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Conan the barbarian is also a favorite of mine
 
For the otaku's that do know the glory of Berserk, that's my all time favorite series (It is said that Darksouls was inspired by Berserk too)
 
Fun fact -- violence heavily outweighs sexual content in Murricaland's programming, tired of repeats? Your still seeing people die from combat in a series. If I were to equate the scene from TW3 with Conan the Barbarian, maybe I should consider any show with guns to Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto where killing is the main part of the content.


Perhaps they might be popular, but seeing as I do not play them any more than I do TW3, guessing I might miss these shows, too.

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Duncan recruits you because you have potential and yes some skill. You played a very different game from me, and I played it less than a month ago. I was also anything but badass with my standard iron sword fighting darkspawn in the tower.

You might hate being "shoehorned" into being a warden, but replay the origins, my character was barely an adult and this was his first real battle.

You and I will never agree, so it's best we not talk about it. Feel free to go fight the archdemon without levelling your characters, and if you win, we can talk about how the warden started off as a badass.

Yep at the end of the day of course the Warden is also the hero that saves the world (and if done well there is nothing wrong with it) but the path to being a hero feels earned contrary to the Inquisitor

The latter just gets a special mark and is suddenly the leader of the Inquisition

 

He/she gets all the resources at once, even after their first main base is destroyed they just go around for a few hours and find a new much better one that is a upgrade in every way possibly
Everyone kisses your ass from the start (minus the first few minutes), its just silly especially considering how much power the Inquisitor has after sooo little time

The Inquisition at the end of the game apparently has influence over entire countries and what not and I was just like : C'mon Really?

 

Compare that to the hardworking Warden who got a rather sad Origin story in most cases, then in Ostagar they got their asses kicked even harder

Its just you and Alistair from there on, it feels like the beginning of a hard Journey, you find more companions as time passes to join your cause and of course more allies through the Warden treaties

 

Compare again with the Inquisitor who just owns Cory at every turn without much resistance and the last battle just reflects this (lamest end mission ever), that why I felt no connection with my companions in DA:I, they were never needed the Inquisitor already had a big army

DA:I overall is an exaggerated power fantasy and a clear result from the whining of DA2 haters who wanted more "power" and control

 

God I miss DA:O, time to replay it again I guess
 


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That's what I personally love myself mate, it's somehow okay in Murrica for people to love gore and violence but not okay to like nudity. Strange isn't it?

Strange and silly
I don't get this fear of the human body, its childish to be ok with violence and murdering people (in games) and get crazy over nudity


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Seeing that most of you are a lot ahead in the game, don't you guys just love the dumb Rock Trolls? Especially the troll named Trololol? I mean he is just glorious and very hilarious! Always cracks me up!

 

 

So are the two intelligent trolls at Kaer Morhen!

 

 The part where he says "Thing three do. Sometime" is just plain funny! 


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It's actually funny and sweet, I try to stick to the "Sword as a last option" route for some scenarios and appreciate not killing every monster that moves.
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Strange and silly
I don't get this fear of the human body, its childish to be ok with violence and murdering people (in games) and get crazy over nudity


Perhaps it isn't fear, but respect for it that compels some Players to desire a 'less is more' attitude. But seeing as it has become as common in some games as fertilizer for a garden, some like the extra manure, while others prefer a rose even if it a single one.

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Perhaps it isn't fear, but respect for it that compels some Players to desire a 'less is more' attitude. But seeing as it has become as common in some games as fertilizer for a garden, some like the extra manure, while others prefer a rose even if it a single one.

 

Try growing that rose without manure ...



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Try growing that rose without manure ...


Actually, not a fan of either scent; both are somewhat repellent when overdone....

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Try growing that rose without manure ...

 

Lol, manure is not the only fertilizer in existence. And if a rose is planted on good soil, it doesn't need one anyway.

 

 

In any case - personally I don't mind nudity. I've seen my share of naked people just by attending drawing classes - and I've drawn them to excruciating detail, which further blunted me to discomfort I may feel while seeing someone naked.

With that said, I don't specifically need nudity, nor I think that it's super-necessary - or at least that explicit nudity is. Things can be done or composed in so many various ways, be it explicit or modest or tasteful. Sometimes stark, unabashed nudity is needed for getting something across - at times 'less is more' is a more appropriate (and even more sensuous) approach. I suppose variety and creativity is the key.


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Yeah of course, grunts. And the mabaris are puppies...And yes the Inuisitor can seal rifts but what does the help her/him when your grunts come running? It really doesn't take long for your warden to rise to the ranks of rather "special snowflake", maybe not entirely unique but very close to. And as for the mark and being uniqe, there surely are ways to get the mark from you, given time and research. However none of the people in charge surrounding you are ready to go that route. Speculation of course but there are always alternative ways.


I don't recall my warden rising up to anything until the end of the game. In fact not until Awakening where you become Warden Commander. The whole game she was just the same clueless and green recruit trying her hardest to combat the blight with a piece of paper that no one seems to want to honor until you complete those almost impossible missions for them first. My first pt, I've never felt so hopeless and alone. No ready hands like the advisors who just happened to be the left amd right hand of the Divine, and a Commander. And, no rise to power asap like the inquisitor at all. Not even close. The only thing that came close to someone of note who would have been willing to help you was Arl Eamon, and wadoyono,.... he also happened to be indisposed. Sometimes, I really wonder if you guys have played the game at all.

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I fail to see the logical reasoning of the first bold. It doesn't take your inquisitor long either for rising in the ranks, from convict to herald of Andraste, founding member to leader of a mega powerful faction itself.

 

Your warden is just one guy/gal, If you died, there would be other wardens ready to sacrifice themselves. We all saw the future that was in store for Thedas if the inquisitor fails. yes someone else theoretically can take their place, but they didn't. Considering Corypheous couldn't effectively combat the mark itself I'm going to maintain the inquisitor is snowflake level. Also considering that there weren't that many elf relics left that could bestow that very mark adds to how special your character is.

 

The mark does not make the inquisitor immortal. The inquisitor still has to prove her/his worth. The organisation isn't "mega powerful" until the inquisition makes it so. The PC is not rally founding member even. They let us in to the war table as counsel but until Skyhold Cassandra is more or less in charge. But yes, no one else has rhe mark, and it is special but this whole idea that the warden is just a random quy from the block is really stretching it. If your group got wiped out on the road Ferelden would be like the western approach.


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I don't recall my warden rising up to anything until the end of the game. The whole game she was just the same clueless and green recruit trying her hardest to combat the blight with a piece of paper that no one seems to want to honor until you complete those almost impossible missions for them first. My first pt, I've never felt so hopeless and alone. No ready hands like the advisors and rise to power asap like the inquisitor at all. Not even close. The only thing that came close to someone of note who would have been willing to help you was Arl Eamon, and wadoyono,.... he also happened to be indisposed. Sometimes, I really wonder if you guys have played the game at all.

 

After Ostagar you are the highest ranking warden i Ferelden. I have never deferred decisions to anybody else when I have played. Is the option to say "I don't know - you decide" really there the whole game through? You are the boss of that little organisation and through your leadership it grows until you have an army to beat blight. In principle no different from the inquisition. In DAI you have Skyhold and in DAO you have your camp and with the dlcs Soldiers peak,.



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After Ostagar you are the highest ranking warden i Ferelden. I have never deferred decisions to anybody else when I have played. Is the option to say "I don't know - you decide" really there the whole game through? You are the boss of that little organisation and through your leadership it grows until you have an army to beat blight. In principle no different from the inquisition. In DAI you have Skyhold and in DAO you have your camp and with the dlcs Soldiers peak,.

What does being the highest ranking warden in ferelden even mean?? Still that did not gave me ready imba military support on my back in fact the warden had 1. Thats Alistair who is just as green as the warden. And whatever support she had she had to move mountains to get them, with only 5 companions who is a witch, failed assassin, a lone qunari , old mage and a dog. So tell me, how is that the same as the inquisition.

Edit: if you have seen soldier's peak, you won't even be equating it to skyhold.
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Seeing that most of you are a lot ahead in the game, don't you guys just love the dumb Rock Trolls? Especially the troll named Trololol? I mean he is just glorious and very hilarious! Always cracks me up!

 

*snip*

 

Bart was my favourite troll. He was adorable.  :lol:

 

 

"...rocks interesting!" 


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What does being the highest ranking warden in ferelden even mean?? Still that did not gave me ready imba military support on my back in fact the warden had 1. Thats Alistair who is just as green as the warden. And whatever support she had she had to move mountains to get them, with only 5 companions who is a witch, failed assassin, a lone qunari , old mage and a dog. So tell me, how is that the same as the inquisition.

Edit: if you have seen soldier's peak, you won't even be equating it to skyhold.

 

Green? And the inquisitor doesn't have to move mountains to make it? They are not copies of each other but in principle they are the same. Start small, build army, save the world.

 

But I guess we will have ta agree to disagree.



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Bart was my favourite troll. He was adorable.  :lol:

 

"...rocks interesting!" 

My favorite troll is Wham-a-wham.

 

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Green? And the inquisitor doesn't have to move mountains to make it? They are not copies of each other but in principle they are the same. Start small, build army, save the world.

But I guess we will have ta agree to disagree.

And you know those armies that the Warden gathered is not his/hers to command til the end boss not like those joining the Inquisition? Those armies she gatheres won't eve bat an eye and help if Loghain would attack her in front of them. She has no power over them aside from directing them to the arch demon. She only really at the end of the day have her companions and a dog til the end. Yes green as in new and clueless.
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My favorite troll is Wham-a-wham.

 

Spoiler

 

I'm going to miss Witcherverse trolls.

 

They are the most adorable and hilarious monsters in any RPG, ever. 


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That's what I personally love myself mate, it's somehow okay in Murrica for people to love gore and violence but not okay to like nudity. Strange isn't it?


Hey, I am an American and I like both! :P

People always paint us with that brush and it's silly. People everywhere feel that way, I have it seen in this forum and others. Besides, we rarely ban games for violence or nudity, whereas lots of other countries ban or censor games for either or both.

Personally, I mind neither when it's appropriate for a scene and nudity has never crossed my eyes. I just don't like it when nudity and violence are used in place of good writing.

I would rather see nudity, tbh. My friends kid me a lot because I can watch B-movie slasher films and zombies tearing people apart all day, but I hate "torture" type movies like Saw and Hostel and refuse to watch them.
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I'm going to miss Witcherverse trolls.

 

They are the most adorable and hilarious monsters in any RPG, ever. 

 

I like the one that loved Geralt's "chicken" (oh, sorry, the 'eagle'.... which looks suspiciously like Polish coat of arms!) that he painted. It's also a very endearing moment for Geralt.

 

"Sure, random, rambling troll, I'll go for some paint and paint you this chicken...".


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I like the one that loved Geralt's "chicken" (oh, sorry, the 'eagle'.... which looks suspiciously like Polish coat of arms!) that he painted. It's also a very endearing moment for Geralt.

 

"Sure, random, rambling troll, I'll go for some paint and paint you this chicken...".

 

I always had Geralt go the diplomatic and non-violent route with trolls where possible, because they are almost always not true 'monsters' in how they interact with humans. The miners killed by trolls for example were in the wrong. They were trespassing and stealing, and had been warned first to get out. 


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I always had Geralt go the diplomatic and non-violent route with trolls where possible, because they are almost always not true 'monsters' in how they interact with humans. The miners killed by trolls for example were in the wrong. They were trespassing and stealing, and had been warned first to get out. 

 

I usually play Geralt like he's working for Wildlife... I mean, Magical Creature Preservation society. He'll kill those that are a threat or if it's simply necessary, but will go extra steps to preserve, rather than eradicate.


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I like the one that loved Geralt's "chicken" (oh, sorry, the 'eagle'.... which looks suspiciously like Polish coat of arms!) that he painted. It's also a very endearing moment for Geralt.

 

"Sure, random, rambling troll, I'll go for some paint and paint you this chicken...".

 

Just hanging around "Fort White Eagle" listening to him (her?) sing is a hoot.


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The mark does not make the inquisitor immortal. The inquisitor still has to prove her/his worth. The organisation isn't "mega powerful" until the inquisition makes it so. The PC is not rally founding member even. They let us in to the war table as counsel but until Skyhold Cassandra is more or less in charge. But yes, no one else has rhe mark, and it is special but this whole idea that the warden is just a random quy from the block is really stretching it. If your group got wiped out on the road Ferelden would be like the western approach.

To who? You're given the top assignments right off the bat and allowed to sit on the council, negotiating deals without anyone even knowing if you're capable of such.  Then you're made Inquisitor because hey "You were already doing the job."  And the road to "mega powerful" was an easy one with hardly a challenge. 

 

Meanwhile the Warden had assassins, Loghain, a landsmeet where they had to appeal to far more powerful individuals just to get anything done.  The only thing you had were the treaties and even then no one wanted to lift a finger for you unless they got something in return.


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To who? You're given the top assignments right off the bat and allowed to sit on the council, negotiating deals without anyone even knowing if you're capable of such.  Then you're made Inquisitor because hey "You were already doing the job."  And the road to "mega powerful" was an easy one with hardly a challenge. 
 
Meanwhile the Warden had assassins, Loghain, a landsmeet where they had to appeal to far more powerful individuals just to get anything done.  The only thing you had were the treaties and even then no one wanted to lift a finger for you unless they got something in return.


DAO has a couple of encounters with assassins; one leading to gaining a Companion, and the other to possibly secure their loyalty. DAI has Sera and her personal quests.

DAO has Loghain. DAI has the leader of the Mages or Templars (eg; Samson).

DAO has the Landsmeet. DAI has the Orlesian Grand Ball.

DAO has the Grey Warden treaties. DAI has the Mark. Both have little power until applied over time during the course of the game.

Enjoy both games; have no need to knock one of them to embrace the other.
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