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I play on PS4 prefer the controller easier on my arthritic fingers, ;) Yes I know I used to play on pc with a controller, unfortunately my pc is old and it is about £2000 for a gaming pc, on top of which I can't remain seated for too long due to a painful (as in chronic pain even with morphine) problem with my hips and spine... console gaming allows me to laydown and play as and when I need too (yes I know pc gaming could allow that too but again it boils down to the cost of a set up), was especially useful when I was undergoing chemo too as I was too weak to sit but could still game a little... yeah I know if I was a horse they would have shot me... LOL

 

Err... you dont really need a £2000 gaming PC... that is like what 3000 USD? That is a 980ti SLI / Fury X Crossfire setup.  :o Absolutely overkill unless you want to play on 4K 60 FPS. (To put it in perspective, a 980ti SLI/Fury X crossfire is so powerful that if you somehow manage to combine a PS4 and a XB1 together into 1 console, it will still explode if they try to run anything that is even remotely close to what this setup can produce :lol:  :lol:  :lol: )

 

You can plug your PC into your TV and get a Wireless controller.  ;)



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I play on PS4 prefer the controller easier on my arthritic fingers, ;) Yes I know I used to play on pc with a controller, unfortunately my pc is old and it is about £2000 for a gaming pc, on top of which I can't remain seated for too long due to a painful (as in chronic pain even with morphine) problem with my hips and spine... console gaming allows me to laydown and play as and when I need too (yes I know pc gaming could allow that too but again it boils down to the cost of a set up), was especially useful when I was undergoing chemo too as I was too weak to sit but could still game a little... yeah I know if I was a horse they would have shot me... LOL

 

Oooh. Ah yeah you could get one significantly cheaper but you'd have to build it :(

 

Don't say that! DX Glad you're feeling better at any rate :)
 

But that sucks. I wish they could at least realize some of the best mods as dlc after giving the mod authors a royalty bonus >_> that'd be far better than paid mods at any rate.

 

Common, Skyrim is good at many things but story is definitely not one of them :P

 

XD

 

I love my Skyrim but yeah.

 

*sigh* God the thieves guild quests. I know there's a mod to tell lol no to selling your soul to nocturnal but it's so stupid they even put that in the game.
 


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Same goes for refugees and villagers in DAI they are cardboard cutouts who ignore the danger around them, and people complained about clones in W3, :D I got sick of the sight of the same little gang of refugees camping around places in DAI even the middle of a freaking stream with a roaring camp fire! In W3 the refugees look truly displaced, the women crying etc... or groups in villages gathered around a fire, not camped out in the wilderness. In DAI I had camped refugees who sat perfectly calmly while my Inquisitor battled freaking bears right next to them, my team actually standing in their camp, not a flicker of acknowledgement. Same goes for those stupid troops in DAI in the middle of nowhere with chests of worthless junk, they don't lift a finger to help if you battle near them. In W3 any soldiers close by when you are battling anything will pitch in and help.

 

Yeah they lacked AI and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to it being on both gen of consoles.

 

Then again I can't recall BW random encounters that weren't dumb as a sack of rocks.



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PC is not that expensive if you are building one and know what you need

You don't need to have the latest graphics card to play a new release. My card is from 2013 and I'm doing fine with TW3. I also plug in a controller because I think the combat for this game works better with it



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Yeah they lacked AI and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to it being on both gen of consoles.

 

Then again I can't recall BW random encounters that weren't dumb as a sack of rocks.

 

Not really... at least it shouldnt be because Skyrim is also on last gen and the NPCs are not cardboard cutouts... they are pretty lively... so lively that they are annoying. They will follow you into your house and give you a piece of their mind before leaving and slamming the door on you. Oh... I hate those brats in Skyrim.


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Not really... at least it shouldnt be because Skyrim is also on last gen and the NPCs are not cardboard cutouts... they are pretty lively... so lively that they are annoying. They will follow you into your house and give you a piece of their mind before leaving and slamming the door on you. Oh... I hate those brats in Skyrim.

 

I admit without shame (one of anyway after the make these faces less ugly as hell mods) first thing I installed was a child killing mod so I could stab that brat Braith in the stomach.

 

I only did it once.

 

But it felt so goooooood.

 

Yeah but Skyrim made other compromises to be able to do that. So it's always a balancing act. 

 

But yeah I'd love a BW game with actual AI in the background instead of just static talkers. It'd need to be on only this gen though especially if we're gonna get decent graphics to go with it.



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Err... you dont really need a £2000 gaming PC... that is like what 3000 USD? That is a 980ti SLI / Fury X Crossfire setup.  :o[/size] Absolutely overkill unless you want to play on 4K 60 FPS. (To put it in perspective, a 980ti SLI/Fury X crossfire is so powerful that if you somehow manage to combine a PS4 and a XB1 together into 1 console, it will still explode if they try to run anything that is even remotely close to what this setup can produce :lol:[/size]  :lol:[/size]  :lol:[/size] [/size])[/size]
 
You can plug your PC into your TV and get a Wireless controller.  ;)

  

PC is not that expensive if you are building one and know what you need
You don't need to have the latest graphics card to play a new release. My card is from 2013 and I'm doing fine with TW3. I also plug in a controller because I think the combat for this game works better with it


Except I can't build my own, I have no idea where to start now and even when I had my current one built about 8 or more years ago it cost me over £1000, without going for the expensive cards etc and it can't even play Witcher 2 :( So I would have to buy a readymade gaming pc and those are really expensive here. :( So have no choice but to stick with console gaming unless I win the lottery LOL.

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Some are tortured and their lives are sapped as fuel, but the focus is upon the fashion; problem may lie with the beholder, and not the cut-scene.

Prefer the populace of DAI that speak in various moods rather than NPC's describing excrement and bathroom procedures, but I am choosy like that.

Prefer the option to create a character in DAI, as well as a wider range of dialogue choices to bolster the personality desired as opposed to some other titles. And if one does like to use head canon, seems easier for the Player to work with the wider array of options in DAI than ignore the lack of choices elsewhere.

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Yeah they lacked AI and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to it being on both gen of consoles.
 
Then again I can't recall BW random encounters that weren't dumb as a sack of rocks.

Don't think being on last gen is a reason, the Skyrim npcs move around and interact, and in Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, pretty sure they did in a few other games too.

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Common, Skyrim is good at many things but story is definitely not one of them :P


Depends on the specific story. Skyrim is the only TES game I have played thus far, but I was quite pleased with what was included for Frostflow Lighthouse, the Dark Brotherhood, the MQ involving Paarth, and many of the storied dungeons, ruins, and other sites.

Still prefer Bioware games and story based titles, but Skyrim has made me a fan of what a sandbox can do.

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That's because you could probably relate more to a male protag. Which is good. I for one tend to play female characters if given the choice (unless fem voice is intolerable).

 

 

I play both male and female characters. I have no issues with playing female characters, be it a single player or multi player game.

 

You say Geralt had relationships and it all felt very natural I felt the same with my Inquisitor as a bonus I had the ability to choose the relationships and how they went. Also Inquisition's CC save for the terrible hair...was actually pretty good. Not sure where you're getting terrible from. If the hair choices hadn't been hot garbage and there had been face codes it wouldn't have been good actually.

 

 

Unfortunately, in a computer game, the hair is hugely important. And it was not only badly done, but it came off as lazy. It really did. 14-15 choices, 10 of which are bob cuts is - and I mean this - insulting to me as a gamer. I should just be content with that for 60 EUR? Nah, screw that.
I understand bugs. I tolerate certain game designs I don't agree with if the game overall is good enough. But when the devs are lazy and use the "ah just do it like this, the plebs will buy it anyway"... Yeah, screw that. 

Beards were awful too btw. Like something from 2008 instead of 2014.

Faces themselves were fine, though I had to work for hours to get a decent.-looking female character done.

 

(Also I'm forever amused by people going "Why doesn't my custom character have motivations!" Um...part of a custom character is making those motivations. The only issues is when there's nothing in the game to support them or when the game goes out of it's way to try to impose certain character defining (that aren't strictly survival related) motivations on your character.) The game should give you a several reasons to want to do something but you choose your character's actual motivation for going along with the plot whether it's fame, revenge, glory, screw you or just survival.

 

 

I didn't say "my custom character" had poor motivations, I said my Inquisitor.

Warden Origin story (Human Noble especially) is a perfect example of how to get introduced to your character in a way you get to meet him/her, the family, the friends, the home, etc.

Hawke was messy (running, because well, "action", and your sibling gets wasted 3 minutes in when you had basically no contact with them).

Honestly, both DA2 and DA:I feel like they were done for someone with the attention span of a donkey. You start off basically in combat because they were afraid your average non-RPG gamer would be scared away by too much talking in the beginning etc.

 

For what it's worth, there are custom characters that were presented to me and then I do my part and I love them (DA:Origins, BG, etc.), and there are those where I do most of it on my own and I love them too, just for different reasons (Skyrim, etc.).

 

 

Or the devs not finding children significant enough to warrant adding them.

 

So instead of rape being implied we need it said said flat out?

 

 

How do you not include children, how are children not significant? I mean, you're just deluding yourself there.

Again, for about the 4th time I think, if you're trying to create a world where war is prevalent in a medieval world and the game is trying to be adult about it... Do it right or don't do it at all.

Surely when people talk in those situations they don't work they way around stuff and "implying" things? Surely they swear and cuss, these soldiers and warriors? Surely, you want an authentic experience and to experience these events as realistically as possible?

 

I mean, it's like comparing The Wire to something like CSI:Miami.

Sure, The Wire doesn't go out of its way to grasp the casual viewer in the first episode. But when you get into it, you realize how "real" it is, and you realize it's a work of art. CSI:Miami is nice and all for a casual viewing while you eat something at your living room table, but it looks ridiculous in comparison to The Wire.

 

One is trying to be authentic and real, the other isn't (and for all the wrong reasons).

 

People in the DA universe are able to read that's obvious in origins. Each origin is able to read from CE, to dalish elf, to dwarven commoner, to human noble. No matter your station you can read. It is a fundamental skill in origins setting. In able to be like the Witcher dragon age would have to violate it's own lore. (PC isn't even a special snowflake because there's signs in the poor quarters of said city so unless they only expected the PC to read them...) So we want DA to ignore all 3 past games to be like typical medieval settings to be more dark? That's what you want?  :huh: I can get the rape thing. But this is absurd.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say by the "being able" to read comments? Do all people read in Thedas? I hardly think so, where do peasants learn to read? I mean, whether you like it or not, DA is a game set in a more-or-less classic WRP fantasy setting, which means based on medieval anglo-saxon Europe. Naturally, every fantasy setting is different in some way, but most stick to the nobles-commoners-peasants feudal society.

(which roughly means: King - nobles/church leaders - knights/vassals or bannermen - soldiers, merchants, craftsmen - peasants, serfs)

 

As for the game being "dark", I want to be clear on this.I don't need "dark". I don't need "gritty".

I need serious, grown-up, adult, realistic.

Origins was fine in that regards IMO. It had some hard choices, realistic motivations, realistic consequences...

And then it all went pear-shaped in DA:2 and DA:I. And it started by trying to appeal to broader audience and trying to lure in your non-RPG gamer.

 

Now I can see some of your points but others. DA's setting is not typical medieval fanfare and it shouldn't be treated as such. Females are in power, sexism is for the most part marginalized (it's there but it's more in parity with modern day western world than medieval and honestly I like it that way. If it changed I'd stop playing these games), Racism is against other species (though yeah other race Inquisitor could've caught a bit more flak. You did get a bit too much shield for hand but I assumed that was survival instinct. Who's gonna be stupid enough to insult person who opens a black hole to the fade in their hand?)

 

 

DA is typical medieval fantasy fanfare. Females are in power in Witcher too, but bad things happen to women in wars when armies move.

Females are in power in basically all fantasy settings, regardless of whether the commoner and peasant wives are treated equally.

The difference between the Witcher and DA:I is that one game stays true to what its trying to say (realistic evens for real people) and the other tries its hardest not to go into touchy subjects or to offend anyone. 

 

That said I do agree with Leliana being more bruised I don't agree with the whole "there's been no damage to her!" marginalization it's a bad way of trying to making a point. It's obvious what's happened as soon as she opened her mouth. Would some visuals have supported that nicely? Yes but what they did use (the voice acting) did just as well.

 

 

My point wasn't that "no damage was done to her". My point is that when someone is imprisoned for a year, you will not find them in the same clothes, let alone same armor after the said year has past. My point was that someone like Leliana would've likely been stripped the first day, before any torture took place. For humiliation purposes at least, without even getting to the sexual torment she'd likely be exposed to.

My point is that the scene was done lazily, unconvincingly and just plain badly.

 

 

That said I do agree with some of your complaints but others just feel like...you're trying to put one game into another like sticking a square box in a circle hole. It's not gonna fit man.

 

 

I'm really don't think my expectations are too high.
I want a believable world with "real" people and realistic events. I want the game to treat me as an adult and not compromise its story and setting in order not to offend anyone. 

 

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Don't think being on last gen is a reason, the Skyrim npcs move around and interact, and in Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, pretty sure they did in a few other games too.

 

Yeah but BioWare usually trades that off for your

 

 

 

 

I play both male and female characters. I have no issues with playing female characters, be it a single player or multi player game.

 

 

Unfortunately, in a computer game, the hair is hugely important. And it was not only badly done, but it came off as lazy. It really did. 14-15 choices, 10 of which are bob cuts is - and I mean this - insulting to me as a gamer. I should just be content with that for 60 EUR? Nah, screw that.
I understand bugs. I tolerate certain game designs I don't agree with if the game overall is good enough. But when the devs are lazy and use the "ah just do it like this, the plebs will buy it anyway"... Yeah, screw that. 

Beards were awful too btw. Like something from 2008 instead of 2014.

Faces themselves were fine, though I had to work for hours to get a decent.-looking female character done.

 

 

I didn't say "my custom character" had poor motivations, I said my Inquisitor.

Warden Origin story (Human Noble especially) is a perfect example of how to get introduced to your character in a way you get to meet him/her, the family, the friends, the home, etc.

Hawke was messy (running, because well, "action", and your sibling gets wasted 3 minutes in when you had basically no contact with them).

Honestly, both DA2 and DA:I feel like they were done for someone with the attention span of a donkey. You start off basically in combat because they were afraid your average non-RPG gamer would be scared away by too much talking in the beginning etc.

 

For what it's worth, there are custom characters that were presented to me and then I do my part and I love them (DA:Origins, BG, etc.), and there are those where I do most of it on my own and I love them too, just for different reasons (Skyrim, etc.).

 

 

 

How do you not include children, how are children not significant? I mean, you're just deluding yourself there.

Again, for about the 4th time I think, if you're trying to create a world where war is prevalent in a medieval world and the game is trying to be adult about it... Do it right or don't do it at all.

Surely when people talk in those situations they don't work they way around stuff and "implying" things? Surely they swear and cuss, these soldiers and warriors? Surely, you want an authentic experience and to experience these events as realistically as possible?

 

I mean, it's like comparing The Wire to something like CSI:Miami.

Sure, The Wire doesn't go out of its way to grasp the casual viewer in the first episode. But when you get into it, you realize how "real" it is, and you realize it's a work of art. CSI:Miami is nice and all for a casual viewing while you eat something at your living room table, but it looks ridiculous in comparison to The Wire.

 

One is trying to be authentic and real, the other isn't (and for all the wrong reasons).

 

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say by the "being able" to read comments? Do all people read in Thedas? I hardly think so, where do peasants learn to read? I mean, whether you like it or not, DA is a game set in a more-or-less classic WRP fantasy setting, which means based on medieval anglo-saxon Europe. Naturally, every fantasy setting is different in some way, but most stick to the nobles-commoners-peasants feudal society.

(which roughly means: King - nobles/church leaders - knights/vassals or bannermen - soldiers, merchants, craftsmen - peasants, serfs)

 

As for the game being "dark", I want to be clear on this.I don't need "dark". I don't need "gritty".

I need serious, grown-up, adult, realistic.

Origins was fine in that regards IMO. It had some hard choices, realistic motivations, realistic consequences...

And then it all went pear-shaped in DA:2 and DA:I. And it started by trying to appeal to broader audience and trying to lure in your non-RPG gamer.

 

 

DA is typical medieval fantasy fanfare. Females are in power in Witcher too, but bad things happen to women in wars when armies move.

Females are in power in basically all fantasy settings, regardless of whether the commoner and peasant wives are treated equally.

The difference between the Witcher and DA:I is that one game stays true to what its trying to say (realistic evens for real people) and the other tries its hardest not to go into touchy subjects or to offend anyone. 

 

 

My point wasn't that "no damage was done to her". My point is that when someone is imprisoned for a year, you will not find them in the same clothes, let alone same armor after the said year has past. My point was that someone like Leliana would've likely been stripped the first day, before any torture took place. For humiliation purposes at least, without even getting to the sexual torment she'd likely be exposed to.

My point is that the scene was done lazily, unconvincingly and just plain badly.

 

 

 

I'm really don't think my expectations are too high.
I want a believable world with "real" people and realistic events. I want the game to treat me as an adult and not compromise its story and setting in order not to offend anyone. 

 

 

That white font background whatever the hell it is is making my eyes bleed man. Sorry I can't read that. You're gonna have to give me a minute to convert that to something legible. Seriously why did you change your posting format. That is terrible.



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Looks the same to me

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Yeah but BioWare usually trades that off for your
 
 
That white font background whatever the hell it is is making my eyes bleed man. Sorry I can't read that. You're gonna have to give me a minute to convert that to something legible. Seriously why did you change your posting format. That is terrible.


May have to do with the choice of using a dark motif for BSN; also see it as a white screen.

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Looks the same to me

 

 

May have to do with the choice of using a dark motif for BSN; also see it as a white screen.

 

Ahhhh. That might the issue.



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But this. Hellz no. Besides. There's a mod for that.

Well, I don't want to buy a game for fan created story mods. It's like saying I should be paying for a game that's lacking but the players will fix it.

I did not even install a single mod on DAO til after my 5th play though, and never once installed a fan made story mods. Only cosmetics, cutscenes and bug fixes.
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Well, I don't want to buy a game for fan created story mods. It's like saying I should be paying for a game that's lacking but the players will fix it.

I did not even a single mod on DAO til after my 5th play though, and never once installed a fan made story mods. Only cosmetics, cutscenes and bug fixes.

 

It's not a story mod. Not necessarily. Just mods to make you need to eat, sleep, drink so on. Immersion. XD

 

But hey you're missing out on not getting PC skyrim.

 

ENB Skyrim is beautiful.

 

Also wtf it won't let me post my reply to Cort. OFFS.


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Except I can't build my own, I have no idea where to start now and even when I had my current one built about 8 or more years ago it cost me over £1000, without going for the expensive cards etc and it can't even play Witcher 2 :( So I would have to buy a readymade gaming pc and those are really expensive here. :( So have no choice but to stick with console gaming unless I win the lottery LOL.

 

To be honest I built my current PC and added all the upgrades over the years, and this is my first one

No one taught me, I only found out by reading stuff on the internet, it's all very simple



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Well, I don't want to buy a game for fan created story mods. It's like saying I should be paying for a game that's lacking but the players will fix it.

I did not even install a single mod on DAO til after my 5th play though, and never once installed a fan made story mods. Only cosmetics, cutscenes and bug fixes.


FWIW, I played 700+ hrs of Vanilla Skyrim, adding only a single mod during that time (ie; No More Blocky Faces). The game does not require mods to be playable. That said, after watching Gophervids tutorials, LP's, and various recommendations, I have managed a total of 2800+ hrs with a modded Skyrim, and now await SkyWind. Recommended.

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Corto81, on 25 Jul 2015 - 2:09 PM, said:  I play both male and female characters. I have no issues with playing female characters, be it a single player or multi player game.
Unfortunately, in a computer game, the hair is hugely important. And it was not only badly done, but it came off as lazy. It really did. 14-15 choices, 10 of which are bob cuts is - and I mean this - insulting to me as a gamer. I should just be content with that for 60 EUR? Nah, screw that.
I understand bugs. I tolerate certain game designs I don't agree with if the game overall is good enough. But when the devs are lazy and use the "ah just do it like this, the plebs will buy it anyway"... Yeah, screw that.
Beards were awful too btw. Like something from 2008 instead of 2014.
Faces themselves were fine, though I had to work for hours to get a decent.-looking female character done.


And that's good for you? are you male or female? Because as a female one gets tired of constantly playing male and playing their relationships in their dominated worlds. Its gets dull dull dull fast fast fast.


Some don't mind it. I do.
I rather play a dude in a game that offers me a choice than a dude in a forced game.
To top it off I don't find Geralt physically attractive. The one thing that would keep me playing a dude in a game. Yes I'm shallow.


I agree the hair it was terrible so baaaaaaaad. Especially the chick hair. I was just looking at the chick hair with a "you wut mate?" And the qunari female don't get me started the qunari female hair. I could go one for days THE ****** TAROT CARD. OH GOD THE TAROT CARD.

Actually the games bugs got WORSE with the patches. My game actually ran better on release. Smh.

lol BW beards are always bad.

Faces are really due to the player. I've seen some beautiful faces. You just have to take the time. And the ****** shitty lighting (WHY DO THEY ALWAYS USE THE WORST LIGHTING AND THEY LIED AND SAID THEY USED NEUTRAL LIGHTING) doesn't help.

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This forum system is really gonna make me post is quote by quote.

 

I hate you.

 

 
 

 

I didn't say "my custom character" had poor motivations, I said my Inquisitor.
Warden Origin story (Human Noble especially) is a perfect example of how to get introduced to your character in a way you get to meet him/her, the family, the friends, the home, etc.
Hawke was messy (running, because well, "action", and your sibling gets wasted 3 minutes in when you had basically no contact with them).
Honestly, both DA2 and DA:I feel like they were done for someone with the attention span of a donkey. You start off basically in combat because they were afraid your average non-RPG gamer would be scared away by too much talking in the beginning etc.

You Inquisitor has perfect motivation just because you weren't listening isn't the game's fault. That hole in your hand gets bigger til you close the the rift. Survival is the motivation that works for all character types unless your PC is suicidal in which case just get a nonstandard game over. Problem solved. After that it's safety in numbers because Cory is out for you. It's a basic motivation.

Hawke starts decent. Family obviously. You're listening to your mother. You might think she's addled and ridiculous but she's your mother so yeah you're going to go along with what she says It's not like there's really a reason to stuggle against her at that point. That breaks apart after act 2 though. Which is where it falls apart.

 

 

For what it's worth, there are custom characters that were presented to me and then I do my part and I love them (DA:Origins, BG, etc.), and there are those where I do most of it on my own and I love them too, just for different reasons (Skyrim, etc.).


Which is fine. But not liking the motivation is different from one not being there. (Like Hawke's motivation being saving Kirkwall. There's that for DA2 it completely is against my Hawke's character and MAKES NO SENSE for my PC as portrayed but it's differently there for Hawke's (as seen in some dialogue choices)

 

 

 

How do you not include children, how are children not significant? I mean, you're just deluding yourself there.

Because sometimes they're not? I mean...if those bastards vanished from Skyrim I would not give a damn. Missing those snooty comments would give me a sigh of relief. I'm not sure why you think everyone valued what you do but I don't. I don't require snot nosed brats to immerse myself in the world.
 

 

Again, for about the 4th time I think, if you're trying to create a world where war is prevalent in a medieval world and the game is trying to be adult about it... Do it right or don't do it at all.

Surely when people talk in those situations they don't work they way around stuff and "implying" things? Surely they swear and cuss, these soldiers and warriors? Surely, you want an authentic experience and to experience these events as realistically as possible? I mean, it's like comparing The Wire to something like CSI:Miami.


Sure, The Wire doesn't go out of its way to grasp the casual viewer in the first episode. But when you get into it, you realize how "real" it is, and you realize it's a work of art. CSI:Miami is nice and all for a casual viewing while you eat something at your living room table, but it looks ridiculous in comparison to The Wire.

One is trying to be authentic and real, the other isn't (and for all the wrong reasons).


Except you're trying to act like DAI Is completely bleached when it's not. I don't watch either of those shows so what ever analogy you're attempting to make I don't get. But if it's another fake real vs real real comparison that's fair enough.


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I'm not sure what you're trying to say by the "being able" to read comments? Do all people read in Thedas? I hardly think so, where do peasants learn to read? I mean, whether you like it or not, DA is a game set in a more-or-less classic WRP fantasy setting, which means based on medieval anglo-saxon Europe. Naturally, every fantasy setting is different in some way, but most stick to the nobles-commoners-peasants feudal society.

(which roughly means: King - nobles/church leaders - knights/vassals or bannermen - soldiers, merchants, craftsmen - peasants, serfs)


They can read is what I'm trying to say. Trying to go "But but other medieval do it like so DA should!" is absurd because DA isn't those medieval games and I'm sick of people thinking DA should jump on every other medieval games throat. And yes it's highly impled that most people in the da setting can at least read by the abundance of signs and such in poor quarters where you know the Poor are. There's no need for signs in written words directed towards the poor if they can't read them. There's no need for Varric to make a joke about Aveline having a sign that simply says "Don't" towards bandits if they can't READ THE SIGN. Most people in the DA setting can read. That is part of the setting. They can read.
 

As for the game being "dark", I want to be clear on this.I don't need "dark". I don't need "gritty".

I need serious, grown-up, adult, realistic.

Origins was fine in that regards IMO. It had some hard choices, realistic motivations, realistic consequences...

And then it all went pear-shaped in DA:2 and DA:I. And it started by trying to appeal to broader audience and trying to lure in your non-RPG gamer.


You mean the origins where everyone could read?
That Origins? Because that ignored your so valued medieval rule.
That origins with happily ever after get out of jail 3rd options? Like there werewolves, Loghain, and the mages?
That Origins?
Oh I'll take that.
[:D]
People have such rose tinted glasses when it came to Origins grimdarkness I swear to god. It's like they remembered the Dark ritual and nothing else.
 

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It's not a story mod. Not necessarily. Just mods to make you need to eat, sleep, drink so on. Immersion. XD
 
But hey you're missing out on not getting PC skyrim.
 
ENB Skyrim is beautiful.
 
Also wtf it won't let me post my reply to Cort. OFFS.


I have always played on pc and had pc skyrim. I did not own a console till I had to buy ps4 to play Inquisition cuz pc ctrls are poo ( total waste of money)

And I don't care about those mods. I need good stories like DAO and in great length, TW3 offers. That was my original grief with skyrim.

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Every race you chose has a "background" to them...in text. They should have showed some of it. The Inquisitor being sent to the conclave, talking to some people involved in it, hell, saying goodbye to his/her parents or whatever. I want to know my character.


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DA is typical medieval fantasy fanfare. Females are in power in Witcher too, but bad things happen to women in wars when armies move.
Females are in power in basically all fantasy settings, regardless of whether the commoner and peasant wives are treated equally.
The difference between the Witcher and DA:I is that one game stays true to what its trying to say (realistic evens for real people) and the other tries its hardest not to go into touchy subjects or to offend anyone.

I hate to burst your bad things happen to women in wars when armies move but men get raped in wars when armies move too. But no one wants to talk about that though. And it's not uncommon. But no one brings that up though. Oh noes. It's only women. Only women have that to fear.

What does that even mean.

*rolls eyes*

My point wasn't that "no damage was done to her". My point is that when someone is imprisoned for a year, you will not find them in the same clothes, let alone same armor after the said year has past. My point was that someone like Leliana would've likely been stripped the first day, before any torture took place. For humiliation purposes at least, without even getting to the sexual torment she'd likely be exposed to.
My point is that the scene was done lazily, unconvincingly and just plain badly. I'm really don't think my expectations are too high.
I want a believable world with "real" people and realistic events. I want the game to treat me as an adult and not compromise its story and setting in order not to offend anyone.

Oh I agree she should've been in some rags or something. *shrug*  
And I want a game to not make me feel nauseous and not enjoyable. Once I feel that way I usually put the game down. I don't want to feel that way in a BW game. I felt that way during the DR til I found out about sacrificing Loghain. I don't like feeling that way during BW games.