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#10051
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Tac-Cam was not in DA2 if I recall correctly. The majority is a myth. Many like Jumping and falling being included. Races took another 13 months to add, and as one that has and enjoys the option, it is appreciated. Also believe nine Companions is too much, but do like options.

Areas have unique side content including hidden locations and loot. I do not play DA-MP, but many seem to enjoy it. The Player can re-tint armors as they wish, and select from an array of schematics. Hawke was not restricted to the War table, and could be re-made as desired.

And Pause, CC, and some other like features are not found in some others games at all; appreciate DAI including them. And while tactics are simplified, they do work, though possibly still too difficult for some Players to manage.

And still: GOTY 2014.

Is Tac-cam not the ability to pause the game and issue commands to party members? Many also dislike jumping and falling being included, the collectibles just worsen this. Races are basically cosmetic, apart from two romances and some dialogue, doesn't really have any outcome on any events or situations.

 

How much of that side-content is actually interesting and not more fetch-quests and how helpful is the loot found there? Is it set loot that never changes or is it more RNG? Doesn't matter if you can change the colour or use a different schematic if the armour design itself is ugly. Yeah Hawke was not restricted to a war table, but the set personality also clashed with many people's version of Hawke. 

 

Saying that DAI has pause and CC while comparing it to other games that don't have or need it is pretty pointless. And tactics were not simplified they were completely erased, replaced with basic presets.

 

And still: a mediocre game


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Tac-Cam was not in DA2 if I recall correctly. The majority is a myth. Many like Jumping and falling being included. Races took another 13 months to add, and as one that has and enjoys the option, it is appreciated. Also believe nine Companions is too much, but do like options.

Areas have unique side content including hidden locations and loot. I do not play DA-MP, but many seem to enjoy it. The Player can re-tint armors as they wish, and select from an array of schematics. Hawke was not restricted to the War table, and could be re-made as desired.

And Pause, CC, and some other like features are not found in some others games at all; appreciate DAI including them. And while tactics are simplified, they do work, though possibly still too difficult for some Players to manage.

And still: GOTY 2014.

No dude, it's not a myth. You stand pretty much alone, and suggesting the empty lifeless areas of dai have unique side content is an insult to side content. And no, the tactics don't work, the tactics in DAi are watered down and awful... the only way, in a 2015 game, to prevent that moron Solas from wasting his barrier in every. single. fight. is to turn it off entirely... that's not good tactics, that's terrible programming.

DAI is not a good dragon age game, I'm sorry, but that's not even a subjective assessment. It was lazy and rushed, and empty. 


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Not true. A good segment of the game is spent in Novigrad, with an extra little bit in Oxenfurt. 

 

Novigrad being one of the best cities I've seen in a game if I'm honest. 

Remember Elhanon refuses to play TW3, he'll never see novigrad for himself. He decided he hated it without even trying it once.


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Opinion is not fact. All those features are included; whether one likes them or not is an opinion.

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Opinion is not fact. All those features are included; whether one likes them or not is an opinion.

Ah no, they aren't. Taking a complex tactics system and making it yes, no, and maybe is not including it... it's tossing it out and replacing it with crappy ai. It's literally removing the gust of the mechanic.

DAI sucked dude. Bioware can do better.


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#10056
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To be honest, I think DA:I earned it's GOTY last year. I personally voted for it. But it wasn't simply for it's qualities it won, it was also because...well the competition was pretty miserable. DA:I was very lucky it landed last year and was the obvious choice compared to the other options. 

However, had DA:I released this year, boy would it've been a very different story.

 

Yeah, 2014 was a pretty abysmal year for video games.  Though, Hearthstone came out last year and I have more fun playing it than I do DA:I.  I have also heard the new Wolfenstein game was really good, it was Totalbiscuit's GOTY.  Havn't played it myself yet, but I intend to get around to it one of these days.


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#10057
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I don't need special treatment though. I never understood why people care so much about a developer reaching out that much. I buy products i believe in and i support them to the extent i believe in them. It doesn't matter if it is an Indie game or an AAA title either. I know people differ alot on this point, but for me atleast it doesn't matter. Let the flaming commence. 

 

It's not about a developer reaching out.  It's about them fixing things that need to be fixed, and showing a little gratitude for all the people that buy their games.  And not nickel and diming us the way that EA tends to do, not just with Bioware but with all the developers they have eaten up over the years.


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Yeah, 2014 was a pretty abysmal year for video games.  Though, Hearthstone came out last year and I have more fun playing it than I do DA:I.  I have also heard the new Wolfenstein game was really good, it was Totalbiscuit's GOTY.  Havn't played it myself yet, but I intend to get around to it one of these days.


And Angry Joe went with.... *don't care for either of them, though* Opinions being equal and all that.

Yet the industry and the peoples award went to DAI; can live with that fact.

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who asked for this tho 

 

I want to know so I can blame them for Val Royeaux 

Yup true. I was completely let down by lack of Val Royeaux. One of my biggest criticism.

 

Is Tac-cam not the ability to pause the game and issue commands to party members? Many also dislike jumping and falling being included, the collectibles just worsen this. Races are basically cosmetic, apart from two romances and some dialogue, doesn't really have any outcome on any events or situations.

 

How much of that side-content is actually interesting and not more fetch-quests and how helpful is the loot found there? Is it set loot that never changes or is it more RNG? Doesn't matter if you can change the colour or use a different schematic if the armour design itself is ugly. Yeah Hawke was not restricted to a war table, but the set personality also clashed with many people's version of Hawke. 

 

Saying that DAI has pause and CC while comparing it to other games that don't have or need it is pretty pointless. And tactics were not simplified they were completely erased, replaced with basic presets.

 

And still: a mediocre game

You are arguing against a lost cause. Someone who has not played both the games is under no position to compare them and choose which is better. That's the fundamental rule. Don't waste your time. 

 

Anyhow, IMO, DA:I deserved the 2014 because...well it is widely regarded as the worst year for gaming, going from the hideous Watch Dogs to even more hideous Assassin's Creed Unity. My choice would have been DS:2 or even DOS, if not for it's lackluster story. 2015 has really put forward some very good games...Witcher 3, Bloodborn, Rocket League, POE, Kerbal Space, Cities Skylines.....MGS V: PP(since it has been getting great reviews and does look promising) and who knows, maybe Fallout 4 too. Like Lawrence said before, bring DA:I to 2015 and those awards will surely diminish. But on the brighter sides, maybe EA will give more money to BioWare for DA4. 


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Overpriced compared to what? What exactly is your method for determining if a DLC is overpriced?

 

For me, DLC is overpriced if I get less enjoyment out of it than I would get out of a movie of equivalent length, assuming that the price of the movie increases linearly with its length. For example:

 

Let's say going to see a movie is $10 (it varies by region, and it's actually more expensive where live, but for the sake of argument I will round to 10). I get two hours of entertainment from a good movie. From this, I can extrapolate that an hour of entertainment is worth $5. So at a price tag of $15, or 3 x $5, Jaws of Hakkon would be overpriced if it provided me with less than 3 hours of entertainment. The shortest estimate I've seen anyone give of a JoH Playthrough was 4 hours. Therefore, JoH cannot be overpriced.

 

Personally, my playthroughs for both JoH and Descent were well over that 3 hour threshold, so it seems to me that they presented excellent value.

 

 
 

 

I've seen people ask for more story (and I'll always be pro-more-story), but the only people that I've seen demand less exploration are those who are utterly convinced that they cannot both exist. I would offer up The Witcher 3 itself as evidence that they can, in fact, both exist.

 

As for those DLCs, I certainly felt they were improvements story-wise, although that is subjective.

 
 

 

It was an unfortunate situation all-around. In hindsight, they clearly should have dropped the older consoles after they got their one year development extension.

 

However, given that it is far too late for that, I fail to see how they could have handled the situation any better. The only other options were stop releasing DLC altogether, which isn't a real solution, or keep releasing for old consoles, which I expect was an enormous money-sink (which is probably what necessitated dropping them to begin with).

 
 
 
You can be as critical of Bioware as you want, but your right to be critical does not grant you freedom from criticism yourself.
 
 
In any event, The Witcher was great and it deserves its accolades.

 

 

Wooooahhhh there.  You cannot judge video game DLC by movie standards like that.  Two entirely different mediums and it's just silly.  They each have much different expectations.  

 

That being said, both DLC's were overpriced.  JoH was pretty much more of the same crap we got during the different game.  A whole lot of filler and a beautiful area, along with a little bit of interesting story.  I didn't find anything interesting there story wise until I found out who Ameridan was.  After that it was just another dull dragon fight.  

 

Descent was even worse.  The trailer promised a Thedas shaking secret being unfilled.  Well, I am guessing they meant literally because the Titan was causing Earthquakes.  Nice bait and switch there.  It was seriously disappointing story wise because all it didn't answer any questions whatsoever, just threw a bunch of crap at us and only gave us a few fuzzy lines from the dwarf lady at the end.

 

And actually, they could have handled dropping DLC from old gen consoles better.  They could have said it straight from the beginning that they were going to do that, and I would not be at all surprised if they had that intention from release.  Naturally they didn't do that because then they would not have gotten any old gen sales.  The whole thing is despicable.  


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Am not comparing the games as they are too different. Hope TW3 wins GOTY 2015 over FO4. But I do enjoy DAI quite a lot, and have the gameplay hours as evidence to that. Am unwilling to purchase TW3 due to a lack of Pause, and excessive ESRB material.

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It wasn't directed at you specifically, and I felt the need to say it because often when people say they're getting flamed, what they really mean is that someone criticized their opinion. That's why you start hearing cries of "Bioware Defense Force" or "Biodrones" whenever someone criticizes the opinion of someone critical of the game. They take it personally instead of identifying it for what it is.

 

I have never used those terms, but I have definitely thought them.  Only when I hear people gushing about the game and absolutely refusing to admit to any of it's many, many flaws.  I don't mind people loving the game, but refusing to admit to it's flaws irritates the crap out of me.  And they take critisizing opinions just as personally a lot of the time.  I point you towards the Drinkquisition as evidence of that.

 

Although, I found it rather amusing when I got called a Biodrone once and I am one of those most critical of the game.


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You're expressing yourself fine. Some people will defend flaws to the death and will deflect and analyze any and all sentences in an effort to take any discussion of off the real issues and focus on something as silly as wording, meaning and subtext. It's their right to do so, of course, but you can't eat the blame for that. It's an issue that lies within themselves. 

 

Personally, I don't see how anyone can still defend bugs not being fixed. Party banter is inconsequential to me, as I am deaf, but I can see how it would be game-breaking in the sense that for some traversing in complete silence and missing out on content (yes, it is content) would be something that would deter them from playing. I remember when the thread was open that was questioning why Bioware would fix the duping glitch and defenders were stating, "Because it isn't how Bioware meant for the game to be played." and I see some of those same people defending the actions of still present bugs stating, "Oh, it isn't that big of an issue. I have had no problem with it." If it's a known bug and it is causing issue with any paying customer, then fix the damn bug. Don't stop until it is fixed. Stop releasing broken and expensive item packs and fix the damn bugs present in the main game that people are still complaining about almost a year after release. It's asinine that modders have to step in to fix known issues.

 

And really, people need to stop defending those hairstyles. There is no defense for all those Three Stooges styles. 

 

I hate the 'It's not how Bioware meant for the game to be played' defense.  I don't give a crap how Bioware meant for the game to be played.  Once I buy the thing, it's mine and I will play it however I damn well please.  For that matter, it is an RPG for crying out loud.  We're supposed to be able to choose how we want to play.  Who cares if people were duping the danged amulets.  It does not affect anyone but themselves.  

 

I found a rather helpful glitch involving the halla statues, and I for danged sure will not mention it here as I don't want them to fix it.  Just in case I ever decide to play the game again.


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Things became a bit brighter for TW3 and the GOTY 2015 awards. XCOM 2 is apparently delayed until 2016:


http://kotaku.com/xc...uary-1727227128

 

I don't think it would have mattered.  TW3's main competition is going to be the new Metal Gear game.  I would add Arkham Knight to that, but I found it a bit on the disappointing side.  That and it's bad PC port is gonna hurt it there.



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Personally dislike city adventures as a rule, so I do not miss them.

One of the things I liked hearing about TW3 is someone mentioned that cities were optional, I believe; unconfirmed.

 

I really don't get that.  When done right, as both TW3 and DA:O did, a city can be a wealth of added lore and culture and stories.  



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And Angry Joe went with.... *don't care for either of them, though* Opinions being equal and all that.

Yet the industry and the peoples award went to DAI; can live with that fact.

 

I like Angry Joe a lot, but overall he tends to be way to generous with his scores.  I respect Totalbiscuit's opinion a lot more than I do Angry Joe's.  



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I really don't get that.  When done right, as both TW3 and DA:O did, a city can be a wealth of added lore and culture and stories.


Cities often add crowds; not my fave thing. I spent 25+ yrs on graveyard shift, and avoided them as much as possible. Remember having to take a day off of gameplay when I first encountered multiple quest givers in Neverewinter. Am better now, but still do not enjoy them. Prefer other environs.

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I don't think it would have mattered.  TW3's main competition is going to be the new Metal Gear game.  I would add Arkham Knight to that, but I found it a bit on the disappointing side.  That and it's bad PC port is gonna hurt it there.

Its main competition its not Metal Gear Solid, or it could be. Its Fallout 4 though. Bethesda has won for their last 3 games, so they are huge favourites. 



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I don't really give much thought about GOTY. I just want good games..in a reasonable amount to be released at any particular year. 2014 was so abysmal. Only DOS and to some extent; DS, Mordor, DA:I gave me joy. This year has been very good so far, except Batman...for obvious lazy PC port. I really hope that MGSV and Fallout 4 turn out to be excellent. I have great respect for Kojima. Bethesda, till now, has never let me down. I would not mind if GOTY goes to either of those 2 titles. Even if CDPR doesn't bag GOTY, they have given me once in a lifetime experience, which I'll rejoice forever..and I am sure I am not the only one who shares that emotion. 

 

 

Off-topic- I just moved to Florida from India. Since this is an uncharted territory to me, are there any good place to visit in FL? :D 


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The full version of a Night to Remember has been released!
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=s2oVSwflClQ
 
They've also released 25 previously unavailable soundtracks.


So just curious - is this a trailer for something in particular, or does it just advertise the song? And are we able to download other songs not on the soundtrack for free?

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So just curious - is this a trailer for something in particular, or does it just advertise the song? And are we able to download other songs not on the soundtrack for free?

It's the full version heard on 'A Night to Remember' cinematic trailer. 

 

 

I have no idea if the other songs have to bought or not, I assume that'll be for free with the complete edition or the enhanced, if they do one.



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DOS was an amazing experience. Very underrated. The combat was so much fun. DOSII looks very promising from what I've seen in Joe's video. Hopefully Larian succeeds.

I became a backer as soon as I saw the video. D:OS2 has the potential to  be something very special and unique. In an era where a lot of games tend to blend into one due to rising costs and publishers not wanting to take risks, companies like Larian stepping out and doing there own thing and actually innovating is something I'm ready to support.

Looking forward to playing the enhanced edition of D:OS as well. I've completed it in its original form, but thought the writing was amateur at best, so looking forward to playing the re-write.



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Things became a bit brighter for TW3 and the GOTY 2015 awards. XCOM 2 is apparently delayed until 2016:


http://kotaku.com/xc...uary-1727227128

I don't mind waiting an extra few months for X-com 2. Very much looking forward to that one as well.



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I don't really give much thought about GOTY. I just want good games..in a reasonable amount to be released at any particular year. 2014 was so abysmal. Only DOS and to some extent; DS, Mordor, DA:I gave me joy. This year has been very good so far, except Batman...for obvious lazy PC port. I really hope that MGSV and Fallout 4 turn out to be excellent. I have great respect for Kojima. Bethesda, till now, has never let me down. I would not mind if GOTY goes to either of those 2 titles. Even if CDPR doesn't bag GOTY, they have given me once in a lifetime experience, which I'll rejoice forever..and I am sure I am not the only one who shares that emotion. 

 

 

Off-topic- I just moved to Florida from India. Since this is an uncharted territory to me, are there any good place to visit in FL? :D

I don't know where you are, exactly, but my Godparents live in Florida and last I visited they took me to a restaurant called Ola at Sanctuary. It was hands down the best place I've ever eaten. It's cuban cuisine and it's just really a wonderful, warm place. I will never visit Florida without going there now. 

 

This is exactly what I meant by game breaking. And I know I'm not the only one to feel that way. I remember seeing a lot of people here on the forums postponing their second and third playthroughs waiting for a fix that never came out.

 

By the way, KBomb, I love how articulate your comments are.  :wub:  :lol:

Thank you. That is very kind of you to say.  :)

 

Not true. A good segment of the game is spent in Novigrad, with an extra little bit in Oxenfurt. 

 

Novigrad being one of the best cities I've seen in a game if I'm honest. 

I agree. It's full of ambience and character. I still find new things whenever I visit it. I also love the different class sections and the various ways they differ. 


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It's crazy how many small - but interesting things I've come across in NG+; stuff that I missed before due to making different choices, or not looking hard enough.

 

Still dunno whether I should have mein Geralt end up with Triss or Yen. First time 'round I romanced neither, and while him being alone on the path wasn't all that bad I think it'd be better to have him end up with someone to keep him company. Reading through different posts on the internet didn't help the situation. Think I'm even more conflicted now because of it. Would've been way easier if Shani was an option.

 

On another note, I read that in the books Voorhis

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Curious if that's also the case in the game, if you make the right choice in Reason of State. Originally, I thought he was gonna be another scumbag Nilfgaardian who I'd spend the entire game hating and wishing I could kill him, but I ended up kinda liking him. Dunno if there's more to him, but he didn't seem like that bad a guy. I prefer him to White Flame Dancing on His Own Grave.