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[panzerwzh]

Most characters in the witcher world is very complicated and there tons of back story (or main story) behind their development.

Even CDPR does wonders in TW3, but they are too wonderfu to be fully explored in this 100+ hr RPG masterpiece.

 

I would try to summerized some of them (with this wonderful thread of course)

http://forums.cdproj...-(all-spoilers)

 

Yennefer

Spoiler

Originally Posted by Kallelinski

Yennefer only appears to be cold to outsiders, because she never learned it any different. Yennefer never had a real familiy, not before or after becoming a sorceress, not until she met Geralt and Ciri. The society of sorcerers even told her that the only family she has now is the Brotherhood. She will never be loved by anyone, never have children, never have friends and so on. Feelings are for the weak, showing feelings is a weakness.
Her direct mentor was known for that. Her mentor had the idea to expel any kind of (motherly) feelings for every sorceress and i think Yennefer was her master copy.

She was made to be like this and yet she changes for the better. I am glad Yennefer didn't do the same with Ciri, showing that she still had a kind soul in her despite that "education program" and as we have read/seen later, she would do anything for those she holds dear, despite how her life was before. All other sorceresses could never understand what Yennefer sees in Geralt and why she clings on him so much, but that's the big difference between her and the rest, since she learned that having/showing feelings is not a flaw.
[...]
When a woman with a strong self confidence shows insecurity, it shouldn't be considered a weakness, but human and that's probably the biggest compliment you can give a sorcerer.

 

For Geralt

Spoiler

Similar to Yen, Geralt is always suffered from his feelings to love to hate to understand and embrace the world that only considered any wicther must be a emotionless, greedy, monster killing freak. He suffered from the insecurity for whether his mutated body/mind is emotionally capable to love to be loved, he could not decide his passion towards Yen and Ciri would bring them happiness safety or sorrow /mortal danger of that old curse 'Not witcher ever dies in his bed'. Yen's love and Ciri's compassion sustains Geralt to stand for his own path which defy any understanding for that profession.

 

They are a family beyond any common understanding,yet they are also soul-mates who suffered from the curses of destiny but sustain each other to live for their own path.

 

 

Geralt's dream

Spoiler

He thought for her and Yennefer smiled, listening to his thoughts. The smile quivered on her cheek along with the crescent shadows of her eyelashes.

 

‘A home?’ asked Yennefer suddenly. ‘What home? Do you have a home? You want to build a home? Oh . . . I’m sorry. I shouldn’t . . .’

 

He was quiet. He was angry with himself. As he had been thinking for her, he had accidentally allowed her to read a thought about herself.

 

‘A pretty dream,’ said Yennefer, stroking him lightly on the shoulder. ‘A home. A house built with your own hands, and you and I in that house. You would keep horses and sheep, and I would have a little garden, cook food and card wool, which we would take to market. With the pennies earned from selling the wool and various crops we would buy what we needed; let’s say some copper cauldrons and an iron rake. Every now and then, Ciri would visit us with her husband and three children, and Triss Merigold would occasionally look in, to stay for a few days. We’d grow old together, beautifully and with dignity. And should I ever get bored, you would play for me in the evening on your homemade bagpipes. Playing the bagpipes – as everyone knows – is the best remedy for depression.’

 

The Witcher said nothing. The enchantress cleared her throat softly.

 

‘I’m sorry,’ she said, a moment later. He got up on an elbow, leaned across and kissed her. She moved suddenly, and hugged him. Wordlessly.

 

‘Say something.’

 

‘I wouldn’t like to lose you, Yen.’

 

‘But you have me.’

 

‘The night will end.’

 

‘Everything ends.’

 

No, he thought. I don’t want it to be like that. I’m tired. Too tired to accept the perspective of endings which are beginnings, and starting everything over again. I’d like . . .

 

‘Don’t talk,’ she said, quickly placing her fingers on his lips. ‘Don’t tell me what you’d like and what you desire. Because it might turn out I won’t be able to fulfil your desires, and that causes me pain.’

 

‘What do you desire, Yen? What do you dream about?’

 

‘Only about achievable things.’

 

‘And about me?’

 

‘I already have you.’

 

He remained quiet for a long time, waiting until she broke the silence.

 

‘Geralt?’

 

‘Mm?’

 

‘Love me, please.’

 

[Xetykins]

Most characters in the witcher world is very complicated and there tons of back story (or main story) behind their development.
Even CDPR does wonders in TW3, but they are too wonderfu to be fully explored in this 100+ hr RPG masterpiece.
 
I would try to summerized some of them (with this wonderful thread of course)
[url=http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40716-Yennefer-of-Vengerberg-(all-spoilers)]http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40716-Yennefer-of-Vengerberg-(all-spoilers)[/ur
 
Yennefer

Spoiler

Originally Posted by Kallelinski
Yennefer only appears to be cold to outsiders, because she never learned it any different. Yennefer never had a real familiy, not before or after becoming a sorceress, not until she met Geralt and Ciri. The society of sorcerers even told her that the only family she has now is the Brotherhood. She will never be loved by anyone, never have children, never have friends and so on. Feelings are for the weak, showing feelings is a weakness.
Her direct mentor was known for that. Her mentor had the idea to expel any kind of (motherly) feelings for every sorceress and i think Yennefer was her master copy.
She was made to be like this and yet she changes for the better. I am glad Yennefer didn't do the same with Ciri, showing that she still had a kind soul in her despite that "education program" and as we have read/seen later, she would do anything for those she holds dear, despite how her life was before. All other sorceresses could never understand what Yennefer sees in Geralt and why she clings on him so much, but that's the big difference between her and the rest, since she learned that having/showing feelings is not a flaw.
[...]
When a woman with a strong self confidence shows insecurity, it shouldn't be considered a weakness, but human and that's probably the biggest compliment you can give a sorcerer.

 
For Geralt

Spoiler

Similar to Yen, Geralt is always suffered from his feelings to love to hate to understand and embrace the world that only considered any wicther must be a emotionless, greedy, monster killing freak. He suffered from the insecurity for whether his mutated body/mind is emotionally capable to love to be loved, he could not decide his passion towards Yen and Ciri would bring them happiness safety or sorrow /mortal danger of that old curse 'Not witcher ever dies in his bed'. Yen's love and Ciri's compassion sustains Geralt to stand for his own path which defy any understanding for that profession.
 
They are a family beyond any common understanding,yet they are also soul-mates who suffered from the curses of destiny but sustain each other to live for their own path.

 
 
Geralt's dream

Spoiler

He thought for her and Yennefer smiled, listening to his thoughts. The smile quivered on her cheek along with the crescent shadows of her eyelashes.
 
‘A home?’ asked Yennefer suddenly. ‘What home? Do you have a home? You want to build a home? Oh . . . I’m sorry. I shouldn’t . . .’
 
He was quiet. He was angry with himself. As he had been thinking for her, he had accidentally allowed her to read a thought about herself.
 
‘A pretty dream,’ said Yennefer, stroking him lightly on the shoulder. ‘A home. A house built with your own hands, and you and I in that house. You would keep horses and sheep, and I would have a little garden, cook food and card wool, which we would take to market. With the pennies earned from selling the wool and various crops we would buy what we needed; let’s say some copper cauldrons and an iron rake. Every now and then, Ciri would visit us with her husband and three children, and Triss Merigold would occasionally look in, to stay for a few days. We’d grow old together, beautifully and with dignity. And should I ever get bored, you would play for me in the evening on your homemade bagpipes. Playing the bagpipes – as everyone knows – is the best remedy for depression.’
 
The Witcher said nothing. The enchantress cleared her throat softly.
 
‘I’m sorry,’ she said, a moment later. He got up on an elbow, leaned across and kissed her. She moved suddenly, and hugged him. Wordlessly.
 
‘Say something.’
 
‘I wouldn’t like to lose you, Yen.’
 
‘But you have me.’
 
‘The night will end.’
 
‘Everything ends.’
 
No, he thought. I don’t want it to be like that. I’m tired. Too tired to accept the perspective of endings which are beginnings, and starting everything over again. I’d like . . .
 
‘Don’t talk,’ she said, quickly placing her fingers on his lips. ‘Don’t tell me what you’d like and what you desire. Because it might turn out I won’t be able to fulfil your desires, and that causes me pain.’
 
‘What do you desire, Yen? What do you dream about?’
 
‘Only about achievable things.’
 
‘And about me?’
 
‘I already have you.’
 
He remained quiet for a long time, waiting until she broke the silence.
 
‘Geralt?’
 
‘Mm?’
 
‘Love me, please.’
 

Crap. That was beautiful. *sob*

[MoonDrummer]

Most characters in the witcher world is very complicated and there tons of back story (or main story) behind their development.

Even CDPR does wonders in TW3, but they are too wonderfu to be fully explored in this 100+ hr RPG masterpiece.

 

I would try to summerized some of them (with this wonderful thread of course)

http://forums.cdproj...-(all-spoilers)

 

Yennefer

Spoiler

Originally Posted by Kallelinski

Yennefer only appears to be cold to outsiders, because she never learned it any different. Yennefer never had a real familiy, not before or after becoming a sorceress, not until she met Geralt and Ciri. The society of sorcerers even told her that the only family she has now is the Brotherhood. She will never be loved by anyone, never have children, never have friends and so on. Feelings are for the weak, showing feelings is a weakness.
Her direct mentor was known for that. Her mentor had the idea to expel any kind of (motherly) feelings for every sorceress and i think Yennefer was her master copy.

She was made to be like this and yet she changes for the better. I am glad Yennefer didn't do the same with Ciri, showing that she still had a kind soul in her despite that "education program" and as we have read/seen later, she would do anything for those she holds dear, despite how her life was before. All other sorceresses could never understand what Yennefer sees in Geralt and why she clings on him so much, but that's the big difference between her and the rest, since she learned that having/showing feelings is not a flaw.
[...]
When a woman with a strong self confidence shows insecurity, it shouldn't be considered a weakness, but human and that's probably the biggest compliment you can give a sorcerer.

 

For Geralt

Spoiler

Similar to Yen, Geralt is always suffered from his feelings to love to hate to understand and embrace the world that only considered any wicther must be a emotionless, greedy, monster killing freak. He suffered from the insecurity for whether his mutated body/mind is emotionally capable to love to be loved, he could not decide his passion towards Yen and Ciri would bring them happiness safety or sorrow /mortal danger of that old curse 'Not witcher ever dies in his bed'. Yen's love and Ciri's compassion sustains Geralt to stand for his own path which defy any understanding for that profession.

 

They are a family beyond any common understanding,yet they are also soul-mates who suffered from the curses of destiny but sustain each other to live for their own path.

 

 

Geralt's dream

Spoiler

He thought for her and Yennefer smiled, listening to his thoughts. The smile quivered on her cheek along with the crescent shadows of her eyelashes.

 

‘A home?’ asked Yennefer suddenly. ‘What home? Do you have a home? You want to build a home? Oh . . . I’m sorry. I shouldn’t . . .’

 

He was quiet. He was angry with himself. As he had been thinking for her, he had accidentally allowed her to read a thought about herself.

 

‘A pretty dream,’ said Yennefer, stroking him lightly on the shoulder. ‘A home. A house built with your own hands, and you and I in that house. You would keep horses and sheep, and I would have a little garden, cook food and card wool, which we would take to market. With the pennies earned from selling the wool and various crops we would buy what we needed; let’s say some copper cauldrons and an iron rake. Every now and then, Ciri would visit us with her husband and three children, and Triss Merigold would occasionally look in, to stay for a few days. We’d grow old together, beautifully and with dignity. And should I ever get bored, you would play for me in the evening on your homemade bagpipes. Playing the bagpipes – as everyone knows – is the best remedy for depression.’

 

The Witcher said nothing. The enchantress cleared her throat softly.

 

‘I’m sorry,’ she said, a moment later. He got up on an elbow, leaned across and kissed her. She moved suddenly, and hugged him. Wordlessly.

 

‘Say something.’

 

‘I wouldn’t like to lose you, Yen.’

 

‘But you have me.’

 

‘The night will end.’

 

‘Everything ends.’

 

No, he thought. I don’t want it to be like that. I’m tired. Too tired to accept the perspective of endings which are beginnings, and starting everything over again. I’d like . . .

 

‘Don’t talk,’ she said, quickly placing her fingers on his lips. ‘Don’t tell me what you’d like and what you desire. Because it might turn out I won’t be able to fulfil your desires, and that causes me pain.’

 

‘What do you desire, Yen? What do you dream about?’

 

‘Only about achievable things.’

 

‘And about me?’

 

‘I already have you.’

 

He remained quiet for a long time, waiting until she broke the silence.

 

‘Geralt?’

 

‘Mm?’

 

‘Love me, please.’

 

No forgiving Yennefer after that thing with Istredd, for me.

Spoiler

And the way she bullies Ciri when they first meet because she is jealous of her relationship with Geralt was pretty pathetic.

She did grow on me towards the end, but too little too late, then Triss is just a 50 year old woman with the emotions of a 15 year old girl. Bit weird. 

 

My Geralt will die alone in the jaws of some monster, thinking of his one true love- Dijkstra.

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[panzerwzh]

Crap. That was beautiful. *sob*

Yenna is Awesome! 

 

For Geralt's witcher salary (That's the reason why Geralt could receive that free 100 crowns loan from that dwarf mechant in Novigrad. ) 

Spoiler

"

‘A certain witcher I consider family,’ chuckled Giancardi, ‘visited the city of Dorian recently. I was informed he ran up a debt of a hundred crowns with a moneylender there. The said moneylender works for me. I’ll cancel the debt, Yennefer.’

 

The enchantress glanced at Ciri and made a sour grimace.

 

‘Molnar,’ she said coldly, ‘don’t stick your fingers in a door with broken hinges. I doubt he still holds me dear, and if he learns about any debts being cancelled he’ll hate my guts. You know him, don’t you? Honour is an obsession with him. Was he in Dorian a long time ago?’

 

‘Some ten days ago. Then he was seen in Little Marsh. I’m informed he went from there to Hirundum, since he had a commission from the farmers there. Some kind of monster to kill, as usual . . .’

 

‘And, as usual, they’ll be paying him peanuts for killing it.’ Yennefer’s voice changed a little. ‘Which, as usual, will barely cover the cost of medical treatment should he be mauled by the monster. Business as usual. If you really want to do something for me, Molnar, get involved. Contact the farmers from Hirundum and raise the bounty. Give him enough to live on.’

 

‘Business as usual,’ snorted Giancardi. ‘And if he eventually finds out about it?’

 

Yennefer fixed her eyes on Ciri, who was watching and listening now, not even attempting to feign interest in Physiologus.

 

‘And from whom,’ she muttered, ‘might he find out?’ "

 

And Yenna version "mother talk" with Ciri, full of wisdom!  

Spoiler

 

“Lady Yennefer?”

 

“Yes.”

 

“May I… As part of the sincerity you promised… May I ask you something?”

 

“You may. But, by all the gods, not about virginity, please.”

 

Ciri bit her lip and did not say anything for a long time.

 

“Too bad,” sighed Yennefer. “Let it be. Ask away.”

 

“Because, you see…” Ciri blushed and licked her lips, “the girls in the dormitory are always gossiping and telling all sorts of stories… About Belleteyn’s feast and others like that… And they say I’m a snotty kid, a child because it’s time… Lady Yennefer, how does it really work? How can one know that the time has come…”

“…to go to bed with a man?”

 

Ciri blushed a deep shade of crimson. She said nothing for a while then raised her eyes and nodded.

 

“It’s easy to tell,” said Yennefer, naturally. “If you are beginning to think about it then it’s a sign the time has come.”

 

“But I don’t want to!”

 

“It’s not compulsory. You don’t want to, then you don’t.”

 

“Ah.” Ciri bit her lip again. “And that… Well… Man… How can you tell it’s the right one to…”

“…go to bed with?”

 

“Mmmh.”

 

“If you have any choice at all,” the enchantress twisted her lips in a smile, “but don’t have much experience, you first appraise the bed.”

 

Ciri’s emerald eyes turned the shape and size of saucers.

 

“How’s that… The bed?”

 

“Precisely that. Those who don’t have a bed at all, you eliminate on the spot. From those who remain, you eliminate the owners of any dirty or slovenly beds. And when only those who have clean and tidy beds remain, you choose the one you find most attractive. Unfortunately, the method is not a hundred per cent foolproof. You can make a terrible mistake.”

 

“You’re joking?”

 

“No. I’m not joking, Ciri. As of tomorrow, you are going to sleep here with me. Bring your things. From what I hear, too much time is wasted in the novices’ dormitory on gabbling, time which would be better spent resting and sleeping.”

[panzerwzh]

Hey Istredd is a wonderful man! I'm ruling for him still. Even their relationship ends in the 2/8 books.

 

Again as summarized by Kallelinski

 

Spoiler

"I always thought of this dilemma for Yennefer, that it is either love = Geralt or security = Istredd.

She was looking for a real relationship and not just a short affair anymore, so the obvious and rational answer to this dilemma was Istredd, as he was the only one, who could give Yennefer something of worth. A reliable, safe and fulfilled relationship without any concerns and worries for a very long time. Both being a sorcerer was also helping to understand each other better. He was also a partner, which doesn't just run away, if the relationship requires obligations towards each other. When Istredd approaches Geralt with this he is rather helpless, as Geralt realizes that he is indeed right.

Because Geralt on the other hand, well, what could he offer? If we are honest, not much. He was living a life where he could die any day. He wasn't really reliable, he has no money, is not respected in their society, even worse, he is considered an outlaw, a mutant, nonhuman just like the other scum. He is almost the exact opposite of a sorcerer. Geralt aside from being a sexy witcher is the worst option for a longer relationship and yet, Yennefer wasn't able to decide.

Similiar to Geralt, she couldn't do anything with those feelings. That was just new to her, the only thing she cared so far for was either lust or what use this relationship could offer to her, but as far as i know love or anything similiar to that was never a factor in her prior relationships. Her relationships were always cold and calculating.
If a relationship didn't had any use anymore, she got rid of it, pretty normal for all sorcerers, male and female.

But that was Yennefer before she met Geralt and now? She just couldn't decide, couldn't choose from both options, best (Istredd) against worst (Geralt), she couldn't decide and ran away like a teenager, a ~80 years old sorceress ran away like a 16yo teenager, because she couldn't face such a human problem, admitting that the best option is not always the best choice.

We know that she never went back to Istredd or even had contact with him, but she came back to Geralt showing that the worst option might be even the best choice."

No forgiving Yennefer after that thing with Istredd, for me.

Spoiler

And the way she bullies Ciri when they first meet because she is jealous of her relationship with Geralt was pretty pathetic.

She did grow on me towards the end, but too little too late, then Triss is just a 50 year old woman with the emotions of a 15 year old girl. Bit weird. 

[light_bearer]

Totally agree with OP. The Witcher 3 is easily one of the best games I've ever played and one of the RPG GOAT's. I would put it right up there with games like BG2 and Planescape Torment. 

 

Just finished the game last night and WOW!!!!!!! I was more emotionally invested in this game than any game I've ever played. I was absolutely immersed in this game.

 

In contrast, I wasn't even interested enough in DAI to actually finish the damn thing. The Witcher 3 has very creative story lines, meaningful interactions, complex relationships, and your actions actually affect the story. The combat is completely skill driven and so fun that I found myself picking fights during interactions with npc's to create more combat for myself. This is very rare for such a story driven game too.

 

Honestly the Witcher 3 is a complete and utter masterpiece. It does have flaws, it's fairly buggy and the controls aren't intuitive in some ways, but its strengths are so good that I love it more than any other game I've played in 13 years or so. Easily one of the top 5 greatest rpg's ever created and one of the greatest games period.

 

For the record I didn't like the first Witcher and didn't even play the second one. I'm not a fan boy at all, but this game was like a diamond in the rough for me. In a world of corporate money grabs, this game was a shining example of the complete opposite -- a true expression of creative ability.

 

I would rank the Witcher 3 higher than Skyrim by quite a bit even.

 

Oh and the score is AMAZING!!! It goes with the imagery so well that the ambiance is incredibly powerful. I have had the Skellige theme stuck in my head for days. That scene where you're sitting on the ship with Yen and the Skellige theme is playing is one of the most emotionally driven scenes I've ever seen in a video game.

 

I have never cried playing a video game, but I'm a big baby and cry during movies real easy. I actually cried playing this game, which is something no other game has done for me.

[MoonDrummer]

Hey Istredd is a wonderful man! I'm ruling for him still. Even their relationship ends in the 2/8 books.

 

Again as summarized by Kallelinski

 

Spoiler

"I always thought of this dilemma for Yennefer, that it is either love = Geralt or security = Istredd.

She was looking for a real relationship and not just a short affair anymore, so the obvious and rational answer to this dilemma was Istredd, as he was the only one, who could give Yennefer something of worth. A reliable, safe and fulfilled relationship without any concerns and worries for a very long time. Both being a sorcerer was also helping to understand each other better. He was also a partner, which doesn't just run away, if the relationship requires obligations towards each other. When Istredd approaches Geralt with this he is rather helpless, as Geralt realizes that he is indeed right.

Because Geralt on the other hand, well, what could he offer? If we are honest, not much. He was living a life where he could die any day. He wasn't really reliable, he has no money, is not respected in their society, even worse, he is considered an outlaw, a mutant, nonhuman just like the other scum. He is almost the exact opposite of a sorcerer. Geralt aside from being a sexy witcher is the worst option for a longer relationship and yet, Yennefer wasn't able to decide.

Similiar to Geralt, she couldn't do anything with those feelings. That was just new to her, the only thing she cared so far for was either lust or what use this relationship could offer to her, but as far as i know love or anything similiar to that was never a factor in her prior relationships. Her relationships were always cold and calculating.
If a relationship didn't had any use anymore, she got rid of it, pretty normal for all sorcerers, male and female.

But that was Yennefer before she met Geralt and now? She just couldn't decide, couldn't choose from both options, best (Istredd) against worst (Geralt), she couldn't decide and ran away like a teenager, a ~80 years old sorceress ran away like a 16yo teenager, because she couldn't face such a human problem, admitting that the best option is not always the best choice.

We know that she never went back to Istredd or even had contact with him, but she came back to Geralt showing that the worst option might be even the best choice."

Its more the way she handles it.

Spoiler

She sleeps with Istredd the morning after she sleeps with Geralt, then she refuses to choose one of them over the other, as a result both men try to kill themselves. That makes her a scum bag as far as I'm concerned.  

 

[Dreadstruck]

panzerwzh is Istredd. No one else calls her Yenna this whole time.

 

Just saying.

[Farci Reprimer]

Its more the way she handles it.

Spoiler

She sleeps with Istredd the morning after she sleeps with Geralt, then she refuses to choose one of them over the other, as a result both men try to kill themselves. That makes her a scum bag as far as I'm concerned.  

 

 

Yeah........ Like Geralt hasn't been anything but saint to others his whole life? Don´t be ridiculous. Everybody does mistakes at some point in their lives, but holding on to those mistakes alone and calling people scumbags because of it is just plain childish. Yennefer has done some very stupid things in her life but so is Geralt. That is precisely what true love is about. You maturely accept yours and your partner's stupidity and live as stupid happily ever after.

 

Also You forget that Yennefer precisely brought Geralt to Aedd Gynvael so that she could make her ultimate decision between Geralt and Istredd before any bad blood could be spilled. They were both very important to her at the time and precisely that was the big problem about it.

She didn't exactly PLAN it that Istredd and Geralt would boast about their sex with Yen to each other. 

[MoonDrummer]

Yeah........ Like Geralt hasn't been anything but saint to others his whole life? Don´t be ridiculous. Everybody does mistakes at some point in their lives, but holding on to those mistakes alone and calling people scumbags because of it is just plain childish. Yennefer has done some very stupid things in her life but so is Geralt. That is precisely what true love is about. You maturely accept yours and your partner's stupidity and live as stupid happily ever after.

Spoiler

I just think cheating on people and the attempted suicide of the people you are cheating on as more than 'just being stupid.' But I'll take my hardcore and radical beliefs elsewhere. This isn't the place    

[Xetykins]

Omg. Are all these drama with Istredd in TW1 or 2? Or in the books? I gotta have it!

[MoonDrummer]

Omg. Are all these drama with Istredd in TW1 or 2? Or in the books? I gotta have it!

Books. It is only in one short story, I'm glad tbh, love triangles are the worst. 

[Farci Reprimer]

Spoiler

I just think cheating on people and the attempted suicide of the people you are cheating on as more than 'just being stupid.' But I'll take my hardcore and radical beliefs elsewhere. This isn't the place    

 

Again, Yennefer didnt plan the events that followed in the short story. No need to become so stooped.

[nici2412]

Stop hating Yen! She is awesome!

[light_bearer]

Yeah, Yen was my favorite chick in TW3. I loved her fiery attitude, lack of regard for the opinions of others, and her complete lack of a need to explain herself to anyone at all. She clearly loved Geralt immensely despite the fact that she was cold and calculating and mostly dispassionate to others. 

 

I really liked Triss for being kind and loving, but I chose Yen because that type of woman -- strong willed and unflinching -- is irresistible to me.

 

I don't fault her for the love triangle either, those specific variables would have had anyone confused.

 

I really liked Ciri too though. All of the women in TW3 are pretty awesome actually.

[Xetykins]

Books. It is only in one short story, I'm glad tbh, love triangles are the worst. 

Gah... ok :-/

Stop hating Yen! She is awesome!

I want CC that makes me create something as beautiful like that on DA4.

Another 1 for you to scribble, Torgette :-)

[line_genrou]

You don't have to dislike Geralt to find his Batman/Snake voice funny.

 

I love his voice. I can't imagine any other voice for Geralt

[zyntifox]

I love his voice. I can't imagine any other voice for Geralt

 

It's perfect for Geralt's dry wit. Such as this hilarious conversation with a Gwent player in White Orchard:

 

Aldert Geert: "Aldert Geert, assistant professor in contemporary history at Oxenfurt Academy"

Geralt: "Geralt of Rivia, Witcher with tenure"

[FKA_Servo]

General observation about some idiosyncrasies about the setting.

 

Spoiler

So it's a fictional setting, clearly, that also seems to be a reasonably faithful rendition of circa 13th century northern Europe generally (moreso than DA certainly, where the real-world historical period analog seems to vary by nation). And yet there are these occasional anachronisms (which isn't necessarily that weird) and references that just strike me as odd. In TW1, we perform what I would characterize as a modern autopsy. In chapter 1 of TW2, Triss gives us this strange little lecture about evolution via natural selection. They (obviously, cuz witchers and stuff) have a reasonably sophisticated (in-universe if not specifically biologically accurate) understanding of mutation. And the toothbrush is not unknown, either, it would seem.

 

Meanwhile, I'm still hitting up the local full service barber for a bloodletting to re-balance my humours and stopping by the blacksmith across the way for a tooth extraction. Seems like the underlying knowledge that would be foundational to insights RE the above are absent. Later on, the passwords when meeting with Iorveth and the scoiatael are Kierkegaard and Heidegger (though I guess I would just regard this one as an easter egg, it still struck me when I heard it).

 

It's just strange. Is stuff like this accurate to the books, or is it added by CDPR's writers?

[KBomb]

I love Geralt's voice. In TW3, he has a lot of funny and genuinely sweet moments that his voice conveys beautifully.

As for Yen, I like her, but you know.

#Trissforever

Although, in this playthrough I am romancing Yennifer just to see how it plays out. I find her and Geralt's relationship to be a bit too chaotic. So much immaturity and drama going on. I hate drama and immaturity in relationships. I like to think Triss is like his shelter in a storm.

[Das Tentakel]

General observation about some idiosyncrasies about the setting.
 

Spoiler

So it's a fictional setting, clearly, that also seems to be a reasonably faithful rendition of circa 13th century northern Europe generally (moreso than DA certainly, where the real-world historical period analog seems to vary by nation). And yet there are these occasional anachronisms (which isn't necessarily that weird) and references that just strike me as odd. In TW1, we perform what I would characterize as a modern autopsy. In chapter 1 of TW2, Triss gives us this strange little lecture about evolution via natural selection. They (obviously, cuz witchers and stuff) have a reasonably sophisticated (in-universe if not specifically biologically accurate) understanding of mutation. And the toothbrush is not unknown, either, it would seem.
 
Meanwhile, I'm still hitting up the local full service barber for a bloodletting to re-balance my humours and stopping by the blacksmith across the way for a tooth extraction. Seems like the underlying knowledge that would be foundational to insights RE the above are absent. Later on, the passwords when meeting with Iorveth and the scoiatael are Kierkegaard and Heidegger (though I guess I would just regard this one as an easter egg, it still struck me when I heard it).

 
It's just strange. Is stuff like this accurate to the books, or is it added by CDPR's writers?

 
The fact that the material culture looks reasonably consistent is CDPR's work. The anachronisms are either from Sapkowski or Sapkowskisms, meaning CDPR imitating Sapkowski's style and methods. The Witcher universe isn't very good worldbuilding, but suits what Sapkowski wants from his stories (meaning a vaguely defined background he can alter or modify at will). He also took the names of historical or literary characters 1:1 or with slight modifications for his stories.
 
Two examples he nicked from my country's history (but we Dutch Witcher fans totally forgive him for it ) are Nilfgaardian Marshal Menno Coehoorn, based on 17th century Dutch general and fortification expert Menno, baron van Coehoorn...
 

 
...the original...(sort of dead-ish, just like...
 

 
...his Nilfgaardian spiritual descendant...
 
Another is Nilfgaardian general Rhetz de Mellis-Stoke. The general's surname is a play on Melis Stoke, the author of the medieval 'Rhyming Chronicle of Holland'.
 
Really, Witcherverse is a messy pastiche of epic proportions, but it's a nerdy, clever, well-informed pastiche. I like it, while admitting it's horrible worldbuilding from an immersion perspective. But man, does it make me chuckle...
 
In a sense, CDPR 'moulded' the Witcherverse into something that is more coherent and consistent than Sapkowski's creation, though they mainly did this through the visuals.

[Torgette]

I love his voice. I can't imagine any other voice for Geralt

 

Me neither, but I still find it funny.

[DreamSever]

im loving the boat battles with sirens, little things like that make the game epic, no matter where you go your life is always in constant danger, ah fun times

[FKA_Servo]

 
The fact that the material culture looks reasonably consistent is CDPR's work. The anachronisms are either from Sapkowski or Sapkowskisms, meaning CDPR imitating Sapkowski's style and methods. The Witcher universe isn't very good worldbuilding, but suits what Sapkowski wants from his stories (meaning a vaguely defined background he can alter or modify at will). He also took the names of historical or literary characters 1:1 or with slight modifications for his stories.
 
Two examples he nicked from my country's history (but we Dutch Witcher fans totally forgive him for it ) are Nilfgaardian Marshal Menno Coehoorn, based on 17th century Dutch general and fortification expert Menno, baron van Coehoorn...
 
 
...the original...(sort of dead-ish, just like...
 
...his Nilfgaardian spiritual descendant...
 
Another is Nilfgaardian general Rhetz de Mellis-Stoke. The general's surname is a play on Melis Stoke, the author of the medieval 'Rhyming Chronicle of Holland'.
 
Really, Witcherverse is a messy pastiche of epic proportions, but it's a nerdy, clever, well-informed pastiche. I like it, while admitting it's horrible worldbuilding from an immersion perspective. But man, does it make me chuckle...
 
In a sense, CDPR 'moulded' the Witcherverse into something that is more coherent and consistent than Sapkowski's creation, though they mainly did this through the visuals.

 

Nice, thanks. It does strike me as just a generally weird setting, and yes - incoherent, especially when held up to really storied settings like DA (varying opinions about DAI notwithstanding, dat worldbuilding. The depth and breadth of the history as revealed in the two World of Thedas volumes is a goddamn triumph). This isn't necessarily bad, as it clearly works just fine moment to moment, and frankly, there's something to be said for "weird." But it doesn't really confer the same sense of history that you get elsewhere.

 

I do dig the historical references you single out though, and I will get a kick out of any future examples I find. I'm wary of reading too much outside material at the moment for fear of spoiling more than I already have of the second and third games. I picked up the "World of the Witcher" at the bookstore the other day, but had to put it back down pretty fast for this reason.

 

RE the last bit though, I would never underestimate the power of a great unifying aesthetic, which at least post TW1, the series seems to have in spades. I've admired the design in TW2 since long before I first tried the game (honestly, my Skyrim games may as well have been it, considering my mod list). TW3 looks beautiful, and collectively, the two are dead even with Mass Effect (which I still think is a paralyzingly lovely series, even as I frequently hate on... most aspects of it beyond the first game) in this regard.

[Das Tentakel]

Nice, thanks. It does strike me as just a generally weird setting, and yes - incoherent, especially when held up to really storied settings like DA (varying opinions about DAI notwithstanding, dat worldbuilding. The depth and breadth of the history as revealed in the two World of Thedas volumes is a goddamn triumph).
 
I do dig the historical references you single out though, and I will get a kick out of any future examples I find. I'm wary about reading to much outside material at the moment for fear of spoiling more than I already have of the second and third games. I picked up the "World of the Witcher" at the bookstore the other day, but had to put it back down pretty fast for this reason.
 
RE the last bit though, I would never underestimate the power of a great unifying aesthetic, which at least post TW1, the series seems to have in spades. I've admired the design in TW2 since long before I first tried the game (honestly, my Skyrim games may as well have been it, considering my mod list). TW3 looks beautiful, and collectively, the two are dead even with Mass Effect (which I still think is a paralyzingly lovely series, even as I frequently hate on... most aspects of it beyond the first game) in this regard.

What you have to understand is that Sapkowski's creation was never meant for roleplaying. A lot of literary settings, even if they are more consistent than Sapkowski's creation, are not particularly well-suited for RPG's. They generally lack the kind of detail and sometimes also the internal logic to make them good material for roleplaying.

Sapkowski did, apparently, write an RPG, 'Oko Yrrhedesa' (The Eye of Yrrhedes), but I have no idea whether that came with its own setting and whether he would be any good at it. A few things I've read suggest he's somewhat cavalier when it comes to the minutiae of worldbuilding. Lucky for us, CDPR's devs do have an eye for detail.

They also do their research. Apart from some of the devs being reenactors themselves, I saw a reference to 'Grunwald 2012' among the credits after the game ended. I suspect they attended the 2012 reenactment of the First Battle of Tannenberg (Grunwald in Polish) and made a humongous amount of photographs for The Witcher III.
When it comes to research of this kind Poland is very well-placed anyway; it's one of the main centres of historical reenactment in Europe, with some of the largest events on the entire continent.