Vilgefortz is as equally capable a sword fighter as Getalt if not even better. Their first encounter Geralt almost dead.
In the first encounter Vilgefortz used a magic staff that Geralt could not block or parry.Vilgefortz is also dead, so he can't be better.
You can't deny that some people dismiss the witcher series outright because they don't think they can identify with the protagonist. This can be for a myriad of reasons some good and some bad. But I'm arguing that some of these preconceived notions of Geralt are misplaced and result from small missteps in his characterization in the first two games (and those damn collectible cards... haha).
I am not disputing that. I am disputing the "American" thing. Not sure what being American has to do with not liking Geralt's voice acting.
Yeah that was probably a cheap shot. I apologize. Due to race relations in the US (and elsewhere), people may unfairly judge a white male protagonist, with white hair to boot. I don't expect the average American consumer to be sympathetic to the fact that that the witcher is a polish game, developed by polish people, based on polish folk lore and be able to separate their own context from the context of the story. Race issues are tackled in the witcher, but from a different perspective than that of typical American stories. To put it far to simply, racial tension in Poland and much of that region in Europe is white on white racial tension rather than white on black/latino/asian etc etc.
Yeah that was probably a cheap shot. I apologize. Due to race relations in the US (and elsewhere), people may unfairly judge a white male protagonist, with white hair to boot. I don't expect the average American consumer to be sympathetic to the fact that that the witcher is a polish game, developed by polish people, based on polish folk lore and be able to separate their own context from the context of the story. Race issues are tackled in the witcher, but from a different perspective than that of typical American stories. To put it far to simply, racial tension in Poland and much of that region in Europe is white on white racial tension rather than white on black/latino/asian etc etc.
In the first encounter Vilgefortz used a magic staff that Geralt could not block or parry.Vilgefortz is also dead, so he can't be better.
All hail Fringilla! Yup, I'm all for women with raven hair. 
Wow, that is a pretty complex explanation as to why Americans dislike his voice acting lol. I doubt anyone thinks that deeply into it.
Almost every reasoning I have seen for not liking his voice boils down to his tone. They say he has flat, emotionless speech. If racial relations play into it, I've yet to see it.
Yeah, sorry I wasn't talking about his voice acting in isolation. I was talking about how relateable he is to American audiences - and speficically to those who enjoy dragon age games. He is often castigated as a stereotypical, generic character who lacks emotion when he can be shown to be anything but.
This is compounded by other unfortunate issues such as the misconception that Geralt is some kind of chauvinistic wandering womaniser when again, that simply isn't the case. The women in Geralts life dwarf him in terms of influence and individual power and use him far more than he can be said to use them. Hence, alot more import is given to this aspect of the witcher games than is required (the collectible cards...)
Lastly, Dragon Age fans have certain expectations regarding the treatment of social issues in their games. The witcher games have a different context and address these issues differently which I don't really want to get into now.
Yeah, sorry I wasn't talking about his voice acting in isolation. I was talking about how relateable he is to American audiences - and speficically to those who enjoy dragon age games. He is often castigated as a stereotypical, generic character who lacks emotion when he can be shown to be anything but.
This is compounded by other unfortunate issues such as the misconception that Geralt is some kind of chauvinistic wandering womaniser when again, that simply isn't the case. The women in Geralts life dwarf him in terms of influence and individual power and use him far more than he can be said to use them. Hence, alot more import is given to this aspect of the witcher games than is required (the collectible cards...)
Lastly, Dragon Age fans have certain expectations regarding the treatment of social issues in their games. The witcher games have a different context and address these issues differently which I don't really want to get into now.
Please don't drag this thread into a social/political issue discussion.
Please don't drag this thread into a social/political issue discussion.
Oh man.. that skellige ard theme song reminds me of the DAO one. I'm nostalgic all of a sudden.
I wasn't trying to.
I'm not mean anyone specifically , just try to make sure Mods won't lock this great thread for some discussions.
P.S. you could get 1000crown back from the captain.
I love everything in Skellige. I remember when I first arrived and I initially didn't care for it, but after wondering around on land and on water, it's amazing. It has some really great missions, too.
And most NPCs in Skellige are nice people with honest words.
You don't have to dislike Geralt to find his Batman/Snake voice funny.
This Geralt not even close to Mary Sue. On the other hand Inqusitor is definition of Mary Sue.
Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy][Cass Cullen Leliana :lol: ], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.
Its like you just described Ciri.
Wow, that is a pretty complex explanation as to why Americans dislike his voice acting lol. I doubt anyone thinks that deeply into it.
Almost every reasoning I have seen for not liking his voice boils down to his tone. They say he has flat, emotionless speech. If racial relations play into it, I've yet to see it.
I've watched a playthrough of TW1 on Youtube and the difference in Geralt's voice is shocking. In the first game I would agree that his voice lacks emotion and is very robotic (much like all voice acting in that game) but in TW3 it doesn't even sound like the same voice actor. His raspy voice goes really well with his sarcastic and grumpy personality and I looove his dry sense of humor, made me laugh out loud quite a few times. I think he's a great character and I don't understand how after TW3 people still say that he lacks emotion.
I'm about to start reading the books so it will be interesting to see how different the Geralt from the books is.
I've watched a playthrough of TW1 on Youtube and the difference in Geralt's voice is shocking. In the first game I would agree that his voice lacks emotion and is very robotic (much like all voice acting in that game) but in TW3 it doesn't even sound like the same voice actor. His raspy voice goes really well with his sarcastic and grumpy personality and I looove his dry sense of humor, made me laugh out loud quite a few times. I think he's a great character and I don't understand how after TW3 people still say that he lacks emotion.
I'm about to start reading the books so it will be interesting to see how different the Geralt from the books is.
I can clearly hear its the same guy in all of them, but he definitely became a better voice actor in the time between witcher 1 and witcher 3. Aside form minor roles such as Vesemir (and one or two other characters i cant recall the names of) he is the only voice actor from the first game that ever got the chance to return for more.
Witcher 1 is a lot like DA:I from a production perspective, it was their first game ever as a studio and it shows throughout the whole thing, a similar perspective could be given to Bioware and Open World RPG's.
I'm kind of like the Triss' VA in TW1.
I get what you're saying and I completely agree. It just isn't a nationality problem. It's a preference or prejudicial problem.
I do find odd some of the reasoning behind why people dislike Geralt. A large portion on the views of both him and TW3 is based on misconceptions-- when they haven't even touched the game. I don't know why a lot of DA fans get upset whenever TW is mentioned. However, I have met a lot of people who like both and are open minded about suggestions. This thread is filled with good people such as that.
But yeah, anyway-- I am American and I completely dig Geralt and I understand (and prefer) CDPR's depiction of social and racial issues.
I kind of felt it was.
You don't have to dislike Geralt to find his Batman/Snake voice funny.
Why does it have to be batman's voice? Does batman really own the neutral tone? :/ For Snake, it's the same voice actor I believe.
I can clearly hear its the same guy in all of them, but he definitely became a better voice actor in the time between witcher 1 and witcher 3. Aside form minor roles such as Vesemir (and one or two other characters i cant recall the names of) he is the only voice actor from the first game that ever got the chance to return for more.
Witcher 1 is a lot like DA:I from a production perspective, it was their first game ever as a studio and it shows throughout the whole thing, a similar perspective could be given to Bioware and Open World RPG's.
Yes, you can obviously tell it's the same voice but I was talking about the performance. In TW1 Geralt's voice actor sounds like an amateur. In TW3 the acting is miles better. But I understand why TW1 overall isn't as good, and that's not a bad thing because it seems CDPR improved on every aspect, game after game, while with DA it feels like they are going downhill with each game they make.
Why does it have to be batman's voice? Does batman really own the neutral tone? :/ For Snake, it's the same voice actor I believe.
Sometimes people own something like Hitler's mustache.
I kind of felt it was.
Why does it have to be batman's voice? Does batman really own the neutral tone? :/ For Snake, it's the same voice actor I believe.
I don't know if I'd characterize Baletman voice as "neutral," necessarily...
Snake was played by David Hayter until the last couple of games, when he was inexplicably replaced by Keifer Sutherland (I personally haven't played any of the games since MGS2, when it went all pants-on-head).
I'm kind of like the Triss' VA in TW1.
I'm actually totally with you. There were a lot of terrible performances in there (Dandelion, shudder), but I thought Triss was great. She was funny and sort of sarcastic (and I guess the character still is) but whoever played her nailed the delivery.
I'm actually totally with you. There were a lot of terrible performances in there (Dandelion, shudder), but I thought Triss was great. She was funny and sort of sarcastic (and I guess the character still is) but whoever played her nailed the delivery.
Because Triss is TW1 is bascially based on Yenna (characteristics and tone of speech etc.).
There is actually a mod for Yenna
Wow, that is a pretty complex explanation as to why Americans dislike his voice acting lol. I doubt anyone thinks that deeply into it.
Almost every reasoning I have seen for not liking his voice boils down to his tone. They say he has flat, emotionless speech. If racial relations play into it, I've yet to see it.
This.
At least for me anyways, Geralt is just WAY too passionless (his voice anyways)... well, in TW2 (since I have't played TW3 yet). It was like playing my friend who is as apathetic as, I dunno...
Kind of irksome when I wanted to care for the story/characters & my protag didn't feel the same amount of care as I did. I understand he's his own character, but still, I hate playing him.
Got a love/hate thing with TW series. Great stories and gritty dark fantasy aspects, but all the characters (thus far) invoke some serious rage in me.
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