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#10526
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Don't care if TW3 is acclaimed or not; also skip GoT and other fare that include questionable content. But the DA series has quite enough 'feels' for their fans, though perhaps not enough for all of them on the forums.

 

 

Don't care.


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#10527
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I finally found the Where the Wolf and Cat play (?) this play through and

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#10528
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So, I was playing around with the free cam and to contribute something to the topic. Bioware should learn how to do cities, which look like  someone could live in there.

 

 

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#10530
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DAI did not require a city this time:

http://cdn5.stevivor...s-1-800x450.jpg

http://media.gamerev...spasser_001.jpg

http://www.centrumhe...uisition_07.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot...eTrespasser.jpg

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I finally found the Where the Wolf and Cat play (?) this play through and

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Spoiler

 

I am waiting for the next update/patch before I play again and it's killing me. I wish they'd hurry and release it, but I haven a feeling they won't until the expansion comes out in October.

The differences are:

 

*One is massive, one is large

 

One is full of life, one is full of nothing.

 

**One is chock full of places to explore, one is just superimposed in the background. 

 

One you can be a part of, one you're just looking out a picture window. 

 

* One is being used as a general term to compare. I obviously mean cities and locals that are presented in both your post and nici2412's.

 

**With the exception of Winter Palace, which is still very small considering the scope. I am glad they did bulk it up a bit. It needed it.


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DAI did not require a city this time:http://cdn5.stevivor...s-1-800x450.jpghttp://media.gamerev...spasser_001.jpghttp://www.centrumhe...uisition_07.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot...eTrespasser.jpg


I'll raise you with
The Witcher 3 Beautiful & Amazing World 4K Trailer: http://youtu.be/8No75TEByZo
and

The Witcher 3 | Day/Night timelapse | Xbox On: http://youtu.be/iAywMI_819E

and still managed this:

So, I was playing around with the free cam and to contribute something to the topic. Bioware should learn how to do cities, which look like  someone could live in there.
 
 
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I am waiting for the next update/patch before I play again and it's killing me. I wish they'd hurry and release it, but I haven a feeling they won't until the expansion comes out in October.
The differences are:
 
*One is massive, one is large
 
One is full of life, one is full of nothing.
 
**One is chock full of places to explore, one is just superimposed in the background. 
 
One you can be a part of, one you're just looking out a picture window. 
 
* One is being used as a general term to compare. I obviously mean cities and locals that are presented in both your post and nici2412's.
 
**With the exception of Winter Palace, which is still very small considering the scope. I am glad they did bulk it up a bit. It needed it.


Believe one is a pic of the outside of the Winter Palace. The others are possibly ancient ruins or the Qunari stronghold; both of which are partially explored in the Trespasser DLC.

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Thank you, I will try there. :)

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I personally wouldn't say "be like The Witcher" because I'd rather not have two franchises that are mirrors of each other.

 

What I would say instead is that when it comes to borrowing or being inspired by elements from other games I would prefer they take more inspiration from The Witcher 3 than from Skyrim or another Elder Scrolls game.

 

This is mostly because although DA and Skyrim are both rpgs (specifics and technicalities aside), they're rpgs that seem to focus on two different things such as exploration compared to story. The Witcher 3 seems more similar in that regard and so I think it would be a better choice if they were to look to another game for ideas.

 

EDIT: To avoid further confusion I am aware that The Witcher 3 is story-driven which is why I said that in borrowing or being inspired by elements, Bioware should look to games like TW3 instead of games focused on exploration like Skyrim.



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I agree there are a lot of moments like that in Witcher 3, would be great if Bioware could do that more in their games again, I missed it in Inquisition. Before the thread's troll rushes to his keyboard to once again defend Bioware, let me reinforce the FACT that he has zero clue what he is talking about because he hasn't played Witcher 3. Yes there were a couple of moments in DAI but they were no where near as powerful as moments in Witcher 3.

@chrstnmonks if you want to add spoiler tags it's just [ spoiler ] text you want to hide then [ / spoiler ] without the spaces. :) Sorry I got ninja'd LOL

For me the most emotional, as in actually made me shed a tear were

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DAI had Haven's destruction where it doesn't matter if you save people or not they still get replaced at Skyhold so it loses it's impact. The only other thing that had any impact for me was Cole's backstory or rather the story of the boy he was impersonating, but nothing moved me to tears in DAI and I was disappointed that none of my decisions had any real impact on the world...

 

Oh I agree so much.  Both moments you mentioned got me a little misty eyed in TW3, and that is not easy to do with me.  DA:I just does not have those kinds of moments.  And I know that Bioware is capable of those kinds of moments to.  Both previous DA games had them.  ME had them.  So they just dropped the ball in terms of emotional impact in DA:I.


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Spoiler

 

I am waiting for the next update/patch before I play again and it's killing me. I wish they'd hurry and release it, but I haven a feeling they won't until the expansion comes out in October.

The differences are:

 

*One is massive, one is large

 

One is full of life, one is full of nothing.

 

**One is chock full of places to explore, one is just superimposed in the background. 

 

One you can be a part of, one you're just looking out a picture window. 

 

* One is being used as a general term to compare. I obviously mean cities and locals that are presented in both your post and nici2412's.

 

**With the exception of Winter Palace, which is still very small considering the scope. I am glad they did bulk it up a bit. It needed it.

 

And Elhanon is smashed again, surprising absolutely no one whatsoever. 


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I personally wouldn't say "be like The Witcher" because I'd rather not have two franchises that are mirrors of each other.

 

What I would say instead is that when it comes to borrowing or being inspired by elements from other games I would prefer they take more inspiration from The Witcher 3 than from Skyrim or another Elder Scrolls game.

 

This is mostly because although DA and Skyrim are both rpgs (specifics and technicalities aside), they're rpgs that seem to focus on two different things such as exploration compared to story. The Witcher 3 seems more similar in that regard and so I think it would be a better choice if they were to look to another game for ideas.

 

If I am understanding your post correctly, you think that TW3 is focused on exploration rather than story?  If so...you are so very, very, very wrong there.  


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Spoiler

 

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For a second i thought, there were 12 more DLCs to come but then i realised, that the picture was older and about the 16 free DLC. :lol:



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I personally wouldn't say "be like The Witcher" because I'd rather not have two franchises that are mirrors of each other.
 
What I would say instead is that when it comes to borrowing or being inspired by elements from other games I would prefer they take more inspiration from The Witcher 3 than from Skyrim or another Elder Scrolls game.
 
This is mostly because although DA and Skyrim are both rpgs (specifics and technicalities aside), they're rpgs that seem to focus on two different things such as exploration compared to story. The Witcher 3 seems more similar in that regard and so I think it would be a better choice if they were to look to another game for ideas.


No one is saying DA should be a mirror of Witcher 3, if you read the thread people are suggesting that DA should have things like more story driven side quests like Witcher 3 has rather than so many fetch quests... etc... etc... etc...

Have you played Witcher 3, because it is heavily story driven and like the DA series used to have it has decisions that have consequences something DAI did away with for the most part.

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There are several choices and consequences in DAI if one cares to look. One of the newer ones from the epilogue DLC can also be rather key:

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And Elhanon is smashed again, surprising absolutely no one whatsoever.


LOL I don't think he has worked out that I lot of us have blocked him either, only time I see any of his garbage posts is when someone quotes him. All I get is a white bar because I got so sick of his desperate lies and claims which mainly exist only in his headcannon and not the game. Plus of course he is totally and utterly clueless about Witcher 3 anyway as he has never played it and refuses to play it, he just chooses to keep banging on about why he won't play it.
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#10543
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LOL I don't think he has worked out that I lot of us have blocked him either, only time I see any of his garbage posts is when someone quotes him. All I get is a white bar because I got so sick of his desperate lies and claims which mainly exist only in his headcannon and not the game. Plus of course he is totally and utterly clueless about Witcher 3 anyway as he has never played it and refuses to play it, he just chooses to keep banging on about why he won't play it.


And yet, some have said, and continue to say things about DAI that are incorrect, even if they have purchased the game. Funny how that works, ain't it....
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#10544
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New Oxenfurt soundtrack for new expansion. Beautiful as ever.

 

this is giving me serious Shani feels 


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I agree there are a lot of moments like that in Witcher 3, would be great if Bioware could do that more in their games again, I missed it in Inquisition. Before the thread's troll rushes to his keyboard to once again defend Bioware, let me reinforce the FACT that he has zero clue what he is talking about because he hasn't played Witcher 3. Yes there were a couple of moments in DAI but they were no where near as powerful as moments in Witcher 3.

@chrstnmonks if you want to add spoiler tags it's just [ spoiler ] text you want to hide then [ / spoiler ] without the spaces. :) Sorry I got ninja'd LOL

For me the most emotional, as in actually made me shed a tear were

Spoiler


DAI had Haven's destruction where it doesn't matter if you save people or not they still get replaced at Skyhold so it loses it's impact. The only other thing that had any impact for me was Cole's backstory or rather the story of the boy he was impersonating, but nothing moved me to tears in DAI and I was disappointed that none of my decisions had any real impact on the world...

the scene was 

Spoiler

There are many such moments in TW3. I find them sorely missing in DAI. 

Which is sad DAI had so much potentional, but it is all wasted now.


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#10546
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LOL I don't think he has worked out that I lot of us have blocked him either, only time I see any of his garbage posts is when someone quotes him. All I get is a white bar because I got so sick of his desperate lies and claims which mainly exist only in his headcannon and not the game. Plus of course he is totally and utterly clueless about Witcher 3 anyway as he has never played it and refuses to play it, he just chooses to keep banging on about why he won't play it.

 

I'm not clueless about TW3, and while needlessly antagonistic (seriously if everyone annoyed me and I annoyed everyone, I'd just leave the thread alone), Elhanan's not wrong either.

 

I've shelved TW while waiting for the Triss patch to hit and gone back playing DAI for the past week, I'm more convinced than ever that the two games - or TW and any Bioware game, really - can scarcely be compared, because so much of it - the world building, the story telling, the story priorities - are just so different. And possibly more to your tastes. Which is, of course, fine.

 

The people who carry on and on about how awful DAI is are about as wrong as anyone can possibly be about something so subjective. That's to say, they're not wrong, but they're never going to be right, either.

 

That being said, I'm wrapping loose ends in my favorite playthrough right now in preparation for Trespasser (which I haven't even played yet), and while of course the game's not perfect, it's evident to me that it's very much a labor of love. Still a wonderful game.


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#10547
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I'm not clueless about TW3, and while needlessly antagonistic (seriously if everyone annoyed me and I annoyed everyone, I'd just leave the thread alone), Elhanan's not wrong either.

 

I've shelved TW while waiting for the Triss patch to hit and gone back playing DAI for the past week, I'm more convinced than ever that the two games - or TW and any Bioware game, really - can scarcely be compared, because so much of it - the world building, the story telling, the story priorities - are just so different. And possibly more to your tastes. Which is, of course, fine.

 

The people who carry on and on about how awful DAI is are about as wrong as anyone can possibly be about something so subjective. That's to say, they're not wrong, but they're never going to be right, either.

 

That being said, I'm wrapping loose ends in my favorite playthrough right now in preparation for Trespasser (which I haven't even played yet), and while of course the game's not perfect, it's evident to me that it's very much a labor of love. Still a wonderful game.

You have played The Witcher series so you have an informed opinion, Elhanan has not. But yet when anybody says anything positive  about TW3 he comes back with a reply about how DAI is allegedly better or doesn't need this improvement. He refuses to play the game but in the same breath will berate TW3 for sex and bad language. Which ironically DAI has. But somehow gets a pass for doing so from him. He can at anytime express his uninformed opinion ofcorse, but just don't expect people to not get tried of it and react accordingly.


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There are several choices and consequences in DAI if one cares to look. One of the newer ones from the epilogue DLC can also be rather key:

Spoiler

Too bad you have to pay money to see the result of those choices. 

 

 

LOL I don't think he has worked out that I lot of us have blocked him either, only time I see any of his garbage posts is when someone quotes him. All I get is a white bar because I got so sick of his desperate lies and claims which mainly exist only in his headcannon and not the game. Plus of course he is totally and utterly clueless about Witcher 3 anyway as he has never played it and refuses to play it, he just chooses to keep banging on about why he won't play it.

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Too bad you have to pay money to see the result of those choices. 
 
 

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The story of Cole and his choice of Spirit or humanity was in the Vanilla game. So were the choices that led to the Spoiler. Both are examples of why the game and paid DLC have been worth it to me, as well as the free DLC in The Black Emporium. I do hope the same can be said of TW3.

Other choices that dealt with the Divine, and each Companion seemed to have bearing on the epilogue. And the choices made at the end of the DLC seem to indicate the possible consequences in the future DA series; unconfirmed, but the story appears to reveal those paths.

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The story of Cole and his choice of Spirit or humanity was in the Vanilla game. So were the choices that led to the Spoiler. Both are examples of why the game and paid DLC have been worth it to me, as well as the free DLC in The Black Emporium. I do hope the same can be said of TW3.

Other choices that dealt with the Divine, and each Companion seemed to have bearing on the epilogue. And the choices made at the end of the DLC seem to indicate the possible consequences in the future DA series; unconfirmed, but the story appears to reveal those paths.

Yes you get to see the actual consequences of some of your decisions in a paid DLC :wacko: Too bad they couldn't have just had it in the base game. I guess 30 mounts, fetch quests and a bunch of pretty but useless areas where higher priority. 


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