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#7501
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Is that what he's been doing? Odd.


This thread is full of people who say TW3isn't for them, or say that they like DAI better, yet they are polite and respect opinions that differ from their own. If you go and find those posts, you'd see they were welcomed and included in a multitude of discussions and even some camaraderie. Heck, I have seen some who came into the thread not having touched TW3, but because of discussions with some of us, decided to give a try and ended up loving it, or at least trying it.

 

I just don't get the refusal to admit to any of the good points of the game. It baffles me when people do it with DAI and DA2 as well. There are very few games that are entirely crap. I'm not saying you should wax poetic over what the game did right but...


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#7502
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Can we please ignore him? I really like this thread and I don't want it to get closed because of an obvious troll. Everytime someone gets into a discussion with him he starts to bait people to fight with him. It's almost like he's trying to get the thread closed.

Ignore him please. He won't play the game and he's a troll for trying to derail the thread everytime.


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#7503
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Just a quick question...

 

Spoiler



#7504
Das Tentakel

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Just a quick question...

 

Spoiler

 

Don't worry ;)



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Just a quick question...

Spoiler


Spoiler


#7506
Lawrence0294

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Don't worry ;)

I'm in the exact same spot...and that reassures me ^^



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Thanks!

 

Spoiler



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Thanks!

 

Spoiler

 

To be on the safe side, I recommend romancing them both  :devil:


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To be on the safe side, I recommend romancing them both  :devil:

 

Ashwind is

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#7510
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To be on the safe side, I recommend romancing them both  :devil:

haha Oh no. I know the spoiler for that one! :P



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Regarding Disneyfication, some artist translated the Game of Thrones houses into 'Disney animal form':

 

http://donthatethege...ses-disneyfied/

 

I like the House Lannister one best:

 

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Now all we have to do is wait for somebody do the same with the DA and TW characters... :P


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Regarding Disneyfication, some artist translated the Game of Thrones houses into 'Disney animal form':

 

http://donthatethege...ses-disneyfied/

 

I like the House Lannister one best:

 

10553505_10204539762002047_7266080659271

 

Now all we have to do is wait for somebody do the same with the DA and TW characters... :P

If GOT was actually like this maybe i would watch it. Highly overrated TV and book series. 



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Wow.. last night what a rolercoaster ride for me. I let Triss go and even when I did not romance her, the moment kind of hit me. Then did the play for Dudu, and wow Geralt was a bad actor and I chosed the most stupid lines and laughed. Then Dudu did a Ciri... and that was the first time I saw Geralt looking so devastated. He did not even have to say anything but you can see.

I can't remember if DAI had scenes like that, but I want that for the next one.

 

That scene is heartbreaking, the look on his face... I felt so bad for choosing that option, I was like Zoltan, "Are you mad at me? *puppy eyes*" lol But wait until he finds Ciri, now that's a powerful moment. I definitely never felt any of the sort when playing DAI. DAI and powerful moments don't go hand in hand.


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#7514
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Gopher has played some of the game earlier, but has not completed it, and just finished LP's of the previous two games. The mod posted is a Mod Talk video, informing those following the TW3 LP series of possible changes that may appear in the game. Gopher has done the same for LP of Skyrim.

In the vid it mentions his problems with Witcher Sense; one I confirmed to him simply by watching the vids, as it was also worsening my vertigo. As it was on point to the discussion of harvesting, it was posted. No searching required; nor TW3 head canon needed to explain why similar mechanics for harvesting are improved in that game.

And I was watching this LP to again confirm that the content and combat was not for me, and will not be watching any further.

As for TW3, hope it does well even if CP is leaving them soon. But when posters here continue to hold TW3 content up as some standard to improve the DA series, and the examples cannot hold water....

P.S. Gopher approaches many games as a first time player. If one requires prior knowledge for gameplay, it might not be a great design. By the comments in the vids, it seems that Gopher is not alone; many seem to have made the same choices believing the same things about the game.

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That scene is heartbreaking, the look on his face... I felt so bad for choosing that option, I was like Zoltan, "Are you mad at me? *puppy eyes*" lol But wait until he finds Ciri, now that's a powerful moment. I definitely never felt any of the sort when playing DAI. DAI and powerful moments don't go hand in hand.


Well I don't know really. IF I was even lukewarm about Hawke, then Here Lies the Abyss would have been that moment, I think. And no way in hell I'm leaving Alistair down there :P

And that story of the last inquisitor in JoH tugged me a bit for some reason, it's weird.

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Oh my.

The last DLC just might, in fact, be New Game Plus.

 

https://twitter.com/...641014452162560

 

HAPPINESS. :D :lol: ^_^



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And I was watching this LP to again confirm that the content and combat was not for me, and will not be watching any further.

 

 

Great. Now if you could stop commenting any further as well, you'd make this thread a lot more pleasant for everyone else.


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Well I don't know really. IF I was even lukewarm about Hawke, then Here Lies the Abyss would have been that moment, I think. And no way in hell I'm leaving Alistair down there :P

And that story of the last inquisitor in JoH tugged me a bit for some reason, it's weird.

 

In my only playthrough it was Hawke or Stroud and while I like Stroud, the decision was an easy one for me. Didn't play JoH but I doubt a story about a stranger (even if it's a good story, which I can't judge since I haven't played it) would have an impact on me the way Geralt's story and his relationship with Ciri did. I think once you finish TW3 you'll see what I mean.

 

 

Oh my.

The last DLC just might, in fact, be New Game Plus.

 

https://twitter.com/...641014452162560

 

HAPPINESS.  :D  :lol:  ^_^

 

I'm confused what that means. So you complete a playthrough and when you start a new one you can choose to carry over all your abilities and start the new playthrough at the level you finished your last? Like let's say at level 35? How does that even work? Will enemies and quests scale with you? What about the treasures you find in the world? They will no longer be of use to you because you can immediately start the game with mastercrafted witcher gear, right? And you will continue to level up until you finish that playthrough? Meaning you can level up to level 60+?



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Great. Now if you could stop commenting any further as well, you'd make this thread a lot more pleasant for everyone else.


Thanks for the heart warming invitation, but shall remain... for my fans, at least.

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I'm confused what that means. So you complete a playthrough and when you start a new one you can choose to carry over all your abilities and start the new playthrough at the level you finished your last? Like let's say at level 35? How does that even work? Will enemies and quests scale with you? What about the treasures you find in the world? They will no longer be of use to you because you can immediately start the game with mastercrafted witcher gear, right? And you will continue to level up until you finish that playthrough? Meaning you can level up to level 60+?

 

 

It's a concept that was there before, but really made popular by the Dark Souls games.

 

You carry over any abilities and non-quest items, and you basically start much much stronger. In much much cooler gear.

All monsters level with you, so I expect ghouls in White Orchard would be level 35 or something.

I like the NG+ concept if it goes that way in TW3 because when you play an ordinary playthrough, you (or at least I) missed a bunch of quests or came back overleveled. It's very different if you do level 8 mobs at level 12 (overleveled), or a level 35 mob at 39 (still very much a challenge, especially at Death March).


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#7521
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It's a concept that was there before, but really made popular by the Dark Souls games.

 

You carry over any abilities and non-quest items, and you basically start much much stronger. In much much cooler gear.

All monsters level with you, so I expect ghouls in White Orchard would be level 35 or something.

I like the NG+ concept if it goes that way in TW3 because when you play an ordinary playthrough, you (or at least I) missed a bunch of quests or came back overleveled. It's very different if you do level 8 mobs at level 12 (overleveled), or a level 35 mob at 39 (still very much a challenge, especially at Death March).

 

I see. I like the sound of that. When I started my second playthrough I forgot how squishy you are on the first levels and those damn ghouls killed me a few times. I did have the difficulty on death march because I wanted to tried it out but nah, it's definitely not for me. lol But I may try it again for my third playthrough if they add NG+. Also, while I like the treasure hunts, it would be nice to not have to do them for the 3th time in order to get all the diagrams for the witcher gear again. It's a nice way to focus more on the story and not so much farming and leveling up.

 

 

And speaking of which, to those who made a completionist playthrough: all those question marks on Skellige, are they worth it? Because on my first playthrough I started to notice that they are basically smuggler's caches infested with annoying sirens and I did a couple but gave up. It was really hard to finish the game with those question marks on the map but I couldn't bare to spend hours going around on a boat, killing hundreds of sirens when I don't even need more loot (by the time I reach Skellige, I always have 20,000+ crowns). I'm just afraid that one of those question marks may contain something that is actually interesting and I'm missing out. 



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I like the way Witcher sense is implemented.  Any easier on the eyes and it would be spammed, the price to pay for the extra ability is to put up with the fishbowl view.  I like the fact that the longer you stay in that mode the further out your sense reaches and highlights "lootable" items, I think that is a nice touch.

 

Am 40 hours into W3 (this is about the point I had decided to leave DAI, the 40 hour mark) and am the exact opposite of where I was DAI.  At this point in DAI, I struggled to play for more than 20-30 minutes at a time, most of it due to my hand issue and the need to constantly hold down right mouse button, its not a mechanic I am fond of, the rest due to, frankly, sheer boredom.  Can't wait to get the next hour or two of W3 tonight though when I get home.  Great game, not without faults, but by far the best game for me since Skyrim.

 

Re Elhanan; as most of you have already noticed, there is no shaking the great Elhanan off his BW soapbox, let him be.  


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#7523
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No soapbox; simply utilizing the same rights as any other poster.

OT - Hope that DA4 and other Bioware titles utilize something like The Keep to maintain and create prior choices. Much prefer it over losing info from importing saved games.

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And speaking of which: all those question marks on Skellige, are they worth it? Because on my first playthrough I started to notice that they are basically smuggler's caches infested with annoying sirens and I did a couple but gave up. It was really hard to finish the game with those question marks on the map but I couldn't bare to spend hours going around on a boat, killing hundreds of sirens when I don't even need more loot (by the time I reach Skellige, I always have 20,000+ crowns). I'm just afraid that one of those question marks may contain something that is actually interesting and I'm missing out.


Some of them are, but a lot of ? marks, even on the Mainland, indicate minor stuff that basically fills up the countryside between the really interesting stuff (in the villages, ruins, major dungeons, certain camps etc.). They are meant to 'break up' your travels across the landscape (some of the quasi-dynamic encounters serve the same role, but have a bit more substance to them).

The only way to be sure is to take a looksie...
 

This is, by the way, something both future CDPR and BioWare games could profit from: A decent system to generate procedural content / create simple scripted content to help ‘fill the gaps’ in their respective gameworlds. A lot of the little camps and chests in TW3 form the equivalent of DA:I’s ‘filler content’. It’s not that annoying because they are a relatively minor (and entirely skippable) part, but it’s there. I’d rather have some dynamic encounter system with bandits, soldiers, monsters etc. to break ‘the flow’, rather than these little camps and chests that lack any story whatsoever.

 

So you’d get something like this:

 

‘Hey, this spot near the road shows evidence there used to be a small encampment here’

 

‘What the heck? Bandits ambushing me? There were none when I came here earlier’

 

‘Okay, killed the bandits, now let’see…oh they camped here, figures. Hurray, chest with goodies!’

 

‘Cool, the tents that used to be here are now ragged’

 

‘Tents are gone, cool’

 

‘Oh…there’s troll roasting an Elf in the old bandit camp spot…hmmm…level 36. Better let him eat in peace then…’\

 

‘Melitele, now he starts singing…I’m outta here…’

 

I would totally dig this for the on-the-road fluff content, rather than chests or shards, but I get it that developing something like this isn’t as easy as it sounds.



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I see. I like the sound of that. When I started my second playthrough I forgot how squishy you are on the first levels and those damn ghouls killed me a few times. I did have the difficulty on death march because I wanted to tried it out but nah, it's definitely not for me. lol But I may try it again for my third playthrough if they add NG+. Also, while I like the treasure hunts, it would be nice to not have to do them for the 3th time in order to get all the diagrams for the witcher gear again. It's a nice way to focus more on the story and not so much farming and leveling up.

 

 

And speaking of which, to those who made a completionist playthrough: all those question marks on Skellige, are they worth it? Because on my first playthrough I started to notice that they are basically smuggler's caches infested with annoying sirens and I did a couple but gave up. It was really hard to finish the game with those question marks on the map but I couldn't bare to spend hours going around on a boat, killing hundreds of sirens when I don't even need more loot (by the time I reach Skellige, I always have 20,000+ crowns). I'm just afraid that one of those question marks may contain something that is actually interesting and I'm missing out. 

For skellige go for the question marks on land, ignore every single sea based one.