DAI already did something better compared to MEA in my books; the choice of music. The cowboy music grrrr I just cant get it out of ma head, it kills the ME theme ...
I wouldn't worry about that. They just included it to emphasize the wild-frontier angle they're going for through a teaser. The actual score will stick to Mass Effect's signature sound.
That is why I have a lot of problem with it. The choice of music and the N7 armor design which clearly show a hint of cowboy scarf.... then they show the "Western Approach"? Cowboy vs Aliens? Right.... "This is the story of the USS Texas. Its mission, to colonize new world, to discover new aliens and to bang that which has never been banged before".....
If there ever is a teaser that made me think of not buying something that I have already decided to buy, it is this MEA's teaser.
Not to mention the leaked scripts - To find hidden vaults of an ancient civilization. That music, that desert, that jet pack and VAULTS!? Vault hunting? Vault hunters?? Borderlands anyone? Borderlands cross Titanfall/Advanced Warfare.
DAI's teaser and trailer made me want to buy the game... MEA's teaser? Pure PTSD after watching it.
Cowboys vs Aliens? I think the more obvious inspiration here is "Firefly", which - I'd like to add - is a TV series that was very well-liked among critics and viewers. In fact, it now has a cult status.
Cowboys and Aliens? I think the more obvious inspiration here is "Firefly", which - I'd like to add - is a TV series that was very well-liked among critics and viewers. In fact, it now has a cult status.
It's still far more fitting than Marilyn Manson for Origins. I think folks that saw the E3 trailer haven't seen that entry into the "Trying too Sodding Hard" club. I liked the ME trailer myself. <shrug>
Oh and I agree with you. 
It's still far more fitting than Marilyn Manson for Origins. I think folks that saw the E3 trailer haven't seen that entry into the "Trying too Sodding Hard" club. I liked the ME trailer myself. <shrug>
Loved DAO, cringed at that commercial.
Loved DAO, cringed at that commercial.
I couldn't stop laughing when someone sent me that commercial. I own Holywood and considering the song is all about making fun of "harcore" and "edgy" products (like TV shows, games and music,) it was bad. EA not only decided to use Marilyn Manson for a sword n sorcery fantasy game, but used a song that is all about making fun of people trying to be edgy.
This is how I felt about EA using that song:
A little Johnny Cash worked for me. There's a theme there and at least this was the E3 trailer. I doubt that they are going to use that same song for the ads.
I'd argue if anything the origin story makes them 'the badass'. Nice condescending tone there too.
Grey wardens were mass recruiting anyone with a decent set of skills as the blight was just upon them too. Duncan happened to be a senior grey warden but others were conscripting prisoners and exiles as well, last resorters. It wasn't just "Your guy is a special snowflake", they were usually in undesirable circumstances and Duncan just happened to be the one to conscript you because he was in the right place at the right time.
It's actually quite uneven.
Warden mage is just fresh out of being a novice. City elf has some decent skills - enough to slaughter his way through a castle full of armed guards, but mostly fighting 1-2 at a time. Dalish elf is pretty much just an average-skilled hunter, with some small experience in killing Darkspawn. Dwarf Noble is one of the best dwarven fighters (he wins the Proving immediately, and slaughters his way through a horde of Darkspawn). Dwarf commoner is almost as skilled as dwarf noble - he wins the Proving and carves his way through a Carta prison. Human noble is average skilled, he kills some Howe's soldiers alongside his mother, mostly fighting 1-2 at a time.
It's actually quite uneven.
Warden mage is just fresh out of being a novice. City elf has some decent skills - enough to slaughter his way through a castle full of armed guards, but mostly fighting 1-2 at a time. Dalish elf is pretty much just an average-skilled hunter, with some small experience in killing Darkspawn. Dwarf Noble is one of the best dwarven fighters (he wins the Proving immediately, and slaughters his way through a horde of Darkspawn). Dwarf commoner is almost as skilled as dwarf noble - he wins the Proving and carves his way through a Carta prison. Human noble is average skilled, he kills some Howe's soldiers alongside his mother, mostly fighting 1-2 at a time.
Not to mention at the start of your adventure in Inquisition you have a similar comparison between number of things fighting you. 1-2 at a time, but for some reason each race and err, mage, seemed capable of fighting off demons. I don't know which one is stronger but my point was that while the warden becomes the special catalyst over time to deal with the dark spawn threat, he/she didn't have the special power that none other could obtain at the time.
Not to mention at the start of your adventure in Inquisition you have a similar comparison between number of things fighting you. 1-2 at a time, but for some reason each race and err, mage, seemed capable of fighting off demons. I don't know which one is stronger but my point was that while the warden becomes the special catalyst over time to deal with the dark spawn threat, he/she didn't have the special power that none other could obtain at the time.
What's so surprising at being able to fight off demons, when all the in-fighting between humans certainly attracted demons to Thedas even before the Breach was open? You'd think that people - at the very least - valued being able to take care of themselves after events of the Blight and subsequent chaos. In that regard the Warden candidate is almost a "sweet summer child", who lived in a relatively stable world, at least compared to what happened later.
Context! It matters.
In any case, we have an undercover god and a power-house that is Cassandra protecting our protagonist all the way. Plus, the mark was killing the PC at the time and seems to do little else other than manipulating rifts, at least initially. It's not a special "win" button at any circumstances the Herald can find himself/herself in.
What's so surprising at being able to fight off demons, when all the in-fighting between humans certainly attracted demons to Thedas even before the Breach was open? You'd think that people - at the very least - valued being able to take care of themselves after events of the Blight and subsequent chaos. In that regard the Warden candidate is almost a "sweet summer child", who lived in a relatively stable world, at least compared to what happened later.
Context! It matters.
In any case, we have an undercover god and a power-house that is Cassandra protecting our protagonist all the way. Plus, the mark was killing the PC at the time and seems to do little else other than manipulating rifts, at least initially. It's not a special "win" button at any circumstances the Herald can find himself/herself in.
My point was that they were equal in terms of challenge. Yes you had an undercover god and Cassandra but you were fighting demons so wouldn't that make it fairly even? You fight 1-2 bandits / blades for hire as a human noble.. Fairly weak enemies in 1-2's.
My point remains that you are the only one with the mark and that makes it more snowflakey than the warden since there are many wardens.
DAI already did something better compared to MEA in my books; the choice of music. The cowboy music grrrr I just cant get it out of ma head, it kills the ME theme ...
My point was that they were equal in terms of challenge. Yes you had an undercover god and Cassandra but you were fighting demons so wouldn't that make it fairly even? You fight 1-2 bandits / blades for hire as a human noble.. Fairly weak enemies in 1-2's.
My point remains that you are the only one with the mark and that makes it more snowflakey than the warden since there are many wardens.
I'm not sure I get why this point is made, considering that the entire plot has been written around the fact that Inquisitor HAS this unique power and that pretty much forces them into the role of the savior, whether they like it or not.
My point is, however, that the character itself is not a special snowflake per se - they're reasonably capable (with any other lingering potential left in hands of the player) and that's about it, as far as we know.
They also don't acquire the Anchor through power of convenience or some sort of ancient prophesy, or immediately figure out what it is... or how they can solve every problem Thedas has or might have with it - they stumble upon it and in the end they don't know what it really is or what it can do, aside from what was established. We know that it was killing them when they first got it and we're not yet sure how having an Anchor is going to end for them - aside from the fact that it probably means more trouble.
and we're not yet sure how having an Anchor is going to end for them - aside from the fact that it probably means more trouble.
Or bizarre sexual experimentations with the Anchor.
Or bizarre sexual experimentations with the Anchor.
How would that work? 
edit: Yeah, on a second though I'm not going anywhere with it >_>'''
DAI already did something better compared to MEA in my books; the choice of music. The cowboy music grrrr I just cant get it out of ma head, it kills the ME theme ...
The fact that so many people are talking about the use of Johnny Cash screams that it worked, I swear BSN doesn't understand how teasers work or that Johnny Cash transcends music genres. Even more concerning is that a lot of people don't know who he is. 
The fact that so many people are talking about the use of Johnny Cash screams that it worked, I swear BSN doesn't understand how teasers work or that Johnny Cash transcends music genres. Even more concerning is that a lot of people don't know who he is.
Meh, Johnny Cash is hella overrated. I mean, sure, he's not Bob Dylan overrated, but he's overrated nontheless. Plus he ruined an awesome Soundgarden song.
Meh, Johnny Cash is hella overrated. I mean, sure, he's not Bob Dylan overrated, but he's overrated nontheless. Plus he ruined an awesome Soundgarden song.
To be fair, he also measurably improved an already terrific NIN song.
Lol yeah the that music....gawd. Maybe it's just a generation gap for me because it was really awful. I mean the DAO's marilyn manson did not hit me much because of the awsome fight animation in the background, but that music and space exploration, I just can't get my head around it.
It's interesting that maybe the generational gap could explain the difference. I think Manson's track for DA:O was equally bad; the difference was that by that point I knew a lot about DA:O and it was late in release, so it was more of a funny and incomprehensible marketing decision than an introduction to the product.
Strangely, when it come to science fiction, I'm oddly okay with something like country music being for trailers.
I thought the country music served more to introduce the unknown character than the game itself. The way the music changes when he turns around, I thought the guy was actually listening to it, as opposed to it just being background for the trailer. Maybe that guy is just a wild west fan.
How would that work?
edit: Yeah, on a second though I'm not going anywhere with it >_>'''
"Once more into the breach!"
How would that work?
edit: Yeah, on a second though I'm not going anywhere with it >_>'''
I thought the country music served more to introduce the unknown character than the game itself. The way the music changes when he turns around, I thought the guy was actually listening to it, as opposed to it just being background for the trailer. Maybe that guy is just a wild west fan.
See rawrgrims post, also I'm sure ironbull is trying to get the inquisitor to do something kinky with that ability. "I can take it. cmon!"
*Inquisitor summons demons*
"Katoh! KATOH!"
It's interesting that maybe the generational gap could explain the difference. I think Manson's track for DA:O was equally bad; the difference was that by that point I knew a lot about DA:O and it was late in release, so it was more of a funny and incomprehensible marketing decision than an introduction to the product.
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