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Prefer flirting with Scout Harding....

Out of pure curiosity Elhanan, which character did you romance, if any, in your playthroughs ?



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Out of pure curiosity Elhanan, which character did you romance, if any, in your playthroughs ?


First campaign was my male Dwarven Rogue; was content to start a budding romance with Lace Harding. For my male Human Mage, I finally overcame all of the negative approval from Cassandra (seemingly very realistic, as one never knew what the lady was thinking), and am now the close ally and friend of the new Divine. The consequences are that she is no longer available for post game content, so am out of Warriors. Also used different VO's for both of the Inq's.

Current playthrough is a female Elven Mage with the English VO; no romantic interests here, but shall explore the Dalish/ Elven dialogue and history as much as possible.

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Prefer flirting with Scout Harding....

 

This made me laugh. Thanks for that!

 

 

My two cents about TW3 relationships- I'm always choosing m/m romances in games. I didn't want to romance anyone in TW3 because of that, but I changed my mind. Yennefer made me straight. Seriously, I don't even remember who's Dorian :P


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The dynamic between Geralt and Yen is great. It's what long term relationships are like.

They tease each other, know which buttons to push and in the end love is always there.

That kind of depends on the people in that relationship. I have been in a few and i never had that dynamic which Yen and Geralt has and thank god for that. It is annoying when its on screen. I like her fine, but me as a person would never be with a woman like that and to that extent my Geralt wouldn't either. Triss does not only fight for the people she love, but for a cause aswell. Her traits are easier for me to admire as she is more caring and kind. We all like different things, and lets face it we are all a little biased in here about which sorceress we like more. 


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You guys can have your sCorcheresses, I'll take Geralt.
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First campaign was my male Dwarven Rogue; was content to start a budding romance with Lace Harding. For my male Human Mage, I finally overcame all of the negative approval from Cassandra (seemingly very realistic, as one never knew what the lady was thinking), and am now the close ally and friend of the new Divine. The consequences are that she is no longer available for post game content, so am out of Warriors. Also used different VO's for both of the Inq's.

Current playthrough is a female Elven Mage with the English VO; no romantic interests here, but shall explore the Dalish/ Elven dialogue and history as much as possible.

Interesting, and were you satisfied with the romantic content that you experienced ?



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Elhanan

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Interesting, and were you satisfied with the romantic content that you experienced ?


Generally; optional and not excessive. It is my hope such is the case with TW3, too. But romances are not a priority for my games; much prefer the bonds of friendship and comrades that are told, and ones that intrigue; Cole is a wonderful example of it all.

But for language, I must elect to bench Iron Bull and Blackwall; only Cassandra remains as a Warrior choice for myself. And other than some lines heard in optional quests, this is apparently fairly well contained. Such is is not the case in TW3, so I choose to avoid the game as a whole.

As long as you are curious....

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Um, guys if this thread gets closed. I'll see you all on TW3 thread in OT forum.


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If it gets closed, I probably won't have anyone to talk to about it, because the off-topic forum scares me.


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We can make a clique there.



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Interesting, and were you satisfied with the romantic content that you experienced ?

Please stop feeding the troll he is only interested in getting this thread closed! His reply to you proves that given Harding is not a romance option! He headcanons everything in DAI then uses that against W3. Along with imagined ESRB ratings etc... just ignore the sad old troll.
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Please stop feeding the troll he is only interested in getting this thread closed! His reply to you proves that given Harding is not a romance option! He headcanons everything in DAI then uses that against W3. Along with imagined ESRB ratings etc... just ignore the sad old troll.


The big old trolly mountain...

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But Scout Harding is a romance option; however it is not one that results in sex. It is one that is based more on respect and the learned customs of two varied backgrounds, and results in what seems to be arranging a first date.

But pls ignore me as the thread instructors and Moderator pro temps have asked; cannot have a contrary opinion about the realm, can we?

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I felt the romances in Witcher 3 were far more complex than DAI. Dragon age games only feature the honeymoon phase of a relationship for the most part while Witcher 3 deals with long relationships. I love Triss and while I know Yennefer has more content, I hate to see her rejected.

DA2 due to its structure had relationships that spanned the years. So, in a way, they had more issues to deal with. I guess DAI had those scenes where you have to choose one over the other - but how heartbroken can the rejected person be when they only meet your character a week ago. It still wasn't the same as watching Yen or Triss get let down.
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I felt the romances in Witcher 3 were far more complex than DAI. Dragon age games only feature the honeymoon phase of a relationship for the most part while Witcher 3 deals with long relationships. I love Triss and while I know Yennefer has more content, I hate to see her rejected.

DA2 due to its structure had relationships that spanned the years. So, in a way, they had more issues to deal with. I guess DAI had those scenes where you have to choose one over the other - but how heartbroken can the rejected person be when they only meet your character a week ago. It still wasn't the same as watching Yen or Triss get let down.


One of the deeper romances for me in the series was Aveline in DA2; also not considered to be a Romantic option. That was spot on writing, and was more believable than what I wanted it to be.

But as mentioned, most so-called Romances are simply dalliances; usually nothing of substance. I congratulate the writers for allowing any of these virtual relations to actually make us feel emotion because of them.

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I felt the romances in Witcher 3 were far more complex than DAI. Dragon age games only feature the honeymoon phase of a relationship for the most part while Witcher 3 deals with long relationships.

One major gripe I had with DAI was you can't even talk to your companions much less your LI after finishing the game. For me it makes doing JoH and any future DLCs pretty lonely aside from your companions nattering to themselves behind you. Nevermind the shallowness of some of the romance options.

And you were right. Once it hits the sack ( end of honeymoon phase) that's pretty much that.

But to be fair, I can't really get that connected with the TW3 romances anyway for a few reasons. I haven't read the books, not played the last instalments so I don't really know them as much as I should.

In Dragon Age at least, you create your own character and choose your own LI (male always for me) that you can slowly get attached to, which is what I really like. Although, I admit, I haven't felt that way since DAO, but there's still that semblance of connection to be felt, however small.

I haven't seen a lot of Yennifer yet as I haven't started Skellige yet, so I MIGHT change my mind. But right now I'm just going to go with what people said about his big love in the books and go for Yenn.

I really don't care anyway, cuz strangely I did not miss CC or romance while playing this game. For someone who valued those highly in my games, that's saying a lot. My Geralt is just too cool for romance.
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Cassandra had quite a bit to say to my Inquisitor, as our relationship was to take a turn; first with her consideration as Divine, then when she received the office. While this does not insure all the romances had such conversations, this is one that did.

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We can make a clique there.


Ain't nobody ploughin with ma clique.

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Ok, but Geralt doesn't hate her. He would chose her

Iit's Geralt's story you're playing, not your own

But whatever floats you boat, I guess

 

Its a role playing game, you play the history of your Geralt, thats the point. In my first playtrougth my geralt end alone (the ladies man path never pays XD) in my second playtrougth my geralt stays whit yeneffer, in my third it will be triss all the way.



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For some reason I suddenly remembered Alistair's quote on Morrigan "Can't you just crawl somewhere and ___?" I don't know why.

OT: I just found Triss' Rose of Remembrance. I don't know the story behind it but for some reason I had this feeling that it's got sentimental value. For those who's played the previous is probably grateful for finding little things like that.

 
Its part from the quest that bounds Geralt and Triss on witcher 2:
 

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It's really hard to get into the cliques over in OT.. :/

 

It's like highschool again!

 

We can make a clique there.

 

 

If it gets closed, I probably won't have anyone to talk to about it, because the off-topic forum scares me.



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Bit more info on NG+,  don't know if it's been posted:

 

 

Enemies will be stronger, obviously.

What carries over?
Player experience (if you're below level 30 when finishing the vanilla game, you will be bumped to level 30 for the start of NG+), items (excluding: quest items, books & letters, Gwent cards, usable items, trophies), money and alchemy recipes.

When starting New Game Plus you can select any difficulty level.

You can obtain the Death Match achievement when playing the NG+ mode.

What's the starting level of the character when beginning NG+?
The same that you had when finishing the game, if above 30, otherwise you start at level 30. You also get a free Clearing Potion at the start so you can reset your skills and try a different build.

 

I absolutely love NG+ modes in the Souls games, definitely hyped for this in Witcher 3.

 

I like that they're taking away Gwent cards too. Gwent is about the journey in TW3. I'd rather gather them all again (and I loo forward to it), than stomp lowbie opponents with my end-game uber deck.



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I felt the romances in Witcher 3 were far more complex than DAI. Dragon age games only feature the honeymoon phase of a relationship for the most part while Witcher 3 deals with long relationships. I love Triss and while I know Yennefer has more content, I hate to see her rejected.

DA2 due to its structure had relationships that spanned the years. So, in a way, they had more issues to deal with. I guess DAI had those scenes where you have to choose one over the other - but how heartbroken can the rejected person be when they only meet your character a week ago. It still wasn't the same as watching Yen or Triss get let down.


The TW romances are narratively much better I think, but mechanically there’s more to them in DA:I, with more options as well. Not that the latter is saying much, however: I’ve found BioWarian ‘romances’ always more awkwardly annoying and/or amusing than believable.
They do seem to be getting better, but still not great.
The TW3 romances also have the weight of two games and Sapkowski’s stories behind them of course, but at best this improves the perception of the romances by those players who have actually read them.
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The relationship between Yenna and Geralt is the one of the most interesting,maturate and heartwarming one in fantasy novels for me. Especially with help of Ciri and Dandelion.

 

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I ran into this older video yesterday, which concerns itself with what makes a world feel ‘real’ or not:



(You can also find it here: http://www.gamespot....l/2300-6419045/)

While DA:I’s ‘background world’ is less lively and dynamic than Watchdogs’, what there is appears to be solely ‘there for the player’. The markers tell you where to go and what’s there, and many of the areas themselves have a certain artificial, overly designed ‘feel’ to them.

In some ways, TW3 can appear to be dangerously close to some of these issues as well. You can switch off the map markers (some of the devs themselves are on record for preferring the game this way) which turns it into a fine game for explorer types like me. With the markers on, though, there’s definitely a risk of the game feeling somewhat Ubisoftian.

In DA:I, I noticed that my gameplay quickly degenerated into ‘ticking off everything following the markers’. I was basically ‘vacuum cleaning’ markers and wasn’t really paying attention to the landscape. This was greatly helped by the fact that much of it felt overly designed / clearly artificial and wasn’t embedded into the overall world by a web of quests, lore and NPC’s.
I know from people here and on other fora (and a friend who played the game) that this is a fairly common (though not universal) experience.

In general, what I’d like to see a system where you can decide to switch the markers on and off, but even when the markers are ‘on’ they only appear when you are in the general vicinity.
The ability to ‘pin’ markers of your own with comments on the map would be nice as well, especially if the ‘automatic’ markers are switched off. All this would (hopefully) greatly enhance the sense of exploration.

Area design is another, but that may be a bit more complex. Explorer types probably prefer a different layout than players who just want to get on with the story or are mainly interested in levelling up.
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