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[Saphiron123]

Point is that both game companies have made errors and choices of priorities that are not always the best sell, be it color coded conclusions or sex cards.

The funny thing is DAI spent as much time on and has as many sex scenes in the game as TW3 does, the only difference is DAI delivered 1/2 of the overall game content along with them.

Really, you're just making DAI look that much lazier when you attack one of the most content heavy games we've seen in recent years about spending time on one small aspect when DAI had a similar focus, and couldn't fill their world when all was said and done.

[Elhanan]

If you say so, then fair enough. 
 
I still feel his point was either poorly worded or simply not smart.
 
Look, I fully understand no game is for everyone. Some people don't enjoy gore or seeing sex, and that's completely fine.
 
What is unfair and nonsensical is criticizing, imo,  the game for having it.

I do this for Bioware, too; a factor why I score DAI lower than DAO. But in DAI, I am able to better control the game; not as feasible in TW3. And as many recommend, if one does not like it, play something else. Done.

But I also take the rightful opportunity to help insure that Bioware titles do not continue this trend. Since this thread is about TW3 features that are suggested to be helpful to the DA series, this ain't it, IMO.

[KBomb]

It's best to just ignore him.

 

There really isn't a need for any of us to argue about sex scenes in either game, considering you can skip sex scenes in both games. Personally, I don't care about sex scenes--if they add them, do them right. Otherwise, not important. I would trade romances in a game any day for excellent content. Both games had some good secks stuff. Older games do not need to be up for consideration. 

[Lawrence0294]

I do this for Bioware, too; a factor why I score DAI lower than DAO. But in DAI, I am able to better control the game; not as feasible in TW3. And as many recommend, if one does not like it, play something else. Done.

But I also take the rightful opportunity to help insure that Bioware titles do not continue this trend. Since this thread is about TW3 features that are suggested to be helpful to the DA series, this ain't it, IMO.

Did you really lower your DA:I score because...what, at a very certain point, if you chose so, you can see Sera and Cassandra's breasts ?

 

Yes, I understand, it is clear the Witcher 3 isn't for you, but I certainly believe you shouldn't critique the game as you haven't played it. Watching some let's plays is by no means good enough. 

 

And what trend are you talking about, showing nudity ? Did you really prefer the immersion sledgehammers that were the underwears during the "sex" scenes in DA:O ? Were you ok with Traynor taking a shower...with her bloody underwear in ME3 ?

 

 

It's best to just ignore him.

 

There really isn't a need for any of us to argue about sex scenes in either game, considering you can skip sex scenes in both games. Personally, I don't care about sex scenes--if they add them, do them right. Otherwise, not important. I would trade romances in a game any day for excellent content. Both games had some good secks stuff. Older games do not need to be up for consideration. 

I just...I must...understand...

[Elhanan]

Did you really lower your DA:I score because...what, at a very certain point, if you chose so, you can see Sera and Cassandra's breasts ?
 
Yes, I understand, it is clear the Witcher 3 isn't for you, but I certainly believe you shouldn't critique the game as you haven't played it. Watching some let's plays is by no means good enough. 
 
And what trend are you talking about, showing nudity ? Did you really prefer the immersion sledgehammers that were the underwears during the "sex" scenes in DA:O ? Were you ok with Traynor taking a shower...with her bloody underwear in ME3 ?
 
 
I just...I must...understand...

Just Ignore me; tis easier....

[Elhanan]

It's best to just ignore him.
 
There really isn't a need for any of us to argue about sex scenes in either game, considering you can skip sex scenes in both games. Personally, I don't care about sex scenes--if they add them, do them right. Otherwise, not important. I would trade romances in a game any day for excellent content. Both games had some good secks stuff. Older games do not need to be up for consideration.

Someone in another thread posted that they were not able to skip such a scene in DAI. And I prefer romance to sexual content, and romance is not a priority in a cRPG for myself either.

[Lawrence0294]

Just Ignore me; tis easier....

It would be yes, but easier is boring. 

 

...unless you want me to ignore you ?

 

 

Someone in another thread posted that they were not able to skip such a scene in DAI. And I prefer romance to sexual content, and romance is not a priority in a cRPG for myself either.

But sexual content is a part of romance. Sexual intercourse between loved ones is an important part in a loving relationship (though not at all necessary of course) and I don't understand what is wrong with showing the player the intimate moments of a couple. 

 

Maybe it is you simply don't like to see sex, and if that is the case, it's not an argument but simply about taste.

 

It is up to Bioware, in that case, to chose.

[Corto81]

Dudes. And dudettes.

Just ignore him and talk amongst yourselves for constructive conversation about either game or a comparison between the two.

Trust me, do not reply to this character, do no quote, do not read... It's the only way to make people like him go away.

[zeypher]

Another thing i hope bio adds but which i doubt is proper tech support on their forums where the devs actually interact and help to resolve issues. Ea answer HQ is not it, infact its downright terrible.

[KBomb]

Another thing i hope bio adds but which i doubt is proper tech support on their forums where the devs actually interact and help to resolve issues. Ea answer HQ is not it, infact its downright terrible.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I have seen some excuse their absence because of the threat of violence and death that some of the devs received, but I don't remember that happening here. IIRC, that happened on Twitter and/or FB-- so it's a flimsy excuse.

They should at least give answer to concerns about bugs, patches and whatnot. The little post they made in reference to the old gens being omitted from future dlc and patch support seemed a little sterile, like a form letter.

On that note, it'll be interesting how this new dlc will be, considering they don't have the excuse of the old gens anymore. I hope it's great. Not too keen on the Deep Roads, but I will try to keep an open mind and at least keep track of reviews.

[Xetykins]

Now that I've slept over that new DLC, I can't help but think that the Qunari invasion would have been the way to go. This is because it seems that they are really downplaying the taint. Everyone seems to go in and out of Deep Roads nowadays. DA2 sort of did that better with one of your siblings being tainted. And I don't think it will be the case here cuz you get there as early as reaching skyhold. But if I'm proven wrong and 1 or 2 of your companions comes out tainted, I will chew on my nasty smelly running shoes.

I just think that Deep Roads should be tackled by the wardens.

[Xetykins]

Another thing i hope bio adds but which i doubt is proper tech support on their forums where the devs actually interact and help to resolve issues. Ea answer HQ is not it, infact its downright terrible.

I was very lucky on this part I think. One and only time I needed help because ME 2 and DAI refused to boot entirely the help was excellent. She took me to many different folders and my problems was fixed fast. And I had 15% discount on 1 purchase!

[Rabastan]

Now that I've slept over that new DLC, I can't help but think that the Qunari invasion would have been the way to go. This is because it seems that they are really downplaying the taint. Everyone seems to go in and out of Deep Roads nowadays. DA2 sort of did that better with one of your siblings being tainted. And I don't think it will be the case here cuz you get there as early as reaching skyhold. But if I'm proven wrong and 1 or 2 of your companions comes out tainted, I will chew on my nasty smelly running shoes.

I just think that Deep Roads should be tackled by the wardens.

 

While I agree to some extent, maybe that's why it's not a post-game DLC ? I'm happy that we finally got something... Just keeping my fingers crossed that it's as good as it seems... and I'm hoping it'll go down like someone in the other topic suggested; each playable race getting their own dlc (JoH for Trevelyan, TD for Cadash and hopefully post-game dlc's for Adaar and Lavellan - Qunari Invasion and preferably something considering Solan'harel)

 

Spoiler for DAI: What Pride Has Wrought ahead:

Spoiler

I just hope that now that the Inquisition is heading to deep roads some of the things the Inquisitor can hear Flemeth (?) say in the Well of Sorrows about the calling is addressed or at least expanded upon a little...

 

And expanding on what I said earlier, cause the choice of wording might have been poor: I/we can absolutely enjoy the game wether or not it receives backlash or unfavourable comparison to another game...It's not what I meant with what i said KBomb but I can see how it can be interpreted that way So a poor choice of words in my part. English isn't my first language so when I write it might translate differently cause I think the response in my own language first and then write it in english.

 

The thing I think this topic needs is for some of the people to understand that just saying which was better and bicker over it is not beneficial to the conversation: matter of taste can be debated and it's good to have debate but it isn't going to change anything since it's hardly any use to try and change other people's minds on the internet - it's better to just ignore it and concentrate on what the topic is really about, which is where TW3 succeeded and DAI did not.

It's really no use defending DAI or TW3 for that matter cause that is not what the topic is about.

 

As said before: I love DAI, and maybe even 'fanboy' over it a little, doesn't mean that I can't see that it's flawed.

[FKA_Servo]

It would be yes, but easier is boring.

...unless you want me to ignore you?

This is why I propose a drinking game. I count at least 3 restatements of his reasoned justifications in the past couple of pages alone.

[Lawrence0294]

This is why I propose a drinking game. I count at least 3 restatements of his reasoned justifications in the past couple of pages alone.

Rofl, with a drinking game this thread would collapse the Feedback section 

 

(though sadly I wouldn't be able to participate, my body is allergic to alcohol  )

[Elhanan]

Now that I've slept over that new DLC, I can't help but think that the Qunari invasion would have been the way to go. This is because it seems that they are really downplaying the taint. Everyone seems to go in and out of Deep Roads nowadays. DA2 sort of did that better with one of your siblings being tainted. And I don't think it will be the case here cuz you get there as early as reaching skyhold. But if I'm proven wrong and 1 or 2 of your companions comes out tainted, I will chew on my nasty smelly running shoes.

I just think that Deep Roads should be tackled by the wardens.

Someone conjectured that since the Decent DLC was an Austin Bioware project, another might be in the works elsewhere. And someone posted that this should not be the final storied DLC. Would also like to see more Qunari, though I do not take pleasure in facing Sten on such terms.

[Rabastan]

Someone conjectured that since the Decent DLC was an Austin Bioware project, another might be in the works elsewhere. And someone posted that this should not be the final storied DLC. Would also like to see more Qunari, though I do not take pleasure in facing Sten on such terms.

 

I think it was somewhere in the twitter-topic that I read that they confirmed that there are more DLC's coming... (?) Hopefully they'll release the next one before FallOut4 - because 'reasons'... It's been about two months since they released JoH on PlayStation and last gen so here's hoping for a October/early November release - especially if there's multiple teams working on them

[Elhanan]

I think it was somewhere in the twitter-topic that I read that they confirmed that there are more DLC's coming... Hopefully they'll release the next one before FallOut4 - because 'reasons'... It's been about two months since they released JoH on PlayStation and last gen so here's hoping for a October/early November release - especially if there's multiple teams working on them

Would be nice to have something before XCOM 2 and SkyWind take over my system completely.

[Xetykins]

While I agree to some extent, maybe that's why it's not a post-game DLC ? I'm happy that we finally got something... Just keeping my fingers crossed that it's as good as it seems... and I'm hoping it'll go down like someone in the other topic suggested; each playable race getting their own dlc (JoH for Trevelyan, TD for Cadash and hopefully post-game dlc's for Adaar and Lavellan - Qunari Invasion and preferably something considering Solan'harel)
 
Spoiler for DAI: What Pride Has Wrought ahead:

Spoiler

I just hope that now that the Inquisition is heading to deep roads some of the things the Inquisitor can hear Flemeth (?) say in the Well of Sorrows about the calling is addressed or at least expanded upon a little...

I think you missed my point entirely on why I was not too hot about the dlc. Well I'm 99.9% incoherent This is another example about retconing what was originally told in Origins about blight sickness. DR used to be where only wardens and legion of the dead go, unless you're called Branka. I don't how they've done this dlc, but it seems deep roads has become another playground.

[FKA_Servo]

Wrong. They where there as a way to deal with the sex scenes. Most sex senes in video games looks downright uncanny or weird

. 

 

Most, yeah. But ME came out only a few months after TW, and its scenes really were very good, neither especially uncanny or weird - arguably the best implemented in nearly any game that contained such content, and certainly the head and shoulders above any Bioware games until DAI.

 

TW2's scenes seem like they were good too (insofar as the characters in question weren't putting on more clothing than they'd normally wear for them), although the only actual romance scene I encountered in my sole playthrough was the Rose of Remembrance scene. Still preferable to other games treatment, and just a different, more revealing side of the coin to ME's good approach

 

Haven't come across any of it in TW3 yet (I don't necessarily count the opening sequence, though that was cute), but then I'm still mostly running around Velen and doing early quests there and marveling at how the windy trees and shaky shadows aren't melting my machine.

[ashwind]

I think you missed my point entirely on why I was not too hot about the dlc. Well I'm 99.9% incoherent This is another example about retconing what was originally told in Origins about blight sickness. DR used to be where only wardens and legion of the dead go, unless you're called Branka. I don't how they've done this dlc, but it seems deep roads has become another playground.

 

Your companions in DAO does not seem to be affected by blight sickness. Even in DA2, the only one affected was like Batheny, Hawke and co does not seem to be affected as well. So I think we can forget about blight sickness. Tis just another gimmick the writers can use to pull something dramatic or conveniently kill someone. 

 

Looks like the stone wraith boss from DA2 is making a come back. I sure wish Verric says something about it if you bring him along - since their last meeting would be a pretty painful experience for him.

[Rabastan]

I think you missed my point entirely on why I was not too hot about the dlc. Well I'm 99.9% incoherent This is another example about retconing what was originally told in Origins about blight sickness. DR used to be where only wardens and legion of the dead go, unless you're called Branka. I don't how they've done this dlc, but it seems deep roads has become another playground.

 

Haha, somewhat yeah maybe... But don't mind me, I'm incoherent also...

 

One of your companions could be tainted though since it's not at the end of this instalment.. The HoF is searching for a cure and I think they might be able to write it in there... Possibly by forcing one of your companions to take The Joining (the irony, if it were to be Blackwall...) or by a way of curing, slowing or even stopping the taint. It could also be the Inquisitor since she or he already has enhanced abilities due to having the mark.

Though most likely they are just venturing to the DR cause it's the Inquisition and is there something that they cannot do basically ? It'll probably go down in a way that they acknowledge the risks and go ahead anyway and we end up losing one or both of the dwarves shown in the trailer if there are to be casualties... Though I'm really hoping there would be a new companion joining the Inquisition even though it's more probable that there isn't since it's pre-fighting Coryphenis.

[FKA_Servo]

Would be nice to have something before XCOM 2 and SkyWind take over my system completely.

 

I think we're all going to die waiting for Skywind, unfortunately.

 

That might actually be an understatement.

[The Big Red One]

Did you really lower your DA:I score because...what, at a very certain point, if you chose so, you can see Sera and Cassandra's breasts ?
 
Yes, I understand, it is clear the Witcher 3 isn't for you, but I certainly believe you shouldn't critique the game as you haven't played it. Watching some let's plays is by no means good enough. 
 
And what trend are you talking about, showing nudity ? Did you really prefer the immersion sledgehammers that were the underwears during the "sex" scenes in DA:O ? Were you ok with Traynor taking a shower...with her bloody underwear in ME3 ?
 
 
I just...I must...understand...

Maybe I could be wrong, but according to his profile he's some sort of hardcore conservative christian. Perhaps that would explain some of his attitude towards anything even remotely sexual.

 

Also, underwear sex scenes need to go away. For real.

[TheOgre]

It's my opinion that if a game doesn't have a feature or has a feature that you aren't okay with, even if it's as simple as not having enough children or having WAY too many kids or having no spaghetti monsters, a person is entitled to his ability to rate a game.

 

If a response somehow makes you uncomfortable or makes you want to strangle someone, take ten long seconds of breathing and try not to resort to personal attacks. I struggle with that one myself quite a bit..! But derailment actually hurts the overall goal which is to reach the developers for the next game with what people may want, and why people do not want certain features.

 

Just think, we could do away with RNG if they didn't see our back and forths, maybe someone will spot someones logical post about why ex. feature is good/not good between the back and forths xD

 

 

Also, underwear sex scenes need to go away. For real.

 

I just think it's rather lame of them to do that myself. Are they afraid Geralt won't satisfy people with his measurements or something?