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[Elhanan]

Like I said, no one said TW3 didn't have glitches, so why did you have to come here all snarky and make a post with pictures of a game you don't even play, therefore didn't even experience those bugs yourself? Of course people will get annoyed by that. Even though I had no problems with TW3, I know others did, but patches are coming out at the speed of light fixing these problems while improving other things, unlike DAI where the developers went on vacations when the game was just released, leaving many people with a broken game.
 
But well, I don't want to discuss this anymore, I just don't understand what you're still doing on this thread when you obviously will never play TW but still think it's inferior to DAI. If you don't have any useful feedback to contribute to the purpose of this thread why are you still here? You're trying to put down a game that you never played and that has done a lot of things right while defending DAI at every cost. It's starting to get a bit frustrating, we heard you the first time, you don't have to keep saying the same thing over and over again. There are so many threads out there to discuss the greatness of DAI, so why are you here?
 
And your point is...?

And again, TW3 may be as good or better then DAI; do not care as they are different games. TW3 is more of an Action title without Pause, and offers content that is objectionable, so I still take a pass.

Folks belittling DAI on this thread seemed to miss content, or are perhaps so biased that I offer my continuing insights and experiences to the game. This thread is after all about DAI on the DA forums; not a TW3 thread, as that can be found in OT. So if my responses annoy some, can live with it.

The point is that I can live with a single outfit for the ball and Skyhold in DAI; folks on TW3 can live with a single character.

[MoonDrummer]

And when I play the Inquisitor, I can choose from 2 genders, 4 voices and 4 races....

Seems like a wasted opportunity, they could have had elf, dwarf or Qunt themed outfits for the ball.  

[hoechlbear]

 

Folks belittling DAI on this thread seemed to miss content, or are perhaps so biased that I offer my continuing insights and experiences to the game. This thread is after all about DAI on the DA forums; not a TW3 thread, as that can be found in OT. So if my responses annoy some, can live with it.

The point is that I can live with a single outfit for the ball and Skyhold in DAI; folks on TW3 can live with a single character.

 

 

That can be said about you actually. You obviously can't stand when people don't share the same opinion as you when it comes to DAI and feel the need to defend it at every turn. You'll just have to deal with the fact that many people were disappointed with DAI, they have a right to show their disappointment. This thread is about what TW3 does better than DAI, it's all about opinions, sure, and you already gave yours. You don't like TW and love DAI, so why keep posting here? You'll never change anyone's opinion about DAI. People either enjoyed it or not.

 

And I couldn't care less about all the PC choices we get in DAI. I'd take a set PC like Geralt any day of the week if it means I'll get to experience such an amazing personal story like TW3. At least Geralt acts like a person with emotions and he has a personality and amazing chemistry with the other characters and NPCs. Just because you can choose who you want to be in DAI doesn't make it better than TW3. In my opinion, it's the opposite. Too many choices made all the Inquisitors bland and neutral because it has to fit all races and gender.

 

 

 

This guy can't be serious. Let's move on, people

 

Anyone knows when the new patch is going to be released?

 

Good idea. I don't even know why I bother... 

 

I read somewhere there's a new look for Ciri coming. Anyone knows when we'll be getting it? I'd love to have it for my second playthrough.

[line_genrou]

And again, TW3 may be as good or better then DAI; do not care as they are different games. TW3 is more of an Action title without Pause, and offers content that is objectionable, so I still take a pass.

Folks belittling DAI on this thread seemed to miss content, or are perhaps so biased that I offer my continuing insights and experiences to the game. This thread is after all about DAI on the DA forums; not a TW3 thread, as that can be found in OT. So if my responses annoy some, can live with it.

The point is that I can live with a single outfit for the ball and Skyhold in DAI; folks on TW3 can live with a single character.

 

Good for you, no one cares.

As for your responses, they only annoy people because they are silly. It's like you're a 12 year old fanboy defending something. "well, um, duh, at least my favorite thing has this and your doesn't boohoo"

[FKA_Servo]

And your point is...?

 

 

I think it's that this will continue to be a serious point in Bioware's favor, and something that I maintain would have benefited the witcher as well.

 

I understand why we're playing as Geralt specifically (he's the main character in the books, and that's what CDPR wanted to do. Whatever, fine). I can appreciate why this can't be adopted in the middle of the series. I understand why many players prefer a more predefined character - a stronger central personality can sometimes help in telling a tighter story, and I agree depending on the aim of the game. But I think that the ability to customize your protagonist in a game like this is nothing to scoff at, and is not in opposition to any of the above.

 

I don't see why we can't have a character with variable appearance and sex who is still predefined to the extent that Geralt is. This is the case in Mass Effect, it is the case in Dragon Age 2. I can think of other games where this is an option too, but they're less applicable to the subject than these. Eminently doable though. I'd like to see CDPR take this approach in future games, in TW's setting and elsewhere.

[Elhanan]

Seems like a wasted opportunity, they could have had elf, dwarf or Qunt themed outfits for the ball.

Not per David Gaider:

Q: Any chance of an Inquisition DLC with shiny dresses for the Ball or other Orlais scenes? Because I'll be honest, about half of the reason I was excited to hear that DAI had a ball in it was because I thought it meant I would get to see my lady Inquisitor kicking ass in a pretty dress.
•Anonymous

A: I know they wanted to get a “pick your outfit for the ball” feature in, but that was cut due to a number of difficulties (none of which I have enough knowledge of to comment on). Whether that will make its way into a DLC or something, I can’t really say — I can’t comment on unannounced projects at all, even as to their existence, so you’ll have to wait and see.

[hoechlbear]

I think it's that this will continue to be a serious point in Bioware's favor, and something that I maintain would have benefited the witcher as well.

 

I understand why we're playing as Geralt specifically (he's the main character in the books, and that's what CDPR wanted to do. Whatever, fine). I can appreciate why this can't be adopted in the middle of the series. I understand why many players prefer a more predefined character - a stronger central personality can sometimes help in telling a tighter story, and I agree depending on the aim of the game. But I think that the ability to customize your protagonist in a game like this is nothing to scoff at, and is not in opposition to any of the above.

 

I don't see why we can't have a character with variable appearance and sex who is still predefined to the extent that Geralt is. This is the case in Mass Effect, it is the case in Dragon Age 2. I can think of other games where this is an option too, but they're less applicable to the subject than these. Eminently doable though. I'd like to see CDPR take this approach in future games, in TW's setting and elsewhere.

 

I'm not scoffing at anything. In fact I loved playing all these different characters in DAO. I loved playing as a city elf just as I loved playing as a noble human. But in DAI, at least for me, it's just not worth it to play as a different race like it was in DAO. I actually think it's a flaw, because there's so many choices, everything else just starts to get too limited. More limited than if you would have a set character. Personality is just not there and in the end, the only thing that changes is the look of your Inquisitor and a few lines of dialogue. While in TW3, I get to play a character that actually has a personality, background and the story is as personal as it can be, it makes sense for that character.

 

But hey, if you prefer to have choices, it's fine. I'm all for choices as well as I'm all for a set PC too. What I want in the end is to play as an interesting character with an interesting background and experience a good story that is connected to said character, something that is lacking from DAI, at least in my opinion. What I was trying to say is that, just because you can choose who you want to be in DAI, doesn't automatically make it better than TW3. Quantity doesn't exactly mean quality.

[MoonDrummer]

Not per David Gaider:

Q: Any chance of an Inquisition DLC with shiny dresses for the Ball or other Orlais scenes? Because I'll be honest, about half of the reason I was excited to hear that DAI had a ball in it was because I thought it meant I would get to see my lady Inquisitor kicking ass in a pretty dress.
•Anonymous

A: I know they wanted to get a “pick your outfit for the ball” feature in, but that was cut due to a number of difficulties (none of which I have enough knowledge of to comment on). Whether that will make its way into a DLC or something, I can’t really say — I can’t comment on unannounced projects at all, even as to their existence, so you’ll have to wait and see.

Them not being bothered doesn't make it any less of a wasted opportunity. 

[FKA_Servo]

Not per David Gaider:

Q: Any chance of an Inquisition DLC with shiny dresses for the Ball or other Orlais scenes? Because I'll be honest, about half of the reason I was excited to hear that DAI had a ball in it was because I thought it meant I would get to see my lady Inquisitor kicking ass in a pretty dress.
•Anonymous

A: I know they wanted to get a “pick your outfit for the ball” feature in, but that was cut due to a number of difficulties (none of which I have enough knowledge of to comment on). Whether that will make its way into a DLC or something, I can’t really say — I can’t comment on unannounced projects at all, even as to their existence, so you’ll have to wait and see.

 

I do however think you need to stop spinning bugs and limited content as "features."

 

The ball outfits were a wasted opportunity, and a bit of a disappointment to many, myself included. The revelation that more was planned suggests the opposite of what you're implying. Moondrummer's observation is entirely justified.

[MoonDrummer]

Good idea. I don't even know why I bother... 

 

I read somewhere there's a new look for Ciri coming. Anyone knows when we'll be getting it? I'd love to have it for my second playthrough.

 

Apparently they had already put it up on the xbox marketplace but ended up removing it, if that's true I don't imagine it'll be long. 

[FKA_Servo]

I'm not scoffing at anything. In fact I loved playing all these different characters in DAO. I loved playing as a city elf just as I loved playing as a noble human. But in DAI, at least for me, it's just not worth it to play as a different race. I actually think it's a flaw, because there's so many choices, everything else just starts to get too limited. More limited than if you would have a set character. Personality is just not there and in the end, the only thing that changes is the look of your Inquisitor and a few lines of dialogue. While in TW3, I get to play a character that actually has a personality and the story is as personal as it can be. But hey, if you prefer to have choices, it's fine. I'm all for choices as well as I'm all for a set PC too. What I want in the end is to play as an interesting character with an interesting background and experience a good story that is connected to said character, something that is lacking from DAI, at least in my opinion. What I was trying to say is that just because you can choose who you want to be in DAI, doesn't automatically make it better than TW3.

 

I'm not actually suggesting anything is better than anything for any reason. Or advocating playable elves in TW or something, for that matter.

 

What I'm saying is that a custom protagonist does not preclude any of this. You can have an interesting set character with an interesting set background and a compelling set personality, and still choose your appearance and your gender.

[line_genrou]

I don't really care about the new outfit tbh, I prefer her default one

I'm more interested in the patch, apparently a storage chest will be included and I'm in desperate need for it because my inventory is full of witcher gear that I can't throw away because I want to upgrade them later.

[hoechlbear]

I'm not actually suggesting anything is better than anything for any reason. Or advocating playable elves in TW or something, for that matter.

 

What I'm saying is that a custom protagonist does not preclude any of this. You can have an interesting set character with an interesting set background and a compelling set personality, and still choose your appearance and your gender.

 

Not you, but someone else was. 

 

And I know that. Heck, you can even have different races to choose from and still have an interesting character with an interesting background. Like I said, DAO did that, so it's possible. But with DAI they just gave up on that matter and decided to leave it all for headcanons. I'm just saying that I don't care about the Inquisitor, be it an elf, a qunari, a dwarf or a human because of all the blandness and the lack of connection they had to the main story and the companions. 

[Elhanan]

I do however think you need to stop spinning bugs and limited content as "features."
 
The ball outfits were a wasted opportunity, and a bit of a disappointment to many, myself included. The revelation that more was planned suggests the opposite of what you're implying. Moondrummer's observation is entirely justified.

Perhaps, but I accept having a single Vanilla outfit; can use a mod if another set of PJ's is desired. TW3 seems to have several outfits for a single PC; am guessing this may not be as difficult to implement.

And I prefer the quality seen in the writing of Bioware; will likely not see it in The Witcher.

[line_genrou]

Oh, sweet summer child, you know nothing.

[MoonDrummer]

And I prefer the quality seen in the writing of Bioware; will likely not see it in The Witcher.

   

[Elhanan]

   

To clarify: I will likely not see it in The Witcher, as I also pass on the books as well as the games.

[FKA_Servo]

Not you, but someone else was. 

 

And I know that. Heck, you can even have different races to choose from and still have an interesting character with an interesting background. Like I said, DAO did that, so it's possible. But with DAI they just gave up on that matter and decided to leave it all for headcanons. I'm just saying that I don't care about the Inquisitor, be it an elf, a qunari, a dwarf or a human because of all the blandness and the lack of connection they had to the main story and the companions. 

 

By the same token, as much as I am enjoying the game now (and I am enjoying it very much), this single change would still make it ten times more appealing to me, particularly with regard to replayability.

 

I'm quite content with the range of opinions I'm able to espouse in TW, and I'm quite content with the choices I'm able to make. But keep everything the same and just let me customize my character, I'd love it unreservedly, and frankly, it wouldn't have taken me so long to actually play the game. Interpret that as deeply or as superficially as you want. I know it's not a popular sentiment in this thread, but it's not unique to me, either. I really think it would massively broaden the appeal of the game.

 

I know this wouldn't work with the story they wanted to tell. I know that ship has sailed, and frankly I'm enjoying it as is, so it doesn't bother me as much as it did before I played the games. But taking this same approach in future games would be incredibly disappointing.

[nici2412]

^ luckily every single poll I have seen about the next Witcher game a "customizable character" was the least popular option.I just hope CDp listens to their core fanbase.They should make another game with Geralt. Or a young Vesemir or Ciri, Lambert. A prequel or sequel or whatever. But hopefully no "no name" From my experience with Bioware and Bethesda games this usually ends in a bland and shallow protagonist I couldn't care less about.

[line_genrou]

Please, can we get one thing out of the way?

The Witcher is a series of books and the protagonist is Geralt of Rivia. It would make absolutely no sense to "create" a character. This is the story of Geralt of Rivia and that's it. The Witcher is Geralt.

When I play Final Fantasy 7, I'm playing Cloud's story, at most I can change his name and that's it. I can't change how Cloud looks because that's a set character.

 

Try to make all RPGs be the same way is ridiculous. If you can't get over a set character, go play some other game that gives you the option to create your main protagonist look-wise. Don't try to apply that to games that has a different purpose.

[Dread-Reaper]

I think it's that this will continue to be a serious point in Bioware's favor, and something that I maintain would have benefited the witcher as well.

 

I understand why we're playing as Geralt specifically (he's the main character in the books, and that's what CDPR wanted to do. Whatever, fine). I can appreciate why this can't be adopted in the middle of the series. I understand why many players prefer a more predefined character - a stronger central personality can sometimes help in telling a tighter story, and I agree depending on the aim of the game. But I think that the ability to customize your protagonist in a game like this is nothing to scoff at, and is not in opposition to any of the above.

 

I don't see why we can't have a character with variable appearance and sex who is still predefined to the extent that Geralt is. This is the case in Mass Effect, it is the case in Dragon Age 2. I can think of other games where this is an option too, but they're less applicable to the subject than these. Eminently doable though. I'd like to see CDPR take this approach in future games, in TW's setting and elsewhere.

This wouldn't work because they'd have change the lore or characters. If Geralt was a female, there'd be no Triss, Yennefer, Ciri, Lambert, Eskel, Vesemir, maybe even no Dandelion. it wouldn't even be a Witcher game, since females cannot be come a Witcher. Even if they had let you change Geralt's appearance, he'd still have to be white, have the signature Witcher eyes, he'd also have to keep his albino hair and the scars on his face and all over his body.

[Super Drone]

To clarify: I will likely not see it in The Witcher, as I also pass on the books as well as the games.

 

lol. That'd be a new benchmark for BSN, complaining that protagainists of books don't have customizable  genders and sexualities.

 

"They used a definitive gender pronoun for the main character in the first chapter. 0/10 Worst Book Ever. Why does anyone even Steinbeck?!?"

[FKA_Servo]

^ luckily every single poll I have seen about the next Witcher game a "customizable character" was the least popular option.I just hope CDp listens to their core fanbase.They should make another game with Geralt. Or a young Vesemir or Ciri, Lambert. A prequel or sequel or whatever. But hopefully no "no name" From my experience with Bioware and Bethesda games this usually ends in a bland and shallow protagonist I couldn't care less about.

 

Doesn't need to be a "no name." I can say a bunch of things about Shepard and Hawke, but I don't think they're bland or shallow, necessarily. Besides, what I'm proposing is just amounts to adding a CC and recording two VOs for the PC. Whatever their intended personality is would still shine through.

 

Please, can we get one thing out of the way?

The Witcher is a series of books and the protagonist is Geralt of Rivia. It would make absolutely no sense to "create" a character. This is the story of Geralt of Rivia and that's it. The Witcher is Geralt.

When I play Final Fantasy 7, I'm playing Cloud's story, at most I can change his name and that's it. I can't change how Cloud looks because that's a set character.

 

Try to make all RPGs be the same way is ridiculous. If you can't get over a set character, go play some other game that gives you the option to create your main protagonist look-wise. Don't try to apply that to games that has a different purpose.

 

I understand this and addressed it, and propose it for future games.

 

That said, there are plenty of games set in a given fictional world that don't concern the main characters in the existing work. A number of GoT and LoTR games come to mind.

 

 

This wouldn't work because they'd have change the lore or characters. If Geralt was a female, there'd be no Triss, Yennefer, Ciri, Lambert, Eskel, Vesemir, maybe even no Dandelion. it wouldn't even be a Witcher game, since females cannot be come a Witcher. Even if they had let you change Geralt's appearance, he'd still have to be white, have the signature Witcher eyes, he'd also have to keep his albino hair and the scars on his face and all over his body.

 

I know. I thought it I made it clear that I wasn't talking about "Geralt" specifically, and that  I understand it wouldn't work for the game we have, but I guess I didn't.

[line_genrou]

They could release a spin-off I guess, with some nobody you could create in Geralt's world...interracting with Geralt's friends and even with Geralt.

I personally can't see the appeal.

[Dread-Reaper]

I know. I thought it I made it clear that I wasn't talking about "Geralt" specifically, and that  I understand it wouldn't work for the game we have, but I guess I didn't.

I didn't see your other message while typing that, so yeah, I see what you mean now. Still, I personally hope they always stick with the pre-defined characters with the Witcher games, even if you don't play as Geralt.