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[iorveth1271]

If the future DA games take the same BS approach to established lore regarding main plot and story import as TW3 did, I would beg BW never to do ANYTHING like what CDPR did. At least in DA thus far you can feel/notice, in small ways, the decisions you made in previous games. TW3 outright dumped almost the entirety of its prequels' story-relevant decisions, rendering any playthrough of TW1 or 2 pointless in the process.

[Tonio545]

Least i got the blue stripes tattoo thats all that matters . Dont spoil me, but as far as i know certain main characters from witcher 2 return at least, and they have varying survival. Or do they return regardless?. There was a post on the main cdpr forum from a dev while people were complaining about imports and stuff. He said it came up alot during development and just not having enough resources to do everything they wanted, maybe maybe not changing in the future (enhanced edition).

[panzerwzh]

In CDPR we trust!

[TheOgre]

 

Pretty much sums up the difference between TW3 and DAI.

There are tons of basic things (e.g. decent plot/dialogue writing, character interation and expression, play chioce development etc.) Bioware needs to learn from CDPR.

0:20-54 - kinda goes over how tw3 satisfied his desire for an rpg entirely

thoughts:

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Kind of hard to satisfy everything and I like some features from DAI that I wished were in TW3 like the inventory system isn't impacted by craft materials.. ugh, tw3 I wish crafting materials weren't limited by space)

 

:54-2:11 [His thoughts]

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Goes on a bit about how DAI and the consequences of trying to please everyone. I warn that this section is very heavy with either hyperbole or possibly offensive material toward fans of DAI. Hint, the P.C. term came up

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Personal thoughts:

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I do personally believe a lot of content wasn't brought to the game out of fear of angering the wrong crowd. The game felt to me like they were trying to be more inclusive to other groups, which is good in my opinion. I'm not satisfied with the content but at someone in the industry is at least trying to appeal to other fan groups. But they did so in a way that limited angering anyone so the content came off as rather unoffensive and not very convincing for me)

 

2:03-5:40 [his observation]

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He talks a bit about oppression in both games, mostly the difference between DAI and TW3. TW3 you have side quests that go beyond just "get 10 rams meat" "Oh thanks" here's your exp you move on, you don't get to see the result of your actions so much in DAI. TW3, he cites a quest about finding an old ladies cookware. She goes on to tell you why it's important to her, and how the man that has the cookware won't give it back to her. A bit of a spoiler, turns out he had been garroted by someone skillfully trained, presumed to be someone of uncanny skill. It turns out the man was using the cookware for scraping off some lead to create ink because hes possibly a spy for a foreign land. Tl;dr, you are exposed to a variety of things, a mundane quest that actually provides insight into the conflict going on around the land and overall universe

My thoughts:

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Okay, I agree mostly but I will offer this. In the hinterlands they devoted a lot of time here it seems, a lot more so than a majority of the other zones in both quests and detail. DAI does try to do this but in a very loose way. Blood brothers in the Hinterlands for example. If you find a note in a shack it's a letter left for his brother that is an 'apostate' or an escaped mage, the father is dead and the son took his sword, challenging his brother to come north to settle things once and for all. You get there to find a dead body, a mercenary, and a mage nearby presumably to be the brother of the mercenary. So you are exposed to a bit of the Mage/Templar example and it does show that even if you are blood related, hatred for mages is there. It does have a miniature quest chain to this quest as well because it starts something called "Business Arrangements" Where you find out a 'sister' is dealing with the Templars. The controversy is that she is supposed to be neutral while inside Redcliffe which is occupied by mages. But it's done in such a loose quick way it's really hard to compare it to the style of Witcher 3's sidequests in general.

 

5:40-6:10

[a rant from him]

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Kind of says that it's mediocre, dragon age is rather.

[my comment]

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It obviously did not beat my experience with DA2, I loved DA2. It also failed to meet my expectations as I was looking for something closer toward a DAO experience but it didn't happen. That said, I still had some fun with the game, it was decent, not mediocre. It just wasn't what I was hoping for entirely.

 

6:11-12:22

[Talks about the overall setting of DAI, supposed to be a dark world with oppression, racism, and lgbt issues] 

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Talks about DAO and DA2 where elves were more visibly oppressed, and mages as well. He essentially says that you have to take them at their word whenever oppression happens because we cannot actually see it. For example, the Dalish elves tell you that the humans are mean and hunt their mounts for sport. Well.. "Shouldn't they be more angry?" He talks about how as a human, they should be telling him to get the heck out of their camp, instead of just being wary of his kind. He proceeds to provide an example from TW3 that establishes the 'real racism' argument. Talking about the dwarf that had his weapon shop burned down by humans because he smithed a few weapons for the enemy army that occupied the town. He lived there for quite a long time and supplied the humans with tools of their own and service, and was a part of their community. The second he had smithed a weapon, WHILE not being paid for this service, for the enemy army, he was no longer a member of the community but a dwarf traitor. This probably wouldn't have happened if he were a human smith. Some commented against his character because, "he's other" "always known something was off about that man because he's not one of us". People who are genuinely racist use justifications to make themselves feel better about their actions.

 

Ends this segment by saying TW3 actually tells AND shows the part. They make you care by making someone uncomfortable by it. he argues that DAI should have done that for making people care about LGBT issues. You need to make people feel uncomfortable about the horrendous actions taken against gays (I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN THE COMMENT BELOW don't.. bite my head off yet..). He then talks about how they did that in TW3 by an encounter with a hunter out in the wilderness. If Geralt presses the hunter on why he lives way out there away from civilization, he explains that the land he came from fell into chaos because he fell in love with the lord of the lands son. When it was exposed that the two were in love with each other, it became such a big deal that the son of the lord killed himself, and now his father drinks himself nearly to death. The land fell into chaos just because he fell in love with a man. he went on to say that it didn't just make him go, "well that sucks", it instead made him actually feel weighted by that. he wasn't able to freely express his love, people were so affected by this that people are dying over this issue, starvation/poverty ect ct.. 

[Comments from me]

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The first part, I have to agree almost entirely with his examples and points. It felt rather toned down. The most awkward experience I had dealing with the Daelish elves or the servant elves at Winter Palace was a caution or aversion. It wasn't very convincing for me as a player. I felt more uncomfortable in DAO and in DA2 when dealing with human/elf relations. When I heard about how they burned down the Dwarves shop, and actually went out of their way to justify their actions, I felt rather angry for that dwarf. Humans are capable of being a real a hole and we should be able to see it. They actually burn sorcerers and witches at the stake in tw3. The Rite of Tranquility I will argue is almost as screwed up as burning people at a stake, and you can actually make someone tranquil in DAI through a judgment quest, but you never see it happen.

 

The second part, I will argue you do see a situation with Dorian where you find out his father tried to force his son to be straight through blood magic. In Tevinter you are expected at the higher tiers to procreate and merge bloodlines to secure your heritage. The issue here is that Dorian had no such interest in playing politics and wanted to live life free of being married to some woman he didn't care about in that way. While you weren't immediately exposed to the prejudice Dorian faced in Tevinter, you were exposed to a scene where he confronted his own father to call him out on that. I personally felt pretty heavy watching that. I wanted the two to reconcile, but I doubted it ever would be. The father was genuinely apologetic for his behavior, and Dorian wasn't having it. I was invested in that scene and uncomfortable. There's also Krem, but I honestly wasn't so invested in his scene as I didn't see the brutality he faced. It was just a "shame on you for asking" from Iron Bull. I haven't experienced the conversation with the hunter but I look forward to it. I will say from the sounds of it, they know how to get you invested in the grittiness of TW3

 

12:22-13:40[ Kind of rants a bit about morality scales in bioware games until he gets to a new point ]

[My thoughts:]: Irrelevant 

 

13:40- 16:43

[His take on morality based quests in both DAI and TW3]:

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Talks about a quest involving coming across a herbalist that is trying to gather medicine to help a woman that went out to see her lover and got her skull cracked. There's almost nothing that the herbalist can do as the woman will die with their kind of medication. Geralt has an option to brew a mutagen that MIGHT help the dying woman survive, but if it doesn't save her which is a high chance, she will die a very painful death. You try to help, not knowing whether it will make things worse, or leave her to a certain death. You won't know immediately the result of this quest as it could take several days to get the result but the npc thanks you genuinely for trying to help, at least you tried to give her a chance. This 'compels' a player to give an emotional response.

 

He said after that, he could picture this exact same quest, and other quests in a Bioware game where you will ultimate save people and never have to wonder if you are truly helping someone or not. The good guy will make the potion, the bad guy is too lazy to make the potion'. Black and white, no human drama. Further comments by saying they played for the human drama element in the older bioware games.

[My comments on this segment] 

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I agree that TW3 nails it with the morally ambiguous quests but I personally am on the fence about black and white quests with Bioware titles as of recent. I remember specifically a quest with Garrus in ME1 where you have the ability to execute a potentially dangerous entity called Doctor Death or whatever who's a monster. The thing is, he acts like he's completely not knowing of what Garrus is even talking about when you confront him. I personally was confused as to whether I should let Garrus kill him or we let him go. I'm actually at this point going to ask you guys to come up with a DAI comparison here if you have one. I don't want to blindly agree as I am personally not sure if this is accurate to say.

 

Plus the comment earlier about betraying the older fanbase kind of grates at me as Realmz did point out some of the older playerbase really likes DAI's direction.. Even if I'm not on board with that direction.

 

16:43-19:11

[Talks about why he doesn't play many games anymore, claims of watering down story for fear of offending anyone]

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Goes on to say that since CDPR isn't the ticket holder, they don't have to worry about offending people in general. They can write what they write. Talks about Bioware's current route taken, doesn't know if they are capable of writing truly engaging characters anymore. He uses Dorian as an example (which.. I'm going to rant about in a comment below). His thoughts was that Dorian was an amazing character and what he stood for. Trying to represent Tevinter, Demonstrate that a tevinter stood against Corypheous, and talks about how he wants to free the people from the oppressive Mages of his culture. Then he talks about the 'high point' of his story being, he wants YOU to talk to his dad about his sexuality. At the end of the day he wants the big bad inquisitor to talk to his dad for him, solving an identity crisis. 

[My thoughts]

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I do agree that since Bioware is a big name, and EA is a big publishing company they do come under a higher scrutiny for the content they release. But I genuinely believe the Bioware wants to write what they want, at least most of the time. I am not happy that they removed the twist to the Envy demon scene as it was considered potentially offensive to all the wrong people. Eh..

 

But the argument about truly engaging characters being nonexistent from Bioware's recent games is absolute horse--something. Dorian was a fantastic character ALL THE WAY THROUGH! I am not attracted to males, and I can proudly say that I'd gladly hang out with that kind of guy as a friend. His views are to my liking. His views on Southern Thedas and how they rule their people? I agree to said views. The part that really turned me away from this rant and made me cringe a bit was the part about talking to his dad. You had a chance to see a glimmer of a softer side to this otherwise bold character. He had a soft spot, and didn't want to talk to his dad himself. I just remembered too, he didn't know his dad would even be there by the way. he thought it was a trap to kidnap him back to Tevinter. So you can see why I am not a fan of that section. They can write engaging characters, it's really just their main story lines and side quest content that I'm really having issues with... along with the combat direction.. And the offensive material being limited.. and the well, other stuff I'm going to leave out.

 

19:11- 20:34: [His last segment talks about DAI having a political message in every zone, no real oppression, tell not show]

 

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It's as it says above. He argues that there's nothing really there to care about. Believes that Bioware's writing should try to do what Witcher does. Because it's so brutal you actually want to help people or become invested in it.

 

[my thoughts]

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I agree about there being a political message behind DAI. I don't personally see as much oppression toward the Mages in particular, or against the Elves for that matter. I see maybe a class issue but that's it. There is a sort of grim I can say though for certain, Emprise Du Leon the red templars force the villagers to work with Red Lirium, and there are people dying from being exposed to the lirium. It's truly horrifying. 

 

That is why I'm more likely to say that Bioware's writers DO have it in them to capture the grim setting. It just wasn't really evident for me on an overall level going through DAI.

 

I wouldn't say copy Witcher outright. I'd say try to get back to what you did well back with DAO, and put emphasis on moral grey and creepy situations. Try not to be too inclusive to the point where that's all the game is. Focus on mechanics, and main story/side quests. I was invested in DAI at times, but not often.

 

GOD that took forever.

[Torgette]

Well...

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I agree with you on that front. Those two were wretched human beings. I remember telling the baron they deserved each other. I felt sorry for them in the respect that they had to live with themselves.

 

Cool that one little quest can get so many different points of view though, one thing I really liked about certain Mass Effect side quests like Overlord.

[London]

Well... I kind of just lost all my interest in my Witcher 3 play through. The same thing happened to me in Witcher 2 also, which I paid full price for as well. If only I waited for the $3 steam sale.

When I bought Witcher 2, I had a computer that couldn't run it very well so I uninstalled it. After buying my new system with 2 980s installed it it, I tried again. I really enjoyed the atmosphere in Flotsam and the story there. But...I just tolerated the controls. When I got to Chapter 2, I wasn't enjoying the atmosphere or the controls, so I uninstalled it again. I do think Chapter 1 was great, but then my interest vanished.

The reviews from this site coupled with the amazing trailer where Geralt battles a female monster, encouraged me to pick up the game. Since a lot of people said it was great even if they hated 1 and 2, I figured why not. I finished the intro area and just got to play as Ciri in a flashback after meeting Baron. Ciri was such a like able character, I wish she was the star with 5 minutes of Geralt here and there - this would have been far more fascinating. Anyway when I was forced back to Geralt I just saved my game and realized that I have been forcing myself to play this as there must be something wrong with me for not liking this...

Some thoughts before I uninstall, and admit that I should cut my losses at the $120 and about 15 hours each game in this franchise:

1. This game is a chore to play. Playing this game actually annoys me. The horse riding is terrible. The fights are awkward. Trying to find the right camera angle to loot a bookshelf makes me eventually just move on when I can't find it. Running over a flower I'm trying to harvest and having to go back and forth until I'm at an angle to pick it up is annoying. It's just not fun.

2. I just can't get into being Geralt. Especially after they teased me with the superior Ciri. I may try this franchise again if she gets her own game.

3. I miss having companions. I think Witcher 2 - Flotsam worked for me as you had your "party" to talk to at the Inn, and each party member came with me on a mission or two even if the game was mostly solo. Witcher 3 is a lonely experience. The most I can hope for so far is following an NPC for a quest. Geralt seems lonely too - he talks to himself an awful lot. I guess I took the hours and hours I could hang around Skyhold talking to people for granted.

4. The crafting system is just WTF. I must have looted 1000 things which all take up carrying weight with no clue what to keep or get rid of. Just way too much junk.

5. I don't care all that much about anyone and it's been 15 hours. I hoped to force myself to play until I get to Triss, who is my favorite aside from Ciri, but I just can't do it as I have no idea how long that would be. I didn't feel like playing through Baron so I just watched it on YouTube since everyone mentions that it's one of the stronger quests - still can't care as much as I should. Maybe because the Baron is just an impediment to moving ahead in the story and isn't a character to get attached to.

6. The world is just okay to me. The settlements aren't interesting - they are just houses to loot from, maybe a merchant and a quest board, and maybe a couple NPCs with dialogue. I thought the town near Baron would have been good buts it's no better than the villages I ran through to get there. I opened up my map of Velen, saw how large it was and was actually sad. All I saw was maybe 50 hours of galloping on that horrible horse to reach ?s.

7. The world kills roleplay and immersion. This is extra noticeable since I'm on a skyrim kick. I can't put myself in Geralts shoes because I spent most of my time looking at the map to find ?s. During his search for Ciri, I would imagine that Geralt would not be diving in the middle of the lake to find treasure, or running to the middle of nowhere to clear a nest. This is a pacing problem that DAI had as well, but DAI didn't frustrate me with the controls while doing it. Also the maps weren't as large...I just don't look forward to finding 50 ?s and spending the hours to do it.

There were things I did like - the music, the graphics were decent in 4k though the trees seemed short. I can tell this is a grittier environment and they show more than tell. But it's just not enough to overcome the feeling that it's a chore to play, and that I would rather be playing something else. I just don't have enough free time to force it. I do hope DAI learns from the quest design though.

I can see why people love this, but it's not for me.

[KBomb]

Well... I kind of just lost all my interest in my Witcher 3 play through. The same thing happened to me in Witcher 2 also, which I paid full price for as well. If only I waited for the $3 steam sale.

When I bought Witcher 2, I had a computer that couldn't run it very well so I uninstalled it. After buying my new system with 2 980s installed it it, I tried again. I really enjoyed the atmosphere in Flotsam and the story there. But...I just tolerated the controls. When I got to Chapter 2, I wasn't enjoying the atmosphere or the controls, so I uninstalled it again. I do think Chapter 1 was great, but then my interest vanished.

The reviews from this site coupled with the amazing trailer where Geralt battles a female monster, encouraged me to pick up the game. Since a lot of people said it was great even if they hated 1 and 2, I figured why not. I finished the intro area and just got to play as Ciri in a flashback after meeting Baron. Ciri was such a like able character, I wish she was the star with 5 minutes of Geralt here and there - this would have been far more fascinating. Anyway when I was forced back to Geralt I just saved my game and realized that I have been forcing myself to play this as there must be something wrong with me for not liking this...

Some thoughts before I uninstall, and admit that I should cut my losses at the $120 and about 15 hours each game in this franchise:

1. This game is a chore to play. Playing this game actually annoys me. The horse riding is terrible. The fights are awkward. Trying to find the right camera angle to loot a bookshelf makes me eventually just move on when I can't find it. Running over a flower I'm trying to harvest and having to go back and forth until I'm at an angle to pick it up is annoying. It's just not fun.

2. I just can't get into being Geralt. Especially after they teased me with the superior Ciri. I may try this franchise again if she gets her own game.

3. I miss having companions. I think Witcher 2 - Flotsam worked for me as you had your "party" to talk to at the Inn, and each party member came with me on a mission or two even if the game was mostly solo. Witcher 3 is a lonely experience. The most I can hope for so far is following an NPC for a quest. Geralt seems lonely too - he talks to himself an awful lot. I guess I took the hours and hours I could hang around Skyhold talking to people for granted.

4. The crafting system is just WTF. I must have looted 1000 things which all take up carrying weight with no clue what to keep or get rid of. Just way too much junk.

5. I don't care all that much about anyone and it's been 15 hours. I hoped to force myself to play until I get to Triss, who is my favorite aside from Ciri, but I just can't do it as I have no idea how long that would be. I didn't feel like playing through Baron so I just watched it on YouTube since everyone mentions that it's one of the stronger quests - still can't care as much as I should. Maybe because the Baron is just an impediment to moving ahead in the story and isn't a character to get attached to.

6. The world is just okay to me. The settlements aren't interesting - they are just houses to loot from, maybe a merchant and a quest board, and maybe a couple NPCs with dialogue. I thought the town near Baron would have been good buts it's no better than the villages I ran through to get there. I opened up my map of Velen, saw how large it was and was actually sad. All I saw was maybe 50 hours of galloping on that horrible horse to reach ?s.

7. The world kills roleplay and immersion. This is extra noticeable since I'm on a skyrim kick. I can't put myself in Geralts shoes because I spent most of my time looking at the map to find ?s. During his search for Ciri, I would imagine that Geralt would not be diving in the middle of the lake to find treasure, or running to the middle of nowhere to clear a nest. This is a pacing problem that DAI had as well, but DAI didn't frustrate me with the controls while doing it. Also the maps weren't as large...I just don't look forward to finding 50 ?s and spending the hours to do it.

There were things I did like - the music, the graphics were decent in 4k though the trees seemed short. I can tell this is a grittier environment and they show more than tell. But it's just not enough to overcome the feeling that it's a chore to play, and that I would rather be playing something else. I just don't have enough free time to force it. I do hope DAI learns from the quest design though.

I can see why people love this, but it's not for me.

Well, I am sorry you didn't like the game and you shouldn't feel bad for not liking it. No one game is for everybody and you should play games that brings you enjoyment and entertainment value.

Even if I disagree with your review, I am glad you gave it a try before forming your opinion and I can appreciate that.

I am just happy that there are rpg's to choose from and hopefully more to come!

[TheOgre]

@london -- I liked your post because as Kbomb pointed out, you actually gave it a try. I wish you had a better time with the game. I will agree mostly with the inventory being a cluster.. I don't like it in 1 and I don't like it in 3. That said, you gave an honest feedback.

[Eelectrica]

Just finished the game on blood and bones difficulty and all I can say is wow, just wow.

Amazing adventure from start to finish. I loved how dynamic the story felt.

Even in the latest Free DLC mission 'Skellege's Most wanted, just awesome how decisions made earlier in the game impacted that little quest.

Things like that and other little things made the world feel alive.

 

The visuals were OK, they did the job. After being blown away with Witcher 2 the Red engine has been surpassed a little, but the dynamic weather, night and day cycles etc. were all welcome though. Pity they couldn't keep the graphics as awesome as in the early demos. But I recall reading that some of those things brought top end machines with dual Titans to their knees so they probably had to do something.

 

Still have a lot of ?'s I didn't bother with in the end, around 50 or so in Skellige, but no real point to getting all of them. Missed a few treasure hunts, but my play style was more towards the Cat school gear which I maxed out. No point in grabbing other schematics when I'm not going to use them anyway.

 

The inventory is a valid complaint, I think PoE actually did that quite well with the unlimited storage bag. Hopefully the next patch brings back storage of some kind. The first games used the innkeepers as storage which worked quite well. And no I don't care that if I drop gear off with an innkeeper in Velen, I can collect it from an innkeeper in Skellige! Some might say that breaks immersion, but there are times when 'realism' needs to take a back seat for game play reasons. This is one of them. Storage allows us to remove the clutter from the inventory, but it's not lost when we need something for crafting or whatever.

[Eelectrica]

If the future DA games take the same BS approach to established lore regarding main plot and story import as TW3 did, I would beg BW never to do ANYTHING like what CDPR did. At least in DA thus far you can feel/notice, in small ways, the decisions you made in previous games. TW3 outright dumped almost the entirety of its prequels' story-relevant decisions, rendering any playthrough of TW1 or 2 pointless in the process.

I'd prefer the opposite actually. Retcon stuff if it gets in the way of the story. That gives them more freedom to do the Choice and Consequence in a given game if they're not locked into every litte thing we as a player do.

Granted the Iorveth path in Witcher 2 was made redundant in Witcher 3, still I'd prefer to have that option to take the route in Witcher 2.

[panzerwzh]

I'd prefer the opposite actually. Retcon stuff if it gets in the way of the story. That gives them more freedom to do the Choice and Consequence in a given game if they're not locked into every litte thing we as a player do.

Granted the Iorveth path in Witcher 2 was made redundant in Witcher 3, still I'd prefer to have that option to take the route in Witcher 2.

Don't rule out Iorveth yet, there are still 2 expansion pack (not DLC) coming.

[KBomb]

Just finished the game on blood and bones difficulty and all I can say is wow, just wow.
Amazing adventure from start to finish. I loved how dynamic the story felt.
Even in the latest Free DLC mission 'Skellege's Most wanted, just awesome how decisions made earlier in the game impacted that little quest.
Things like that and other little things made the world feel alive.

The visuals were OK, they did the job. After being blown away with Witcher 2 the Red engine has been surpassed a little, but the dynamic weather, night and day cycles etc. were all welcome though. Pity they couldn't keep the graphics as awesome as in the early demos. But I recall reading that some of those things brought top end machines with dual Titans to their knees so they probably had to do something.

Still have a lot of ?'s I didn't bother with in the end, around 50 or so in Skellige, but no real point to getting all of them. Missed a few treasure hunts, but my play style was more towards the Cat school gear which I maxed out. No point in grabbing other schematics when I'm not going to use them anyway.

The inventory is a valid complaint, I think PoE actually did that quite well with the unlimited storage bag. Hopefully the next patch brings back storage of some kind. The first games used the innkeepers as storage which worked quite well. And no I don't care that if I drop gear off with an innkeeper in Velen, I can collect it from an innkeeper in Skellige! Some might say that breaks immersion, but there are times when 'realism' needs to take a back seat for game play reasons. This is one of them. Storage allows us to remove the clutter from the inventory, but it's not lost when we need something for crafting or whatever.

I heard(thanks to Deathstruck) that the next update will include a storage chest. So that problem will be solved.

[correctamundo]

Well... I kind of just lost all my interest in my Witcher 3 play through. The same thing happened to me in Witcher 2 also, which I paid full price for as well. If only I waited for the $3 steam sale.

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I can see why people love this, but it's not for me.

 

Just some thoughts. Of course every game isn't for everyone =).

 

I liked the baron quest but didn't get into it as much as many others. Seeing all the destruction when I finished that part of the game I can only conclude that I falied miserably.

 

My favorite part of Velen was dungeon crawling with Keira Metz. Did you do that? I have also found (for me that is) trying to catch all the !s and ?s gets you overleveled so I see it more like a smörgåsbord to pick and choose. I have however got stuck a little on Skellige because of the overleveled situation. There are some quests that I feel I really should do (and from a little wiki search to discern whether they are important (which they seem to be)) for which I am now 5-6 six levels above it feels...like it is gonna be more of chore. I am however just in spot on level for the next main quest.

 

And Roach of course. It took a while but I have finally understood how to control the horse properly and now it works like a charm. The same goes for mounts in DAI. It took a while but now that I know how to use the efficiently they really do speed up travel when it is just about the destination and not the journey.

[correctamundo]

I heard(thanks to Deathstruck) that the next update will include a storage chest. So that problem will be solved.

 

That will be nice but I am afraid I will do like in Skyrim where convenient horses give you almost infinite storage. It takes fooooooooooooooreeeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeer to scroll through the saddle bags .-D

[blahblahblah]

Don't rule out Iorveth yet, there are still 2 expansion pack (not DLC) coming.

Meh.

[Eelectrica]

Don't rule out Iorveth yet, there are still 2 expansion pack (not DLC) coming.

I'm looking forward to the expansion packs. I'll start my second playthrough 2 or maybe 3 weeks before the first one drops.

By then the free DLC will have all been released as well. Which they are still working on. I read with interest that the next one will require the latest patch to play. Which shows they are still developing them.

[panzerwzh]

I'm looking forward to the expansion packs. I'll start my second playthrough 2 or maybe 3 weeks before the first one drops.

By then the free DLC will have all been released as well. Which they are still working on. I read with interest that the next one will require the latest patch to play. Which shows they are still developing them.

Given the EE of TW1 and TW2 I cant wait for the expansion and DLC to start my 3 playthrough.

[Tonio545]

 

 

Im surprised you didn't give it longer than 15 hours of Velen, honestly as much as i absolutely love the Bloody baron quest Skellige and Novigrad have some AMAZING character quests, especially Novigrad. I do believe you can go meet Triss any time you want too as well. You can also filter out ?'s on the map. No point forcing the issue though no single game is for everyone.

[panzerwzh]

Im surprised you didn't give it longer than 15 hours of Velen, honestly as much as i absolutely love the Bloody baron quest Skellige and Novigrad have some AMAZING character quests, especially Novigrad. I do believe you can go meet Triss any time you want too as well. You can also filter out ?'s on the map. No point forcing the issue though no single game is for everyone.

Skellige is simply amazing, people are generally nice and honest, the snow and da mountain, skyrim what?

 

And you could fist fight a bear!

[Tonio545]

Skellige is simply amazing, people are generally nice and honest, the snow and da mountain, skyrim what?

 

And you could fist fight a bear!

 

Velen and Novigrad so bland in comparison, love the wilderness and picturesque views everywhere you turn lol.

 

http://imgur.com/a/elLYp

[panzerwzh]

Velen and Novigrad so bland in comparison, love the wilderness and picturesque views everywhere you turn lol.

 

http://imgur.com/a/elLYp

Velen still has best sunset though. And Ciri simply makes everything awesome.

 

http://i.imgur.com/DCxRUjj.png

http://i.imgur.com/cCMBAEU.png

http://i.imgur.com/E6hnED8.jpg

[Tonio545]

Oh nice you get to play with her as a sort of companion? No real spoilers please but is it just one mission or longer?

[panzerwzh]

It is a series of quests, and Geralt does spend some quality time with Ciri as companion. In short, their bonding and interaction are simply amazing, the best and realistic father-daughter experience in a RPG.

[panzerwzh]

No I just want more quality time between Yenna and Ciri!

 

http://img04.deviant...bit-d8qmuv0.jpg

[KBomb]

Im surprised you didn't give it longer than 15 hours of Velen, honestly as much as i absolutely love the Bloody baron quest Skellige and Novigrad have some AMAZING character quests, especially Novigrad. I do believe you can go meet Triss any time you want too as well. You can also filter out ?'s on the map. No point forcing the issue though no single game is for everyone.

Spoiler

I adored the serial killer quest that you get in Novigrad and let's not forget the play. That was hilarious. I loved every location, each one had its own atmosphere and they really tried making the quests in each unique.

But yeah, TW3 and DAI have one thing exactly alike; some people love them, yet some don't. It's the way it works and that is perfectly fine.