I have always played on pc and had pc skyrim. I did not own a console till I had to buy ps4 to play Inquisition cuz pc ctrls are poo ( total waste of money)
And I don't care about those mods. I need good stories like DAO and in great length, TW3 offers. That was my original grief with skyrim.
Then why you could've modded all that 
Yeah you don't play Skyrim for the story XD
They can read is what I'm trying to say. Trying to go "But but other medieval do it like so DA should!" is absurd because DA isn't those medieval games and I'm sick of people thinking DA should jump on every other medieval games throat. And yes it's highly impled that most people in the da setting can at least read by the abundance of signs and such in poor quarters where you know the Poor are. There's no need for signs in written words directed towards the poor if they can't read them. There's no need for Varric to make a joke about Aveline having a sign that simply says "Don't" towards bandits if they can't READ THE SIGN. Most people in the DA setting can read. That is part of the setting. They can read.
You mean the origins where everyone could read?
That Origins? Because that ignored your so valued medieval rule.
That origins with happily ever after get out of jail 3rd options? Like there werewolves, Loghain, and the mages?
That Origins?
Oh I'll take that.
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People have such rose tinted glasses when it came to Origins grimdarkness I swear to god. It's like they remembered the Dark ritual and nothing else.
Compared to DA2, DAI, hell yeah Origins is darker lol. These games have been dumbed down more and more. Next game we'll probably have some Frozen crap, and the new EAware crowd will love it because oh noes, we can't have dirty words and orphans, it's too much for us.
Compared to DA2, DAI, hell yeah Origins is darker lol. These games have been dumbed down more and more. Next game we'll probably have some Frozen crap, and the new EAware crowd will love it because oh noes, we can't have dirty words and orphans, it's too much for us.
*shrugs* then the ones that mind it will move on to CDProject who give them what they crave and those who don't mind it will stay here. I don't see the problem.
I hate to burst your bad things happen to women in wars when armies move but men get raped in wars when armies move too. But no one wants to talk about that though. And it's not uncommon. But no one brings that up though. Oh noes. It's only women. Only women have that to fear.
What does that even mean.
Um, what's your point?
Do you ever remember in history savage men proud that they conquered a nation and raped THE MEN? Yes, it did happen, but sodomy was not something soldiers would gladly reveal.
The point is the "weak" are always the victim during wars. Men used to violate women of other nations as an idea of a final "domination" over the people. As a final insult to the conquered people. That's a fact.
*shrugs* then the ones that mind it will move on to CDProject who give them what they crave and those who don't mind it will stay here. I don't see the problem.
You mean realism? Yeah, I prefer that and will probably stick with CDPR, obviously.
You mean realism? Yeah, I prefer that and will probably stick with CDPR, obviously.
Good. Then we both win May both companies prosper and continue to make great games that their audiences enjoy.
Um, what's your point?
Do you ever remember in history savage men proud that they conquered a nation and raped THE MEN? Yes, it did happen, but sodomy was not something soldiers would gladly reveal.
The point is the "weak" are always the victim during wars. Men used to violate women of other nations as an idea of a final "domination" over the people. As a final insult to the conquered people. That's a fact.
Gladly reveal is a far cry from happened. Domination happened to men too and is always glossed over but people want to cry REALISM and...then gloss over reality. And I'm not ignoring that being a fact but I'm not sure why you're bringing that up as though it counters what I said? Women being raped doesn't somehow cancel out men being raped. They don't cancel out each other out (if anything it works together The men can't protect themselves much less their women). It doesn't work that way. They're both tools of domination by an invading force. (and just for a second I thought like a horrible being *vomits all over the place*)
They can read is what I'm trying to say. Trying to go "But but other medieval do it like so DA should!" is absurd because DA isn't those medieval games and I'm sick of people thinking DA should jump on every other medieval games throat. And yes it's highly impled that most people in the da setting can at least read by the abundance of signs and such in poor quarters where you know the Poor are. There's no need for signs in written words directed towards the poor if they can't read them. There's no need for Varric to make a joke about Aveline having a sign that simply says "Don't" towards bandits if they can't READ THE SIGN. Most people in the DA setting can read. That is part of the setting. They can read.
You mean the origins where everyone could read?
That Origins? Because that ignored your so valued medieval rule.
That origins with happily ever after get out of jail 3rd options? Like there werewolves, Loghain, and the mages?
That Origins?
Oh I'll take that.
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People have such rose tinted glasses when it came to Origins grimdarkness I swear to god. It's like they remembered the Dark ritual and nothing else.
You're trying to say that "oh women are shown as victims of rape in these games and what about the men huh?? they were raped too!!"
Fact is, raping men was not something soldiers would glorify and feel proud of it. The men are killed in battle, or killed afterwards, the women raped/killed and the kids became orphans. Sorry, it's horrible yes, but that's how it usually worked throughout history.
On another note, did you guys see that story of Florian (I think that was his name? the son of the Lord of the lands) and the hunter in White Orchard? That was really hard.
You meet the hunter while doing the Griffin quest, and the whole conversation with him gives you a glimpse of how terrible the world of the Witcher is.
Is that a fact that everyone in DA world can read though. I know there are signs but they're usually made for the pc, whom I think was automatically made to be able to read, cuz it's silly otherwise. So they know what's going on in those places. I mean, until anora builds that school, there there were none in that world. Only the more priviledged like the nobles and chantry people including mages seem to have access to education. Maybe the Dalish because they're very hanged up on their lores.
And those rose tainted glasses are still currently in use :-) I still play it from time to time and that game will never leave any of my pcs.
And yes the 3rd option was at least an option. Not like DA2 where there's hardly any.
Why would a sign about elves holding weapons in the alienage be made only for the player? Especially when the first thing out your dad's mouth was NOT to reveal the weapons training. The Pc was already aware the weapon training wasn't allowed by the general public. That sign clearly wasn't for his/her benefit. No it's pretty blatant they can read. How no clue. Maybe Valendrian, maybe the parents, maybe a random chantry priest. Honestly...if the chantry really expects the chant spread to all four corners of the world you'd think they'd spread education. Can't spread that long ass chant without being able to read it.
XD nice. I haven't played in a while.
Oh god don't remind me. *grumbles* Only reason *huggles Fenris close*
You're trying to say that "oh women are shown as victims of rape in these games and what about the men huh?? they were raped too!!"
Fact is, raping men was not something soldiers would glorify and feel proud of it. The men are killed in battle, or killed afterwards, the women raped/killed and the kids became orphans. Sorry, it's horrible yes, but that's how it usually worked throughout history.
On another note, did you guys see that story of Florian (I think that was his name? the son of the Lord of the lands) and the hunter in White Orchard? That was really hard.
You meet the hunter while doing the Griffin quest, and the whole conversation with him gives you a glimpse of how terrible the world of the Witcher is.
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Where are you getting homophobia from???
I never said the witcher was homophobic because I played that quest myself. So...nice putting words in my mouth bud. Well done. You feel better?
I was just laughing at your REALISM. While cheery picking what you found realistic. Face it bro it's not realistic. It's just what you wanna see. And that's okay! But don't try to hide behind realistic. Especially not when trying to say "but that wouldn't be realistic!" when face it it would. And you keep saying fact is like I don't know this like you need school me.
And you know what. I don't mind it in witcher. (and before you go I know women aren't just victims before you go on that tirade) But when people want to drag that into Dragon Age I just kind of sigh and go. Why can't you keep that in your park? What was gritty in DA was fine. Shianni was fine but people was like "Oh we should've saw her dress torn! It should've been more obvious!" *roll eyes*
I guessing you are trying to come across as patronizing giving the abundance of explanation marks and I despise being patronized I'll devolve into my snarktastic b**** self.
Dude, I said some people complained. I never said you did.
This forum system is really gonna make me post is quote by quote.
I hate you.
You Inquisitor has perfect motivation just because you weren't listening isn't the game's fault. That hole in your hand gets bigger til you close the the rift. Survival is the motivation that works for all character types unless your PC is suicidal in which case just get a nonstandard game over. Problem solved. After that it's safety in numbers because Cory is out for you. It's a basic motivation.
Hawke starts decent. Family obviously. You're listening to your mother. You might think she's addled and ridiculous but she's your mother so yeah you're going to go along with what she says It's not like there's really a reason to stuggle against her at that point. That breaks apart after act 2 though. Which is where it falls apart.
Which is fine. But not liking the motivation is different from one not being there. (Like Hawke's motivation being saving Kirkwall. There's that for DA2 it completely is against my Hawke's character and MAKES NO SENSE for my PC as portrayed but it's differently there for Hawke's (as seen in some dialogue choices)
Because sometimes they're not? I mean...if those bastards vanished from Skyrim I would not give a damn. Missing those snooty comments would give me a sigh of relief. I'm not sure why you think everyone valued what you do but I don't. I don't require snot nosed brats to immerse myself in the world.
Except you're trying to act like DAI Is completely bleached when it's not. I don't watch either of those shows so what ever analogy you're attempting to make I don't get. But if it's another fake real vs real real comparison that's fair enough.
Everyone on those times were victims. And everyone knows that those who suffer more during war are the children and women.
Men were forced to serve, and god forbid they deserted. They might as well kill themselves. They had a duty and there was no way out of it. Being gay? Forget it. Might as well kill themselves too.
Women became widows, mothers without their children and the possibility of rape and murder in the horizon.
Kids ended up without parents and no home.
Now, before misunderstanding my words and going on a crusade, everything above is what happened during war times.
Things weren't easy and trying to depict those times with political correctness is really jarring to me. I hate the road the DA series took.
Yes it wasn't that gritty, as in the Witcher level, but still it used to be darker than it is now.
Well aside from being forced to act as Elmer's Glue there really not a lot motivation to do much else. In fact the only time your hand thing really matters is during very few quests. You can pretty much leave the rifts elsewhere without any consequences that I've seen on my 2nd pt.
Tbh I did not see DAI as bleached till I played Tw3. Before that I was moderately contented even if rather unmotivated to play it more. Don't get me wrong though because as soon as DA releases another story based dlc, I'm first in queue.
To be fair that's Take Your Time and that's an issue with like...90% of Open World Games. And if you don't have that issue. You get timed mission issues and god I hate times missions. I rather have take your time. Least then it's my fault.
DAI isn't as dark as TW3 but not many games are. TW3 does have a wonderfully dark world. That seems very interesting. And I wish I could've gotten immersed in it the way I hear others did. I found it pretty but...lonely and...eventually...quiet? I would describe it. My issue with DAI is the Inquisitor never really suffers a blow after Haven. If he/she did it might've made a significant difference to the so called "disney" feel of the game. Cory was just too stupid a villain really.
Why would a sign about elves holding weapons in the alienage be made only for the player? Especially when the first thing out your dad's mouth was NOT to reveal the weapons training. The Pc was already aware the weapon training wasn't allowed by the general public. That sign clearly wasn't for his/her benefit. No it's pretty blatant they can read. How no clue. Maybe Valendrian, maybe the parents, maybe a random chantry priest. Honestly...if the chantry really expects the chant spread to all four corners of the world you'd think they'd spread education. Can't spread that long ass chant without being able to read it.
XD nice. I haven't played in a while.
Oh god don't remind me. *grumbles* Only reason *huggles Fenris close*
Everyone on those times were victims. And everyone knows that those who suffer more during war are the children and women.
Men were forced to serve, and god forbid they deserted. They might as well kill themselves. They had a duty and there was no way out of it. Being gay? Forget it. Might as well kill themselves too.
Women became widows, mothers without their children and the possibility of rape and murder in the horizon.
Kids ended up without parents and no home.
Now, before misunderstanding my words and going on a crusade, everything above is what happened during war times.
Things weren't easy and trying to depict those times with political correctness is really jarring to me. I hate the road the DA series took.
Yes it wasn't that gritty, as in the Witcher level, but still it used to be darker than it is now.
What is with your constant need to spew up what happened in wartime like I'm a child who need to hear "rape and murder happened during war! rape and murder happened during war! Do you get it yet!" nevermind that it's in the game. But because we need it slammed in our faces the implications aren't oh noes. Nope. Female characters in war that have been raped? Check But I guess because we don't hear about it bawdly in a tavern it doesn't count. Hm...curious.
Also why are you ignoring context? The Inquisitor absorbs the other army into his. You really think they're going to be bawdly announcing how they raped someone in front of their Herald? When rape of mages (at least circle mages) by templars is severely frowned upon by the Chantry considering the mages are the templars charges? And the Inquisition no matter how much they decry otherwise does have several Chantry roots. (as for vice versa I'm not too sure Cassandra would be pleased about that) Um...that would be stupid and pretty much asking to be disciplined. (not to mention a lot of the templars are still religious and seeing your Herald looking down on you wouldn't do much for the soul) It's like you're ignoring all context of DA's setting.
Now if you mean more Shianni moments when we arrived to late to save the female I guess? Only if I get to strangle the rapists with their own intestines though.
Since when was being gay an issue in DA? 
Celene's issue with Briala was she refused to pop out a royal heir and she'd had that issue with Briala regardless. (That issue was also worsened by Briala being an elf). The only person who made being gay an issue was the PC potentially being a douchecanoe with Zevran. That's it. And Oghren being disgusting. But considering it's Oghren...
Also Crusade? Oh do continue. Please. *temples fingers*
Maybe because they've seen what happened those who was arrested for holding a weapon? They're a pretty tight knit community. And weapons training does not equate to literacy though.
And the chant of light is like listening to a foreign song. Like me singing to these 2 Italian opera song and while I can memorize them , I haven't got a clue what the fork and spoon they mean. Certainly does not mean I can read Italian :-)
Ok ok I give you Fenrispenris in DA2. As long as it''s on the rivalry path. I mean who wouldn't want a white hot kiss after being used as a wall staple !
A sign reading "Don't carry weapons" doesn't require the ability to READ it?
Yeah that thing is long though I'm pretty sure they'd want them to learn it properly I mean but I'll give you that.
Oh god yes. Rivalry fenris is sizzling. 
That mage rivalrymance. Worth DA2 alone.
As iirc it said Elve's are not allowed to carry weapons. In that context.
Oooh. See CLOSE ENOUGH
But yeah they probably would've needed to read the sign what the hell it said.
Unless it was one of those redcircles with a slash through the weapons and do they even have those signs in thedas? Does it look like that? You can zoom in on it right?
It's not a story mod. Not necessarily. Just mods to make you need to eat, sleep, drink so on. Immersion. XD
But hey you're missing out on not getting PC skyrim.
ENB Skyrim is beautiful.
Also wtf it won't let me post my reply to Cort. OFFS.
Im not even sure how console players got so many hours in Skyrim. 80% of my playtime was because of the new mods. And those different ENB setups were beautiful, one was like I was playing a movie.
http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/54346/?
I can't remember. I'm playing Gwent atm, or loosing for 13 games in a row now to the same snooty faced john lenon looking merchant. I'd fire up dao otherwise.
saw this on Reddit. Looks nice. Might've been posted here I dunno. I actually want one even if I sucked hard at Gwent.
http://imgur.com/a/jX4nR
saw this on Reddit. Looks nice. Might've been posted here I dunno. I actually want one even if I sucked hard at Gwent.
I've no one to play it with :-( my bf thinks it's silly and my she boss while she also plays tw3, I'm scared to ask.
If they ever make retail cards, I'd buy it for the bling bling.
Now come on. Give us Wicked Grace for DA4!
I suck at card games though XD
But yeah I'd buy it just to have pretty cards XD
ALSO OMG FALLOUT NEWS.
I need that keep pulling me back in gif.
Howard.
You evil bastard.
You did the one thing.
To get me to buy this thing on release.
You bastard. And curse me for being so shallow. *cries*
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