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[Wolven_Soul]

The Hawke or Stroud choice felt like a rather forced one, to be honest. You slice and dice your way through everything against overwhelming odds, and then suddenly the game goes 'oh, you have to choose between Hawke (who may be your old character) and Stroud (the vaguely likeable 5-bit NPC with the magnificent moustache).
As with ME (Virmire), Bio is basically informing you - slightly in advance - that there's a suicide mission ahead, and that you can choose who is going to die. I thoroughly dislike this kind of glaringly artificial setups.

 

Well, with the proper world state, Stroud is replaced by Alistair or Logain, which might make the decision a bit more difficult.

[Rabastan]

Well, the faith of whomever was left in the fade isn't really set in stone yet is it... We didn't actually see them die. And then there are those rumours which I wont get into... 

[Wolven_Soul]

One thing I think Bioware could learn from CDPR is the issue of patches. We are now on patch 8 for W3 and the game has been out what 3 months. Where as Bioware took 2 months to get it first patch out.I think that has improved things for CDPR alot. Because they have not allowed prolbems to linger where as in DAI they did for months before patch 1 was released.

Isn't there still a bug where amulets of power previously found in containers are no longer there?  

[Elhanan]

It's not hard to have financial success when your riding a name like Bioware's.  With Steam refunds now a thing, I am very curious to see what happens with the next game.

Only a guess, but not much will differ, as Origins already allows for refunds, I believe.

[Wolven_Soul]

It happens with every single game. It would be unfair to single out either Bioware or CDPR for this. Fixing a problem in a piece of software is nearly always going to introduce a new problem or five of variable severity.

 

I'm glad I waited to play TW3, because I suspect some of the design decisions that were fixed would have driven me up the wall (weighted crafting materials and no stash, for example). No one can deny that CDPR seems to have been very diligent in addressing these issues in a timely fashion. Whether that means they were in the pipe beforehand versus being built from scratch post release (like I suspect Bioware's BE and stash were), I don't know.

 

Bioware's fixing things too, though. They've fixed a bunch of the control issues KBM players were having. The Black Emporium addressed a massive shortcoming with the game at release. The biggest problem I can think of that hit their patches was when the shaders and mesh settings got borked and everyone's visuals got screwed up, but they fixed that one quickly enough - not more than a day later.

 

On the other hand, they still haven't fixed the banter firing issue, as far as I know, which is mind boggling. Something that's so crucial to the charm and character of their game should have been priority one.

 

Yeah, every game is released with problems,  But Bioware took way to long to address those problems whereas CDPR got on top of things right away.  

[Wolven_Soul]

      tis wrong... tis a job for the Warden. I sent them all packing,,,

 

Feel bad for the last gen owners... the teaser is like taunting them... 

 

May just have to skip this one for now.

 

I don't have that option.  My room mate will demand that I get the DLC the day it comes out, lol.  I live with my two best friends, a married couple, and the female of the pair is a gaming house wife, so I am the source of all her gaming goodness.  Since she cooks and cleans for me though I have no problems with doing this, even if sometimes I would rather not give EAware anymore of my money.

[chance52]

Isn't there still a bug where amulets of power previously found in containers are no longer there?  

 

That isn't a bug, BioWare removed them on purpose because people discovered a way to duplicate the amulets of power and their response was to take most of them away. 

[Wolven_Soul]

As much as I think it's unfair for the last gen owners, I think it's a double edge sword.

People on last gen still managed to experience the base game. Although the quality as I've seen was appaling. I saw a screenshot where Blackwall's magestic beard being butchered. The horror! But even then, last genners seemed to still enjoy the rest of the game. That's good.

On the other hand, they shouldn't have to buy the game again if they do decide to upgrade :/ And fixes shouldn't just stop because the devs decided to move on. They have paid for the too after all.

Also last gen is not responsible for the writing. Specially the story arcs that's almost non existent.

 

 

I played the game on both gens, I originally got it for the 360, but then like a couple months later I got the XB1, so I bought the game again.  The difference was night and day.  It really was terrible on the 360, graphics looked like crap, particularly on the characters.  Sera looked deformed to me.  

[KBomb]

Well, the faith of whomever was left in the fade isn't really set in stone yet is it... We didn't actually see them die. And then there are those rumours which I wont get into... 

You know, I agree with you on this and have since day one.

 

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I remember being out with Cole on my team after Abyss and he was saying something about a Hawk was at a door and wasn't suppose to be there and was trying to get out or something akin to that. I thought that was pretty odd after I left my Hawke there. 

 

Keep in mind though, that I am deaf and miss a lot of banter if I am not in close enough to pick up subtitles, so Cole may say this regardless if Loghain, Alistair or Stroud stays behind. If so, I would love to know so I can put that to bed. I just don't think whomever is down there is dead.

[Wolven_Soul]

That isn't a bug, BioWare removed them on purpose because people discovered a way to duplicate the amulets of power and their response was to take most of them away. 

Well what the heck did they do that for?  It's a single player game it's not like they are affecting anyone else by doing that sort of thing.  I would never do it myself, I am a purist and I loathe utilizing cheats and glitches but...I have no problem with other people doing it as long as it's not a multiplayer game and they are screwing things up for me.

[Wolven_Soul]

Still subjective. I liked DAI's story a lot (some parts more than most admittedly, but that's par for the course), as did a lot of other players who aren't posting in a thread specifically about a game that's not DAI. I would differ on the combat being arcadey, as well. 

 

I also don't regard the story as finished, for that matter.

 

I think the story for DA:I is fairly weak personally.  Always have.  I thought the mage/templar war, which we spend two games working up towards, ends way, way to danged fast.  I also thought closing the big rift felt rushed as well.  Especially when we still hear people talking about the big hole in the sky after it's closed as if it's still there.  Makes me wonder if they originally intended for it to be there longer and changed it, and simply forgot to change some of that dialogue.  

 

There was just not really any truly powerful moments in this story, with the only exception for me being in the mountains after Haven.  The entire main story just felt so rushed.

[KBomb]

Well what the heck did they do that for?  It's a single player game it's not like they are affecting anyone else by doing that sort of thing.  I would never do it myself, I am a purist and I loathe utilizing cheats and glitches but...I have no problem with other people doing it as long as it's not multiplayer game and they are screwing things up for me.

I didn't use the dupe cheat, had they not removed it--I would have used it like a cheap date. I cannot express how much I hate the loot/gather system in DAI. It was one of my first complaints and one I stand by. It's horrendous and they knew that it was one of the chief complaints when they removed the glitch--yet they took no steps to fix any issue that would have enticed people to use it in the first place. 

[Wolven_Soul]

Point is, DAI was critically acclaimed by the oh so credible gaming midia.

The only people still playing this game today are basically fanboys because almost everyone moved on to something else, something better. And in 5 years no one will remember this game existed. DAO though, after 6 years we're still talking about it.

 

Well I am playing it again, but I am absolutely not a fanboy.  Believe me I am one of the most critical of this game.  I just...I bought the danged thing twice, and dangit I have to make it the whole way through the game at least once.  Tried 3 or 4 times previous to this and couldn't do it.  So I stopped for a good long while and tried again when it felt almost fresh again.  Still having to force my way through it though.

[MoonDrummer]

I haven't encountered anything remotely this haunting and disturbing in TW3.

That scene where

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Phillipa murders the one true king, and only hope for a free and fair North beat me up something shocking.

 

[Wolven_Soul]

I didn't use the dupe cheat, had they not removed it--I would have used it like a cheap date. I cannot express how much I hate the loot/gather system in DAI. It was one of my first complaints and one I stand by. It's horrendous and they knew that it was one of the chief complaints when they removed the glitch--yet they took no steps to fix any issue that would have enticed people to use it in the first place. 

Oh I fully agree with you there.  I hate the loot system in the game all the way from the pinging system to find the stuff, all the way to the crappy loot itself.

[Elhanan]

Oh I fully agree with you there.  I hate the loot system in the game all the way from the pinging system to find the stuff, all the way to the crappy loot itself.

Perhaps there should be more farm implements in jars....

[Wolven_Soul]

I'm a casual and play in the easiest. Yet that first ogier in Ostagar still owned me 6x. I certainly don't remember button smashing. I had to really look at AI and utilize tactical camera. Dont remember struggling like that on the same difficulty in DAI, even without healing.

I always play for the story so always on the easiest. Even now on TW3, Im on story mode.


So how many games came out thats actually a competition last year?

 

There were games that came out last year that were better.  Heck I think Hearthstone was better, as well as the new Wolfenstein game.  

[Rabastan]

We get it wolven_soul, you didn't like DAI and TW3>DAI to infinity... No need to quote every post from two pages ago to tell us so.

 

The thing with this topic that is the most infuriating is that the conversation gets tolerable for a minute and then reels back to things that have been said a hundred times.

 

If you are pointing out flaws, give at least a hint to a way of fixing them or is this topic really supposed to be about which games were better than DAI or snowball fights in TW3 ? Think some of you should read the first post again and see to which section this was posted to in the first place.

 

And if DAI is so intolerable to you: please move on and let the rest of us enjoy it - it's starting to spread to other topics and it's fairly annoying... It's not like CDPR doesn't have their own forums where you can gawk at their creation is it?

We get it, you love it and that's wonderful. 

 

I'm not asking for anyone to start loving DAI all of a sudden or hate TW3 but surely this could actually be a conversation worth having for ?

I'm frankly asking, this is the internet in the end after all and I'm just not sure.

[MoonDrummer]

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Your profile pic is quite distracting. 

[Rabastan]

I'm hoping it keeps the grammar nazis occupied

*not a native english speaker*

[KBomb]

We get it wolven_soul, you didn't like DAI and TW3>DAI to infinity... No need to quote every post from two pages ago to tell us so.

 

The thing with this topic that is the most infuriating is that the conversation gets tolerable for a minute and then reels back to things that have been said a hundred times.

 

If you are pointing out flaws, give at least a hint to a way of fixing them or is this topic really supposed to be about which games were better than DAI or snowball fights in TW3 ? Think some of you should read the first post again and see to which section this was posted to in the first place.

 

And if DAI is so intolerable to you: please move on and let the rest of us enjoy it - it's starting to spread to other topics and it's fairly annoying... It's not like CDPR doesn't have their own forums where you can gawk at their creation is it?

We get it, you love it and that's wonderful. 

 

I'm not asking for anyone to start loving DAI all of a sudden or hate TW3 but surely this could actually be a conversation worth having for ?

I'm frankly asking, this is the internet in the end after all and I'm just not sure.

I don't think wolven_soul has said anything disrespectful or really said anything harmful to those who like DAI nor has he said anything malicious about DAI. I have seen him give feedback in tune with the topic and not every single post has to be on topic, were that the case, this entire forum would be lifeless. For the most part, I think we have danced inside and outside the parameters of the topic at hand. 

 

Also, no one in this thread can be responsible for what another thread does. One only has to read those threads (like the one in Scuttlebutt) to see how it differs from this one. We all try to be civil, and to be honest, the arguments that do get going are often caused by someone who doesn't want to discuss anything other than why we're wrong and TW3 is bad because >insert reason<. Most arguments are squashed pretty quickly, too because we want this thread to remain. By the standards of other threads that aren't giving DAI the highest of praise, I'd say we're civil and there has been some amazing discussions, suggestions and logic shared. As for the bolded, no one is hindering your ability to enjoy anything. No one here is capable of ruining your love for DAI and certainly not your pleasure at playing it. 

[Wolven_Soul]

It's interesting that the plot can be summarized with a screenshot from Mario Bros. and that the limited ending variation hinges on a snowball fight. 

 

 

Uhhh....pretty sure thats wrong.

[Realmzmaster]

I'm a casual and play in the easiest. Yet that first ogier in Ostagar still owned me 6x. I certainly don't remember button smashing. I had to really look at AI and utilize tactical camera. Dont remember struggling like that on the same difficulty in DAI, even without healing.

I always play for the story so always on the easiest. Even now on TW3, Im on story mode.


So how many games came out thats actually a competition last year?

 

Does not matter, because all people will see as time goes by is that it won GOTY and People's Choice awards. Can anyone remember who was the competition against Crash? Does anyone remember the games Skyrim beat out?

[Rabastan]

I wasn't necessarily aiming my comment for people supporting TW3 only.

[Wolven_Soul]

The combat has more in common with AC than any RPG I can name, considering most of the ones I've played have far more in common with DAO, BG, and the like. Maybe we should turn this thread into "What is an RPG?"

 

In any case, I think they want to broaden their fanbase - something literally every developer, including CDPR, wants to do (which is probably why they turned TW series into something that is actually fun to play, as opposed to an awkward garbage clickfest like the first Witcher game - see how subjectivity works?).

 

You don't have to neuter the franchise(removal of tactics and attribute points) to broaden your fan base.  

 

Also, I have played Assassin's Creed.  At least the first two as those bored me enough, and from what I remember of the combat it was always holding down the block button until you can make a counter.  In The Witcher 3 you can dodge and roll around, cast signs, quick and fast attacks, parry and block.  Oh..and the crossbow which was more or less forgettable.  So The Witcher 3's combat is much better than AC's.