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[correctamundo]

In my opinion:

DAO is superior to TW1
DA2 I have played but not TW2, so cannot really say but still I have enjoyed DA2 immensely and Kirkwalls finest does trumph the Gang of Geralts. =)
DAI is superior to TW3, now this one is close. They are different and both enjoyable but overall DAI has been more fun.

I feel though that overall both franchises are to my liking. I have gotten myself a little teaser out of TW2 and will no doubt enjoy that one as well.

[TheOgre]

I'm glad people can like multiple franchises and be fair about it. My problems with TW3 are inventory related mostly. I wish I could enjoy games without being so critical of the details.

[Drantwo]

In my opinion,

DAO>TW1
TW2>DA2 (just because of those repeated environments)
TW3>>>DA:I (Because of the short main quest, boring side quest, lessened tactics and absence of cities)

[chance52]

Best moment for my TW3 journey so far. It has nothing to do with traditional RPG gaming but when character emotion, expression, pacing, music, background story and awesome cinematography  all come into play together, it is simply epic.

 

 

I played TW3 before finishing the last 2 books in the series and that song didn't have near the impact it did when I finished the series. After reading the entire book series that song hits so many emotions as you listen to it. I never felt more for Geralt and Yen as I did hearing that song after the books. So many feels packed into one game, I don't know how they did it.  

 

Also interesting fact, Emma Hiddleston, sister of Tom Hiddleston (Thor's Loki) is the English voice actress for Priscilla.

 

There were a lot of emotional moments in DA:O and I can't say I had any in DAI. Well, one now that I think about it. When Hawke

Spoiler

maybe dies

and you tell Varric.  I feel that DAI could have worked harder to make the story have more of an impact on the player. Moments where the Chargers will die if you don't abandon a boat full of people was a silly choice, also they weren't even that far away so no reason you couldn't save both.  You never actually meet or even see the Qunari that could die and as for the Chargers all you really know about any of them is they have nick names and half a sentence about them. I could care less about the Chargers outside of Bull and Krem because you never get to know them so it's a nothing choice. "Do you want to save these generic NPC's over here or those generic (hidden) NPC's over there." I flipped a coin and didn't care one bit what side I picked.

Spoiler

Iron Bull himself doesn't even care if the Chargers die past 2 sentences and then moves on

 

However in a werewolf sidequest in TW3 there were at least 3 ways that could end and I kept reloading because I wanted to try and get the best one. Spoiler alert

Spoiler

all ends to that side quest are sad

[TheOgre]

I tried looking up the song lyrics for it on google and couldn't. SO I didn't know it was about Yen and Geralt, can someone link me a link to the song?

[chance52]

Here are the lyrics TheOgre.

 

These scars long have yearned for your tender caress
To bind our fortunes, damn what the stars own
Rend my heart open, then your love profess
A winding, weaving fate to which we both atone

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

The wolf I will follow into the storm
To find your heart, its passion displaced
By ire ever growing, hardening into stone
Amidst the cold to you in a heated embrace

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

I know not if fate would have us live as one
Or if by love's blind chance we've been bound
The wish I whispered, when it all began
Did it forge a love you might never have found?

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

[panzerwzh]

I played TW3 before finishing the last 2 books in the series and that song didn't have near the impact it did when I finished the series. After reading the entire book series that song hits so many emotions as you listen to it. I never felt more for Geralt and Yen as I did hearing that song after the books. So many feels packed into one game, I don't know how they did it.  

 

Also interesting fact, Emma Hiddleston, sister of Tom Hiddleston (Thor's Loki) is the English voice actress for Priscilla.

 

There were a lot of emotional moments in DA:O and I can't say I had any in DAI. Well, one now that I think about it. When Hawke

Spoiler

maybe dies

and you tell Varric.  I feel that DAI could have worked harder to make the story have more of an impact on the player. Moments where the Chargers will die if you don't abandon a boat full of people was a silly choice, also they weren't even that far away so no reason you couldn't save both.  You never actually meet or even see the Qunari that could die and as for the Chargers all you really know about any of them is they have nick names and half a sentence about them. I could care less about the Chargers outside of Bull and Krem because you never get to know them so it's a nothing choice. "Do you want to save these generic NPC's over here or those generic (hidden) NPC's over there." I flipped a coin and didn't care one bit what side I picked.

Spoiler

Iron Bull himself doesn't even care if the Chargers die past 2 sentences and then moves on

 

However in a werewolf sidequest in TW3 there were at least 3 ways that could end and I kept reloading because I wanted to try and get the best one. Spoiler alert

Spoiler

all ends to that side quest are sad

I did not know Loki'sis is Priscilla's voice (Essi for me ). I did cried when I first hear the song when imaging Geralt saving yenna and Ciri from stygga castle with all those brave friends who sacrificed themselves (Angoulême, Milva, Rigis especially) and also the tragic end in Rivia when Geralt faced that freaking pitchfork. TW3 is such a wonderful emotion rollercoaster for me, joy,sorrow, compassion, regret, sympathy etc. CDPR has successfully build an bleak world with enough details to make it believable and allow player emotionally attached to all characters (of both main and side quests) and the choices them made. That itself is such a achievement.  For example,  even the a small thanks ("Thank you for give a damm!") from the herbalists in White Orchard gives me more emotional impact than all the quests in DAI combined. And the new free DLC released today also provide such an nice quest:

 

Spoiler

A poor village has some trouble with a dangerous leshen, hence they put a contract out, and accepted by a cat school witcher Gaethen . When the dangerous job is done witcher wants to collect his bounty, while poor villagers who could not sustain their younglings try to reduce bounty to 12 crowns. Witcher refused then folks turned on him try to killed him with a pitchfork! (Geralt's nightmare:) Cat school witcher is wounded hence he massacred all villagers except a young girl im rampage...

 

Witcher is also pissed of by the fact that after he risked his ass for those poor villagers them were willing to finish him off for just dozen crowns. Another bleak day in this miserable world.

 

Furthermore CDPR really outdone all my expectations for TW3, not only as the TW game player but also as a book reader. This is really an ending Geralt Yenna Ciri deserved and the passion and diligence of CDPR put in this game really shines .

 

On the other hand, as a former died hard Bioware fan, I really not sure what would I except from potential DA4. DAI is a quality RPG while DA2 is a disaster. Unfortunately none of them have quality to established a believable world to let me care about it, not to say emotionally attached. Bioware really has a mountain to climb now, since TW3 really sets the new standard for open world fantasy RPG.

[panzerwzh]

Here are the lyrics TheOgre.

 

These scars long have yearned for your tender caress
To bind our fortunes, damn what the stars own
Rend my heart open, then your love profess
A winding, weaving fate to which we both atone

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

The wolf I will follow into the storm
To find your heart, its passion displaced
By ire ever growing, hardening into stone
Amidst the cold to you in a heated embrace

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

I know not if fate would have us live as one
Or if by love's blind chance we've been bound
The wish I whispered, when it all began
Did it forge a love you might never have found?

You flee my dream come the morning
Your scent - berries tart, lilac sweet
To dream of raven locks entwisted, stormy
Of violet eyes, glistening as you weep

Beautiful ballad.

Polish version is the best, while German version is hauntingly beautiful as well. More importantly, voice actors of different languages share similar voice range as well. So the attention of detail behind this song is really admirable. Another good example for quality control. 

 

Polish:

 

German version:

[hoechlbear]

Refuses to purchase a game that cannot be used and/ or played enjoyably seems fairly reasonable to me. Add a Pause function, and limit the objectionable material, and then I may invest. Until then, I use my right as a consumer to spend responsibly, and use the info given from several sources.

Don't have to go to free-fall without a chute to know it may end poorly....

 

Hmm, so you don't want to play a game just because it doesn't have a pause button? That's what matters to you? Not the amazing characters, story and world? Ok then.

 

 

You're saying the developers of a game you refuse to experience for yourself can do a lot better?

The witcher 3 is amazing. The detail, the quests, the world and the story are all top notch.

A man who refuses to try something and criticizes it anyway has no right to speak.

 

 

In my opinion, it's the typical blind hate some people have for the witcher games. And before someone jumps at me, yes, the same can be said about some witcher fans that hate on everything that isn't the witcher, but I've yet to see one in this forum. What I've seen so far is DA fans that are (extremely) unhappy with DAI and turn to TW3 for solace, and hope that one day DA4 will be as good, at least that's how I feel. But some people immediately think "Oh, this person doesn't like DAI and likes TW3, they must be a TW fanboy/fangirl that hates DA." *sigh*

[Elhanan]

Hmm, so you don't want to play a game just because it doesn't have a pause button? That's what matters to you? Not the amazing characters, story and world? Ok then.

If the amazing characters, story, and world are served with a putrid sauce over everything, it does not matter. But Pause and/ or Tac-Cam are rather important due to my lack of reflexes and disabilities.
 
 

In my opinion, it's the typical blind hate some people have for the witcher games. And before someone jumps at me, yes, the same can be said about some witcher fans that hate on everything that isn't the witcher, but I've yet to see one in this forum. What I've seen so far is DA fans that are (extremely) unhappy with DAI and turn to TW3 for solace, and hope that one day DA4 will be as good, at least that's how I feel. But some people immediately think "Oh, this person doesn't like DAI and likes TW3, they must be a TW fanboy/fangirl that hates DA." *sigh*

Some see only what they seek, it seems....

[Eelectrica]

Hmm, so you don't want to play a game just because it doesn't have a pause button? That's what matters to you? Not the amazing characters, story and world? Ok then.

 

 

To be honest. I can understand that one. I know someone who can't play due to RSI (or I think it's a form of RSI), and the amount of clicking required in combat would just make it impossible. Can only play games with auto attack or automatic weapons that don't require a lot of mouse clicks.

 

Perhaps on the easier difficulties it wouldn't be an issue. I've only played it on the second hardest, due to the desire for some challenge and tactical thought, but didn't want to hit Mr Brickwall in combat either.

[Xetykins]

Boggle away; a great looking game without Pause, and served with questionable content is still not the standard I seek. I also skip the LP's.

Then you really don't have the leg to stand on when you said they have not done better. You do not know anything about the game at all aside from reviews. And we know how that worked for DAI, where not one of them touched the PC functionality for example. Not having a pause function means it's a poor game? Or the swear words? I too think that I have legitimate reason not to play the game. But unlike you, my mind is not THAT closed that I could not give the game credit where credit is due and won't discredit the whole game for the 2 things I do not like.

[Elhanan]

Then you really don't have the leg to stand on when you said they have not done better. You do not know anything about the game at all aside from reviews. And we know how that worked for DAI, where not one of them touched the PC functionality for example. Not having a pause function means it's a poor game? Or the swear words? I too think that I have legitimate reason not to play the game. But unlike you, my mind is not THAT closed that I could not give the game credit where credit is due and won't discredit the whole game for the 2 things I do not like.

That leg is based on content I dislike, and a feature most likely needed to actually play the game. Now I know not what sources others choose to use when making a purchase, but I am content with the ones chosen; far better than spending that much on a product one cannot enjoy. But the blind purchases seem to generate some of the warm, heart-felt criticism seen on BSN, so there is that bonus to that approach....

And I play on the PC; functions worked fine after I re-mapped the controls before gameplay. As I recall, TW3 had to fix this with a patch. Of course, I read about this; did not have to experience it first hand... or leg.

[Tonio545]

Why are you even in this thread? You cant give feedback on something you seemingly have never played, nor will ever play due to some idea of what i can only guess is some form of fanboyism, pc controls were fine...bet you thought the side quests were brilliant too eh?.

 

Having a disability that prevents you from involving in yourself in combat is a legitimate reason, but its not a reason to trash the pretty unanimously lauded story - how can you possibly claim to know that the story has "a putrid sauce all over it" what the hell does that even mean in a plain sense. Iamthedreadwolf has it right, most of us found inquisition to be a pitiful offering, we can see beyond which company made what and TW3 offers a far better experience and as fans hope bioware can emulate it. You are just stuffing your fingers in your ears and running through the thread shouting.

 

Edit: Dont like Ciri's alt either like something out of a JRPG lol...http://images-eds.xb...png&h=294&w=215

[panzerwzh]

Bioware, Bioware never change...

 

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[Elhanan]

Why are you even in this thread? You cant give feedback on something you seemingly have never played, nor will ever play due to some idea of what i can only guess is some form of fanboyism, pc controls were fine...bet you thought the side quests were brilliant too eh?.
 
Having a disability that prevents you from involving in yourself in combat is a legitimate reason, but its not a reason to trash the pretty unanimously lauded story - how can you possibly claim to know that the story has "a putrid sauce all over it" what the hell does that even mean in a plain sense. Iamthedreadwolf has it right, most of us found inquisition to be a pitiful offering, we can see beyond which company made what and TW3 offers a far better experience and as fans hope bioware can emulate it. You are just stuffing your fingers in your ears and running through the thread shouting.
 
Edit: Dont like Ciri's alt either like something out of a JRPG lol...http://images-eds.xb...png&h=294&w=215

Seems like there are a few folks willing to tell others what their rights are here. Already know; signed the same ToS as everyone else.

Yep; my system and DAI controls worked just fine after re-mapping the control keys. This is apparently an advantage gained by getting the actual disks and waiting a day to read what the launch day complaints were about for controls. And Side quests were improved from DA2; not brilliant, but I did like the feedback placed in the game, as well as the lesser number of cut-scenes.

As for objectionable material, this is covered fairly well in the ESRB rating and the trailers. One does not have to purchase a rabid dog to be informed that it might not be the best of pets.

[Xetykins]

That leg is based on content I dislike, and a feature most likely needed to actually play the game. Now I know not what sources others choose to use when making a purchase, but I am content with the ones chosen; far better than spending that much on a product one cannot enjoy. But the blind purchases seem to generate some of the warm, heart-felt criticism seen on BSN, so there is that bonus to that approach....And I play on the PC; functions worked fine after I re-mapped the controls before gameplay. As I recall, TW3 had to fix this with a patch. Of course, I read about this; did not have to experience it first hand... or leg.

I know I wont enjoy the game too because of fixed protagonist, that's why I did not buy it, but I could still see how insanely well done it is IN SPITE of the fixed protagonist that I loathe.

But enough of that. This thread is about people who thinks DAI could possibly benefit something from TW3. That means people who actually played or has at least watched something much more than just reviews. Or like Mr. London who genuinely tried the game but it's just not for him.

There is a thread about what DAI does better than TW3, which is probably the most appropriate crowd for you. I'm not shooing you away mind you. I just think that the mostly positive tw3 feedback here does not fit you. You had absolutely nothing positive to say about this game. Just snarky remarks whenever someone said something negative about the game you like.

[GGGenesis]

Haters are just fans throwing a tantrum. I'm not a Witcher fan but my partner loves it. It seems alright but a bit stern to my tastes, similar to AC after the first Ezio game or Skyrim. I like games that break the tension in clever ways. My favourite Bioshock was the first one and I love the Fallout series but not so much Skyrim. DA:I gells with me more but we're really comparing games of different flavours here. Just because they both have medieval stuff and are open worldish doesn't mean they can be compared or can ever replicate each other. DA:I is more like ME and young adult fiction whereas TW3 is more Skyrimmy and like a bottle of bourbon and a medium rare steak. You get me? You get me.

[correctamundo]

...even the a small thanks ("Thank you for give a damm!") from the herbalists in White Orchard gives me more emotional impact than all the quests in DAI combined.

 

Careful so you don't burst there.

 

Anyway, if that is really true I am sorry but it says more about you than it does of the game.

[Elhanan]

I know I wont enjoy the game too because of fixed protagonist, that's why I did not buy it, but I could still see how insanely well done it is IN SPITE of the fixed protagonist that I loathe.

But enough of that. This thread is about people who thinks DAI could possibly benefit something from TW3. That means people who actually played or has at least watched something much more than just reviews. Or like Mr. London who genuinely tried the game but it's just not for him.

There is a thread about what DAI does better than TW3, which is probably the most appropriate crowd for you. I'm not shooing you away mind you. I just think that the mostly positive tw3 feedback here does not fit you. You had absolutely nothing positive to say about this game. Just snarky remarks whenever someone said something negative about the game you like.

And I am guessing that a playtest of the game was not required to discover that TW3 had a fixed PC. By reading of this beforehand, one can make an informed purchase; a recommended practice.

And an opinion on what is well done varies, so when I read of suggestions of what to include in the games I do play, I choose to respond to support or decline such recommendations. Believe I have this right; plan to continue to use it.

Mounted Combat; like it in theory.

[KBomb]

Careful so you don't burst there.

Anyway, if that is really true I am sorry but it says more about you than it does of the game.

I think that's a bit unfair.

[Lord Bolton]

Why are you even in this thread? You cant give feedback on something you seemingly have never played, nor will ever play due to some idea of what i can only guess is some form of fanboyism, pc controls were fine...bet you thought the side quests were brilliant too eh?.

I don't want to be rude, but that's why I've added him to my ignore list. I have no idea why he's spending his precious time in this thread, while he doesn't know anything about TW3.

I really appreciate negative comments about TW3 from some people here (because they've actually played TW3), but not this. 

[Xetykins]

And I am guessing that a playtest of the game was not required to discover that TW3 had a fixed PC. By reading of this beforehand, one can make an informed purchase; a recommended practice.And an opinion on what is well done varies, so when I read of suggestions of what to include in the games I do play, I choose to respond to support or decline such recommendations. Believe I have this right; plan to continue to use it.Mounted Combat; like it in theory.

Mm Ive been reading beforehand how the women are still treated badly in TW3 too. It's not until I've seen a lot of it ( seen not played who said anything about purchase?)that I found out how untrue that was.

[Gorwath-F]

Careful so you don't burst there.

 

Anyway, if that is really true I am sorry but it says more about you than it does of the game.

Elaborate, please.

 

Not that I think you have anything worthwhile to say. It just that whenever you open your mouth I have the pleasure of spotting another logical fallacy. Dish of the day: ad hominem.

[Dreadstruck]

Mm Ive been reading beforehand how the women are still treated badly in TW3 too. It's not until I've seen a lot of it ( seen not played who said anything about purchase?)that I found out how untrue that was.

 

Soooo... you still sure you don't wanna give it a try?