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[Xetykins]

I get that this game isn't accommodating to your disability. Being deaf, I run into obstacles a lot in social situations and there are some things I just have to back out of or not attend due to it. I think most people can understand that and aren't questioning that.
 
Most people are questioning your dedication to discussing various topics of TW3 when you've stated that you won't play it. You're spending a lot of time on something you don't enjoy/like and that raises some eyebrows. You hate anchovies, yet it's like you're going around licking them just so you can tell people how you don't like them.

Sad thing is his constant snarky comments whenever anyone compliments tw3 or when anyone criticises dai, has absolutely nothing to do with his disability that rendered him unable to play the game. At least he's probably licked anchovies and decided he did not like it. In this case, he took one look at it and decided to tell everyone who listens of how putrid it was.

[Torgette]

With how much money you actually make degredation aint a big problem, can repair cheaply everytime you see a blacksmith.

 

It is a pretty pointless feature though, in the beginning you spend most of your money repairing items, by the time you clear half of velen you have more than enough money that repairing is no longer an issue and there's loads of blacksmiths and available repair kits. So it's something that mostly is just an annoyance early on and meaningless later, and never at any point does it really affect combat. Just seems pointless even if it isn't an issue later on.

[Elhanan]

Not quite; have seen anchovies in other games, and am fairly certain I have not altered my view since then. When the label states there will be anchovies in the next game, an informed consumer is likely to pass rather than waste the funds.

And I am not saying that TW3 is putrid, but some of the content is, and it is difficult to remove and leave only the good stuff.

[KBomb]

No; have not tested the game myself at all. Have watched Gopher and a few others test it; a source of some of the info I have gathered besides others. But if there was a game appearing that promoted auditory clues, I would ponder if you would not say a little something due to your own insights.

It is really that simple; there is content included and mechanics excluded in TW3 that I prefer not to see made in the DA series, and that is the purpose of this thread.

I wasn't born deaf, I started going deaf when I was about ten years old and into my twenties, it onset rapidly. So, most of my childhood and twenties have been muted in some form. I have had a multitude of missed opportunities. I had one theater in my town and one drive in-- neither of which offered a closed caption device. Loads of movies, music and video games were restricted to me and I would watch them in silence. Loads of video games, even in today's market is not made for deaf or hard of hearing persons. Even if they have subtitles, those do very little with ambient banter or puzzles and missions that require you to hear. I love the horror genre and a lot of those games rely on being able to hear.

It sucks and yes, I may say things like, "I wish gaming developers would be more conscience of my situation! Deaf people want to game, too!" I remember when DA2 came out and te font was so tiny, I wrote to one of the developers(can't remember who) and explained that in the future, they may wish to considered how to be more aware of people with physical obstacles or disabilities. I work with teens who have neurological disorders. So, yes. I understand it and I know how important feedback and insight can be and I 100% support you writing CDPR and sharing your situation with them. In fact, I urge you to do so.

However, and I am saying this with kindness-- you need to understand that no one here is asking for anything that would make it hard for you to game and so if Bioware adds the pre-fight tactical system like TW3, it won't be because of this thread. And you have certainly made your position known. At this point, it seems as if you're waiting for someone to respond with accolades for TW3, just so you can downgrade it. Offering insight and brandishing opinions like sledgehammers are two different things. Sorry for the long reply.

[midnight tea]

It is a pretty pointless feature though, in the beginning you spend most of your money repairing items, by the time you clear half of velen you have more than enough money that repairing is no longer an issue and there's loads of blacksmiths and available repair kits. So it's something that mostly is just an annoyance early on and meaningless later, and never at any point does it really affect combat. Just seems pointless even if it isn't an issue later on.

 

I'm mostly annoyed by the fact that I have to go to the inventory again, search for the repair kit and apply it. It's no different than DAI's loot animation - may not be as bothersome in small doses, but travel to inventory too many times and it just becomes too much of a busywork (especially that we have to visit inventory frequently - be it to switch potions or read another text to further quests, aside from repairing gear).

Makes me wish there was Skyrim's hotkey menu. That thing was a blessing and I'd be happy to see it in every RPG I play (just like the sellable Junk/Valuables menu).

[Eelectrica]

One thing I wish was in both games was the ability to leave custom notes on the maps.

I like leaving notes if there's something I want to come back to later, or even a here there be dragons type message if I find something that's too tough.

 

PoE has a custom note feature, and I use it all the time.

[Elhanan]

I wasn't born deaf, I started going deaf when I was about ten years old and into my twenties, it onset rapidly. So, most of my childhood and twenties have been muted in some form. I have had a multitude of missed opportunities. I had one theater in my town and one drive in-- neither of which offered a closed caption device. Loads of movies, music and video games were restricted to me and I would watch them in silence. Loads of video games, even in today's market is not made for deaf or hard of hearing persons. Even if they have subtitles, those do very little with ambient banter or puzzles and missions that require you to hear. I love the horror genre and a lot of those games rely on being able to hear.

It sucks and yes, I may say things like, "I wish gaming developers would be more conscience of my situation! Deaf people want to game, too!" I remember when DA2 came out and te font was so tiny, I wrote to one of the developers(can't remember who) and explained that in the future, they may wish to considered how to be more aware of people with physical obstacles or disabilities. I work with teens who have neurological disorders. So, yes. I understand it and I know how important feedback and insight can be and I 100% support you writing CDPR and sharing your situation with them. In fact, I urge you to do so.

However, and I am saying this with kindness-- you need to understand that no one here is asking for anything that would make it hard for you to game and so if Bioware adds the pre-fight tactical system like TW3, it won't be because of this thread. And you have certainly made your position known. At this point, it seems as if you're waiting for someone to respond with accolades for TW3, just so you can downgrade it. Offering insight and brandishing opinions like sledgehammers are two different things. Sorry for the long reply.

Appreciate the thoughts, but I do not recall diminishing accolades in TW3 apart from those of things that I don't wish to see repeated in DA. For instance, there has been a lengthy bit of time spent here on the Bioware boards waiting for fewer cut-scenes. So while I am for improving quests, adding more of these is not a method I support. And I believe I have the right to do so here.

[chance52]

Appreciate the thoughts, but I do not recall diminishing accolades in TW3 apart from those of things that I don't wish to see repeated in DA. For instance, there has been a lengthy bit of time spent here on the Bioware boards waiting for fewer cut-scenes. So while I am for improving quests, adding more of these is not a method I support. And I believe I have the right to do so here.

 

Right. Saying TW3 (a game you never played and never will) is like a rabid dog, putrid sauce and a hidden salty tablet of death certainly isnt diminishing anything... You are contributing nothing to the conversation. Yes its your right to derail a thread, and it's everyone elses right to not like a troll posting. 

[AmberDragon]

I wasn't born deaf, I started going deaf when I was about ten years old and into my twenties, it onset rapidly. So, most of my childhood and twenties have been muted in some form. I have had a multitude of missed opportunities. I had one theater in my town and one drive in-- neither of which offered a closed caption device. Loads of movies, music and video games were restricted to me and I would watch them in silence. Loads of video games, even in today's market is not made for deaf or hard of hearing persons. Even if they have subtitles, those do very little with ambient banter or puzzles and missions that require you to hear. I love the horror genre and a lot of those games rely on being able to hear.

 

It sucks and yes, I may say things like, "I wish gaming developers would be more conscience of my situation! Deaf people want to game, too!" I remember when DA2 came out and te font was so tiny, I wrote to one of the developers(can't remember who) and explained that in the future, they may wish to considered how to be more aware of people with physical obstacles or disabilities. I work with teens who have neurological disorders. So, yes. I understand it and I know how important feedback and insight can be and I 100% support you writing CDPR and sharing your situation with them. In fact, I urge you to do so.

However, and I am saying this with kindness-- you need to understand that no one here is asking for anything that would make it hard for you to game and so if Bioware adds the pre-fight tactical system like TW3, it won't be because of this thread. And you have certainly made your position known. At this point, it seems as if you're waiting for someone to respond with accolades for TW3, just so you can downgrade it. Offering insight and brandishing opinions like sledgehammers are two different things. Sorry for the long reply.

Give up KBomb he is only going to keep on ad nauseum about the exact same stuff as if he feels he needs the attention every few pages. Just block him in the end he will have no one to speak to, or report him for trying to derail the thread. He has stated his position over wnd over and over and over and over to infinity, ad nauseum as if he thinks everyone including the Bioware devs are blind and have missed his statements. No one has asked for anything he has specified he can't deal with and his garbage about cut scenes is just that, garbage, it shows his ignorance of the game and the fact cut scenes can be skipped with the touch of a button, it really is that simple.

 

As for the disability, I have chronic osteo-arthritis in all my joints, so bad in my fingers that I had to stop using KBM and switch to a controller over a decade ago, much easier to use a controller, I have trouble with some games even so, but you know what unlike one person in this thread I don't go around slamming games I can't play or don't wish to play. Have better things to do and games I can and do enjoy playing, especially as I have cancer too, life is too short to waste time complaining about games I can't or don't want to play.

[Elhanan]

Right. Saying TW3 (a game you never played and never will) is like a rabid dog, putrid sauce and a hidden salty tablet of death certainly isnt diminishing anything... You are contributing nothing to the conversation. Yes its your right to derail a thread, and it's everyone elses right to not like a troll posting.

Nice lifting from context, as putrid sauce was the objectionable content, and the fine meal was the game; same with anchovies, and the dog was illustration that one did not have to purchase to know it was not good for them. But thanks for playing....

[Torgette]

I'm mostly annoyed by the fact that I have to go to the inventory again, search for the repair kit and apply it. It's no different than DAI's loot animation - may not be as bothersome in small doses, but travel to inventory too many times and it just becomes too much of a busywork (especially that we have to visit inventory frequently - be it to switch potions or read another text to further quests, aside from repairing gear).

Makes me wish there was Skyrim's hotkey menu. That thing was a blessing and I'd be happy to see it in every RPG I play (just like the sellable Junk/Valuables menu).

 

A quick select item menu would've been nice.

[panzerwzh]

Right. Saying TW3 (a game you never played and never will) is like a rabid dog, putrid sauce and a hidden salty tablet of death certainly isnt diminishing anything... You are contributing nothing to the conversation. Yes its your right to derail a thread, and it's everyone elses right to not like a troll posting.

Second it!

[KBomb]

Appreciate the thoughts, but I do not recall diminishing accolades in TW3 apart from those of things that I don't wish to see repeated in DA. For instance, there has been a lengthy bit of time spent here on the Bioware boards waiting for fewer cut-scenes. So while I am for improving quests, adding more of these is not a method I support. And I believe I have the right to do so here.

Of course you have the right to reply in this thread--I just wonder why you'd wish to. A lot of your posts haven't been about certain things you don't want in future DA games, but to point out the reasons you won't play TW3 or how you find it profane. I remember a lot of replies (many to me) in which I stated a reason I liked a certain feature in TW3, only for you to point out how DAI has the same feature or circumstance, when it clearly wasn't the same. Again, your right to do so, but it just makes me question the effort and time you place on it. Maybe because if I am in knowledge of a game that I know I won't play, I just move on. Why waste energy and time on something that isn't going to actually take up and energy or time. We'll drop it though and let it remain with the other unknown mysteries of the world.

 

One thing I wish was in both games was the ability to leave custom notes on the maps.

I like leaving notes if there's something I want to come back to later, or even a here there be dragons type message if I find something that's too tough.

 

PoE has a custom note feature, and I use it all the time.

I have an app on my phone that has this feature for Skyrim. It comes in handy. I write down mask locations, locations of followers, dragons, etc. I have a pretty decent memory for locations, but it's a nice go-to when needed. 

 

*snip*

 

As for the disability, I have chronic osteo-arthritis in all my joints, so bad in my fingers that I had to stop using KBM and switch to a controller over a decade ago, much easier to use a controller, I have trouble with some games even so, but you know what unlike one person in this thread I don't go around slamming games I can't play or don't wish to play. Have better things to do and games I can and do enjoy playing, especially as I have cancer too, life is too short to waste time complaining about games I can't or don't want to play.

Sorry about all your health troubles. Sounds like you have a full plate. Seems like I read an article once that talked about a company that was going to develop controllers for people who had issues with their hands. I wish I could remember where I read it. I broke a finger a couple of years ago and it was quite a chore to game (not to imply that a broken finger is akin to osteo-arthritis, but I can understand somewhat about the frustration)

 

How is it for you in places in games where you have to constantly hold down a button, for example horse riding, running, etc? Can't imagine that is a walk in the park. 

 

On topic: Something else that impresses me is the detail they put into social classes. The peasants really look like a lower class to the nobles. Dirty, torn clothes, dirty bodies, crooked and rotting teeth and poor verbal skills and speech. Once more, the devil is in the details and CDPR really went the distance in defining their game and giving it a personality. Everytime I play, there is something else that stands out to me.

[Elhanan]

Of course you have the right to reply in this thread--I just wonder why you'd wish to. A lot of your posts haven't been about certain things you don't want in future DA games, but to point out the reasons you won't play TW3 or how you find it profane. I remember a lot of replies (many to me) in which I stated a reason I liked a certain feature in TW3, only for you to point out how DAI has the same feature or circumstance, when it clearly wasn't the same. Again, your right to do so, but it just makes me question the effort and time you place on it. Maybe because if I am in knowledge of a game that I know I won't play, I just move on. Why waste energy and time on something that isn't going to actually take up and energy or time. We'll drop it though and let it remain with the other unknown mysteries of the world. ...

Actually do not recall saying anything specific about the ESRB content for some time; again folks reading into the text instead of gathering from it. And if I have reminded anyone that DAI has the same or similar content described in another game; Spoon!

What I find curious are the numbers of those that monitor my posts to try and dismiss them in some fashion. Either Ignore me, or move along would seem to make more sense, but then again, am not a professional....

[KBomb]

Actually do not recall saying anything specific about the ESRB content for some time; again folks reading into the text instead of gathering from it. And if I have reminded anyone that DAI has the same or similar content described in another game; Spoon!

What I find curious are the numbers of those that monitor my posts to try and dismiss them in some fashion. Either Ignore me, or move along would seem to make more sense, but then again, am not a professional....

I don't know what you mean by professional.

[GGGenesis]

You know...there are video games out there glorifying sexual violence or female objectification (that horrible bikie game). Get outraged at those, not a game you can't play. My husband lost his ability to walk after serving in the Middle East. Should he get mad at football and signs that say "please stand in line" because he can't use his legs? That's how dumb the argument is. I too have a disability but the most insulting and trivialising thing you can do to yourself and other disability sufferers is using your disability as an excuse or shield to demand privilege while you hate on the game for not considering you. There are hundreds of others to play. Go play turn based jrpgs or whatever. There's a game out there for everyone.

[correctamundo]

It is a pretty pointless feature though, in the beginning you spend most of your money repairing items, by the time you clear half of velen you have more than enough money that repairing is no longer an issue and there's loads of blacksmiths and available repair kits. So it's something that mostly is just an annoyance early on and meaningless later, and never at any point does it really affect combat. Just seems pointless even if it isn't an issue later on.

 

Yeah, it is a flavour feature. Hailed by some for being "old school" and immersive. In reality it has very little bearing on the game mechanics but more beqring on world immersion. However since it annoys part of the player base it would be nice with some sort of toggle. I am not annoyed by it but on the other hand it really doesn't give me much in the immerion either. I am constantly running to the smiths for other reasons anyway.

[Elhanan]

You know...there are video games out there glorifying sexual violence or female objectification (that horrible bikie game). Get outraged at those, not a game you can't play. My husband lost his ability to walk after serving in the Middle East. Should he get mad at football and signs that say "please stand in line" because he can't use his legs? That's how dumb the argument is. I too have a disability but the most insulting and trivialising thing you can do to yourself and other disability sufferers is using your disability as an excuse or shield to demand privilege while you hate on the game for not considering you. There are hundreds of others to play. Go play turn based jrpgs or whatever. There's a game out there for everyone.

Then maybe this needs to be clarified a tad more: I ain't outraged; disappointed is a better term.

TW3 is a beautifully craf6ted Open World title, but was made without the function needed to play it. Thus, I encourage titles to add such a function, and questioned and lobbied for this before launch. No such luck. In addition, even if the title were to be modded or patched to include Pause, there is too much unavoidable content of an objectionable nature that I would not enjoy the world anyway.

Motivationally, this is not about my disabilities; have always had poor Twitch skills. This is about not being able to play a cRPG because of a lack of a mechanic, and the decision to include offensive content that I do not wish to see added to other games. And this topic is about what should be more like TW3, and as a pleased Player of DAI, I include my opinions.

For any others wishing to pass judgment on myself, high horses are stabled to the rear....

[GGGenesis]

Then maybe this needs to be clarified a tad more: I ain't outraged; disappointed is a better term.

TW3 is a beautifully craf6ted Open World title, but was made without the function needed to play it. Thus, I encourage titles to add such a function, and questioned and lobbied for this before launch. No such luck. In addition, even if the title were to be modded or patched to include Pause, there is too much unavoidable content of an objectionable nature that I would not enjoy the world anyway.

Motivationally, this is not about my disabilities; have always had poor Twitch skills. This is about not being able to play a cRPG because of a lack of a mechanics, and the decision to include offensive content that I do not wish to see added to other games. And this topic is about what should be more like TW3, and as a pleased Player of DAI, I include my opinions.

For any others wishing to pass judgment on myself, high horses are stabled to the rear....

Now when worded like that, your statements are much more reasonable. When disagreements derail sometimes heightened emotion fudges what you mean. Thanks for coming back to clarify. I think a lot of people got confused and took your personal preference as more like a justification for Witcher sucking. Hope others see what you actually meant (it's the internet, meanings sometimes get lost). 

[SnakeCode]

Then maybe this needs to be clarified a tad more: I ain't outraged; disappointed is a better term.

TW3 is a beautifully craf6ted Open World title, but was made without the function needed to play it. Thus, I encourage titles to add such a function, and questioned and lobbied for this before launch. No such luck. In addition, even if the title were to be modded or patched to include Pause, there is too much unavoidable content of an objectionable nature that I would not enjoy the world anyway.

Motivationally, this is not about my disabilities; have always had poor Twitch skills. This is about not being able to play a cRPG because of a lack of a mechanic, and the decision to include offensive content that I do not wish to see added to other games. And this topic is about what should be more like TW3, and as a pleased Player of DAI, I include my opinions.

For any others wishing to pass judgment on myself, high horses are stabled to the rear....

 

The thing is, you've been espousing that same opinion for a good 200 pages now. I think everyone, including Bioware if they truly read these threads, has got the message by now.

[Elhanan]

Now when worded like that, your statements are much more reasonable. When disagreements derail sometimes heightened emotion fudges what you mean. Thanks for coming back to clarify. I think a lot of people got confused and took your personal preference as more like a justification for Witcher sucking. Hope others see what you actually meant (it's the internet, meanings sometimes get lost).

Thanks, but see this more as folks seeing what others are saying about my posts as facts, and not actually seeing what was posted originally. It reminds me of the grapevine scene in Johnny Dangerously. This is one reason I mention context so frequently.

[Elhanan]

The thing is, you've been espousing that same opinion for a good 200 pages now. I think everyone, including Bioware if they truly read these threads, has got the message by now.

And evidently, some are not getting it, so if at first one does not succeed....

[9TailsFox]

And evidently, some are not getting it, so if at first one does not succeed....

Yes we do "DA is best game ever maid. And I didn't play Witcher and never will because it is very bad game."

[TheOgre]

I don't think Bioware will turn around and say they need to add a lot more swear words because it's the cool thing to do.

 

What I want them to do is more of Emprise Du Lion, Adamant, Temple of Mythal, some other places I'm forgetting. 

 

With the blight possibly making a return in DA4, POSSIBLY, they can easily use some elements form DAI and good elements from DAO to combine into a great DA4.

 

I'm repeating this again and again, more emphasis on side quests and less 'moarrr power'' villains. 

[SnakeCode]

And evidently, some are not getting it, so if at first one does not succeed....

 

Except they are getting it. You don't want games to have the player rely on twitch reflexes, due to your disability, you would rather they added a pause option. You don't want what you consider to be distasteful content, such as sex and profanity included, and would like devs to focus on content you don't find objectionable.

 

Your stance really isn't hard to understand, I think you're getting backlash not because people are misinterpreting what you're saying, but due to the frequency in which you say it. You made these points early on in the thread, and have continued to do so on every other page for 200+ pages, ad nauseam. Every time the conversation takes a different direction, you come in and make the same points and direct the conversation back to you, which is why you have had accusations of derailment.

 

So again, people aren't getting angry because they're not understanding your points, they're just tired because they got them the first time you made them, yet you continue to repeat them over, and over, and over again.