I believe the preferred insults are "cissexist straight white male shitlord" or just the good old "die cis scum!"
I think the term SJW probably is overused and thrown around too casually. It's funny because on these boards i've been called an SJW and the opposite. I consider myself to be a moderate liberal. I think the term applies to people who get worked up about the smallest things and make them out to be a huge societal problem that's all about privilege. Case in point, "manspreading."
I believe the preferred insults are "cissexist straight white male shitlord" or just the good old "die cis scum!"
I think the term SJW probably is overused and thrown around too casually. It's funny because on these boards i've been called an SJW and the opposite. I consider myself to be a moderate liberal. I think the term applies to people who get worked up about the smallest things and make them out to be a huge societal problem that's all about privilege. Case in point, "manspreading."
I've been called a "liberal SJW scum" by the fallen Handsome Jack 
I believe the preferred insults are "cissexist straight white male shitlord" or just the good old "die cis scum!"
I think the term SJW probably is overused and thrown around too casually. It's funny because on these boards i've been called an SJW and the opposite. I consider myself to be a moderate liberal. I think the term applies to people who get worked up about the smallest things and make them out to be a huge societal problem that's all about privilege. Case in point, "manspreading."
The fudge's that?
I've been called a "liberal SJW scum" by the fallen Handsome Jack
They must not have read much of your post history. You're not a jerk about stuff like LGBT content or women or any of that. That doesnt make someone a SJW.
Let's remove tumblr and the internet for a second. There is something that I've noticed over the last year or so, ever since the term "SJW" really came into use outside of tumblr. Everyone keeps over-explaining what they think a SJW is, and I find the term meaningless for several reasons. I get the basic principle though. It comes down to this:
No one appreciates being lectured about their life from someone with no follow through. If someone believes in what they are saying, and believes in social change, then they should be out hitting the right websites and writing emails to their government or supporting a petition they believe in on sites like change.org. It's the folks that just sit and complain and feel the need to constantly express their judgment that earn a lot of collective scorn. In this context they are also the "but for the children" and "omg, Janet Jackson's pasty" types that freak out if there is a bad word on TV or a hint of a nipple.
I get that, but I've seen SJW used time and time again as an attack that's really nothing more than, "I don't like what you think, and I disagree with you, so I'm going to be as big of a jerk about it." I hope that I've made it clear that anyone, liberal, conservative or otherwise, that uses someone's gender, sexual preference or race (or religion) as a default insult is an ass. Those that use an insult like, "cismale white shitlord" or whatever are just as horrid as people that go off on the LGBT community, minorities, or women. I will say I'm sick of the overall pettiness and dismissive attitude behind it all, but that's just human nature. I made my peace with that years ago.
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I've heard of this stupid "outcry." Guys have longer legs usually, so they sit with their legs open. It's called "manspreading" and it's as high school as it sounds. "Oh no, guys usually have much longer legs so they sit with theirs open because it's harder to stretch forward." The horror. 
I live with a man that's 6'5", so my sympathies are absent for folks that have chosen that whine as their flag to fly. Talk about bigger things to worry about. See, it's crap like this that comes up that turns the word "feminist" into "unreasonable man hater."
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I'm kind of sad. I understand why however.
I've been called a "liberal SJW scum" by the fallen Handsome Jack
Bioware has nothing to worry about as long as they go back to Origins, instead of trying to be both a tactical party-based RPG of old and an action game but failing miserably at both.
I got hit with the opposite. I remember a long time ago when DA2 debuted and Dave of Canada and I were supporting Templars in a templar/mage thread. One user in particular flooded my inbox with the most vile of insults, the tamest one being that I was a "rape enthusiast". I know Dave got hit with a bunch of bile, too. People can be strange when it comes to their convictions.
Tossing ya a sympathy like. I'm so thankful for the ignore function. Good gods.
It's right up there with one user PM'ing me and telling me that my best friend of nearly 20 years should have been deported back to Russia because he was born in the USSR. Even though I had explained that he came here on political asylum in 1990. Guess what? Mage/templar debate strikes again.
I spent, oh, about 7 months or so pretty active in those debates. I don't engage in them anymore. I prefer dwarven rogues anyhow. 
I got hit with the opposite. I remember a long time ago when DA2 debuted and Dave of Canada and I were supporting Templars in a templar/mage thread. One user in particular flooded my inbox with the most vile of insults, the tamest one being that I was a "rape enthusiast". I know Dave got hit with a bunch of bile, too. People can be strange when it comes to their convictions.
Hahaha.. I did multiple playthroughs of DA2, and one of the most interesting character growths I've witnessed were Carver, the male brother that survived the Blight. Carver. When it came time to support a side, I chose to side with the Templar.
The hatred I got from my at the time significant other, "You.. Douche..", my friends that actually played DA2 were baffled at why I would choose to side with the big bad templars? Why not the mages? I gave the game at least five play throughs, you'd think at some point people would explore more than fifty percent of the game.
Hahaha.. I did multiple playthroughs of DA2, and one of the most interesting character growths I've witnessed were Carver, the male brother that survived the Blight. Carver. When it came time to support a side, I chose to side with the Templar.
The hatred I got from my at the time significant other, "You.. Douche..", my friends that actually played DA2 were baffled at why I would choose to side with the big bad templars? Why not the mages? I gave the game at least five play throughs, you'd think at some point people would explore more than fifty percent of the game.
Pro Mage or Pro-Templar Debater: "How could you side with the evil mages/abusive templars?"
Me: "I'm not siding with anything. It's called roleplaying."
D: "But you're the player! That means it's your choice and that's how you must feel"
Me: "Yes I'm the player, and no I don't have to stick with one choice. Sure, I have some personal feelings about the lore, but I'm not picking sides."
D: "You have to pick a side!"
Me: "Nah, I'm gonna go play a dwarf. Catch you guys later."
Edit: Your SO called you a douche because of a RP choice? Damn. My husband and I would never do that. In fact, like in ToR, we'd discuss the pros and cons of our RP choices without the insults. I know video games have a cultural impact, but it is just a piece of (usually) fictional media at the end of the day.
I got hit with the opposite. I remember a long time ago when DA2 debuted and Dave of Canada and I were supporting Templars in a templar/mage thread. One user in particular flooded my inbox with the most vile of insults, the tamest one being that I was a "rape enthusiast". I know Dave got hit with a bunch of bile, too. People can be strange when it comes to their convictions.
I once got asked if I support Mutant Registration in the X-Men because I said policing mages was a good idea.
Ironically I do support Mutant Registration and I'm really sad Senator Kelly is always portrayed as an evil racist rather then a man looking out for the public's safety.
I once got asked if I support Mutant Registration in the X-Men because I said policing mages was a good idea.
Ironically I do support Mutant Registration and I'm really sad Senator Kelly is always portrayed as an evil racist rather then a man looking out for the public's safety.
+1
I WILL SAY THIS however
I used to study criminal justice back in college. First year I learned that a majority of police officers 'burn out' in their first year on duty. Cynicism breeds for apathy or abuse of power. The same could hold true for Templars. They aren't all jerks, just a lot of them stop believing in keeping the mage safe from themself, that they look at mages as problems and justify their abusive behavior toward the mage.
If someone invokes SJW (whether to criticize them or otherwise) they are a SJW (at least a little bit). Heck, everyone probably has some SJW in them somewhere, the more important question is who has the right message anyway.
As far as themes and overall messages go I do find Witcher series generally superior, it's not just because they're like "real sex yeah" it's just the characters seem more trustworthy or something, less self-critical, more confident, or something, while still fitting into the same basic fantasy mold and all that entails. Oftentimes they're just nicer (certainly not Loredo though) DA is not necessarily that far behind because of Origins, but also Inquisition kinda, although 2 I thought was problematic for all kinds of reasons and really diminished my opinion of the franchise.
DA sucks then what are you doing here? Glorifying Witcher.If someone invokes SJW (whether to criticize them or otherwise) they are a SJW (at least a little bit). Heck, everyone probably has some SJW in them somewhere, the more important question is who has the right message anyway.
As far as themes and overall messages go I do find Witcher series generally superior, it's not just because they're like "real sex yeah" it's just the characters seem more trustworthy or something, less self-critical, more confident, or something, while still fitting into the same basic fantasy mold and all that entails. Oftentimes they're just nicer (certainly not Loredo though) DA is not necessarily that far behind because of Origins, but also Inquisition kinda, although 2 I thought was problematic for all kinds of reasons and really diminished my opinion of the franchise.
DA sucks then what are you doing here? Glorifying Witcher.
I've been reading trying to keep an open mind and listen to both sides of this debate. The other side to this is folks that are hoping that BioWare takes notice and starts going in a direction they would prefer. I'm not going to even touch the idea of anyone being right or wrong on this issue, because a lot of feedback is talking about personal preferences. I don't always agree, and I sometimes strongly disagree, but I think many of the points raised by both sides are valid. Well, as long as the immature insults and personal attacks are left out of it. I try not to sweat details about a preferred game style or company. RPG fans, we love video games, all that should matter, ect ect. I've made several posts about that before.
Still, I've read that a lot of fans in that position are hoping that the DA team listens to their criticisms and suggestions in relation to the Witcher (that are actually constructive) in order to improve the DA series for them. Do I agree with most of those comments? Nope, but I respect where they might be coming from. Besides, at least there was a decent point in there. It's better than, "Well, DA just sucks," or " DA has become BioWare's feminist fantasies." I don't agree with Kefka, but it's constructive. Which is more than I can say about 1/2 of the posts about TW vs DA.
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This. And people wonder why everyone think feminist are idiots.
http://www.telegraph...s-together.html
I enjoy flawed characters, though some bioware characters you feel like you're dragging them along - they are at least memorable i'll give them that. Different tastes and all that, I also enjoyed Planescape Torment for its flawed characters.If someone invokes SJW (whether to criticize them or otherwise) they are a SJW (at least a little bit). Heck, everyone probably has some SJW in them somewhere, the more important question is who has the right message anyway.
As far as themes and overall messages go I do find Witcher series generally superior, it's not just because they're like "real sex yeah" it's just the characters seem more trustworthy or something, less self-critical, more confident, or something, while still fitting into the same basic fantasy mold and all that entails. Oftentimes they're just nicer (certainly not Loredo though) DA is not necessarily that far behind because of Origins, but also Inquisition kinda, although 2 I thought was problematic for all kinds of reasons and really diminished my opinion of the franchise.
I've been reading trying to keep an open mind and listen to both sides of this debate. The other side to this is folks that are hoping that BioWare takes notice and starts going in a direction they would prefer. I'm not going to even touch the idea of anyone being right or wrong on this issue, because a lot of feedback is talking about personal preferences. I don't always agree, and I sometimes strongly disagree, but I think many of the points raised by both sides are valid. Well, as long as the immature insults and personal attacks are left out of it. I try not to sweat details about a preferred game style or company. RPG fans, we love video games, all that should matter, ect ect. I've made several posts about that before.
Still, I've read that a lot of fans in that position are hoping that the DA team listens to their criticisms and suggestions in relation to the Witcher (that are actually constructive) in order to improve the DA series for them. Do I agree with most of those comments? Nope, but I respect where they might be coming from. Besides, at least there was a decent point in there. It's better than, "Well, DA just sucks," or " DA has become BioWare's feminist fantasies." I don't agree with Kefka, but it's constructive. Which is more than I can say about 1/2 of the posts about TW vs DA.
DA sucks then what are you doing here? Glorifying Witcher.
I wanted to see DA:I be as good as it can be, it seems like for whatever reason they're still interested in trying to improve their series (or whatever comes next). Plus I've noticed a lot of people are pretty openly dissatisfied with DA so there's a way to connect with whatever those people are saying. If they weren't here I probably wouldn't be either.
It's not a requirement that a fan board's sole purpose be that of enhancing and supporting the series which it supports.
Finally while I wasn't really a fan of DA I did really like BG quite a bit and there's just this kind of lunatic not founded in reality hope that they'll make games like that again someday.
Plus I don't speak Polish, not that all their fans are polish but well... yeah.
I enjoy flawed characters, though some bioware characters you feel like you're dragging them along - they are at least memorable i'll give them that. Different tastes and all that, I also enjoyed Planescape Torment for its flawed characters.
I kind of thought Planescape Torment was about pretty kind of superhero-y kinds of characters to be honest... same for Baldur's Gate which I just mentioned. It's kind of not necessarily like "Superman" superhero but it's still the same sort of deal.
I don't agree with Kefka, but it's constructive. Which is more than I can say about 1/2 of the posts about TW vs DA.
Well that's nice of you. I mean, I've played probably hundreds, if not thousands of video games including virtually all the Bioware games, Witcher 1 and 2, Torment, Icewind Dale, Obsidian games, countless JRPGs, etc, most of them when they came out, I'd like to think I actually know what I'm talking about.
I've talked with people about the Witcher vs DA before, I've played both initial and later games a few times through each, I've read parts of the books. I just think the DA series is too close to Tolkien (especially the great big bad evil Darkspawn gimmick) for my interests, whereas The Witcher is like equal parts Tolkien and strange eastern european pagan mythology and dirty low fantasy.
DA actually kind of zagged almost backwards away from Low fantasy and almost into mainstream Christian territory (with maker, etc) which I thought was kind of a strange twist.
I think when people say they want DA to be more like Witcher, I think that refers to side quests and more dialogue choices during them. I'm replaying Pillars of Eternity, I feel the side quests in that were adequate. They had there own little story, we got to roleplay them pretty much how we wished, getting some XP, gold and perhaps increasing our character traits in the process.
One thing I don't want DA to take from the Witcher is a fixed companion or removal of the party system, I want to have my choice to play as a human or dwarf etc.
Hell if given the choice I'd play as an elf or dwarf in the Witcher games, I think that could be interesting.
This. And people wonder why everyone think feminist are idiots.
Most feminists actually mock that kind of behavior from what I've seen.
I hate to say it but upon re-reading an old favourite series of mine I feel as though a lot of the dragon age world and story is ripped directly from the Wheel of Time series.
Not in the usual "Oh hey, they're both epic high fantasy settings and have the same tropes!" but in the "Oh hey there are cities with the same names with one letter different, there are characters with the same names and personalities, there are big plot points that are the same...
Oh and there's this:
Wardens (DA) - Well known warriours who are pledged to fight the shadow and can sense darkspawn and the taint of the blight.
Warders (WoT) - Well known warriours who are pledged to fight the shadow (And bonded to Aes Sedai so there's one difference) who can sense darkspawn (more often called darkfriends or darkfiends but still called darkspawn sometimes) and the taint of the blight.
Amoung a few other things.
It gets worse and worse... or better and better depending on your point of view.
I've heard many people say this is a tremendous series that falls apart miserably about halfway through and makes you regret you started it. True, in your opinion? I've thought of giving it a try but I don't want to start an epic quest just to get a kick in the nuts, like with The Dark Tower series. 
Then we can talk about how DA4 should look.
Since we've already seen how DA3 looked, are we even sure there will/should be a DA4? I have my doubts. If the game was deemed a success, Bioware will figure "great, let's make the next one similar". If the game was a failure, maybe they'll just give up. But since Inquisition was such a monstrosity and I so approve of CDPR's philosophies of delaying release to increase quality and free DLC and not desperately trying to be three different kinds of games, I still argue that this thread is valid pre-witched 3 release.
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