Please no, Ciri is a horrible character. Best thing that can happen is that we never hear from her again.
I love her. But I think she's a fantastic response to all the haters who were complaining about Geralt being a Mary-Sue.
"You think Geralt's a Mary-Sue? ha! Watch this!"
Yeah, it's a little limited when comparing to Geralt, but I'm sure they would come up with something interesting if they make her the next protagonist. I haven't read the books and I'm not that familiar with the lore but why can't women be witchers? Couldn't she become one? I mean, she's not an ordinary woman after all. Her rate of surviving the trial could be even better than most men.
It's because the mutations Witchers undergo required a TON of research just to get a 30% success rate for males - they'd have to do even more research for females with their different biology, and Witchers are dying out as a whole, no one left to do the research.
Yeah, it's a little limited when comparing to Geralt, but I'm sure they would come up with something interesting if they make her the next protagonist. I haven't read the books and I'm not that familiar with the lore but why can't women be witchers? Couldn't she become one? I mean, she's not an ordinary woman after all. Her rate of surviving the trial could be even better than most men.
It's because the mutations Witchers undergo required TONS of research just to get a 30% success rate for males - they'd have to do even more research for females with their different biology, and Witchers are dying out as a whole, no one left to do the said research.
I still can't believe people consider Geralt a sue..
Yeah, it's a little limited when comparing to Geralt, but I'm sure they would come up with something interesting if they make her the next protagonist. I haven't read the books and I'm not that familiar with the lore but why can't women be witchers? Couldn't she become one? I mean, she's not an ordinary woman after all. Her rate of surviving the trial could be even better than most men.
The Wiki seems to indicate the mutagens used to make witchers aren't compatible with female biological development. They might make women witcher's, but they would not develop into an adult correctly (I'm assuming this means things like secondary sexual charactaristics or other female adult development, but it could be more practical things like muscle development or bone structure that differ from men to women).
Apparently, this is why Ciri was trained in Witcher sword-styles, but never mutated.
The Wiki seems to indicate the mutagens used to make witchers aren't compatible with female biological development. They might make women witcher's, but they would not develop into an adult correctly (I'm assuming this means things like secondary sexual charactaristics or other female adult development, but it could be more practical things like muscle development or bone structure that differ from men to women).
Apparently, this is why Ciri was trained in Witcher sword-styles, but never mutated.
That's mostly correct.
Having read the first few translated books, my understanding is that new Witchers haven't been made in almost 100 years. Namely because they have lost almost all the knowledge on how to prepare the mutagens, administer them, and how the react to the recipients.
In the novels, Triss Merrigold prevents Geralt and Vesimir from using improper mutagens on Ciri because it would have, as you said, prevented her adult development.
I still can't believe people consider Geralt a sue..
Spoiler
The teaser trailer at the end of tw1 shows him struggling genuinely also against other witchers. He's fairly designed in character and fairly vulnerable. In the books, his friends bail him out of trouble often.
He's far from a sue imo. He suffers probably from "Destiny" more than anything.
I agree that Geralt is not a Mary Sue however your info on Letho is inaccurate. Letho did not 'kick Geralt's ass', Geralt first disarmed Letho and then Letho hit him with an ard. Letho later said that if Geralt had all of his memories, he doubted that he would have beaten Geralt. Geralt is considered to be the best swordsman in the Witcher universe. Look at how Geralt saved Letho, Letho was struck by a Slyzard's tail something Letho said few people, even Witchers could dodge; Geralt killed the Slyzard and saved Letho's life. There are real examples of Geralt struggling, like when he fought Vilgefortz, mostly because Vilgefortz controlled such powerful magic.
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I agree that Geralt is not a Mary Sue however your info on Letho is inaccurate. Letho did not 'kick Geralt's ass', Geralt first disarmed Letho and then Letho hit him with an ard. Letho later said that if Geralt had all of his memories, he doubted that he would have beaten Geralt. Geralt is considered to be the best swordsman in the Witcher universe. Look at how Geralt saved Letho, Letho was struck by a Slyzard's tail something Letho said few people, even Witchers could dodge; Geralt killed the Slyzard and saved Letho's life. There are real examples of Geralt struggling, like when he fought Vilgefortz, mostly because Vilgefortz controlled such powerful magic.
I still can't believe people consider Geralt a sue..
Spoiler
The teaser trailer at the end of tw1 shows him struggling genuinely also against other witchers. He's fairly designed in character and fairly vulnerable. In the books, his friends bail him out of trouble often.
He's far from a sue imo. He suffers probably from "Destiny" more than anything.
I don't get it, either.
Sure, he's strong and good at combat, but his life kinda sucks.
I don't get it, either.
Sure, he's strong and good at combat, but his life kinda sucks.
Well, compared to all the other witchers he's got it kinda easy...
Ok so we are proud to announce our next Bioware Tittle!!! and is called....!!?
Dragontcher The Inquildhunt with our loved CDPR working hand to hand with Bioware
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C'mon ppl!!! two different corps two different games, and deal with it! the two games are amazing
Ok so we are proud to announce our next Bioware Tittle!!! and is called....!!?
Dragontcher The Inquildhunt with our loved CDPR working hand to hand with Bioware
And everyone is happy... for FREE!!!
C'mon ppl!!! two different corps two different games, and deal with it! the two games are amazing
And everyone is happy... for FREE!!!
I'm happy for you for feeling that way.the two games are amazing
They're both $75 where i am, so theyre not free.
I'm happy for you for feeling that way.
and im happy for you =)
I still can't believe people consider Geralt a sue..
Spoiler
The teaser trailer at the end of tw1 shows him struggling genuinely also against other witchers. He's fairly designed in character and fairly vulnerable. In the books, his friends bail him out of trouble often.
He's far from a sue imo. He suffers probably from "Destiny" more than anything.
Geralt cannot be a Mary Sue by the fact that he is a pre-established character. Therefore players aren't placing themselves in the game rather than taking on the role of another character. Custom-made characters are closer to acting as Mary Sues but only if they are doing so in a narrative that's already been revealed to the public, and they make broad changes according to their desires. Unless the player installs mods that greatly change the effect of choices and endings, then they're only playing the game within its rules.
Geralt cannot be a Mary Sue by the fact that he is a pre-established character. Therefore players aren't placing themselves in the game rather than taking on the role of another character. Custom-made characters are closer to acting as Mary Sues but only if they are doing so in a narrative that's already been revealed to the public, and they make broad changes according to their desires. Unless the player installs mods that greatly change the effect of choices and endings, then they're only playing the game within its rules.
This Geralt not even close to Mary Sue. On the other hand Inqusitor is definition of Mary Sue.
Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy][Cass Cullen Leliana :lol: ], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.
We not die yet. The you think Warden is Mary Sue too.
I still can't believe people consider Geralt a sue..
Spoiler
The teaser trailer at the end of tw1 shows him struggling genuinely also against other witchers. He's fairly designed in character and fairly vulnerable. In the books, his friends bail him out of trouble often.
He's far from a sue imo. He suffers probably from "Destiny" more than anything.
If you read the books (yeah yeah I know...) it's pretty clear that Geralt is the luckiest "Mary Sue" in fiction. The amount of times he's been beaten to a pulp and had to be saved by Triss, Phillipa, Yennefer or a random wagon driver is hard to count...
I honestly don't understand why Bioware fans hate him so much. It's probably due to those bloody Witcher 1 trading cards and the combination of his voice actor (whom I like) and the limitations of the first games ability to convey emotions... The Geralt in Witcher 3 is more representative of the book Geralt - The loner with a wry (if terrible) sense of humor whom only cares about looking after his loved ones while trying to retain his autonomy from a pretty awful geopolitical landscape.
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It's worth saying that Geralt's reward for all of this effort is that he gets to remain a penniless vagrant who routinely gets beaten to a pulp while being scorned by society - and he embraces that rather than compromise his ideals.
If you read the books (yeah yeah I know...) it's pretty clear that Geralt is the luckiest "Mary Sue" in fiction. The amount of times he's been beaten to a pulp and had to be saved by Triss, Phillipa, Yennefer or a random wagon driver is hard to count...
I honestly don't understand why Bioware fans hate him so much. It's probably due to those bloody Witcher 1 trading cards and the combination of his voice actor (whom I like) and the limitations of the first games ability to convey emotions... The Geralt in Witcher 3 is more representative of the book Geralt - The loner with a wry (if terrible) sense of humor whom only cares about looking after his loved ones while trying to retain his autonomy from a pretty awful geopolitical landscape.
For me voice actor is perfect for Geralt. He can deliver sarcasm with most brooding voice and it's still fun. He done character perfect.
For me voice actor is perfect for Geralt. He can deliver sarcasm with most brooding voice and it's still fun. He done character perfect.
Indeed, but a certain group of (American) people only see a Marcus Fenix, Christian Bale batman, gruff white male protagonist clone.
Indeed, but a certain group of (American) people only see a Marcus Fenix, Christian Bale batman, gruff white male protagonist clone.
Untrue.
You can't deny that some people dismiss the witcher series outright because they don't think they can identify with the protagonist. This can be for a myriad of reasons some good and some bad. But I'm arguing that some of these preconceived notions of Geralt are misplaced and result from small missteps in his characterization in the first two games (and those damn collectible cards... haha).
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