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[KBomb]

Remember folks, spoiler tags are this thread's best friend! 

[ashwind]

Actually there is a thread over at CDPRs forums http://forums.cdproj...s-DA-I-SPOILERS so far the consensus is W3 is the better game. Guess that Bioware need their shill, elhanan, to go over there and put everyone right as well as tell them that the game is putrid due to ESRB ratings (despite those being identical for both games). LOL

One of the post there is actually very interesting. DA feels very American while TW feels European. I think that is why DAI doesn't have that ... medieval fantasy feeling.

[hoechlbear]

I knew my statement was off-topic and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't criticised for appearing to jump into the thread without bothering to read it first. You're probably right - it was unnecessary and maybe slightly rude for me to make that remark.

 

You're probably talking about my comment. The only reason why I said it was because a person came into the thread and said the same thing others have said in the past, "I don't want DA to be TW" and when people make those type of comments it's obvious they have no idea what is actually being discussed on this thread. Obviously no ones wants Geralt to suddenly be the protagonist of a DA game.

 

 

Help..
Kill radovid or not? Really hard to play without much back stories


Eeenie meenie minee moe..

 

Spoiler

I will always kill him because he's completely crazy and needs to die.

[nici2412]

Actually there is a thread over at CDPRs forums http://forums.cdproj...s-DA-I-SPOILERS so far the consensus is W3 is the better game. Guess that Bioware need their shill, elhanan, to go over there and put everyone right as well as tell them that the game is putrid due to ESRB ratings (despite those being identical for both games). LOL

To be fair, it's not only about the specific forums. The opinion on neutral sites is also pretty onesided

[Ryzaki]

You're probably talking about my comment. The only reason why I said it was because a person came into the thread and said the same thing others have said in the past, "I don't want DA to be TW" and when people make those type of comments it's obvious they have no idea what is actually being discussed on this thread. Obviously no ones wants Geralt to suddenly be the protagonist of a DA game.

You mean me?

 

I was responding to the gem that wanted peasants not to be able to read and for religious folks to be more ignorant than educated ones  nevermind that it pretty much ignored DAO for it to happen. The religious folks tend to be the most highly educated (indeed they're the ones who tend to do the educating) and powerful, the poor for the part can read how isn't explained but I'd assume a mixture of the chantry and families passing it down considering even the city elves are in contact with chantry priests.  So yeah that was my issue.

 

But obviously no one wants Geralt to be the protagonist to be the protagonist of a DA game. Why even bring up that lunacy?

[hoechlbear]

Actually there is a thread over at CDPRs forums http://forums.cdproj...s-DA-I-SPOILERS so far the consensus is W3 is the better game. Guess that Bioware need their shill, elhanan, to go over there and put everyone right as well as tell them that the game is putrid due to ESRB ratings (despite those being identical for both games). LOL

 

Wow, I'm surprised how constructive most of their comments are. It's actually pretty similar to what we have been saying here on the forums. 

[KBomb]

You mean me?

 

I was responding to the gem that wanted peasants not to be able to read and for religious folks to be more ignorant than educated ones  nevermind that it pretty much ignored DAO for it to happen. The religious folks tend to be the most highly educated (indeed they're the ones who tend to do the educating) and powerful, the poor for the part can read how isn't explained but I'd assume a mixture of the chantry and families passing it down considering even the city elves are in contact with chantry priests.  So yeah that was my issue.

 

But obviously no one wants Geralt to be the protagonist to be the protagonist of a DA game. Why even bring up that lunacy?

I don't think iamthedreadwolf meant you at all. I am pretty sure he/she is talking about the ones who pop in and say, "No! Don't make DAI a clone of TW3!" , "No! I want to be able to customize my character and play as a female or >insert race<!", when obviously no one here ever asked for any of that to change in DA.

[hoechlbear]

You mean me?

 

I was responding to the gem that wanted peasants not to be able to read and for religious folks to be more ignorant than educated ones  nevermind that it pretty much ignored DAO for it to happen. The religious folks tend to be the most highly educated (indeed they're the ones who tend to do the educating) and powerful, the poor for the part can read how isn't explained but I'd assume a mixture of the chantry and families passing it down considering even the city elves are in contact with chantry priests.  So yeah that was my issue.

 

But obviously no one wants Geralt to be the protagonist to be the protagonist of a DA game. Why even bring up that lunacy?

 

Erm, no... It was a random person who probably never commented on this thread before and only said DA can be DA and TW can be TW.

 

EDIT: Ah! KBomb explained it better than me.

 

 

I don't think iamthedreadwolf meant you at all. I am pretty sure he/she is talking about the ones who pop in and say, "No! Don't make DAI a clone of TW3!" , "No! I want to be able to customize my character and play as a female or >insert race<!", when obviously no one here ever asked for any of that to change in DA.

[Ryzaki]

Erm, no... It was a random person who probably never commented on this thread before and only said DA can be DA and TW can be TW.

 

Oh. XD sorry then.

 

Also what a weird thing to say.

 

I don't think iamthedreadwolf meant you at all. I am pretty sure he/she is talking about the ones who pop in and say, "No! Don't make DAI a clone of TW3!" , "No! I want to be able to customize my character and play as a female or >insert race<!", when obviously no one here ever asked for any of that to change in DA.

 

Yeah I don't think anyone would worry about that. BioWare would realize people would tear them apart if they ever did that.

 

 

[KBomb]

Oh. XD sorry then.

 

Also what a weird thing to say.

 

 

Yeah I don't think anyone would worry about that. BioWare would realize people would tear them apart if they ever did that.

 

Yeah, I wouldn't want Bioware to change those things. I think those things are what sets it apart. 

[Ryzaki]

Yeah, I wouldn't want Bioware to change those things. I think those things are what sets it apart. 

 

Actually I'm probably going to say something bad but honestly I never found BW's main plots that good. I wish they'd focus on what they're actually good at. Character relationships and having my PC have multiple variations of them with multiple ways of going about em. A game based off that would be lovely. Just focusing on the characters with the main plot being just a backdrop would be marvelous. Just focusing on how the plot effected those close to the protag (and hopefully the protag with some decent choices) in enough choices that I could really sink my teeth into with some good combat? Pretty much Mass Effect 2 but without the loyalty missions being utterly disconnected from the mainplot. (and without the derptasticness of the plot would be nice but I'm not expecting miracles).

 

I would be so happy with that.

[ashwind]

To be fair, it's not only about the specific forums. The opinion on neutral sites is also pretty onesided

The reason is very simple. Overall quality. To illustrate, this is how DAI feels like after experiencing TW3:

DAI


TW3

[Xetykins]

To be fair, it's not only about the specific forums. The opinion on neutral sites is also pretty onesided

Very damning considering both games.probably have the same amount of trolls.

[Akrabra]

Why should they if they have the better  game?

I have yet come to see something that DAI does better than this game.

and let's put aside,the party,the possibility to create your own protagonist,and others things which WH3 doesn't do.

Ok i'll give you one. Companions and motivations. While the writing in TW3 might be better than DA:I at a few things the motivation of the enemy is quite silly and poorly executed. Most of which you consider allies in the story has little to no fleshing out, because CDProjekt assumed we would all read the books, because hey why not. Also the story content for friends like Dandelion and Zoltan is quite limited and are quests that boils down to favors, granted they are funny, but at the same time the depth is not the same as Cassandra's personal quest, or Cole.

 

I would say Bioware is better at writing compelling and interesting characters for the protagonist to bond with, or dislike for that matter. My main problem with DA:I characters was that the Inquisitor was not interesting. 

 

I also read alot of people in here saying that Bioware is to Disney. I wonder what people mean by that. When i was growing up alot of Disney movies were fairly dark and actually we learned alot from them. How to deal with loss and grief. How to take part in joy and celebrate the good things that happens to us.

This is Disney to me. Saying that Bioware is like it it is not an insult. I couldn't find the video of this scene, but the picture is just as powerful.

[Ryzaki]

 

I also read alot of people in here saying that Bioware is to Disney. I wonder what people mean by that. When i was growing up alot of Disney movies were fairly dark and actually we learned alot from them. How to deal with loss and grief. How to take part in joy and celebrate the good things that happens to us.

*snip*

This is Disney to me. Saying that Bioware is like it it is not an insult. I couldn't find the video of this scene, but the picture is just as powerful.

 

Man Mulan. Now I'm gonna rewatch it.

 

XD Least I'm not the only one. 

[ashwind]

Man Mulan. Now I'm gonna rewatch it.
 
XD Least I'm not the only one. 

LOL mulan. The fairytale of fairytale. I mean she is either built like a dwarf or the army is blind

[Ryzaki]

LOL mulan. The fairytale of fairytale. I mean she is either built like a dwarf or the army is blind

 

They might've thought she was a skinny dude. She could've gotten away with it if she was slender enough.

[ashwind]

They might've thought she was a skinny dude. She could've gotten away with it if she was slender enough.

The general who marries her would still be blind at the very least because if she can remain undetected for all this time... She must not look female at all XD

[Das Tentakel]

Very damning considering both games.probably have the same amount of trolls.

I don't think the Metacritic user average for DA:I on PC is very useful here. The total amount of user ratings for PC is about twice that for the PS4, and I sincerely doubt DA:I sold twice as much on PC.
Some people artificially generated lots of very positive and negative user reviews here, in some sort of (spontaneous?) positive and negative astroturfing.

[chance52]

Help..
Kill radovid or not? Really hard to play without much back stories


Eeenie meenie minee moe..

 

 

Well Radovid was in the books and first 2 games, this 3rd version of him has gone mad. It isn't a good idea to leave a mad king alone to do his thing.

 

If you are at a loss, just side with Roche, in 2 games no matter what you do he has your back. It makes sense given the context of the 2nd game that you would help Roche up to a point, and if you care at all for Triss or Yennifer, Radovid needs to be dealt with. 

[hoechlbear]

I also read alot of people in here saying that Bioware is to Disney. I wonder what people mean by that. When i was growing up alot of Disney movies were fairly dark and actually we learned alot from them. How to deal with loss and grief. How to take part in joy and celebrate the good things that happens to us.

 Ok, but when you think of Disney what's the first thing that comes to your mind? Certainly not horrible and dark things. I think people mean as in, it's too colorful and fairytale like. Yeah, sure it has some bad things that happen in between but in the end, they are fantasy stories that always get happy endings no matter what. Personally I don't compare DAI to Disney but I understand when people do.

 

But on the other hand, I also get where you're coming from. Let's take Cinderella for example. She has a horrible life and struggles to get her happy ending, she hits rock bottom when the evil sisters destroy her dress but comes back up again with the help of her fairy godmother, while in DAI I don't see any real obstacles that the characters have to overcome and the Inquisitor barely struggles in the fight against Cory. lol

[Das Tentakel]

I also read alot of people in here saying that Bioware is to Disney. I wonder what people mean by that. When i was growing up alot of Disney movies were fairly dark and actually we learned alot from them. How to deal with loss and grief. How to take part in joy and celebrate the good things that happens to us.

This is Disney to me. Saying that Bioware is like it it is not an insult. I couldn't find the video of this scene, but the picture is just as powerful.

Disneyfication does not refer to 'being like a Disney cartoon', but more to a certain kind of simplification (and commercialisation).
See: https://en.wikipedia.../Disneyfication

 

By the way, compared to the source material (and their overall context), Disney cartoons are generally simplified and cutified, even if they may retain some more serious elements.

 

 

And no, they didn't just simplify / modify the clothes...

 

[MoonDrummer]

Help..
Kill radovid or not? Really hard to play without much back stories


Eeenie meenie minee moe..

Don't do it. He is the one true king.

[Ryzaki]

The general who marries her would still be blind at the very least because if she can remain undetected for all this time... She must not look female at all XD

 

She  might look androgynous or pretty boy ish her not being auto detected doesn't mean she's unattractive. 

 

How the hell did I end up arguing Mulan's looks anyway. lol

[Elhanan]

To be fair, it's not only about the specific forums. The opinion on neutral sites is also pretty onesided

It may be neutered, but is hardly neutral. The data is invalid as anyone can post a review and score, even those like myself that have not played the game. The totals are inaccurate as the algorithms used to compile results are flawed. And scores and reviews of both extremes seem to appear frequently near launch; possibly beforehand.

TW3 and DAI are varied types of games; the former being an Action RPG title without tactical options. Hope TW3 continues to garnish GOTY accolades this year, much like DAI gathered them for 2014.