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#10101
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Some people will defend flaws to the death and will deflect and analyze any and all sentences in an effort to take any discussion of off the real issues and focus on something as silly as wording, meaning and subtext. It's their right to do so, of course, but you can't eat the blame for that. It's an issue that lies within themselves. 

 

I'm not even gonna touch the irony of that statement. In fact, I'm exiting this thread before I get smothered by the groupthink.

 

Final thoughts: DAI is great, TW3 is better, both have room for improvement, and I hope they both keep making better games because of those facts. Peace.


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Oh yeah, duh!  Lol, don't know why that slipped my brain when I wrote that post.  Yeah, FO4 for sure is it's top competition.

I don't know... Since bethsheeda is attempting to follow a road they can't handle... Having a voiced protagonist requires cinematic feel and overall good writing... In this side bethseeda went downhill since morrowind...Not even mentioning how the tes series now is so dumbed down and they have not show anything with the character page...

 

Bethsheeda have the same problem of bioware... They did a marvelous setting with morrowind... and extabilished a lot of the lores of the other Tamriel provinces "For example Cyrodill was supposed to be a jungle" and then dumbed down things since Oblivion at the point now in skyrim we have a really worse skill system lack of spell creation overall dumbed down magic and a quest consistency nearly absent "warrior that become the archmage of winterhold,killing the emperror with the dark brotherhood and later join the imperial army and make oath to protect the emperror, or the infamous whiterun: The city is closed because of dragons... yeah indeed.. the imperials carry the symbol of a winged dragon so is well know dragons have wings adding the fact that alduin destroyed helgen on flight...It is really usefull close the doors because a dragon could walk inside....(the dumbest things ever)

 

So i will keep my fallout4 expectation low... for the moment.



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Prefer to judge a game on it's own merits; not by comparing it to a previous standard. And while I enjoy Skyrim quite a lot, have no desire to play the earlier systems, but eagerly await SkyWind to experience the much acclaimed Morrowind story.

But will be giving FO4 a pass; much the same reasons as TW3.

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I don't know... Since bethsheeda is attempting to follow a road they can't handle... Having a voiced protagonist requires cinematic feel and overall good writing... In this side bethseeda went downhill since morrowind...Not even mentioning how the tes series now is so dumbed down and they have not show anything with the character page...

 

Bethsheeda have the same problem of bioware... They did a marvelous setting with morrowind... and extabilished a lot of the lores of the other Tamriel provinces "For example Cyrodill was supposed to be a jungle" and then dumbed down things since Oblivion at the point now in skyrim we have a really worse skill system lack of spell creation overall dumbed down magic and a quest consistency nearly absent "warrior that become the archmage of winterhold,killing the emperror with the dark brotherhood and later join the imperial army and make oath to protect the emperror, or the infamous whiterun: The city is closed because of dragons... yeah indeed.. the imperials carry the symbol of a winged dragon so is well know dragons have wings adding the fact that alduin destroyed helgen on flight...It is really usefull close the doors because a dragon could walk inside....(the dumbest things ever)

 

So i will keep my fallout4 expectation low... for the moment.

 

Skyrim had it's flaws, but it was still a fantastic game.  I think it's skill system, with the addition of perks, was a lot better than Oblivion's or Morrowind's.  I did not personally miss the spell creation system, I never really used it much.  Magic was especially weak in Oblivion, much stronger in Skyrim.  I personally enjoyed having the weapon in one hand, magic in the other playstyle.  

 

I will agree with you that having a warrior based character as the archmage of the mage guild was pretty stupid though.  I do miss that from Morrowind, the fact that promotion in the guilds is depended on your skills.  

 

That aside, there were still a lot of great quest lines in the game.  The main quest was weak, but a lot of the side content was really strong, particularly the Dark Brotherhood.  Yeah, closing Whiterun because of dragons seemed silly, but they were frightened, and felt that they had to do something. 

 

Bethesda has their flaws, so does every game company.  Bethesda's main weakness is it's storytelling and their writing.  

 

Where they excel at, perhaps better than any other company, is their world building, and making those worlds live.  People might mock them for their 'worker bees', but no other game has come close to having anything as good as those worker bees until TW3 came along.  The NPC's in Bethesda games have lives, they go to work, they shop, they go to the taverns at the end of the day.  

 

I for one am incredibly excited to see what they do with the new gen consoles, to see how much they have improved.



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Prefer to judge a game on it's own merits; not by comparing it to a previous standard. And while I enjoy Skyrim quite a lot, have no desire to play the earlier systems, but eagerly await SkyWind to experience the much acclaimed Morrowind story.

But will be giving FO4 a pass; much the same reasons as TW3.

 

You really liked Skyrim...but are not gonna play FO4, which is basically Skyrim with guns in a post-apocalyptic setting, if previous iterations are any indication.  Not getting the comparison to TW3 there.



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You really liked Skyrim...but are not gonna play FO4, which is basically Skyrim with guns in a post-apocalyptic setting, if previous iterations are any indication.  Not getting the comparison to TW3 there.


Excessive ESRB content; a reason I have skipped Gopher's LP's on this series, too.

But I have 2800+ hrs in Skyrim. The first 70+ hrs in 3rd person to make sure it was viable, the first 700+ hrs with only a single mod (ie; No More Blocky Faces), and the rest as a modded renewal project. Climates of Tamriel is my favorite mod, and currently use ca. 90 of them.

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You really liked Skyrim...but are not gonna play FO4, which is basically Skyrim with guns in a post-apocalyptic setting, if previous iterations are any indication.  Not getting the comparison to TW3 there.

 

I really like Skyrim (and Fallout 3) as well but i'm passing on Fallout 4 due to the it's awful dialogue system.



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I really like Skyrim (and Fallout 3) as well but i'm passing on Fallout 4 due to the it's awful dialogue system.

Much like the great dialogue system in The Witcher 3? 2 options to move the conversation forward, amazing!  Abit sarcastic btw.

 

I really don't care what kind of dialogue system a game has, aslong as the dialogue itself is good. I do prefer written lines though, as i am completly aware of what my character is about to say. Abit bothered by that in later Dragon Age entries and The Witcher 2/3. 


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I really like Skyrim (and Fallout 3) as well but i'm passing on Fallout 4 due to the it's awful dialogue system.


What is bad about it? I understand it will reportedly now be full VO and use a dialogue wheel, but have accepted that progressive change some time ago.

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Much like the great dialogue system in The Witcher 3? 2 options to move the conversation forward, amazing!  Abit sarcastic btw.

 

Never claimed it to be great, i actually don't think it is. My complaint about Fallout 4's conversation system is that it seems to be even more ambiguous than Witcher 3 and modern Bioware games systems. And that's what really hinders my enjoyment of those games, the constant surprise of what comes out of the protagonist mouth i'm supposedly in control of. 

 

Give me full control of what my character says, such as PoE, or no control, any JRPG, and i'll be a happy camper.



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Excessive ESRB content; a reason I have skipped Gopher's LP's on this series, too.

But I have 2800+ hrs in Skyrim. The first 70+ hrs in 3rd person to make sure it was viable, the first 700+ hrs with only a single mod (ie; No More Blocky Faces), and the rest as a modded renewal project. Climates of Tamriel is my favorite mod, and currently use ca. 90 of them.

 

Ohhhhhh....gotcha.



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Never claimed it to be great, i actually don't think it is. My complaint about Fallout 4's conversation system is that it seems to be even more ambiguous than Witcher 3 and modern Bioware games systems. And that's what really hinders my enjoyment of those games, the constant surprise of what comes out of the protagonist mouth i'm supposedly in control of. 
 
Give me full control of what my character says, such as PoE, or no control, any JRPG, and i'll be a happy camper.


I have seen so little of FO4 to know how the system will work to judge it for myself; simply heard enough to know it isn't for me.

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Never claimed it to be great, i actually don't think it is. My complaint about Fallout 4's conversation system is that it seems to be even more ambiguous than Witcher 3 and modern Bioware games systems. And that's what really hinders my enjoyment of those games, the constant surprise of what comes out of the protagonist mouth i'm supposedly in control of. 

 

Give me full control of what my character says, such as PoE, or no control, any JRPG, and i'll be a happy camper.

 

Seems a silly reason to not play a game to me but...to each their own.  I'm with Akrabra on this one, as long as the dialogue is great, and it is great in both DA:I and TW3, it can be as ambiguous as it wants to be.  We haven't really see enough of FO4's dialogue to really judge it much.


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I like Joe mainly because I like hearing his opinions. I know a lot of people find him annoying, but he makes me laugh at times. I am not quite sure I watch him for reviews, per se. If I want to know if a game is good enough to play, I usually ask friends. 

I actually kind of agree with him about Nintendo's practices--but that is another long topic. 

I agreed too about Nintendo, but he lied several times in his video to give it power. His viewers gifted him the Wii U and his viewers gave him some games. 

 

He then called out anyone that could possibly disagree with his video labeling them as haters. Nintendo has a history of being jerks but they have still made progress toward being less Dbaggy toward people who want to LP their games. 

 

His grand standing behavior looked more desperate than any defense that DAI is the 'best' of the dragon age series. That's why I can't watch his videos anymore. He's not the only entertaining guy I stopped watching over a rumor or a behind the scenes (to name another, Nostalgia Critic and his "Boss" are really nasty people).

 

Most of his reviews are amazing and point out good flaws in games while being pretty accurate. I liked his GW2 review. But there are other reviewers out there that haven't yet gave me a bad impression.

 

I'm surprised he gave DAI a 9/10. I thought he'd give it a 8 considering the amount of bugs/flaws at launch though. I'd put it at 8/10 myself though as it currently stands, 7/10 at launch, definitely a 9/10 if they announced that they were going to focus on fixing bugs, bringing back amulets of power, fixing banter.



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I have seen so little of FO4 to know how the system will work to judge it for myself; simply heard enough to know it isn't for me.

Fallout is skyrim in a nuclear future. You love skyrim... it's your ultimate example of DAI should be. 



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I agreed too about Nintendo, but he lied several times in his video to give it power. His viewers gifted him the Wii U and his viewers gave him some games. 
 
He then called out anyone that could possibly disagree with his video labeling them as haters. Nintendo has a history of being jerks but they have still made progress toward being less Dbaggy toward people who want to LP their games. 
 
His grand standing behavior looked more desperate than any defense that DAI is the 'best' of the dragon age series. That's why I can't watch his videos anymore. He's not the only entertaining guy I stopped watching over a rumor or a behind the scenes (to name another, Nostalgia Critic and his "Boss" are really nasty people).
 
Most of his reviews are amazing and point out good flaws in games while being pretty accurate. I liked his GW2 review. But there are other reviewers out there that haven't yet gave me a bad impression.
 
I'm surprised he gave DAI a 9/10. I thought he'd give it a 8 considering the amount of bugs/flaws at launch though. I'd put it at 8/10 myself though as it currently stands, 7/10 at launch, definitely a 9/10 if they announced that they were going to focus on fixing bugs, bringing back amulets of power, fixing banter.


My own score of DAI is 8.5/ 10, or 4/5 at Amazon. I rank the series as DAO > DAI > DA2, but have enjoyed them all.

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Ok, so I just saw a trailer for the Trespass DLC - out September 8th, apparently.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=h7hXqo_B7OY

It looks goddamn glorious. It would seem they're making up some of their lost ground. Two story based DLC in rapid succession.

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I think Angry Joe genuinely enjoyed playing DAI more than I did.  He had a good time.



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Ok, so I just saw a trailer for the Trespass DLC - out September 8th, apparently.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=h7hXqo_B7OY

It looks goddamn glorious. It would seem they're making up some of their lost ground. Two story based DLC in rapid succession.

 

Can you give me some details? What happened in the trailer? I missed it and now it's private :{



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Can you give me some details? What happened in the trailer? I missed it and now it's private :{


I just noticed that too. Ten bucks says it leaked before PAX this weekend. It was posted by EA Spain, or something affiliated.

It's that long rumored qunari war DLC. Looks like a lot of action, a lot of warfare, a lot of politics, and possibly some Morrigan?

It looks great, though. I only caught it once myself so I can't give much detail, sadly.
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I just found this gifset from the trailer http://cradleofsulev...-angry-we-saved

Looks really nice :D

 

Edit:

Screenshots http://imgur.com/a/wIpi2#0

 

Edit:

Trailer


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Wow Alix Wilton really delivered in that trailer, more depth than in the entire game. Looks freaking awesome!


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That...was freakin great !

 

Of course, it has to release right after I start classes.

 

Props for Miss Wilton, fantastic voice acting.

 

That's the DLC I was actually waiting for.


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I have to say that dlc looks freaking amazing. That is the "feeling" I have been waiting for when it comes to DAI dlc. Finally, to be excited-- feels good. I just hope it will be as good as the trailer leads me to believe it is.
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I agreed too about Nintendo, but he lied several times in his video to give it power. His viewers gifted him the Wii U and his viewers gave him some games. 

His fans donated money so he can buy one, he was very open with that fact and even made a video about it when he first got it. Technically he still paid for it with his job...which is playing games on Twitch and doing Youtube reviews. It's just that when certain fans donated, they wanted the money to be used specifically to buy a Wii U and that's what he did.  I can't say I agree with Angry Joe 100% but I do feel that people focused far too much on how he acquired the system to discredit his argument. 

 

As for his reviews. I like him and I usually think he's spot on with how I feel about certain games. I even liked his DAI review although I didn't like as much as him and would never give it such a high rating.


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