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[KBomb]

Geralt doing other things while searching for Ciri does make sense. I am not sure why people keep stating that. He doesn't know where she is, he looking for clues, tracking down leads, waiting for news and building allies and contacts. Witcher contracts make sense because he has to earn coin. Also, a lot of the side quests lead into information about Ciri's whereabouts, it is one of those "You scratch mine, I stratch yours." deals.

I mean, I know DAI had some priority side quests that felt important to do in the brink of world annihilation, like leading a lost druffalo home, finding a widow's ring, getting up to shenanigans with Sera and finding books for Vivian and the all important quest of tracking down a man's ram and convincing him to return home, but I am sure one can overlook the misplaced quests and poor writing it in TW3, if they try really, really hard.

On a serious note, open world games have to have side quests, no matter how dire the situation is. A lot rides on how interesting, well written and how consuming they are. I feel TW3 wins in this regard, hands down. Every side quests has a story, a cutscene and most lead you deeper into other quests and all are well written.

More importantly, gathering of materials feels natural and doesn't gobble up your time. Unlike having to back travel to Emprise de Lion a million times to gather and mine some good rock. I have minions for that. Poop rolls downhill!

Edit: I tried to catch them, but please excuse any typos. I had a manicure and now feel like I have sausage fingers using my phone.

[Xetykins]

Some Side Quests in DAI:* Still Waters - Crestwood* For the Empire - Exalted Plains* Lost Souls - Fallow Mire* Red Water - Storm Coast* Capturing the various KeepsSuch quests seem to be ignored when discussing content, likely because they do not fit the agenda of some here. And these are ones encountered by my latest Inq; now at 16th due to new Trial settings.

No one said all quests in dai are bad. C'mon read up a.bit.

I kinda liked the quest where you follow Flemeth and Keiran into the fade, the Abyss quest and the goat flinging Avvar warlord.

[KBomb]

No one said all quests in dai are bad. C'mon read up a.bit.

I kinda liked the quest where you follow Flemeth and Keiran into the fade, the Abyss quest and the goat flinging Avvar warlord.

I especially liked Cole's and Solas and Varric's personal quests. And though I love Calpernia, I really loved Samson's quest.

[Elhanan]

No one said all quests in dai are bad. C'mon read up a.bit.

I kinda liked the quest where you follow Flemeth and Keiran into the fade, the Abyss quest and the goat flinging Avvar warlord.

Yes; a few have. A bit hard for me to find as all Ignored posts look alike. But one recent one was found that generalizes like some others:

Monika83 - "...not even mentioning the game content outside the main quest are extremely dull and boring... Because don't tell me that recover 10 pelt is fun... "

And then there are those that simply come in for there supposed first visit to sling falsehoods about like confetti:

DanielR - ..."As I said, thats just my taste, but storylinewise I don`t even have to compare DAI to the Witcher. Inquisition in itself is a lazy written, uninspired and unlogical product. The things we experience ingame don`t fit the story beeing told. Bioware is telling the story about the most hated criminal in Ferelden and Orlais developing into a symbol of hope and a savior. Yet less than one hour into the game, the supposed murderer of the divine is trusted with a decision that affects the lives of several loyal soldiers. Later on the Herald, aka the only person who could seal fade rifts, constantly puts his life at risk by solving everyones problem. I am the leader of the Inquisition, right? So why do I have to fetch cough syrup for some pesants wife or ocupy stone pits?...."

Perhaps this was missed when exploring Haven: http://dragonage.wik...nt_Observations

Critics like to lift from the context, post what they wish, and many accept it simply because it falls into their own criticisms, even if they are exaggerated at best; complete falsehoods at the worst.

[KBomb]

Yes; a few have. A bit hard for me to find as all Ignored posts look alike. But one recent one was found that generalizes like some others:


And then there are those that simply come in for there supposed first visit to sling falsehoods about like confetti:


Perhaps this was missed when exploring Haven: http://dragonage.wik...nt_Observations

Critics like to lift from the context, post what they wish, and many accept it simply because it falls into their own criticisms, even if they are exaggerated at best; complete falsehoods at the worst.

That's all you do. Everytime you criticize TW3, it is lifted from context and I remember when all you did was throw exaggeration at best and falsehood at worst about TW3. Let us not forget your words to describe the game once--vulgar and vile, among other things.

I played through every quest in DAI I found the majority of side quests boring and dull--just because you found them otherwise doesn't mean either of us are wrong. Just means we have different tastes. At least the majority of us who compare the quests do so informed because we have played both games. Before you accuse others of generalizing, might want to keep that in mind.

[Elhanan]

That's all you do. Everytime you criticize TW3, it is lifted from context and I remember when all you did was throw exaggeration at best and falsehood at worst about TW3. Let us not forget your words to describe the game once--vulgar and vile, among other things.

I played through every quest in DAI I found the majority of side quests boring and dull--just because you found them otherwise doesn't mean either of us are wrong. Just means we have different tastes. At least the majority of us who compare the quests do so informed because we have played both games. Before you accuse others of generalizing, might want to keep that in mind.

I have criticized the ESRB content allowed in the series; have very little critical claims other than the lack of Pause for the rest of the game, I believe. The comments you ref are still speaking about this undesirable content served in an alluring game. As another has mentioned, "C'mon read up a bit".

[KBomb]

I have criticized the ESRB content allowed in the series; have very little critical claims other than the lack of Pause for the rest of the game, I believe. The comments you ref are still speaking about this undesirable content served in an alluring game. As another has mentioned, "C'mon read up a bit".

This is the ESRB for TW3, which you found to be vulgar, vile, etc. Yet, not once I have heard you say those exact words for DAI's ESRB, which isn't much better. Also, trust me when I say your criticism has reached for beyond the pause function at times. 

[Xetykins]

And then there are those that simply come in for there supposed first visit to sling falsehoods about like confetti:

So far, you are the only one on this thread I've seen do this

The rest are just stating their opinions that differs your own.

[Elhanan]

This is the ESRB for TW3, which you found to be vulgar, vile, etc. Yet, not once I have heard you say those exact words for DAI's ESRB, which isn't much better. Also, trust me when I say your criticism has reached for beyond the pause function at times.

Am fairly certain that I have explained that such content in DAI is allowed more Player control; leashing the Mad Dog. I am able to bench the Iron Bull and Blackwall, and avoid the majority of bad language; also aided by scant use of Sera and Varric. The nudity and sexual content is contained to Romance arcs; thus rather easily avoided.

This is not the case with TW3, as such language is used more commonly, and the sexual content is apparently more frequent.

[Xetykins]

and the sexual content is apparently more frequent.

1 and 1/2 playthroughs and I haven't seen even one sex scene.

[Elhanan]

1 and 1/2 playthroughs and I haven't seen even one sex scene.

But nudity has been seen in every LP, and many trailers. If the sexual escapades can be avoided; congrats, but someone should mention this to Conan and the unicorn....

[KBomb]

Am fairly certain that I have explained that such content in DAI is allowed more Player control; leashing the Mad Dog. I am able to bench the Iron Bull and Blackwall, and avoid the majority of bad language; also aided by scant use of Sera and Varric. The nudity and sexual content is contained to Romance arcs; thus rather easily avoided.

This is not the case with TW3, as such language is used more commonly, and the sexual content is apparently more frequent.

Yet, how do know a lot of the content can't be avoided or benched in TW3? How do you know if you've never played it?

Did you play DAI before you read the ESRB? Sounds pretty irresponsible for someone who places such import on such things, if not---that means you read the ESRB to DAI before playing, therefore not knowing you could avoid anything at all and yet, played it anyway--which means you really don't place that much importance on smut as long as it is something you like.

[KBomb]

But nudity has been seen in every LP, and many trailers. If the sexual escapades can be avoided; congrats, but someone should mention this to Conan and the unicorn....

Relying on second-hand information and making judgements on assumptions? Le gasp.

Also, what trailers show nudity? Not saying you're lying, I just genuinely cannot remember.

As for skipping sex and the like, it has been stated many, many, many times in this thread that yes, they can be avoided. That is the problem with basing your information on LP when your views are often linear and are presented according to how the player is playing.

Playing the game yourself is most
reliable.

[Elhanan]

Yet, how do know a lot of the content can't be avoided or benched in TW3? How do you know if you've never played it?

Did you play DAI before you read the ESRB? Sounds pretty irresponsible for someone who places such import on such things, if not---that means you read the ESRB to DAI before playing, therefore not knowing you could avoid anything at all and yet, played it anyway--which means you really don't place that much importance on smut as long as it is something you like.

The difference is I have played Bioware games and attended these forums for nearly two decades; they have earned my trust. Plus, I followed such topics before game launch, and was fairly certain that the Iron Bull would sit the same bench as James Vega. And look; was proved correct.

Recommend being an informed consumer....

[Elhanan]

Relying on second-hand information and making judgements on assumptions? Le gasp.

Also, what trailers show nudity? Not saying you're lying, I just genuinely cannot remember.

As for skipping sex and the like, it has been stated many, many, many times in this thread that yes, they can be avoided. That is the problem with basing your information on LP when your views are often linear and are presented according to how the player is playing.

Playing the game yourself is most reliable.

Prefer to save the funds when gathered intel proves me to be correct.

[Xetykins]

But nudity has been seen in every LP, and many trailers. If the sexual escapades can be avoided; congrats, but someone should mention this to Conan and the unicorn....

Its the same in inquisition which can be avoided and skipped if you like. But I think you know this and just like to stir crap or use it to fuel your your bias.

Also, what trailers show nudity? Not saying you're lying, I just genuinely cannot remember..

Maybe he means the 1 millisecond of nipslip on the A Night to Remember. Oooorr maybe the nekked sexy vampire itself when it transformed.

[KBomb]

Its the same in inquisition which can be avoided and skipped if you like. But I think you know this and just like to stir crap or use it to fuel your your bias.
Maybe he means the 1 millisecond of nipslip on the A Night to Remember. Oooorr maybe the nekked sexy vampire itself when it transformed.

Monster bewbs are sexual to him? How did he ever get through the Brood mother fight? Lol

[KBomb]

The difference is I have played Bioware games and attended these forums for nearly two decades; they have earned my trust. Plus, I followed such topics before game launch, and was fairly certain that the Iron Bull would sit the same bench as James Vega. And look; was proved correct.

Recommend being an informed consumer....

Sounds biased to me. You know it can be avoided in TW3 because god knows you have imformed yourself enough in this thread alone. Being an informed consumer indeed....unless that knowledge can better served unknowing and used to taint and belittle a game not to your liking.

[Elhanan]

Sounds biased to me. You know it can be avoided in TW3 because god knows you have imformed yourself enough in this thread alone. Being an informed consumer indeed....unless that knowledge can better served unknowing and used to taint and belittle a game not to your liking.

I cannot recall if optional gameplay was mentioned or not, but if the language and nudity would follow suit, and someone would add a Pause feature, I might be more inclined to play it.

[Xetykins]

I cannot recall if optional gameplay was mentioned or not, but if the language and nudity would follow suit, and someone would add a Pause feature, I might be more inclined to play it.

Did you play the Trespasser?

[Elhanan]

Did you play the Trespasser?

Yes. And as informed, the profane outburst by the Inq was avoidable. Wish it could also be said of TW3.

[Xetykins]

Yes. And as informed, the profane outburst by the Inq was avoidable.

And how did you avoid it? By skipping?

[Elhanan]

And how did you avoid it? By skipping?

By choosing another available response. The writer informed us of this prior to DLC launch. Link added:

https://twitter.com/...812112388173825

[Xetykins]

By choosing another available response. The writer informed us of this prior to DLC launch.

So the writer warned you that there will be profanity on this dlc that has strong language rating ?
Wow.. if this is true .. then... bioware.....nevermind...

[Elhanan]

So the writer warned you that there will be profanity on this dlc that has strong language rating ?
Wow.. if this is true .. then... bioware.....nevermind...

Link added with the ref Tweet.