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[Morty Smith]

I hope blood & wine will pay omage to the hangover-quest from W2 with a glorious river-crossing minigame.

[Akrabra]

Sounds biased to me. You know it can be avoided in TW3 because god knows you have imformed yourself enough in this thread alone. Being an informed consumer indeed....unless that knowledge can better served unknowing and used to taint and belittle a game not to your liking.

Can't really skip any of the "foul" language in either of the games, and why would you? Not you in general, just people. You can skip the Inquisitor saying it, but not companions or npc's. Elhanan, how did you advance the quest line in Mass Effect 2 without Aria swearing?

[KBomb]

Can't really skip any of the "foul" language in either of the games, and why would you? Not you in general, just people. You can skip the Inquisitor saying it, but not companions or npc's. Elhanan, how did you advance the quest line in Mass Effect 2 without Aria swearing?

I don't know myself. In both games I think its usage is appropriate and suitable.

[Elhanan]

Can't really skip any of the "foul" language in either of the games, and why would you? Not you in general, just people. You can skip the Inquisitor saying it, but not companions or npc's. Elhanan, how did you advance the quest line in Mass Effect 2 without Aria swearing?

Cannot recall; was perturbed about Jack, and only played the game a single time. This was the reason I did not pre-order ME3, and waited until Chris Priestly tipped me on which characters to avoid.

[panzerwzh]

I hope blood & wine will pay omage to the hangover-quest from W2 with a glorious river-crossing minigame.

First priority should be revisit certain liberary with Fringilla! Knowledge is power. ☺️

[FKA_Servo]

 

Ok.

 

Has anyone figured out why Elhanan dislikes ME2 and has given a pass to The Witcher series yet by the way? I'm on the edge of my seat, I tell ya.

[Wolven_Soul]

Did you play the Trespasser?

 

Him and that pause feature.  What a close minded gamer.

[Elhanan]

Ok.
 
Has anyone figured out why Elhanan dislikes ME2 and has given a pass to The Witcher series yet by the way? I'm on the edge of my seat, I tell ya.

The answer is not problematic....

[Elhanan]

Him and that pause feature.  What a close minded gamer.

The mind is rather open; tis the hands and nerves that are closed.

[Wolven_Soul]

I don't know myself. In both games I think its usage is appropriate and suitable.

 

Well, except for maybe Thaler, lol.  But he's funny.

 

Seriously though, the whole idea of foul language seems silly to me.  Words are words, it's more our perception of them that makes them foul rather than any foulness that they actually have.  Based on that, you could probably raise a child to believe that words like love and compassion are the true bad words.

 

Just my opinion, don't tar and feather me please.  

[Elhanan]

Well, except for maybe Thaler, lol.  But he's funny.
 
Seriously though, the whole idea of foul language seems silly to me.  Words are words, it's more our perception of them that makes them foul rather than any foulness that they actually have.  Based on that, you could probably raise a child to believe that words like love and compassion are the true bad words.
 
Just my opinion, don't tar and feather me please.  

And yet, we have filters and mods that check here for such perceived phraseology, and ToS which we all agreed to when joining BSN. Head canon or not, the reality is that there is offensive language, and love and compassion are currently not part of it.

[chrstnmonks]

Just finished Avallac;h quest through space and time have to say I was quiet impressed with it. Liked it alot.

[KBomb]

And yet, we have filters and mods that check here for such perceived phraseology, and ToS which we all agreed to when joining BSN. Head canon or not, the reality is that there is offensive language, and love and compassion are currently not part of it.

Yes and some of it is ridiculous. Somd words that get by verses the ones that get censored are laughable.

@Wolf--- Thaler's language is appropriate for his character, though. He is a salty kind of dog.

[Elhanan]

Yes and some of it is ridiculous. Somd words that get by verses the ones that get censored are laughable.

@Wolf--- Thaler's language is appropriate for his character, though. He is a salty kind of dog.

Yet once discovered, either way it is penalized.

[KBomb]

Yet once discovered, either way it is penalized.

Yes, Captain Obvious, we know.

[Wolven_Soul]

Yes and some of it is ridiculous. Somd words that get by verses the ones that get censored are laughable.

@Wolf--- Thaler's language is appropriate for his character, though. He is a salty kind of dog.

 

Oh I know, was just being ironical.  

[panzerwzh]

No, no, no, Thaler could be funny romantic and polite. Ask Shani.

[chrstnmonks]

I have a question if anyone can answer

Spoiler

Is the White Frost caused be ERedin and his raiders or is it something independnant of them? I done Avallac'h quest and it made it seem like that there was no stoping it that it was fear that is driving Eredin. But in other parts it is mentioned that the Wild HUnt's raiders when they travel cause the frost. If someone could explain it would be really cool.

[duckley]

You know what I wish they had more of in DA:I - close ups. One of the things I love about TW3 is the number of close ups you get - in side quests, witcher contracts and of course the main quests....

 

as for your question chrstnmonks - I believe the answer is caused by....

[panzerwzh]

I have a question if anyone can answer

Spoiler

Is the White Frost caused be ERedin and his raiders or is it something independnant of them? I done Avallac'h quest and it made it seem like that there was no stoping it that it was fear that is driving Eredin. But in other parts it is mentioned that the Wild HUnt's raiders when they travel cause the frost. If someone could explain it would be really cool.

Nope White frost is a historical catastrophic which symbolizes the ending of a world. It has nothing to do with wild hunt only some of them could open protals of white frost.

[Wolven_Soul]

Nope White frost is a historical catastrophic which symbolizes the ending of a world. It has nothing to do with wild hunt only some of them could open protals of white frost.

 

Yeah, I think, not entirely sure, but I think they open portals to worlds that have already been destroyed by the White Frost.  Something like that anyway.

[MoonDrummer]

Well, except for maybe Thaler, lol.  But he's funny.

 

Seriously though, the whole idea of foul language seems silly to me.  Words are words, it's more our perception of them that makes them foul rather than any foulness that they actually have.  Based on that, you could probably raise a child to believe that words like love and compassion are the true bad words.

 

Just my opinion, don't tar and feather me please.  

I don't understand it either it comes off as really snobby to me. Where I come from sentences are 90% swear words. 

[DanielR]

Cannot speak to the writing and characters of the Witcher series, as I choose to skip them. However, the high quality of writing in DAI is widely acclaimed and awarded....

I`d recommend you give it a try. It`s really worth it. Regarding awards: I don`t give them much thought and don`t believe good reviews automatically equal a good game.

 

I get the "skipping argument" and maybe it`s my fault, because I always try to complete everything there is to do in a game, but I much rather have the writers present me with fitting side quests, that tie into my character or the atmosphere, than skip loads of content.

 

As for the examples:

+ 1hour vs longer time span: I was talking about the decision you have to make on how to approach the Temple of the Sacred Ashes in the tutorial. Sneaky or head on. You get to choose, although still beeing a prisoner.

+ Rift: There was no such explanation. Demons just appeared as with every other rift. But ok. Then why does no one in the cult react to it? Why do they stay there taking their chances with demons possibly appearing instead of moving out?

+Dragons: Alright. But I still have my problems with the lazy repetetiveness of the dragon fights.

+Desert: Just watched a walkthrough. You`re right. Maybe I fell for her expression "that one cave" without pointing me a direction. Sorry.

+Race: I disagree. If the daughter even offers a horse race with all the dangers around, she doesn`t acknowledge the circumstances. For me, such behaviour disrupts the atmosphere.

+Mages: Talking about consequences and not about opiniondropping by companions or NPCs. Where was the quest about craftsmen leaving Skyhold when you invite Fiona - offsetting the rebuilding efforts. Where was the quest about former templars murdering mages - maybe reducing your influence points. Why didn`t Sera even try to leave the group. I haven`t experienced anything similar in my playtrough.

 

Point is: these examples (and many more, like the filler quests, the Warden arch, the inability to portray true misery, wrong pacing ...) prevented me from feeling like a chaotic worlds last hope and the leader of a political power. Even failed to get me emotionally invested in the story.

 

So Corypheus may be a lunatic and his actions don`t have to make sense to me. But at least they have to make sense within his own mindset. If his number one goal is to enter the fade and he does so with the anchor, why doesn`t he try to abduct the Inquisitor? Of course you get attacked by his henchmen when you enter certain regions, but I never had any quest where they actively tried to come after me. Except Haven of course, but that was early in the game. Did he lose interest afterwards? Yeah, he is trying to become a god, but I understood the whole warden corrupting started even before he lost the anchor - at a time where his plan was to open the breach and enter.

PS: What flying temple? 

[DanielR]

I'm with ya except for this thing.  Every big RPG needs smaller things to do.  After all, though Geralt is looking for his daughter, he stops to help a lady fix her religious idols, or put a ring on another lady's dead husband's grave, or give swordsmanship lessons to a pretty lady or any number of other things Geralt does that has naught to do with finding Ciri.  

 

True. But Witcher 3 does a better job of hiding this. First, the Wild Hunt isn`t an (obvious) omnipresent threat to the whole world, so I didn´t feel out of place (until the island of course) when I fixed the idols or killed a wyvern. I was on my way, tracking Ciri and while passing by I lend a hand. Plus, it fit`s the character. Geralt is a witcher and hunts monsters for a living. The majority of side quests also contributed to the atmosphere.

 

In DAI it is too much unrelated filler stuff for my taste. As the leader of a political power I have no business occupying stone pits, collecting herbs/minerals/shards, hunting rams, getting healing balm, leading cattle home, etc. It`s not even my task to kill bandits/wolves/dragons on a daily basis. I should have subjects for this.

Dealing with this stuff made me feel out of place and prevented the game from creating a consistent atmosphere.

 

Would have been nice to avoid this by creating fitting side events or beeing able to play parts of the game as a companion and delegate the fetch quests to them  

[DanielR]

And Eredin is a great villain?. He has 12 lines the entire game, and he has been built up as a main villain for 2 games prior to this one.Eredin had over 20 minutes of dialogue in The Witcher and lots of fleshing out in The Witcher 2, and they reduce him to a sunday morning cartoon.  Its poor and lackluster. Same with Avallach which makes no sense compared to the book where he wants to use Ciri, not help her. The White Frost retcon at the end, enough said. Geralt acted like he didn't know about the White Frost, but he has actually been there and saw first hand what would happen when the prophecy came to life.  The last act of the game was so poor that it ruined the franchise for me, way worse than anything Dragon Age did.

 

And the time Geralt is spending doing side activities while Ciri is missing and beeing hunted makes no sense. Actually months can pass because you can meditate in the game and time will pass. In DA:I you are actually out there cleaning up Thedas and spreading the word and influence of the Inquisition. Even if the activities sucks atleast it makes sense. 

 

I can look at Inquisition and say "Corypheus is a poor villain", when i look at TW3 i see retcon's to everything i spent two games learning and loving. Don't act as if the game is so high and mighty, it is so flawed in its main-quest writing. And if i get one comment that is "But the side-quests are so great". Well guess what i don't play a game solely for the side-quests. It is a part of the game that i do like, but it is nothing if the main-quest is this messed up. 

 

I could probably spend an hour or two on writing up everything wrong with The Witcher's 3 story as a sequel, as a stand alone game its fine, but its the last of a series and it ends poorly compared to the two first games. Sorry if i spoiled anything, for anyone. I am taking a chance seeing as the game has been out a few months.

Have to think about that. I just started "Blood of the elves", so I`ll see if I still like the game when I finished reading the books. In the game there is this elf girl in Avallachs laboratory though, hinting at him using Ciri.

 

Haven`t had the chance to play W1 and W2 again, so it`s been a while. From what I recall, the Wild Hunt actually got presented as ghosts right? Regarding Geralt beeing to the White Frost: It was one of Jacques visions/illusions, why take it more serious than the prophecy - and in the final part (the one with Avallach and Ciri) of W3 I didn`t get the feeling of him not knowing about it, but of him beeing helpless and desparet. 

 

In DAI the evil overlord strives to kill empress Celene to spread chaos, but instead of rushing to her aid I am free to travel from one end of the map to the other. Visit some temple (that has nothing to do with the story). Examine some shards (that have nothing to do with the story). And after that week to month long travel, Celene is still alive. Not much sense either. At least with the side quests in W3 Geralt is making a living while tracking Ciri. Makes sense to me - until he gets to the Island of the Mists.

 

True, Eredin/the Hunt is a very onedimensional villain too. Nontheless I`d take him over Corypheus any given day. The Hunt hurts those I love, destroyes my home, kills people - gets me personally involved. The villain doesn`t always need to be completely fleshed out, but he needs to make me hate him. The Hunt did. At least more so than an abstract destroyer of worlds in Corypheus.

 

Only real problem I had with the ending: It felt rushed, no conclusion to the "war" over Nowigrad and the side note quarrel between Lugos and Crach. If you are ever able to spare 1 or 2 hours, write it down. I`m curious.

Btw: Ever tried Game of Thrones by Cyanide? Might like the villain there