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#4801
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I sure hope the bloody baron is not the hight point of the game. It is good and all but a bit behind the major story points of DAI. I wont be disappointed in the game it it turns out to be true but I am kind of hoping for more.



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While That might possibly explain launch and pre-order sales, that does not explain the myriad of reviews by both Players and professionals, but the GOTY awards, too.


Well it is Goty too in my book for 2014 because nothing else of note was released. If you look at critics review look at metacritics and other sites' user score vs prof score. The difference is huugee. Now look at TW3, I believe the masses has spoken.

Though it did not mattet to me much as I've enjoyed character /companions that Bioware seems to deliver with excellence. That's one of the most important things to me.
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Meanwhile, the FFVII remake is a go as of E3 yesterday.  This is an official trailer and it isn't a fake:

 

 

Wow! Didnt think they would do it! Cant wait to see the wonders physic engine will do for Tifa  :whistle:


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#4804
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Yeah there are a lot of butthurt people on metacritic. Just take out the popcorn and read some of their in-depth reviews =). Most are happy though.



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I sure hope the bloody baron is not the hight point of the game. It is good and all but a bit behind the major story points of DAI. I wont be disappointed in the game it it turns out to be true but I am kind of hoping for more.

 

Tbh I didn't care all that much for that quest.



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Finished the battle involving Kaer Morhen. Huh, wow. That was something else. And I thought the game would end at that point, which would be equivalent to DA:I's last act that dissapointed me so much.

 

Nope, the game still goes on strong! :lol:

 

While it wasn't on the level of ME2 Suicide Mission, it was a pretty intense experience nonetheless. I loved how it was not solely centered on Geralt and gave way to the badassery of other Witchers or companions as well. (Eskel having an awesome miniboss fight, Hjalmar knocking a Wild Hunt rider back into the portal, and then coming back alone.. and Zoltan being Zoltan etc.)

 

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I sure hope the bloody baron is not the hight point of the game. It is good and all but a bit behind the major story points of DAI. I wont be disappointed in the game it it turns out to be true but I am kind of hoping for more.

 
Is there even anything you liked about TW3? Just a legitimate question. :huh:


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#4807
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Is there even anything you liked about TW3? Just a legitimate question. :huh:

 

Hey! Most of it! I think I have written that I really, really like the game before. It is just that I really, really like DAI as well. At first I was a bit on the fence on Geralt himself but now he has grown om me seriously. I prefer making my own character but Geralt is my good buddy nowadays. It is like that. So the baron was a bit errandy but really good. But I rank IYHSB, hushed whispers, here lies the abyss, what pride wrought higher.



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Hey! Most of it! I think I have written that I really, really like the game before. It is just that I really, really like DAI as well. At first I was a bit on the fence on Geralt himself but now he has grown om me seriously. I prefer making my own character but Geralt is my good buddy nowadays. It is like that. So the baron was a bit errandy but really good. But I rank IYHSB, hushed whispers, here lies the abyss, what pride wrought higher.

 

Where are you in the game? Or have you finished the game yet? I am just wondering if there's any aspects you'd like for next DA game. :)



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Where are you in the game? Or have you finished the game yet? I am just wondering if there's any aspects you'd like for next DA game. :)

 

I can definitely see how it would be better to tie in the maps closer to the main story, utilize assets like solasan, dwarven tombs etc better in the story for upcoming DA.

 

I am in skellige and next big thing is Uma.



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Well it is Goty too in my book for 2014 because nothing else of note was released. If you look at critics review look at metacritics and other sites' user score vs prof score. The difference is huugee. Now look at TW3, I believe the masses has spoken.

Though it did not mattet to me much as I've enjoyed character /companions that Bioware seems to deliver with excellence. That's one of the most important things to me.


No; it simply indicates the difference in Metacritic User scores at best. At worst, the site still allows those that have not seen the game to participate in reviews, and has flawed algorithms; promotes invalid information.

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No; it simply indicates the difference in Metacritic User scores at best. At worst, the site still allows those that have not seen the game to participate in reviews, and has flawed algorithms; promotes invalid information.


Still does not matter though. You can sprout out all the mathematical wotnot you want but, how the hell could they almost even out user and critic score in Tw3 or DAO and not DAI? The difference is huge! Last time I checked it was 9 critic score and 5 for user.

Are you really saying that everyone is out for Inquisition's blood? Rating it low even though they loved it? Granted some of them are just trolling but thats a lot of difference in between.
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#4812
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Still does not matter though. You can sprout out all the mathematical wotnot you want but, how the hell could they almost even out user and critic score in Tw3 or DAO and not DAI? The difference is huge! Last time I checked it was 9 critic score and 5 for user.

Are you really saying that everyone is out for Inquisition's blood? Rating it low even though they loved it? Granted some of them are just trolling but thats a lot of difference in between.

 

Tbh I would've rated DAI a low score after my first playthrough, I only really enjoyed the game on my second playthrough, it's a weird game in that knowing what to do and what not to do can infer a good 3 point swing on my scale.



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Tbh I would've rated DAI a low score after my first playthrough, I only really enjoyed the game on my second playthrough, it's a weird game in that knowing what to do and what not to do can infer a good 3 point swing on my scale.


Im opposite. I really loved it on my first then totally got stale on the second. Not even the prospect of meeting grey warden Alistair ( squee!) ws on my third gave me the will to go on.

Having said that, I did not delete the game from my pcs because I still have hope ( if it kills me) that we will be seeing better dlc stories in the future. Jaws of hakkon was alright though. But im not feking buying that money grab dlc called spoils of war. By the name of that dlc, it should have been free. Disgusting.
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No; it simply indicates the difference in Metacritic User scores at best. At worst, the site still allows those that have not seen the game to participate in reviews, and has flawed algorithms; promotes invalid information.

If you played it, you might not disagree. It's quite impossible for you to say it's not when you refuse to even give it a chance.


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Im opposite. I really loved it on my first then totally got stale on the second. Not even the prospect of meeting grey warden Alistair ( squee!) ws on my third gave me the will to go on.

Having said that, I did not delete the game from my pcs because I still have hope ( if it kills me) that we will be seeing better dlc stories in the future. Jaws of hakkon was alright though. But im not feking buying that money grab dlc called spoils of war. By the name of that dlc, it should have been free. Disgusting.

 

Yup same for me too. I had a very similar experience with DA2 as well. Loved it at first, then my enjoyment gradually dipped as I went through the games. It's mostly the grindy gameplay and godawful combat. Inquisition adds to the boredom with yet more grinding and countless fetch quests, many with no human interaction whatsoever. It's probably an enjoyable experience if you aren't a completionist like me though.


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Yup same for me too. I had a very similar experience with DA2 as well. Loved it at first, then my enjoyment gradually dipped as I went through the games. It's mostly the grindy gameplay and godawful combat. Inquisition adds to the boredom with yet more grinding and countless fetch quests, many with no human interaction whatsoever. It's probably an enjoyable experience if you aren't a completionist like me though.

I felt similarly when playing DAI. In retrospect, I realized that a lot of my motivation came from the hope to have another epic moment like the founding of the inquisition or the discovery of Skyhold, but the game's later parts never gripped me like that again. And once I knew that wouldn't happen, subsequent playthroughs all ended a bit after moving to Skyhold.

 

Now that I have finished TW3, here's one or two other things that they did well: they ended not just a single game, but an entire trilogy in a very satisfying, hell-yeah, I-want-to-play-again way. I cheered at the ending. :D


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#4817
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I sure hope the bloody baron is not the hight point of the game.

It is not. The game has continued being stellar.


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Errand boy? Sounds familiar

 

At least TW3's main story and side quests are very well done

Ah yes, "Errand boy", the Inquisitor's other lesser-known title.



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Still does not matter though. You can sprout out all the mathematical wotnot you want but, how the hell could they almost even out user and critic score in Tw3 or DAO and not DAI? The difference is huge! Last time I checked it was 9 critic score and 5 for user.

Are you really saying that everyone is out for Inquisition's blood? Rating it low even though they loved it? Granted some of them are just trolling but thats a lot of difference in between.


Not only Haters post on Metacritic, but those of the polar extreme also post there, too. The 0's and 10's (both often seen at launch) influence the results towards a result of 5 even before flawed math may gain control of it.

But if the results are bogus, it does not matter if they are negative or positive; they are still invalid. It does matter; bad info is bad.

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If you played it, you might not disagree. It's quite impossible for you to say it's not when you refuse to even give it a chance.


Again, I love pizza; hate anchovies. If I know that anchovies are going to be on a certain pie, I do not have to order and try it to be aware that it will not be enjoyed. Too many anchovies in TW3 for me; no Pause either.

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Most gamers make poor critics. They quite often don't know how to give a review without resporting to hyperbole, and every game is described as either being the most amazing thing ever or the worst pile of crap they've ever played. Their review scores also reflect that, with most voting 10s or 0s or 1s and little in between. 

 

On a site like Metacritic, if you're browsing user reviews the best way to go about it IMO is to immediately ignore any review that gives the game a 10, a 0, or 1. Just read those with a score somewhere in between, and look for trends in elements that keep getting singled out either for praise or criticism. That's the best way to go about it if you're looking for an accurate consensus on the game without getting led astray by people who turn up the hyperbole, or by  fanboys or haters, both of whom write reviews saddled with biases and have their heads buried in the sand.


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Yup same for me too. I had a very similar experience with DA2 as well. Loved it at first, then my enjoyment gradually dipped as I went through the games. It's mostly the grindy gameplay and godawful combat. Inquisition adds to the boredom with yet more grinding and countless fetch quests, many with no human interaction whatsoever. It's probably an enjoyable experience if you aren't a completionist like me though.

 

To be fair, on nightmare mode you actually have to use your group CC spells or else they clobber you. I felt important as a mage. I even 'tanked' as a blood mage! It was fantastic. XD



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Most gamers make poor critics. They quite often don't know how to give a review without resporting to hyperbole, and every game is described as either being the most amazing thing ever or the worst pile of crap they've ever played. Their review scores also reflect that, with most voting 10s or 0s or 1s and little in between. 

 

On a site like Metacritic, if you're browsing user reviews the best way to go about it IMO is to immediately ignore any review that gives the game a 10, a 0, or 1. Just read those with a score somewhere in between, and look for trends in elements that keep getting singled out either for praise or criticism. That's the best way to go about it if you're looking for an accurate consensus on the game without getting led astray by people who turn up the hyperbole, or by  fanboys or haters, both of whom write reviews saddled with biases and have their heads buried in the sand.

 

I gave it close to a 5 I think. Visuals, companions, exploration were my high points, and then I listed my problems with the game. I don't think 10/10's or 1-3's are bad if they state everything that they like instead of just an general "This is awful" or "This is amazing!" review.


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Not only Haters post on Metacritic, but those of the polar extreme also post there, too. The 0's and 10's (both often seen at launch) influence the results towards a result of 5 even before flawed math may gain control of it.

But if the results are bogus, it does not matter if they are negative or positive; they are still invalid. It does matter; bad info is bad.

I don't see why you are putting so much stock in what this reviewer said or reward this game gave. Who cares.

 

DAI won rewards because there was not really much if any competition for them to compete against. Once a game wins a reward another place comes in and hands them a reward because they want to say they did too.

 

DAI is not a horrible nor is it a great great game, - its just OK.  Is it worse then DA2? In certain areas, yes.

 

As for reviewers most of them have been known to take money under the table to give a game high marks. Not all have known to do this. Some simply follow the crowd. Others give a game good reviews because they do really like it with no strings attached and that is fine.

 

The game was over-hyped and many people had high expectations. There are those who simply state our opinion that we will not be blinded by such over-hype nor the love of the DA series by giving it good reviews. Others simply cannot give it bad remarks because they really did enjoy the game or they are not one to judge.

 

I recall Fable 2 selling very well and then turned into a disappointment. Sales are sales meant to give the company back not to be a beacon of how awesome the game is.

 

The game is good only if you think it is good. I've liked many games to where no rewards were giving, poor sales and so-so reviews.  Then there are games that did well in sales, given rewards,  good reviews and I did not find the game deserving of any.

 

Your opinion is what matters to you. Thus that opinion should not be based off of what someone else says. Having someone choose your opinion for you gives you no voice jut a puppet to the system.


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Just finished The Witcher 3 last night. All I can say is, "More please."

 

I am going back and playing The Witcher and The Witcher 2 since I did not play either of those.

 

Once they are completed I am going to load up W3 again.

 

I will say this, I am missing my Gwent game already. Gosh that is addicting.

 

Oh and if any of you have time, I highly recommend watching AngryJoe's W3 review on YouTube - its hysterical.


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