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[TheOgre]

Well you have to conquer it first, sheesh! You can't destroy a planet over night. What kind of villains do you think we Japanese create?! Lazy, impatient villains?! We have more than just Gojira you know!!1!!1

We need a childhood friend that becomes a LI in this game we're obviously creating. Come on now. Also the creepy older brother little sister trope too. That's becoming more popular in JRPG's right? Right!?

 

Oh and while we are at it, the protagonist has to have a team that counter picks the major antagonists own team.. Sort of like this.

 

 

God those were the days..

 

(Alright i'm done don't hurt me please)

[Laughing_Man]

Might have missed a few other DAI DLC, including The Black Emporium which is free; in case one did not mean to intentionally compare an item mod to content. And like sidequests, I choose which to purchase and install; none of it is mandatory.

 

I didn't miss a thing: Most of the content included in the black emporium was already in the game, TBE is one glorified vendor.

16 free DLC's is still much more than this.

 

With DA:I we got JoH, and I doubt that we will see another substantial DLC, certainly not an expansion.

With TW3 you have in addition to free DLC's, two expansions in the oven.

 

Also, when it comes to mods, TW3 is superior in every way, with modding supported by CDPR.

With DAI they really wanted to support modding, but they "couldn't". Right. I bet it has nothing to do with the fact that modding will hurt sales on re-skin DLC's.

 

To summarize, with TW3 I not only got my initial money's worth, but in addition it's a product with a much longer shelf life than DAI.

 

I hope someone pays you well for the diligent yet hopeless work you do in this thread.

DA:I was a mediocre game with a lot of wasted potential that got GOTY as the default choice in a year without any real competition. Yay.

[FKA_Servo]

Do we know when the toolkit is coming out yet?

[AmberDragon]

I didn't miss a thing: Most of the content included in the black emporium was already in the game, TBE is one glorified vendor.

16 free DLC's is still much more than this.

 

With DA:I we got JoH, and I doubt that we will see another substantial DLC, certainly not an expansion.

With TW3 you have in addition to free DLC's, two expansions in the oven.

 

Also, when it comes to mods, TW3 is superior in every way, with modding supported by CDPR.

With DAI they really wanted to support modding, but they "couldn't". Right. I bet it has nothing to do with the fact that modding will hurt sales on re-skin DLC's.

 

To summarize, with TW3 I not only got my initial money's worth, but in addition it's a product with a much longer shelf life than DAI.

 

I hope someone pays you well for the diligent yet hopeless work you do in this thread.

DA:I was a mediocre game with a lot of wasted potential that got GOTY as the default choice in a year without any real competition. Yay.

 

Except JOH isn't free. Unlike the extra quests we have had so far for TW3 and Bioware/EA are charging extra for armour packs too, which we have had a couple of free armour packs for TW3 ...

 

As much as I enjoyed DAI when I played it (I did five or six complete playthroughs) I don't think I will be replaying it again anytime soon and I certainly won't be paying for JOH or the Spoils of the Avaar or whatever the other over priced dlc for DAI is called. I already paid more for DAI than I did for Witcher 3 (both pre-ordered), but Witcher 3 is far superior and the free dlc are great. As TheOgre said the guys at CDPR value their customers too and unlike the Bioware devs they actually interact with people in their forum and address concerns and bugs in a timely fashion. 

[Xetykins]

Do we know when the toolkit is coming out yet?

Sadly, I think we will never see that.

[HowlingSiren]

Do we know when the toolkit is coming out yet?

You mean for TW3? After the expansions have been released, no exact date confirmed yet. They are focusing on the content first, then the toolkit. 

 

Can't wait to see what the modders do with this game. Loved how DAO was moddable as well - it added a ton of replay value, not to mention bug fixes that BW never got around to. 

[Drantwo]

Frankly people, just ignore those who blindly bash TW3 without actually playing it. I can understand do not chose the game because of the absence of combat or because of profanity issues because that is personal choice. Totally understandable. But when someone bashes TW3 just because it does not cater to your personal need, it is really foolish and uncalled for. That is just like going to KFC and bashing them because they do not serve Pizza. This also true for people who blindly bash DAI without actually playing it. I understand that there were a lot of those latter posts here before. But truly, these last few pages have ample of constructive feedback and has been wonderful. Posting the same reason for not liking the game again and again and again, when I am sure everybody knows it already, is a indication that one is just here to cause unwanted arguments. Doesn't do anyone any good. If you have nothing constructive to offer in this particular topic, don't be on this page at all. No one is randomly hating on DA:I here. Me criticizing DA:I doesn't mean I am less of a fan of the franchise than you are. 

 

Seriously, stop this kiddish nonsense.

[FKA_Servo]

You mean for TW3? After the expansions have been released, no exact date confirmed yet. They are focusing on the content first, then the toolkit. 

 

Can't wait to see what the modders do with this game. Loved how DAO was moddable as well - it added a ton of replay value, not to mention bug fixes that BW never got around to. 

 

Thanks - yeah, I should have specified that I was talking about the Redkit, or whatever it's called.

 

I've been hiding from this thread mostly because it's full of spoilers and I'm still playing through the series, on TW2. I haven't gotten TW3 yet and was thinking I'd do it once the mod scene cracked open a little bit.

 

That seems like potentially an awfully long time for them to wait though.

[Elhanan]

Frankly people, just ignore those who blindly bash TW3 without actually playing it. I can understand do not chose the game because of the absence of combat or because of profanity issues because that is personal choice. Totally understandable. But when someone bashes TW3 just because it does not cater to your personal need, it is really foolish and uncalled for. That is just like going to KFC and bashing them because they do not serve Pizza. This also true for people who blindly bash DAI without actually playing it. I understand that there were a lot of those latter posts here before. But truly, these last few pages have ample of constructive feedback and has been wonderful. Posting the same reason for not liking the game again and again and again, when I am sure everybody knows it already, is a indication that one is just here to cause unwanted arguments. Doesn't do anyone any good. If you have nothing constructive to offer in this particular topic, don't be on this page at all. No one is randomly hating on DA:I here. Me criticizing DA:I doesn't mean I am less of a fan of the franchise than you are. 
 
Seriously, stop this kiddish nonsense.

Am not intending to bash TW3; many presume this as my intent. What I do mean to state is that TW3 would be a better game for me with a Pause feature, so that I could actually play it, and restrict the objectionable materials placed in the content. I hope for the sake of CDPR that they receive accolades, but I personally hope for a product that is more inclusive for all gamers.

As for me posting here, pls use the Ignore function as some have suggested; no plans to leave.

[chance52]

Thanks - yeah, I should have specified that I was talking about the Redkit, or whatever it's called.

 

I've been hiding from this thread mostly because it's full of spoilers and I'm still playing through the series, on TW2. I haven't gotten TW3 yet and was thinking I'd do it once the mod scene cracked open a little bit.

 

That seems like potentially an awfully long time for them to wait though.

 

Yeah they said it will come out a lot sooner than the first redkit but then they also said their order of priority for content release is DLC, then RedKit2. The 2nd expansion is supposed to be out early next year so I really hope they mean the redkit comes after this free DLC ends (next week? They only have 3 left) and not after the 2 expansions.  But no exact date has been given yet.

[Tonio545]

Am not intending to bash TW3; many presume this as my intent. What I do mean to state is that TW3 would be a better game for me with a Pause feature, so that I could actually play it, and restrict the objectionable materials placed in the content. I hope for the sake of CDPR that they receive accolades, but I personally hope for a product that is more inclusive for all gamers.

As for me posting here, pls use the Ignore function as some have suggested; no plans to leave.

 

Its not really the type of combat that needs a pause function i wouldn't think supposed to be pretty fast paced not tactical, if you have a physical problem i would say put it to easy you could generally press once and the enemy would die outside of bosses. Objectionable content as in what? Sex/swearing/general bleak shitty world? It would be an entirely different atmosphere without it and not for the better, look at inquisitions that tell's instead of shows, they dont put it on show but its there its not a design choice its in the source material. You said yourself you have only seen the trailers they are going to push that to the front to sell the experience. Can i ask why you find it objectionable? It is only a game after all it doesn't glorify it i cant imagine being personally offended by anything but i suppose thats in the eye of the beholder.

 

As to putting you on ignore the point of a feedback thread isn't to have a circlejerk you need opposing opinions, i do personally wish you would at least attempt the game first without any notion of what to expect from sale materials only you are posting from a position of ignorance. Several people have already said they have been surprised to have there own preconceived notions quashed by experiencing it themselfs, especially about a single pre written protagonist.

[HowlingSiren]

Thanks - yeah, I should have specified that I was talking about the Redkit, or whatever it's called.

 

I've been hiding from this thread mostly because it's full of spoilers and I'm still playing through the series, on TW2. I haven't gotten TW3 yet and was thinking I'd do it once the mod scene cracked open a little bit.

 

That seems like potentially an awfully long time for them to wait though.

Considering how often mods are broken by patches and new content, and because the toolkit is only useful to PC players, I get why they are leaving it for last. I'd also add that IMHO the game does not really need any mods. Unlike DAI where I was wishing for tactics/tac-cam/hold/banter triggers/hair-eyebrow-PJ mods throughout my playthroughs, I didn't miss mods during my TW3 playthroughs, except for a mod that sorts inventory by weight. I'm just looking forward to new content and ideas from the modders to bring some variety to future playthroughs, but the vanilla game is stellar just as it is, so I wouldn't wait for mods if I were you. 

[Elhanan]

Considering how often mods are broken by patches and new content, and because the toolkit is only useful to PC players, I get why they are leaving it for last. I'd also add that IMHO the game does not really need any mods. Unlike DAI where I was wishing for tactics/tac-cam/hold/banter triggers/hair-eyebrow-PJ mods throughout my playthroughs, I didn't miss mods during my TW3 playthroughs, except for a mod that sorts inventory by weight. I'm just looking forward to new content and ideas from the modders to bring some variety to future playthroughs, but the vanilla game is stellar just as it is, so I wouldn't wait for mods if I were you.

Gopher mentioned that he might be looking at an iHUD mod (see Skyrim mods) for TW3; a way to hide most gameplay HUD and allow the Player to see things like the character.

[Gileadan]

I love the new DLC for this week. The alternative outfit for Ciri is freaking awesome and the title of the new quest, "Where the cat and wolf play...." is intriguing. For some reason, Ciri's outfit is saying Unavailable to me, but I can download the quest. I hope it gets resolved soon because my Ciri needs that armor. Like, now. Right, now.

It seems Ciri's armor isn't coming out just yet, because on Galaxy they stated there would be only one DLC this week.

The DLC quest, "Where the Cat and Wolf play" is rather short... but I loved the dialogue. Very much worth the time.

[FKA_Servo]

Considering how often mods are broken by patches and new content, and because the toolkit is only useful to PC players, I get why they are leaving it for last. I'd also add that IMHO the game does not really need any mods. Unlike DAI where I was wishing for tactics/tac-cam/hold/banter triggers/hair-eyebrow-PJ mods throughout my playthroughs, I didn't miss mods during my TW3 playthroughs, except for a mod that sorts inventory by weight. I'm just looking forward to new content and ideas from the modders to bring some variety to future playthroughs, but the vanilla game is stellar just as it is, so I wouldn't wait for mods if I were you. 

 

Yep. I'm very much looking forward to the game, but if I can mod out the equipment degradation I've been hearing about, I'd be happy. That mechanic is universally irritating enough that I don't really feel the need for it to be part of my vanilla experience.

[Dread-Reaper]

Yep. I'm very much looking forward to the game, but if I can mod out the equipment degradation I've been hearing about, I'd be happy. That mechanic is universally irritating enough that I don't really feel the need for it to be part of my vanilla experience.

The equipment degradation isn't even worth modding out anymore. Once people realized that exploring and doing treasure hunts netted you better gear, no one had a problem. Even if treasuring hunting doesn't get you better weapons/armours, they can still be sold for plenty of coin.

 

I actually liked the equipment degradation and wished it was more expensive, after coming from TW1 and TW2 where was almost always broke, having 10k with nothing to spend it on is kind of annoying. Shame that stores sell almost no weapons/armour worth buying and it really sucks the crafting is so inexpensive.  

[FKA_Servo]

Seems like to date, the only games I've played that really do crafting justice have been MMOs.

 

I love the crafting system in DAI (technically speaking), but I sort of hate how much it trivializes the found loot. You don't need to wear a single non-crafted item after getting to Haven.

[Ashelsu]

I can understand having difficulties when connecting with set protagonist, esp. of another gender. In my case books helped a lot.

When I first tried to play Witcher 1 I did not like it at all. Geralt was boring to me, combat clumsy. Then read the books, fell in love with the universe (slavic mythology and folklore, yes, please!) and the characters. Geralt, Ciri, Yen and their friends and enemies made me care. I went all the way with them through the books and then through the games, and it was a wonderful journey with an ending that made me smile.

Spoiler

Just to think I could miss it makes me sad. I will definately replay Witcher 3 making other choices.

It doesn't mean I have absolutely no problems with W3. Some of them are small annoyances (auto-sheathing, no storage chest, inventory is a wild mess) which I hope will be addressed in future patches. Some are big - wtf moments with Sigi and Radko, aftermath of the game, and it felt like Reds went really wild with placing all this smugglers stuff on Skellige.

But overall it was a very positive experience.

Things that I liked in W3 more than in DAI.
1. Athmosphere of a very alive world reacting to your actions and having a lot of interesting things to do: hunting monsters, taking part in scenic perfomances and tribal rituals, playing cards, exploring.
2. Sidequests - a lot was said about them already (different choices, moral dilemmas, interesting twists, consequences and connection to the world).
3. Novigrad - a big town filled with different activities. V-R was... just 2 screens.
4. Mount is useful (horseback combat, terrain is horse-friendly and our horse has a name. I know it's a tiniest thing, but we could name our mabari in previous DA games, why not a horse?)
5. Music. Beautiful, with national color (slavic and gaelic) used not only in the cutscenes but also while exploring and during combat. I think the deliberate decision to make DAI music only sound for 5 seconds was unfortunate.
6. Hair. Not only the quality of textures, but hairstyles themselves. I liked medieval aesthetics, not a fan of DAI bald and shaved, too modern.

[HowlingSiren]

Yep. I'm very much looking forward to the game, but if I can mod out the equipment degradation I've been hearing about, I'd be happy. That mechanic is universally irritating enough that I don't really feel the need for it to be part of my vanilla experience.

Fair enough. Didn't bother me as I had plenty of armor/weapon repair kits available, and I thought it actually added a nice level of challenge in the early game when you're low on cash and wondering whether it's worth spending the coin repairing your equipment or going on a treasure hunt instead to find better gear. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Roughly 150 hours into my first playthrough of The Witcher 3 and I find myself continually amazed by how much depth there is to the game compared to DA:I. Not only is the world more alive and less artificial, but a single sidequest in The Witcher 3 is comparable in depth and quality to your average MAIN quest in DA:I.

[KBomb]

Fair enough. Didn't bother me as I had plenty of armor/weapon repair kits available, and I thought it actually added a nice level of challenge in the early game when you're low on cash and wondering whether it's worth spending the coin repairing your equipment or going on a treasure hunt instead to find better gear. 

I actually thought I'd hate the weapon degradation and was outspoken of my dislike, but I found once you get into the game, repair kits are not hard to come by and as my level grew, I found master kits more often. I also found it didn't really bother me because fast travel made it possible to zip to a smith or armorer if needed. I don't even pay attention to it now. 

 

The only real issue is storage, but it seems CDPR will remedy that soon. This game keeps getting shinier and shinier. 

[Tonio545]

With how much money you actually make degredation aint a big problem, can repair cheaply everytime you see a blacksmith. Anyone using UCROSS mod? Not only is combat been balanced but Gwent is so much better, monster/scoatael been buffed whereas northern kingdoms has been nerfed. Spies are also hero cards now so you cant abuse them with decoys, and special abilities have been changed on a lot pf the cards - like Roche summoning Ves, or Triss having scorch, pretty much had to remake the whole deck.

[Elhanan]

Its not really the type of combat that needs a pause function i wouldn't think supposed to be pretty fast paced not tactical, if you have a physical problem i would say put it to easy you could generally press once and the enemy would die outside of bosses. Objectionable content as in what? Sex/swearing/general bleak shitty world? It would be an entirely different atmosphere without it and not for the better, look at inquisitions that tell's instead of shows, they dont put it on show but its there its not a design choice its in the source material. You said yourself you have only seen the trailers they are going to push that to the front to sell the experience. Can i ask why you find it objectionable? It is only a game after all it doesn't glorify it i cant imagine being personally offended by anything but i suppose thats in the eye of the beholder.
 
As to putting you on ignore the point of a feedback thread isn't to have a circlejerk you need opposing opinions, i do personally wish you would at least attempt the game first without any notion of what to expect from sale materials only you are posting from a position of ignorance. Several people have already said they have been surprised to have there own preconceived notions quashed by experiencing it themselfs, especially about a single pre written protagonist.

As some here are aware, I have physical disabilities atop of poor Eye-Hand reflexes. I generally only play cRPG's as a genre because of this; XCOM is an exception, but it has turn based combat. Because of this, a Pause feature is generally required to play games, which ironically reportedly did exist in the first Witcher game; deleted after that one.

Objectionable content as listed in the ESRB ratings, and promoted in the trailers; also seen in a few reviews of the game. Nothing of this is ill conceived, as I really wanted to play this title while waiting for SkyWind. Sadly, I choose to place TW3 aside, and hope that future titles improve for myself and others with sim complaints.

Again, while I like pizza, I hate anchovies, and when I know the meal has those little hidden salt tablets of death lurking beneath the cheese, it is best if I skip the dish as I already know it is not for me.

[KBomb]

As some here are aware, I have physical disabilities atop of poor Eye-Hand reflexes. I generally only play cRPG's as a genre because of this; XCOM is an exception, but it has turn based combat. Because of this, a Pause feature is generally required to play games, which ironically reportedly did exist in the first Witcher game; deleted after that one.

Objectionable content as listed in the ESRB ratings, and promoted in the trailers; also seen in a few reviews of the game. Nothing of this is ill conceived, as I really wanted to play this title while waiting for SkyWind. Sadly, I choose to place TW3 aside, and hope that future titles improve for myself and others with sim complaints.

Again, while I like pizza, I hate anchovies, and when I know the meal has those little hidden salt tablets of death lurking beneath the cheese, it is best if I skip the dish as I already know it is not for me.

I get that this game isn't accommodating to your disability. Being deaf, I run into obstacles a lot in social situations and there are some things I just have to back out of or not attend due to it. I think most people can understand that and aren't questioning that.

 

Most people are questioning your dedication to discussing various topics of TW3 when you've stated that you won't play it. You're spending a lot of time on something you don't enjoy/like and that raises some eyebrows. You hate anchovies, yet it's like you're going around licking them just so you can tell people how you don't like them.

[Elhanan]

I get that this game isn't accommodating to your disability. Being deaf, I run into obstacles a lot in social situations and there are some things I just have to back out of or not attend due to it. I think most people can understand that and aren't questioning that.
 
Most people are questioning your dedication to discussing various topics of TW3 when you've stated that you won't play it. You're spending a lot of time on something you don't enjoy/like and that raises some eyebrows. You hate anchovies, yet it's like you're going around licking them just so you can tell people how you don't like them.

No; have not tested the game myself at all. Have watched Gopher and a few others test it; a source of some of the info I have gathered besides others. But if there was a game appearing that promoted auditory clues, I would ponder if you would not say a little something due to your own insights.

It is really that simple; there is content included and mechanics excluded in TW3 that I prefer not to see made in the DA series, and that is the purpose of this thread.