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[Saphiron123]

Maybe, if you have hope. We've been at this for two games already.

They can't create an amazing game themselves. The game doesn't need to be like TW3 or Skyrim or whatever, it needs to be DA. Problem is, the developers don't know what made DA so loved in the first place. Fans gave incredible amount of feedback, and they gave us a shallow game even worse than DA2.

I agree. They have no idea why people loved origins. It could be more streamlined and accessible, but it doesn't have to give up it's core elements to do so, or it's emphasis on story. The fact people didn't enjoy being stuck in one city in da2 doesn't mean there should be NO cities in inquisition and all wilderness either. 

Whoever is making these decisions is the wrong man/woman for the job. They're clueless.

[FKA_Servo]

So according to you if it is an action combat = AC?

TW3 is not a tactical RPG like those you just mentioned. Trust me, it is nothing like AC.

 

TW3 didn't dumb down the game play, they made it more fluid since TW2 was clunky as hell and just awkward movement wise. The basics are still the same. They didn't delete everything that made the combat cool and remade the thing so more people could like it (DA). They refined it what they already had.

 

That's not at all what I was saying.

[dreamgazer]

Damn, I could not agree with you less. That's really how you see Ciri, who outclasses Geralt in every possible way? We should steer clear of ending stuff though wherever possible as I'm sure a lot of people aren't there yet.

Ciri may be a little beaten down after a long chase but the hunt, but she's extremely capable. And Yennifer and Triss are both as capable as any bioware character I can think of.

(shrug)

Emotional satisfaction doesn't change the facts about the mechanics, or the intention of the mechanics in relation to Ciri.

[line_genrou]

The ending is determined by a snowball fight?

 

That is a new one. It's kinda sad when you can't have valid criticism (because you obviously haven't played) and you just make things up that makes no sense.

[Saphiron123]

So according to you if it is an action combat = AC?

TW3 is not a tactical RPG like those you just mentioned. Trust me, it is nothing like AC.

 

TW3 didn't dumb down the game play, they made it more fluid since TW2 was clunky as hell and just awkward movement wise. The basics are still the same. They didn't delete everything that made the combat cool and remade the thing so more people could like it (DA). They refined it what they already had.

Yeah I've played a fair bit of AC, and the combat has nothing in common. AC is closest probably to the batman games, it'd say tw3 is closer to dark souls then ac, and it's damned different from dark souls. Far too much melee control to be compared to ac.

[dreamgazer]

The ending is determined by a snowball fight?
 
That is a new one. It's kinda sad when you can't have valid criticism (because you obviously haven't played) and you just make things up that makes no sense.

Again: http://www.vg247.com...he-best-ending/

I repeat: the ending is determined by a snowball fight.

[Saphiron123]

At the end of the day, they just changed where you pressed the button to assign yourself your attribute points. Instead of spending them flat out at level up, they're wrapped up in skill choice and crafted gear.

 

It just ends up being different - maybe even a little daring. It's no less in depth than assigning attributes at level up, though.

It's far less in depth, I had all the same options before with skills and gear, they removed an entire very important part of character management. I mean sure, make it optional for those who don't like it, but don't remove it for those of us who value character building. The gear only makes surface changes, and as for the skills, compared to origins I have only a handful to choose from.

Daring it's not, safe and watered down is how I feel it is.

[FKA_Servo]

Yeah I've played a fair bit of AC, and the combat has nothing in common. AC is closest probably to the batman games, it'd say tw3 is closer to dark souls then ac, and it's damned different from dark souls. Far too much melee control to be compared to ac.

Let's be clear that I'm not saying TW3 is an AC ripoff OR making claims about what constitutes an RPG, please.

 

Although honestly, I don't even remember what we're arguing about, at this point. Which is to be expected, I guess.

[line_genrou]

Ciri is a princess now? Haha oh please stop.

She's pretty much the most powerful person in the witcher world.

[dreamgazer]

Ciri is a princess now? Haha oh please stop.
She's pretty much the most powerful person in the witcher world.

That was a reference to this:

[FKA_Servo]

It's far less in depth, I had all the same options before with skills and gear, they removed an entire very important part of character management. I mean sure, make it optional for those who don't like it, but don't remove it for those of us who value character building. The gear only makes surface changes, and as for the skills, compared to origins I have only a handful to choose from.

Daring it's not, safe and watered down is how I feel it is.

 

Not really. Not at all RE gear.

 

Different stat boosts connected to skill choice is meh, I agree.

 

Different stat boosts connected to material choice in crafting is sort of cool. And different. At the end of the day, you're still hitting buttons on a menu to raise the same numbers according to your preference.

[Saphiron123]

Let's be clear that I'm not saying TW3 is an AC ripoff OR making claims about what constitutes an RPG, please.

 

Although honestly, I don't even remember what we're arguing about, at this point. Which is to be expected, I guess.

Yeah I know, it was just an odd comparison I think people got hung up on.

[Xetykins]

And if you only get two right, such as deciding whether to have a snowball fight instead of giving Ciri some actual mentor guidance, you get the "bad ending". Hence, the snowball fight decides the ending.Face it: everything about the ending hinges on the snowball fight. Either you choose to have it and earn a positive point for making Ciri feel good, or are forced to make the other positive decisions to get a "good" ending.

You're clearly trying to focus so much on that snowball fight. You should read the article again.

[correctamundo]

That bitter butter...

[Akrabra]

Ciri is a princess now? Haha oh please stop.

She's pretty much the most powerful person in the witcher world.

Isn't a Daughter of an Emperor a princess? Or are you just out of bullets to continue the discussion and try to derail it with superficial talk?

[Saphiron123]

That was a reference to this:

Yeah I don't see it. If princess peach was as badass as Ciri, Mario would have arrived to find bowser's head mounted on the wall.

[line_genrou]

Again: http://www.vg247.com...he-best-ending/

I repeat: the ending is determined by a snowball fight.

 

      

Spoiler

Ciri’s fate is determined by the following seven factors:

1. How you comforted her during Blood on the Battlefield
2. Whether you visited the Emperor during Blood on the Battlefield
3. Whether you accepted coin from the Emperor for bringing Ciri to him in Blood on the Battlefield
4. Whether you accompanied Ciri to a meeting with the Lodge of Sorceresses during Final Preparations
5. How you reacted to Ciri’s temper in The Child of the Elder Blood
6. Whether you took Ciri to Skjall’s Grave as a result of a choice in The Child of the Elder Blood
7. Your completion of the sidequest chain An Eye for an Eye, A Deadly Plot, Redania’s Most Wanted (Act Two) and Reason of State (Act Three)

Did you even read the link you posted?

[dreamgazer]

You're clearly trying to focus so much on that snowball fight. You should read the article again.

Having read the article numerous times and run a Geralt over level 35, I stand by my conclusion.

Of course I'm focusing on the snowball fight. It determines the ending you get.

[Saphiron123]

Isn't a Daughter of an Emperor a princess? Or are you just out of bullets to continue the discussion and try to derail it with superficial talk?

Well, when she's using the image from mario of the princess being in another castle, you know what she's getting at. Ciri is literally the daughter of the emperor, but she's definitely not a helpless damsel. 

I'm not even sure I'd consider Geralt the central character.

[dreamgazer]

Ciri’s fate is determined by the following seven factors:

• 
  
• How you comforted her during Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you visited the Emperor during Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you accepted coin from the Emperor for bringing Ciri to him in Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you accompanied Ciri to a meeting with the Lodge of Sorceresses during Final Preparations
• How you reacted to Ciri’s temper in The Child of the Elder Blood
• Whether you took Ciri to Skjall’s Grave as a result of a choice in The Child of the Elder Blood
• Your completion of the sidequest chain An Eye for an Eye, A Deadly Plot, Redania’s Most Wanted (Act Two) and Reason of State (Act Three)

Did you even read the link you posted?

Spoiler

Yep, read it thoroughly, and choosing whether to have the snowball fight still determines whether Ciri is "dead" or not.

[Akrabra]

Well, when she's using the image from mario of the princess being in another castle, you know what she's getting at. Ciri is literally the daughter of the emperor, but she's definitely not a helpless damsel. 

I'm not even sure I'd consider Geralt the central character.

No, but she is still a princess. That was my point anyway. 

[Xetykins]

Having read the article numerous times and run a Geralt over level 35, I stand by my conclusion.Of course I'm focusing on the snowball fight. It determines the ending you get.

Having read the article numerous times and run a Geralt over level 35, I stand by my conclusion.Of course I'm focusing on the snowball fight. It determines the ending you get.

Ciri’s fate is determined by the following seven factors:

• How you comforted her during Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you visited the Emperor during Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you accepted coin from the Emperor for bringing Ciri to him in Blood on the Battlefield
• Whether you accompanied Ciri to a meeting with the Lodge of Sorceresses during Final Preparations
• How you reacted to Ciri’s temper in The Child of the Elder Blood
• Whether you took Ciri to Skjall’s Grave as a result of a choice in The Child of the Elder Blood
• Your completion of the sidequest chain An Eye for an Eye, A Deadly Plot, Redania’s Most Wanted (Act Two) and Reason of State (Act Three)

Did you even read the link you posted?

[Saphiron123]

Having read the article numerous times and run a Geralt over level 35, I stand by my conclusion.

Of course I'm focusing on the snowball fight. It determines the ending you get.

I think you're trying a bit too hard here. Regardless though, DAI ALWAYS has the same ending. At least TW3 can go different directions, and not just in the main story, in many many smaller stories thoughout the game. With DAI your choices are usually limited to "do i talk to this guy and take his quest or ignore him"... not always, there's a few good choices, but fewer then any other dragon age game and certainly fewer then TW3.
 

Yep, read it thoroughly, and choosing whether to have the snowball fight still determines whether Ciri is "dead" or not.

 

And seriously, you HAVE to use spoiler tags for comments like that.

[FKA_Servo]

We're done with spoiler tags for benefit of the guys who like both games, I guess.

 

 

Yeah I know, it was just an odd comparison I think people got hung up on.

 

I think the end point is that fans on either side of any argument are universally ridiculous.

[dreamgazer]

Sorry Witcher fans, but this ...
 

Spoiler

And if you only get two right, such as deciding whether to have a snowball fight instead of giving Ciri some actual mentor guidance, you get the "bad ending". Hence, the snowball fight decides the ending.

Face it: everything about the ending hinges on the snowball fight. Either you choose to have it and earn a positive point for making Ciri feel good, or are forced to make the other positive decisions to get a "good" ending.

... is still 100% accurate.