this game to just stare at. I can understand why someone might not like Geralt, though. He isn't for everyone. But the rest of the game is just stunning. Might be I have a new favorite game.

[Elhanan]

So much quality, storied side-quests, changing weather effects, detailed faces; yet the PC assigned to play in all of it is understandably disagreeable to some. Cart > horse maybe....

[Torgette]

It'd be nice going forward to see a new AAA rpg that gets away from the medieval european fantasy trope, europe isn't the only thing that existed during that time, why not mix in some middle eastern and asian?

[Elhanan]

It'd be nice going forward to see a new AAA rpg that gets away from the medieval european fantasy trope, europe isn't the only thing that existed during that time, why not mix in some middle eastern and asian?

Have yet to play it, but Bioware does have Jade Empire in their titles. And while no authority on the culture of the Middle East, it seems to have influenced some of the extant lore of DAI already. This might be seen in some of the beliefs held by those in the Qun, as well as possible influences viewed in the desert regions of the DA series.

[SofaJockey]

So much quality, storied side-quests, changing weather effects, detailed faces; yet the PC assigned to play in all of it is understandably disagreeable to some. Cart > horse maybe....

 

I struggle to see why Geralt would be an issue to anyone.

He has quite a dry turn of phrase and sense of humour, but is largely a noble protagonist (it's hard to play him as an ass).

[untuvainen]

It'd be nice going forward to see a new AAA rpg that gets away from the medieval european fantasy trope, europe isn't the only thing that existed during that time, why not mix in some middle eastern and asian?

 

Probably because it's hard for a westerners to do without being/seeming insensitive. What would you take and add from those cultures?

For example I can think of Blades/Akaviri from The Elder Scrolls series and maybe Morrowind. Though it's "alien world" didn't go well with all players. Most prefere the safe european fantasy.

[untuvainen]

Just ignore him, it's best that way. He keeps repeating himself otherwise till the end of times.

[Andreas Amell]

'Temeria,Skellige, and Niflgaard' sound even less plausible in North America. So no, I'd rather listen to this game in Polish. And thank god for subtitles.

[Ennai and 54 others]

It'd be nice going forward to see a new AAA rpg that gets away from the medieval european fantasy trope, europe isn't the only thing that existed during that time, why not mix in some middle eastern and asian?

 

They should take inspiration from their own fever dreams.What happened to creativity? Science fiction has more constraints to it and yet I see much more fantastical and weird creative stuff there.

 

Take inspiration from HP lovecraft, or Zdzislaw Beksinski. Bioware had part of the game situated in the fade,they could have added something like  this or this.Unless they don't want to scare the children.....

 

Video game developers have already shown they can create detailed and real looking game worlds.But since video games aren't the real world,and they have full control over what their world looks like,they could do what ever the hell they want! Make the mountains bigger or even alive ,make the sun a giant eye ball and make the deserts white.Instead we get boring but realistic landscapes like in the witcher.

[Dreadstruck]

I'd also love if NPCs got a schedule like in The Witcher. Since TW1, they walk around, do their stuff, converse with others and even hide below something when it's raining (and lament the same rain as well).

 

Just a minor thing, but I'd love it.

 

 

Just ignore him, it's best that way. He keeps repeating himself otherwise till the end of times.

 

He actually strikes me like he's afraid that Bioware might take some inspiration from CD Projekt for future titles.

 

I mean, what is the point of this Feedback section for him if all he does is trying to contradict anyone who says positive things about TW3 in comparison to Inquisition? A "DA:I appreciation thread" might be more suited for him.

 

Really odd. And maybe a bit salty as well. But whatever, if Elhanan feels like wasting his time, effort and energy like that is worth it, then it's his fight. *shrugs*

[Torgette]

Have yet to play it, but Bioware does have Jade Empire in their titles. And while no authority on the culture of the Middle East, it seems to have influenced some of the extant lore of DAI already. This might be seen in some of the beliefs held by those in the Qun, as well as possible influences viewed in the desert regions of the DA series.

 

Jade Empire was fun if a bit hokey at times, you should definitely check it out though. The desert regions of DA haven't really given me much of a unique impression so far, they feel more like just ruins of past Tevinter imperial stuff than anything middle eastern with maybe the exception of the surface Dwarven ruins.

 

Probably because it's hard for a westerners to do without being/seeming insensitive. What would you take and add from those cultures?

For example I can think of Blades/Akaviri from The Elder Scrolls series and maybe Morrowind. Though it's "alien world" didn't go well with all players. Most prefere the safe european fantasy.

 

Well this is definitely true of any region but it's been pulled off in the past, ie: Assassins Creed 1's depiction of the crusades and the middle east was pretty well done even if it was all made up, they deftly avoided shaping religion itself in favor of depicting people who wished to corrupt religion for their own use. I think some untouched eras of the middle east would be interesting inspiration namely the pre-Islamic periods like the Persians and Alexandrian empire as well as the medieval period when the middle east was developing Algebra and architecture took off.

[Gwydden]

It'd be nice going forward to see a new AAA rpg that gets away from the medieval european fantasy trope, europe isn't the only thing that existed during that time, why not mix in some middle eastern and asian?

This has a very simple explanation.

 

We live in Western civilization, and by 'we' I mean most WRPGs developers and their target audience. As such, we tend to subconsciously assume Western civilization is better, more interesting, and more appealing than others (unless you're me, then you consciously admit it xD). We default to it. Everything else falls under the 'exotic' category.

 

Video game developers have already shown they can create detailed and real looking game worlds.But since video games aren't the real world,and they have full control over what their world looks like,they could do what ever the hell they want! Make the mountains bigger or even alive ,make the sun a giant eye ball and make the deserts white.Instead we get boring but realistic landscapes like in the witcher.

I can't help feeling sad for people who call reality 'boring' xD

[Ennai and 54 others]

This has a very simple explanation.

 

We live in Western civilization, and by 'we' I mean most WRPGs developers and their target audience. As such, we tend to subconsciously assume Western civilization is better, more interesting, and more appealing than others (unless you're me, then you consciously admit it xD). We default to it. Everything else falls under the 'exotic' category.

 

I can't help feeling sad for people who call reality 'boring' xD

Sigh.

 

I never said reality was boring.There are some aspects of the natural world which are interesting,like basalt cliffs ,volcanic lightning and white rainbows,flaming tornadoes,unusual clouds.I just never see these things either(beside the cliffs)

[Torgette]

This has a very simple explanation.

 

We live in Western civilization, and by 'we' I mean most WRPGs developers and their target audience. As such, we tend to subconsciously assume Western civilization is better, more interesting, and more appealing than others (unless you're me, then you consciously admit it xD). We default to it. Everything else falls under the 'exotic' category.

 

I think it's more just everybody basing their fantasy on Tolkien ideas. Western civilization itself has been influenced, shaped and affected by said exotic cultures for thousands of years already and Bioware themselves are located in two melting pot countries anyways.

[Elhanan]

Your point? Dude we get it you don't like Geralt but post this in the "What DA I does better than TW3" thread

You haven't even played the game

And you are partially correct; am not playing the game. I know little of the character, and likely will not attempt to do so.

But the previous poster appears to be addressing those that do not care for Geralt, and they seem to understand why. My point is that since it seems to be a beautifully crafted environment, perhaps making a PC that was able to be enjoyed by more than the current group of Players might have been more of a priority.

Again, bias blinds context....

[Elhanan]

I'd also love if NPCs got a schedule like in The Witcher. Since TW1, they walk around, do their stuff, converse with others and even hide below something when it's raining (and lament the same rain as well).
 
Just a minor thing, but I'd love it. 
 
He actually strikes me like he's afraid that Bioware might take some inspiration from CD Projekt for future titles.
 
I mean, what is the point of this Feedback section for him if all he does is trying to contradict anyone who says positive things about TW3 in comparison to Inquisition? A "DA:I appreciation thread" might be more suited for him.
 
Really odd. And maybe a bit salty as well. But whatever, if Elhanan feels like wasting his time, effort and energy like that is worth it, then it's his fight. *shrugs*

Actually wish TW3 the best; could be GOTY 2015 for that team. Love what has been done to eliminate DRM and hope that GOG Galaxy is useful for those that enjoy m/p games.

But I do tire of reading posts that fail to represent TW3, and simply want to diminish DAI, that team while on their forums. So I speak up, and some seem to fail to comprehend what was written over what they assume I actually said. For those folks, I recommend the Ignore option here.

[Elhanan]

Jade Empire was fun if a bit hokey at times, you should definitely check it out though. The desert regions of DA haven't really given me much of a unique impression so far, they feel more like just ruins of past Tevinter imperial stuff than anything middle eastern with maybe the exception of the surface Dwarven ruins.
 
Well this is definitely true of any region but it's been pulled off in the past, ie: Assassins Creed 1's depiction of the crusades and the middle east was pretty well done even if it was all made up, they deftly avoided shaping religion itself in favor of depicting people who wished to corrupt religion for their own use. I think some untouched eras of the middle east would be interesting inspiration namely the pre-Islamic periods like the Persians and Alexandrian empire as well as the medieval period when the middle east was developing Algebra and architecture took off.

I was speaking more of the Western Approach and the larger populations of people seen there. The actual regions may have had influence from the Sahara desert; uncertain. But the unique outlook, habits, and culture of those in the Qun seem to have attachments to those held in Middle Eastern beliefs; insure the safety and comfort of the enemy while in camp, preference to act with honor; avoid lies. Etc.

[Xetykins]

And you are partially correct; am not playing the game. I know little of the character, and likely will not attempt to do so.But the previous poster appears to be addressing those that do not care for Geralt, and they seem to understand why. My point is that since it seems to be a beautifully crafted environment, perhaps making a PC that was able to be enjoyed by more than the current group of Players might have been more of a priority.Again, bias blinds context....

I'm sorry, but it seems to me, by your countless anti-tw3 posts that they could have made the best protagonist in all rpg games and you still would not like him. Because no cc, wrong orientation etc. Or just because its not dragon age.

I've never played the game and probably won't ever, but looking at those let's plays really is nudging me to plunge in right now. And I say Geralt is just fine.

[Elhanan]

I'm sorry, but it seems to me, by your countless anti-tw3 posts that they could have made the best protagonist in all rpg games and you still would not like him. Because no cc, wrong orientation etc. Or just because its not dragon age.

I've never played the game and probably won't ever, but looking at those let's plays really is nudging me to plunge in right now. And I say Geralt is just fine.

Assumption is not comprehending.

I am not anti-TW3, and choose not to play the game due to a lack of game mechanics (eg; Pause), and the content that is chosen to be included. However, I do like the DA series (ie; DAO > DAI > DA2), and have enjoyed all of them, and do not mind offering a defense of that opinion. But as one that also plays Skyrim quite a bit, I would say that my RPG tastes can go beyond the province of Bioware.

[Xetykins]

Assumption is not comprehending.I am not anti-TW3, and choose not to play the game due to a lack of game mechanics (eg; Pause), and the content that is chosen to be included. However, I do like the DA series (ie; DAO > DAI > DA2), and have enjoyed all of them, and do not mind offering a defense of that opinion. But as one that also plays Skyrim quite a bit, I would say that my RPG tastes can go beyond the province of Bioware.

I like Dragon age too and like you, Origins is my absolute favorite. But I don't go all defensive mode about it, specially when there's something to gain when looking at this game. I never want da series to be like witcher in every respect, just the depth on the quest and story.