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[DreamSever]

as it turned out I was right turned on DAI this morning, got to character creator and couldn't go further, 2 reasons, I cant create anything decent or too a high standard and 2 I missed exploring on witcher 3 and went back to it, im gonna be honest I have not completed DAI yet and I bought it day release

 

got to skyhold, quit at exalted plains, it got so boring at the point

 

bear in mind, I done 13 playthroughs of origins

 

6 of da2

 

it goes to show that sometimes change isn't for the better

 

witcher 3 is miles beyond the first 2 witcher games and keeps improving on the features

 

I don't hate bioware but they can do a lot better

[Elhanan]

as it turned out I was right turned on DAI this morning, got to character creator and couldn't go further, 2 reasons, I cant create anything decent or too a high standard and 2 I missed exploring on witcher 3 and went back to it, im gonna be honest I have not completed DAI yet and I bought it day release
 
got to skyhold, quit at exalted plains, it got so boring at the point
 
bear in mind, I done 13 playthroughs of origins
 
6 of da2
 
it goes to show that sometimes change isn't for the better
 
witcher 3 is miles beyond the first 2 witcher games and keeps improving on the features
 
I don't hate bioware but they can do a lot better

While I have more sessions in DAO, the ones for DA2 are almost the same. Yet I have two complete campaigns completed in DAI; goes to show that sometimes change is for the better, at least from DA2, IMO.

And still skipping on the TW series; don't hate CDPR, but they can do a lot better.

[DreamSever]

there is hardly any change, matter of fact, DAO did the sidequests right, even DA2 had dialogue for some of them, first time I went to hinterlands, did the druffalo sidequest and just thought, wtf is my inquisitor doing, herding cattle in the midst of war, finding 10 ram meat when the hunter could've done it himself, note the term 'hunter'

 

I am lucky I made it as far as the exalted plains, don't get me wrong, the main quest dialogue was good but the sidequests and sometimes dead atmosphere made the game unplayable at times

 

personally, all they need to improve on is making the landscapes lifelike with general NPC'S having routines, and obviously some dialogue rich sidequests aswell

 

I miss the feeling that I had with  DAO

[Elhanan]

there is hardly any change, matter of fact, DAO did the sidequests right, even DA2 had dialogue for some of them, first time I went to hinterlands, did the druffalo sidequest and just thought, wtf is my inquisitor doing, herding cattle in the midst of war, finding 10 ram meat when the hunter could've done it himself, note the term 'hunter'
 
I am lucky I made it as far as the exalted plains, don't get me wrong, the main quest dialogue was good but the sidequests and sometimes dead atmosphere made the game unplayable at times
 
personally, all they need to improve on is making the landscapes lifelike with general NPC'S having routines, and obviously some dialogue rich sidequests aswell
 
I miss the feeling that I had with  DAO

While DA2 had dialogue for sidequests, I cannot recall it due to the insignificance of finding pantaloons and the like. However, the Druffalo can also be used as an asset, and feeding the needy was not beneath the status of either of my Inq's, and both times were optional. Nobody is forced to choose either sidequest.

Personally, I enjoy the Exalted Plains; includes war recovery, battles with demons, recruiting allies and getting to know them a little better, and more. As for cut-scenes, recall the quest for Solas being in that region; not my fave, but memorable.

[Maliken]

I suppose you could conclude that Origins was the last great AAA cRPG. There's some fantastic stuff in Inquisition, but it's buried in some awful design choices. I wouldn't mind a future open world DA title, but they seriously need to start putting quality over quantity, and not pad the experience with MMO-style busywork.

 

Funny though, in the past people would dismiss the Witcher franchise as being inferior to Dragon Age via metacritic, but with Wild Hunt scoring higher to even Origins they no longer have that privilege. 

[DreamSever]

the solas quest is a personal one, that should be dialogue rich, im talking abut general npc's like shopkeepers or weary adventurers and stuff, interesting quests like a kidnapped family member, where you have to go in a demon infested cave to rescue them but you have now have a dilemma on the choice, the demon took control of said family member so you got to options to go about it, kill it outright, or defeat it using your wits

 

theres so many variables they could've done with the sidequests to make them interesting

 

im probably expecting too much but even a slight improvement on the sidequests  will be a step in the right direction

 

I also understand its biowares first attempt at open world so I wont berate them too much but understand they have more budget then CDPROJECKT

 

who bear in mind also was their first attempt at open world too

[Elhanan]

I suppose you could conclude that Origins was the last great AAA cRPG. There's some fantastic stuff in Inquisition, but it's buried in some awful design choices. I wouldn't mind a future open world DA title, but they seriously need to start putting quality over quantity, and not pad the experience with MMO-style busywork.
 
Funny though, in the past people would dismiss the Witcher franchise as being inferior to Dragon Age via metacritic, but with Wild Hunt scoring higher to even Origins they no longer have that privilege.

Will not use Metacritic to hail or diminish either title; the site is flawed.

[Elhanan]

the solas quest is a personal one, that should be dialogue rich, im talking abut general npc's like shopkeepers or weary adventurers and stuff, interesting quests like a kidnapped family member, where you have to go in a demon infested cave to rescue them but you have now have a dilemma on the choice, the demon took control of said family member so you got to options to go about it, kill it outright, or defeat it using your wits
 
theres so many variables they could've done with the sidequests to make them interesting
 
im probably expecting too much but even a slight improvement on the sidequests  will be a step in the right direction
 
I also understand its biowares first attempt at open world so I wont berate them too much but understand they have more budget then CDPROJECKT
 
who bear in mind also was their first attempt at open world too

DA2 did not have this, yet it is considered as better because of dialogue feedback? DAI also has this, and for myself was effective as it was overheard when passing the affected parties. While sidequests could have cut-scenes and more dialogue, I prefer the zots be used elsewhere as I do not wish more films and cinematics to be included on less than secondary tasks.

[Tonio545]

as it turned out I was right turned on DAI this morning, got to character creator and couldn't go further, 2 reasons, I cant create anything decent or too a high standard and 2 I missed exploring on witcher 3 and went back to it, im gonna be honest I have not completed DAI yet and I bought it day release

 

got to skyhold, quit at exalted plains, it got so boring at the point

 

bear in mind, I done 13 playthroughs of origins

 

6 of da2

 

it goes to show that sometimes change isn't for the better

 

witcher 3 is miles beyond the first 2 witcher games and keeps improving on the features

 

I don't hate bioware but they can do a lot better

 

Yeah i cant play it at all either, bought day one stopped when you can get Iron bull and Blackwall and this was on release when there was nothing else to play. Tried it again this week during witcher 3 playthrough, stopped as soon as i got to Hinterlands feels like a budget game in comparison. Just nothing good to do outside of the main quest, and to continue it you have to spend so much time doing absolutely dreadful content in what feel like barren landscapes. I have never even got to Skyhold, they absolutely should be able to do better listening to too much feedback and trying to please too many groups the game has no identity it is not theirs. I vastly preferred dragon age 2 for all its faults, with each game they seem to get worse.

[Xetykins]

And still skipping on the TW series; don't hate CDPR, but they can do a lot better.

This comment boggled my mind. They can do a lot better? They have outdone themselves with what they're aiming at. I only saw improvement in each of their series.

I haven't and will not play the game too because of a fixed male protagonist and I could not imagine roaming the world without the really well done companions that Bioware always delivers impressively, but I've probably watched all the lets play on youtube. Just because they feature profanity, the thing that you hate most does not mean they did not do exceptionally well. What I've seen, the depth, the world and consequences is what I wished DAI had been and what I want DA4 to be. It does not have to be as gritty as TW3, DAO style kinda grit is good enough for me. DAI is the only one in the series that I haven't replayed till I drop. If I haven't screwed up my world state on my first pt, I probably won't even do that 2nd. But as I've stated before, I won't delete the game from any of my rigs yet, as I still have hope for meatier dlc than what they've dished out so far. Spoils of Avvar *cough*

Sad thing is, I hate shooters game really much, but I am actually enjoying ME series a lot more than DAI. Even after 2nd pt of the series I still don't know which gun is better than the other. But there's plenty of consequences and story to be had.

[o Ventus]

I suppose you could conclude that Origins was the last great AAA cRPG. There's some fantastic stuff in Inquisition, but it's buried in some awful design choices. I wouldn't mind a future open world DA title, but they seriously need to start putting quality over quantity, and not pad the experience with MMO-style busywork.

 

Funny though, in the past people would dismiss the Witcher franchise as being inferior to Dragon Age via metacritic, but with Wild Hunt scoring higher to even Origins they no longer have that privilege. 

 

If somebody is basing quality from a Metacritic score, they're an idiot.

 

Also, wat. If you're judging a series versus another series, you don't just look at 1 game and say "yep, it's better alright", you look at every game. Otherwise you're not looking at a series versus another series.

[Tonio545]

If somebody is basing quality from a Metacritic score, they're an idiot.

 

Also, wat. If you're judging a series versus another series, you don't just look at 1 game and say "yep, it's better alright", you look at every game. Otherwise you're not looking at a series versus another series.

 

If your looking at it as a series then Witcher still takes it, 2 and 3 are better than dragon age 2 and inquisition, people might disagree on the finer details of each game but not the games as a whole, or they shouldn't at least. It does show the decline in quality sadly, was only 6 years ago they released origins, and almost 8 for Witcher 1 (with biowares engine no less).

[hoechlbear]

This comment boggled my mind. They can do a lot better? They have outdone themselves with what they're aiming at. I only saw improvement in each of their series.

I haven't and will not play the game too because of a fixed male protagonist and I could not imagine roaming the world without the really well done companions that Bioware always delivers impressively, but I've probably watched all the lets play on youtube. Just because they feature profanity, the thing that you hate most does not mean they did not do exceptionally well. What I've seen, the depth, the world and consequences is what I wished DAI had been and what I want DA4 to be. It does not have to be as gritty as TW3, DAO style kinda grit is good enough for me. DAI is the only one in the series that I haven't replayed till I drop. If I haven't screwed up my world state on my first pt, I probably won't even do that 2nd. But as I've stated before, I won't delete the game from any of my rigs yet, as I still have hope for meatier dlc than what they've dished out so far. Spoils of Avvar *cough*

Sad thing is, I hate shooters game really much, but I am actually enjoying ME series a lot more than DAI. Even after 2nd pt of the series I still don't know which gun is better than the other. But there's plenty of consequences and story to be had.

 

You know, I thought exactly the same at first. Before TW3 came out, all I could hear is how awesome the game was going to be but I was always like, "Nope, don't like that white-haired dude" and even when it came out, all the amazing reviews and people saying how great it is, I still didn't budge. But after reading posts on here talking about the quests, characters, the world, I couldn't hold my curiosity any longer, I gave in, bought the damn game without having played the first two. Watched a few youtube videos that explained the story from the past games and started playing. And yes, it was a bit overwhelming at first because I never played a witcher game before and there's so much new information but slowly I started to get the hang of the combat, skills and the story and wow, what a fantastic game this is.

 

The world is sooo immersive, unlike DAI's worlds, I could spend hours running around searching for treasures and killing monsters, because for one, the loot is miles better from what DAI offers and two, the maps actually feel alive (day and night cycle and weather really helps too!) and you often have little encounters with people that need saving. Then it has something that DAI also doesn't have which is a big  city and proper villages with lots of people (that react to you) walking around. I get lost all the time in the big city of Novigrad and start getting annoyed but then that annoyance quickly turns into joy because man, that's a damn nice city. Not only that but the sidequests are absolutely wonderful. Even the witcher contracts which are supposed to be like the chanter's board from DAO don't feel like filler quests at all. You almost always talk to the contract giver which, just that alone, outshines DAI's normal sidequests because you get some actual NPC interaction with cutscenes. Then it always gives you a nice challenge, like looking for clues and you get some twists and turns, unlike DAI, where everything is so straightforward, "go here and do this", it's never that simple in TW3 and I love it! And the real sidequests, man those remind me of the days of DAO, some actual meaty content that keeps my interest. Not to mention, choices and consequences. The characters are also amazing! Some of them are far more interesting than some DAI's companions, but that's a matter of opinions I guess. You often do quests where you are not alone, so sometimes you can have a temporary companion with you. What I'm finding it hard to deal with is that there are so many characters from past games and since I know only the big details, I'm usually at loss during dialogue but still, these characters are so interesting. And Geralt. You know, I never thought I would actually grow fond of this white-haired dude but I did, I really did and I don't think I'm even halfway through the game yet. The story is just so good it's impossible not to feel attached to him and I really think you should give him a chance. I don't know how he was in past games but in TW3 he is great, I love his personality and I know the best is still yet to come.

 

(Will definitely come here again after I finish the game. But I'll just say this, I remember seeing some people talking about the bloody baron quest and maaaaan, what an amazing quest that was, I was weeping with joy while playing through it. Now excuse me, I need to get back to the game.)

[KBomb]

If your looking at it as a series then Witcher still takes it, 2 and 3 are better than dragon age 2 and inquisition, people might disagree on the finer details of each game but not the games as a whole, or they shouldn't at least. It does show the decline in quality sadly, was only 6 years ago they released origins, and almost 8 for Witcher 1 (with biowares engine no less).

In my opinion:

DAO is superior to TW1
TW2 is superior to DA2
TW3 is superior to DAI

I feel CDPR has improved with each game. I feel DA has improved in some areas, too. However, I feel some magic has been lost since DA2 and what was lacking can be found in TW series.

[Elhanan]

This comment boggled my mind. They can do a lot better? They have outdone themselves with what they're aiming at. I only saw improvement in each of their series.

I haven't and will not play the game too because of a fixed male protagonist and I could not imagine roaming the world without the really well done companions that Bioware always delivers impressively, but I've probably watched all the lets play on youtube. Just because they feature profanity, the thing that you hate most does not mean they did not do exceptionally well. What I've seen, the depth, the world and consequences is what I wished DAI had been and what I want DA4 to be. It does not have to be as gritty as TW3, DAO style kinda grit is good enough for me. DAI is the only one in the series that I haven't replayed till I drop. If I haven't screwed up my world state on my first pt, I probably won't even do that 2nd. But as I've stated before, I won't delete the game from any of my rigs yet, as I still have hope for meatier dlc than what they've dished out so far. Spoils of Avvar *cough*

Sad thing is, I hate shooters game really much, but I am actually enjoying ME series a lot more than DAI. Even after 2nd pt of the series I still don't know which gun is better than the other. But there's plenty of consequences and story to be had.

Boggle away; a great looking game without Pause, and served with questionable content is still not the standard I seek. I also skip the LP's.

And am also enjoying a replay of the ME series currently; still prefer the DA series, but wanted to change it up a bit before my next campaign. Note: In the ME series, this Twitchless One can even play a melee heavy Vanguard; doubt I could say the same in many other supposed Action RPG's, even SWTOR.

[Xetykins]

I really think you should give him a chance.

Oh stop it. I'm already on the verge, how dare you try to push me over with your little finger :-p

Seriously though I think I'm just weird. I do like Geralt like I like Master Chief and I haven't even played the games myself. I just watch other people do it.

[Tonio545]

Cant wait for redkit to see what they can do with this game graphically. http://imgur.com/a/PHqXv#3ErFdbi. Favourite is the last one, should of seen it in game, screenshot doesnt do it justice - light and rain bouncing of the shaking trees with lightning above the mountain.

[TheOgre]

0:20-54 - kinda goes over how tw3 satisfied his desire for an rpg entirely

thoughts:

Spoiler

Kind of hard to satisfy everything and I like some features from DAI that I wished were in TW3 like the inventory system isn't impacted by craft materials.. ugh, tw3 I wish crafting materials weren't limited by space)

 

:54-2:11 [His thoughts]

Spoiler

Goes on a bit about how DAI and the consequences of trying to please everyone. I warn that this section is very heavy with either hyperbole or possibly offensive material toward fans of DAI. Hint, the P.C. term came up

.

Personal thoughts:

Spoiler

I do personally believe a lot of content wasn't brought to the game out of fear of angering the wrong crowd. The game felt to me like they were trying to be more inclusive to other groups, which is good in my opinion. I'm not satisfied with the content but at someone in the industry is at least trying to appeal to other fan groups. But they did so in a way that limited angering anyone so the content came off as rather unoffensive and not very convincing for me)

 

2:03-5:40 [his observation on oppression in both games]

Spoiler

He talks a bit about oppression in both games, mostly the difference between DAI and TW3. TW3 you have side quests that go beyond just "get 10 rams meat" "Oh thanks" here's your exp you move on, you don't get to see the result of your actions so much in DAI. TW3, he cites a quest about finding an old ladies cookware. She goes on to tell you why it's important to her, and how the man that has the cookware won't give it back to her. A bit of a spoiler, turns out he had been garroted by someone skillfully trained, presumed to be someone of uncanny skill. It turns out the man was using the cookware for scraping off some lead to create ink because hes possibly a spy for a foreign land. Tl;dr, you are exposed to a variety of things, a mundane quest that actually provides insight into the conflict going on around the land and overall universe

My thoughts:

Spoiler

Okay, I agree mostly but I will offer this. In the hinterlands they devoted a lot of time here it seems, a lot more so than a majority of the other zones in both quests and detail. DAI does try to do this but in a very loose way. Blood brothers in the Hinterlands for example. If you find a note in a shack it's a letter left for his brother that is an 'apostate' or an escaped mage, the father is dead and the son took his sword, challenging his brother to come north to settle things once and for all. You get there to find a dead body, a mercenary, and a mage nearby presumably to be the brother of the mercenary. So you are exposed to a bit of the Mage/Templar example and it does show that even if you are blood related, hatred for mages is there. It does have a miniature quest chain to this quest as well because it starts something called "Business Arrangements" Where you find out a 'sister' is dealing with the Templars. The controversy is that she is supposed to be neutral while inside Redcliffe which is occupied by mages. But it's done in such a loose quick way it's really hard to compare it to the style of Witcher 3's sidequests in general.

 

5:40-6:10

[a rant from him]

Spoiler

Kind of says that it's mediocre, dragon age is rather.

[my comment]

Spoiler

It obviously did not beat my experience with DA2, I loved DA2. It also failed to meet my expectations as I was looking for something closer toward a DAO experience but it didn't happen. That said, I still had some fun with the game, it was decent, not mediocre. It just wasn't what I was hoping for entirely.

 

6:11-12:22

[Talks about the overall setting of DAI, supposed to be a dark world with oppression, racism, and lgbt issues] 

Spoiler

Talks about DAO and DA2 where elves were more visibly oppressed, and mages as well. He essentially says that you have to take them at their word whenever oppression happens because we cannot actually see it. For example, the Dalish elves tell you that the humans are mean and hunt their mounts for sport. Well.. "Shouldn't they be more angry?" He talks about how as a human, they should be telling him to get the heck out of their camp, instead of just being wary of his kind. He proceeds to provide an example from TW3 that establishes the 'real racism' argument. Talking about the dwarf that had his weapon shop burned down by humans because he smithed a few weapons for the enemy army that occupied the town. He lived there for quite a long time and supplied the humans with tools of their own and service, and was a part of their community. The second he had smithed a weapon, WHILE not being paid for this service, for the enemy army, he was no longer a member of the community but a dwarf traitor. This probably wouldn't have happened if he were a human smith. Some commented against his character because, "he's other" "always known something was off about that man because he's not one of us". People who are genuinely racist use justifications to make themselves feel better about their actions.

 

Ends this segment by saying TW3 actually tells AND shows the part. They make you care by making someone uncomfortable by it. he argues that DAI should have done that for making people care about LGBT issues. You need to make people feel uncomfortable about the horrendous actions taken against gays (I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN THE COMMENT BELOW don't.. bite my head off yet..). He then talks about how they did that in TW3 by an encounter with a hunter out in the wilderness. If Geralt presses the hunter on why he lives way out there away from civilization, he explains that the land he came from fell into chaos because he fell in love with the lord of the lands son. When it was exposed that the two were in love with each other, it became such a big deal that the son of the lord killed himself, and now his father drinks himself nearly to death. The land fell into chaos just because he fell in love with a man. he went on to say that it didn't just make him go, "well that sucks", it instead made him actually feel weighted by that. he wasn't able to freely express his love, people were so affected by this that people are dying over this issue, starvation/poverty ect ct.. 

[Comments from me]

Spoiler

The first part, I have to agree almost entirely with his examples and points. It felt rather toned down. The most awkward experience I had dealing with the Daelish elves or the servant elves at Winter Palace was a caution or aversion. It wasn't very convincing for me as a player. I felt more uncomfortable in DAO and in DA2 when dealing with human/elf relations. When I heard about how they burned down the Dwarves shop, and actually went out of their way to justify their actions, I felt rather angry for that dwarf. Humans are capable of being a real a hole and we should be able to see it. They actually burn sorcerers and witches at the stake in tw3. The Rite of Tranquility I will argue is almost as screwed up as burning people at a stake, and you can actually make someone tranquil in DAI through a judgment quest, but you never see it happen.

 

The second part, I will argue you do see a situation with Dorian where you find out his father tried to force his son to be straight through blood magic. In Tevinter you are expected at the higher tiers to procreate and merge bloodlines to secure your heritage. The issue here is that Dorian had no such interest in playing politics and wanted to live life free of being married to some woman he didn't care about in that way. While you weren't immediately exposed to the prejudice Dorian faced in Tevinter, you were exposed to a scene where he confronted his own father to call him out on that. I personally felt pretty heavy watching that. I wanted the two to reconcile, but I doubted it ever would be. The father was genuinely apologetic for his behavior, and Dorian wasn't having it. I was invested in that scene and uncomfortable. There's also Krem, but I honestly wasn't so invested in his scene as I didn't see the brutality he faced. It was just a "shame on you for asking" from Iron Bull. I haven't experienced the conversation with the hunter but I look forward to it. I will say from the sounds of it, they know how to get you invested in the grittiness of TW3

 

12:22-13:40[ Kind of rants a bit about morality scales in bioware games until he gets to a new point ]

[My thoughts:]: Irrelevant 

 

13:40- 16:43

[His take on morality based quests in both DAI and TW3]:

Spoiler

Talks about a quest involving coming across a herbalist that is trying to gather medicine to help a woman that went out to see her lover and got her skull cracked. There's almost nothing that the herbalist can do as the woman will die with their kind of medication. Geralt has an option to brew a mutagen that MIGHT help the dying woman survive, but if it doesn't save her which is a high chance, she will die a very painful death. You try to help, not knowing whether it will make things worse, or leave her to a certain death. You won't know immediately the result of this quest as it could take several days to get the result but the npc thanks you genuinely for trying to help, at least you tried to give her a chance. This 'compels' a player to give an emotional response.

 

He said after that, he could picture this exact same quest, and other quests in a Bioware game where you will ultimate save people and never have to wonder if you are truly helping someone or not. The good guy will make the potion, the bad guy is too lazy to make the potion'. Black and white, no human drama. Further comments by saying they played for the human drama element in the older bioware games.

[My comments on this segment] 

Spoiler

I agree that TW3 nails it with the morally ambiguous quests but I personally am on the fence about black and white quests with Bioware titles as of recent. I remember specifically a quest with Garrus in ME1 where you have the ability to execute a potentially dangerous entity called Doctor Death or whatever who's a monster. The thing is, he acts like he's completely not knowing of what Garrus is even talking about when you confront him. I personally was confused as to whether I should let Garrus kill him or we let him go. I'm actually at this point going to ask you guys to come up with a DAI comparison here if you have one. I don't want to blindly agree as I am personally not sure if this is accurate to say.

 

Plus the comment earlier about betraying the older fanbase kind of grates at me as Realmz did point out some of the older playerbase really likes DAI's direction.. Even if I'm not on board with that direction.

 

16:43-19:11

[Talks about why he doesn't play many games anymore, claims of watering down story for fear of offending anyone]

Spoiler

Goes on to say that since CDPR isn't the ticket holder, they don't have to worry about offending people in general. They can write what they write. Talks about Bioware's current route taken, doesn't know if they are capable of writing truly engaging characters anymore. He uses Dorian as an example (which.. I'm going to rant about in a comment below). His thoughts was that Dorian was an amazing character and what he stood for. Trying to represent Tevinter, Demonstrate that a tevinter stood against Corypheous, and talks about how he wants to free the people from the oppressive Mages of his culture. Then he talks about the 'high point' of his story being, he wants YOU to talk to his dad about his sexuality. At the end of the day he wants the big bad inquisitor to talk to his dad for him, solving an identity crisis. 

[My thoughts]

Spoiler

I do agree that since Bioware is a big name, and EA is a big publishing company they do come under a higher scrutiny for the content they release. But I genuinely believe the Bioware wants to write what they want, at least most of the time. I am not happy that they removed the twist to the Envy demon scene as it was considered potentially offensive to all the wrong people. Eh..

 

But the argument about truly engaging characters being nonexistent from Bioware's recent games is absolute horse--something. Dorian was a fantastic character ALL THE WAY THROUGH! I am not attracted to males, and I can proudly say that I'd gladly hang out with that kind of guy as a friend. His views are to my liking. His views on Southern Thedas and how they rule their people? I agree to said views. The part that really turned me away from this rant and made me cringe a bit was the part about talking to his dad. You had a chance to see a glimmer of a softer side to this otherwise bold character. He had a soft spot, and didn't want to talk to his dad himself. I just remembered too, he didn't know his dad would even be there by the way. he thought it was a trap to kidnap him back to Tevinter. So you can see why I am not a fan of that section. They can write engaging characters, it's really just their main story lines and side quest content that I'm really having issues with... along with the combat direction.. And the offensive material being limited.. and the well, other stuff I'm going to leave out.

 

19:11- 20:34: [His last segment talks about DAI having a political message in every zone, no real oppression, tell not show]

 

Spoiler

It's as it says above. He argues that there's nothing really there to care about. Believes that Bioware's writing should try to do what Witcher does. Because it's so brutal you actually want to help people or become invested in it.

 

[my thoughts]

Spoiler

I agree about there being a political message behind DAI. I don't personally see as much oppression toward the Mages in particular, or against the Elves for that matter. I see maybe a class issue but that's it. There is a sort of grim I can say though for certain, Emprise Du Leon the red templars force the villagers to work with Red Lirium, and there are people dying from being exposed to the lirium. It's truly horrifying. 

 

That is why I'm more likely to say that Bioware's writers DO have it in them to capture the grim setting. It just wasn't really evident for me on an overall level going through DAI.

 

I wouldn't say copy Witcher outright. I'd say try to get back to what you did well back with DAO, and put emphasis on moral grey and creepy situations. Try not to be too inclusive to the point where that's all the game is. Focus on mechanics, and main story/side quests. I was invested in DAI at times, but not often.

 

GOD that took forever.

 

That took longer than I hoped. The larger sections I gave a topic sentence before the spoiler so that people could know what they were getting into. On a second review I'll say I'm not as wow'd by the video because I found myself defending DAI. I found myself agreeing to maybe 70% of the content of the video but finding the other percent a bit inflated.

[panzerwzh]

You know, I thought exactly the same at first. Before TW3 came out, all I could hear is how awesome the game was going to be but I was always like, "Nope, don't like that white-haired dude" and even when it came out, all the amazing reviews and people saying how great it is, I still didn't budge. But after reading posts on here talking about the quests, characters, the world, I couldn't hold my curiosity any longer, I gave in, bought the damn game without having played the first two. Watched a few youtube videos that explained the story from the past games and started playing. And yes, it was a bit overwhelming at first because I never played a witcher game before and there's so much new information but slowly I started to get the hang of the combat, skills and the story and wow, what a fantastic game this is.
 
The world is sooo immersive, unlike DAI's worlds, I could spend hours running around searching for treasures and killing monsters, because for one, the loot is miles better from what DAI offers and two, the maps actually feel alive (day and night cycle and weather really helps too!) and you often have little encounters with people that need saving. Then it has something that DAI also doesn't have which is a big  city and proper villages with lots of people (that react to you) walking around. I get lost all the time in the big city of Novigrad and start getting annoyed but then that annoyance quickly turns into joy because man, that's a damn nice city. Not only that but the sidequests are absolutely wonderful. Even the witcher contracts which are supposed to be like the chanter's board from DAO don't feel like filler quests at all. You almost always talk to the contract giver which, just that alone, outshines DAI's normal sidequests because you get some actual NPC interaction with cutscenes. Then it always gives you a nice challenge, like looking for clues and you get some twists and turns, unlike DAI, where everything is so straightforward, "go here and do this", it's never that simple in TW3 and I love it! And the real sidequests, man those remind me of the days of DAO, some actual meaty content that keeps my interest. Not to mention, choices and consequences. The characters are also amazing! Some of them are far more interesting than some DAI's companions, but that's a matter of opinions I guess. You often do quests where you are not alone, so sometimes you can have a temporary companion with you. What I'm finding it hard to deal with is that there are so many characters from past games and since I know only the big details, I'm usually at loss during dialogue but still, these characters are so interesting. And Geralt. You know, I never thought I would actually grow fond of this white-haired dude but I did, I really did and I don't think I'm even halfway through the game yet. The story is just so good it's impossible not to feel attached to him and I really think you should give him a chance. I don't know how he was in past games but in TW3 he is great, I love his personality and I know the best is still yet to come.
 
(Will definitely come here again after I finish the game. But I'll just say this, I remember seeing some people talking about the bloody baron quest and maaaaan, what an amazing quest that was, I was weeping with joy while playing through it. Now excuse me, I need to get back to the game.)

Gerald alway is an awesome character through all three games. You could try TW1 and 2 they are still high quality RPG by today's standard.

[KBomb]

I love the new DLC for this week. The alternative outfit for Ciri is freaking awesome and the title of the new quest, "Where the cat and wolf play...." is intriguing. For some reason, Ciri's outfit is saying Unavailable to me, but I can download the quest. I hope it gets resolved soon because my Ciri needs that armor. Like, now. Right, now.

[Eelectrica]

This comment boggled my mind. They can do a lot better? They have outdone themselves with what they're aiming at. I only saw improvement in each of their series.

I haven't and will not play the game too because of a fixed male protagonist and I could not imagine roaming the world without the really well done companions that Bioware always delivers impressively, but I've probably watched all the lets play on youtube. Just because they feature profanity, the thing that you hate most does not mean they did not do exceptionally well. What I've seen, the depth, the world and consequences is what I wished DAI had been and what I want DA4 to be. It does not have to be as gritty as TW3, DAO style kinda grit is good enough for me. DAI is the only one in the series that I haven't replayed till I drop. If I haven't screwed up my world state on my first pt, I probably won't even do that 2nd. But as I've stated before, I won't delete the game from any of my rigs yet, as I still have hope for meatier dlc than what they've dished out so far. Spoils of Avvar *cough*

Sad thing is, I hate shooters game really much, but I am actually enjoying ME series a lot more than DAI. Even after 2nd pt of the series I still don't know which gun is better than the other. But there's plenty of consequences and story to be had.

The great thing about Witcher 3 is they knew when to lighten the mood as well. Something really cool happens - which I'm not going to spoil, it's too awesome when it happens and totally unexpected, but when people reach that point, it tops Sera's little pranks by 1000.

 

But yeah, the next step for CDPR is choice of character and companions. I'd be disappointed a little if Cyberpunk doesn't do both.

In Witcher 2 they tinkered with companions where Geralt can lead a band of dwarves through a little mine raid. Some minor banter in that sequence as well, but sadly the dwarves just tended to get in the road more than anything, but being a small sequence, I don't imagine they spent too much time on refining it.

 

I understand that the reflex combat in the Witcher games isn't for everyone, it's a shame people won't be able to experience the game for themselves because of that. BioWare's mix of pause'n'play, which I think they pioneered is something I hope they continue to develop on the FB engine. They made progress on the tac cam, but I think further improvements can be made.

 

Even after Witcher 3, I still prefer in the DA games that BioWare give us more choice on character - granted Witcher 3's Ciri story wouldn't really work if we were playing some random witcher as Ciri would say 'who are you?' as would any of Geralts other companions from the books.

Still it is possible to have a more open character and tell a good story at the same time.

[Saphiron123]

While I have more sessions in DAO, the ones for DA2 are almost the same. Yet I have two complete campaigns completed in DAI; goes to show that sometimes change is for the better, at least from DA2, IMO.

And still skipping on the TW series; don't hate CDPR, but they can do a lot better.

You're saying the developers of a game you refuse to experience for yourself can do a lot better?

The witcher 3 is amazing. The detail, the quests, the world and the story are all top notch.

A man who refuses to try something and criticizes it anyway has no right to speak.

[panzerwzh]

Best moment for my TW3 journey so far. It has nothing to do with traditional RPG gaming but when character emotion, expression, pacing, music, background story and awesome cinematography  all come into play together, it is simply epic.

 

[panzerwzh]

You're saying the developers of a game you refuse to experience for yourself can do a lot better?

The witcher 3 is amazing. The detail, the quests, the world and the story are all top notch.

A man who refuses to try something and criticizes it anyway has no right to speak.

Second it, all these smaller things do add up to an epic journey. It could not simple concluded  as CDPR's design quality  but their passion towards what they created. Unfortunately I could not found it in any Bioware games anymore. 

 

An epic tribute for an epic journey

 

Spoiler

Ciri FTW!

 

Father and daughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLbgaG_WbE

[Elhanan]

You're saying the developers of a game you refuse to experience for yourself can do a lot better?

The witcher 3 is amazing. The detail, the quests, the world and the story are all top notch.

A man who refuses to try something and criticizes it anyway has no right to speak.

Refuses to purchase a game that cannot be used and/ or played enjoyably seems fairly reasonable to me. Add a Pause function, and limit the objectionable material, and then I may invest. Until then, I use my right as a consumer to spend responsibly, and use the info given from several sources.

Don't have to go to free-fall without a chute to know it may end poorly....