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[Torgette]

God forbid but TW3 is far from perfect especially gameplay wise.CPR did a good job with characters and story, presentation but the gameplay is almost as bad as in the witcher 2.Both games have ups and downs.

 

The cutscenes and story are definitely the highlight of TW3, compiling this thread it's interesting to note how many discussions centered around disappointment in DAI's storytelling vs. other possible subjects. As far as my own experience with TW3 goes, it's an improvement over TW2 in that it's easier to win, you can easily cheese your way through enemies a dozen levels higher than yourself and crowd management is easier thanks to less aggressive AI. I think being unoffensive and lore-driven is enough for people to give it a pass, especially in the context of an open world game where combat is usually not as detrimental to your experience (you can always skip fights in open world games).

[Xetykins]

There are so many emotional moments in TW3 and I agree Bioware used to do that well but for me they failed in DAI I can't remember any scenes that affected me as much as those in TW3.

I am not sure how far you are into the game so I don't want to spoil it for you,

Oh Im not thay far I don't think. Only just met with Baron's daughter. Too busy loosing in bloody Gwent but I can't stop! Good thing I don't gamble irl. The only card game I play was Solitair :-p

So other than hopping in to complain about unrelated crap, I've mostly been avoiding this thread since it's full of spoilers, and I was pretty certain that I would to play TW3. At the moment, I'm comfortably in the middle of TW2, and I have to say... I'm pretty goddamn impressed. To the extent that I can't actually believe that the first one was made by the same developer. It's very, very good. If TW3 is half as expansive as it seems from the conversation here, I'm pretty psyched to finally hit it.

Though I actually like Triss' old actor a lot better, though. Shoulda kept her around.

But yeah. Didn't know what I was missing, apparently.

Welcome to the converted corner. Blame this thread 100%

[line_genrou]

So other than hopping in to complain about unrelated crap, I've mostly been avoiding this thread since it's full of spoilers, and I was pretty certain that I would to play TW3. At the moment, I'm comfortably in the middle of TW2, and I have to say... I'm pretty goddamn impressed. To the extent that I can't actually believe that the first one was made by the same developer. It's very, very good. If TW3 is half as expansive as it seems from the conversation here, I'm pretty psyched to finally hit it.

 

Though I actually like Triss' old actor a lot better, though. Shoulda kept her around.

 

But yeah. Didn't know what I was missing, apparently.

 

What? Actually the first Witcher is amazing considering the whole development process. It was a very ambitious project, the first game from CDPR and they did AMAZING. I had more fun with W1 than with W2.

Actually, replaying W2 now after finishing W3, I can't get past the combat system.

[JezrelM]

Details, an choices thats its what matters in W3, one quest that blows my mind, of many in the game, was the one whit the serial killer:

Spoiler

My fisrt play i get to the point where you find the "culprit" torturing a prostitute, i get so mad at this, and that the bastard have keep me chassing him a long road that i kill him rigth there, the game marks completed quest and i go on happy.

In my second playthrougth, i, beliving i know how it ends, ask the question "why you do this?" and booom the quest explode in my head, this guy was not the serial killer, it was a prostitute torture bastar sure, but not the killer i was looking, i was been decived all the way, and a lot of thing that keeps in my mind as questions got answered (like how the hell the killer was able to jump a 3 metters wall) i kill the bastard any way, and go after the true assasin.

[KBomb]

So other than hopping in to complain about unrelated crap, I've mostly been avoiding this thread since it's full of spoilers, and I was pretty certain that I would to play TW3. At the moment, I'm comfortably in the middle of TW2, and I have to say... I'm pretty goddamn impressed. To the extent that I can't actually believe that the first one was made by the same developer. It's very, very good. If TW3 is half as expansive as it seems from the conversation here, I'm pretty psyched to finally hit it.

Though I actually like Triss' old actor a lot better, though. Shoulda kept her around.

But yeah. Didn't know what I was missing, apparently.

I loved TW2, but in my opinion, it's pale in comparison to TW3. I will say this for CDPR, each game released has been improved upon and a lot of it was fan suggested. I hope you enjoy it!

[TheOgre]

I've seen some excited friends here spoil things I don't blame Tommy for avoiding the thread.

Each say I just put on my #backseat moderator hat and start either pm'ing the demonstration of how to spoiler in a not rude way or make a post if several people are doing it at the same time.

Vague information at best
[ spoiler] detailed information [ spoiler]
Ending text if any.

*bow*

[FKA_Servo]

What? Actually the first Witcher is amazing considering the whole development process. It was a very ambitious project, the first game from CDPR and they did AMAZING. I had more fun with W1 than with W2.

Actually, replaying W2 now after finishing W3, I can't get past the combat system.

 

Eesh. Sorry, but all I can say is that TW1 was for years the reason I hadn't played TW2 (and TW3 provided the inclination to actually soldier through it). I uninstalled it the moment I finally finished.

 

I can't imagine even enjoying the first game without an abiding love for (and familiarity with) the source material. I basically picked it back up the day after TW3 was released, and even burning through it with a strategy guide and some cheaty mods, it took me more than a month to actually finish it. The gameplay is night and day more fun in TW2, forget about the overall presentation. In my view, at any rate.

 

I loved TW2, but in my opinion, it's pale in comparison to TW3. I will say this for CDPR, each game released has been improved upon and a lot of it was fan suggested. I hope you enjoy it!

 

I'm not in any great hurry, still. As far as I'm concerned, I took a long time with the first one because it wasn't fun, but I suspect I'll keep myself busy with this one for awhile because I'm enjoying it enough that I actually want to explore the different outcomes.

[Kantr]

I love the support Witcher 3 is getting.

 

But, seriously, HOW MANY PATCHES WILL IT TAKE BEFORE I CAN SKIP THE (Seriously? I edited how the "u" in my "profane" word and you still edit it out?) DANDELION LOADING-SCREEN STORY RECAPS?

 

You prefer a black screen?

Dandelion is just telling in which part of the story you are WHILE the game is loading.

It's annoying and I dont want to hear him.

 

Thankfully there's a mod that cuts that out and sticks you straight to the loading screen.

[MoonDrummer]

I loved TW2, but in my opinion, it's pale in comparison to TW3. I will say this for CDPR, each game released has been improved upon and a lot of it was fan suggested. I hope you enjoy it!

I love the politics and factions in TW2, in that regard it blows the 3rd game out of the water. 

[line_genrou]

I guess I'm in the minority that loves W1 combat

[Elhanan]

I guess I'm in the minority that loves W1 combat

Would like to see a return of the Pause function that reportedly is in the first game.

[FKA_Servo]

Would like to see a return of the Pause function that reportedly is in the first game.

 

It doesn't really work like that, unfortunately. I tried playing it that way at times. While you can click on targets while the game is paused and the attack will execute, you sort of do need to move, aim, etc., while you're playing. It actually requires quite a bit of manual dexterity, at times.

 

I guess you could conceivably pause, click, unpause for every single attack, but if you did play the game that way... god, I can only imagine.

 

Mechanically, TW1 really might be the most tedious, least fun game I've ever actually played in my life though.

 

EDIT: Although, now that I think of it, you can play the first game isometrically. I didn't even touch that, I played OTS exclusively. So maybe it's more doable that way. I have to say that I think the direction they've taken the gameplay in TW2 (and TW3) is unambiguously the right one. I don't know how they'd make it work with pause or point and click, but I think it would suffer for it.

Modifié par TommyServo, 13 juillet 2015 - 08:40 .

[Elhanan]

It doesn't really work like that, unfortunately. I tried playing it that way at times. While you can click on targets while the game is paused and the attack will execute, you sort of do need to move, aim, etc., while you're playing. It actually requires quite a bit of manual dexterity, at times.
 
I guess you could conceivably pause, click, unpause for every single attack, but if you did play the game that way... god, I can only imagine.
 
Mechanically, TW1 really might be the most tedious, least fun game I've ever actually played in my life though.

As described, it resembles the gameplay for ME3 among others. What are the differences?

[FKA_Servo]

As described, it resembles the gameplay for ME3 among others. What are the differences?

 

I don't know. The perspective, I guess. In ME, you're mostly getting attacked from the front. And you're using guns and ranged attacks for the most part. Here, you have crowds of enemies directly around you, most of them require many hits to kill, some necessitate switching weapons (which is slow, slow slow). You could play it pause and click, it would just be more tedious, more boring, and in every way the opposite of fun.

 

I played ME on xbox though. The thought of playing ME without a gamepad makes me nauseous. So, as ever, YMM.

[Elhanan]

I don't know. The perspective, I guess. In ME, you're mostly getting attacked from the front. And you're using guns and ranged attacks for the most part. Here, you have crowds of enemies directly around you, most of them require many hits to kill, some necessitate switching weapons (which is slow, slow slow). You could play it pause and click, it would just be more tedious, more boring, and in every way the opposite of fun.
 
I played ME on xbox though. The thought of playing ME without a gamepad makes me nauseous. So, as ever, YMM.

Thanks! Would it be as tedious for TW3, as switching weapons and ranged attacks are supposedly included?

[FKA_Servo]

Thanks! Would it be as tedious for TW3, as switching weapons and ranged attacks are supposedly included?

 

I haven't played TW3 at all. But if it's like TW2, I think it flat out wouldn't work.

 

I think the distinction is that Mass Effect (and TW1, though even less so) tenuously support this playstyle. I can't imagine they were intended to play that way. I think they were primarily intended to be played as a shooter and an action game. Nevertheless, you can play with pause and targeting - it's not discouraged, and is quite possible, as you and other posters like Sylvius demonstrate.

 

The Witcher 2 is an action game. Weapon switching is there (and it feels great, and is very satisfying) but ranged attacks are still limited to throwing knives, bombs, a couple of spells, etc. I don't think you could accommodate that playstyle without changing it (probably for the worse, for the action gameplay), and I wouldn't want them to do it.

[line_genrou]

Thanks! Would it be as tedious for TW3, as switching weapons and ranged attacks are supposedly included?

 

lol Trust me, it's not tedious to switch weapons when you have a flying Wyvern coming into your direction

[line_genrou]

Would like to see a return of the Pause function that reportedly is in the first game.

 

It wouldn't work. In W1 you pause to change the style you're gonna play. If you want a group attack, fast attack our strong attack all based on the enemy you're facing.

It still an action-rpg, you don't pause to think of strategy, even though you need some strategy to face enemies, you just have to think fast or plan things out before.

 

W2 relied too much on rolling. You basicaly roll around the battlefield, and I usually have problems with any game that relies too much on rolling to avoid attacks. Thankfully they added dodge in W3 which makes the combat much more fluid. You just have to rely on timing now. Imo it's one of the best combat systems I've played yet.

[TheOgre]

There may be mods to help people I hope who do need the pause feature. There are people who have less than ideal manual dexterity that could really benefit from having something to assist with the nature of the combat. He isn't at all wrong in wanting it.

[line_genrou]

There may be mods to help people I hope who do need the pause feature. There are people who have less than ideal manual dexterity that could really benefit from having something to assist with the nature of the combat. He isn't at all wrong in wanting it.

 

Well if it is related to some disability I agree, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to want this because you like this in another game with a complete different combat

 

Anyway, you do have slow-mo when you bring up the wheel for the signs

[FKA_Servo]

There may be mods to help people I hope who do need the pause feature. There are people who have less than ideal manual dexterity that could really benefit from having something to assist with the nature of the combat. He isn't at all wrong in wanting it.

I hope I didn't imply that he was. I just don't think that inborn support work well in this case without drastically changing the gameplay. I don't know what will be possible with mods, but adding on a satisfying RTwP experience seems awfully ambitious.

I guess there's an argument to be made for "story mode" difficulty, or just flat out cheating (which is the only way I could have finished the first game) if you care to see some content but can't deal with the gameplay. I think all of us here are acutely aware that you can't please everyone.

[panzerwzh]

Details, an choices thats its what matters in W3, one quest that blows my mind, of many in the game, was the one whit the serial killer:

Spoiler

My fisrt play i get to the point where you find the "culprit" torturing a prostitute, i get so mad at this, and that the bastard have keep me chassing him a long road that i kill him rigth there, the game marks completed quest and i go on happy.
In my second playthrougth, i, beliving i know how it ends, ask the question "why you do this?" and booom the quest explode in my head, this guy was not the serial killer, it was a prostitute torture bastar sure, but not the killer i was looking, i was been decived all the way, and a lot of thing that keeps in my mind as questions got answered (like how the hell the killer was able to jump a 3 metters wall) i kill the bastard any way, and go after the true assasin.

Missed the really murder in my first runthrough as well. It is really hard to be a witcher without regret.

[Xetykins]

Im not ashamed to admit I'm playing W3 on story mode, as it's the most important thing for me. And I'm having a blast. I don't need to be super combat power. I suck bottom anyway because even with story mode I still die like.... a lot :-p Controls are still a bit wonky specially when i forget the danged keys.

[AmberDragon]

Im not ashamed to admit I'm playing W3 on story mode, as it's the most important thing for me. And I'm having a blast. I don't need to be super combat power. I suck bottom anyway because even with story mode I still die like.... a lot :-p Controls are still a bit wonky specially when i forget the danged keys.

I play on story mode too, mainly because even with a controller my fingers don't work quite fast enough, darned osteo-arthritis, but I manage fine with that and not died too often. I did try the next difficulty up and then I died a lot so dropped the level back to story...

[Lawrence0294]

I'm a sucker for painful challenges so started with the mode before the hardest. Planning on playing the hardest difficulty for my second play through.