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[Eelectrica]

 

If they are indeed adding a multiplayer mode to Cyberpunk, this is a given. If CDPR releases any sort of multiplayer game in 20whenever the hell, and it doesn't have RMTs, I will literally and truly eat my hat. Not even they can get away with that.

I don't see that optional MP has to equal microtransaction though. There are plenty of examples of games having MP but not having Microtransactions.  The Borderlands series is probably the best example. I mean they give away golden keys via social media so players can get addition loot if desired.

 

The way I see it working in CP is as a co-op experience where someone can join a game and help out on a mission or something.

All speculation of course as precious little is really known at this stage, but I would be disappointed if they sunk to Microtransactions after putting themselves up as the good guys.

 

Finally started HoS, met some of the new locals, Siegfried's old buddies, Wild/Rabid boars, Arachnomorphs. Mouse almost went through the monitor after a few failed attempts, watching them scurry away, just out of reach, but eventually got the damned nest. Can't say as I'm a fan of the Yrden nerf... My plan is to clean up as many of the new ?'s as possible, hopefully hit lvl 34 for the Mastercrafted gear and do the storyline.

[FKA_Servo]

I don't see that optional MP has to equal microtransaction though. There are plenty of examples of games having MP but not having Microtransactions.  The Borderlands series is probably the best example. I mean they give away golden keys via social media so players can get addition loot if desired.

 

The way I see it working in CP is as a co-op experience where someone can join a game and help out on a mission or something.

All speculation of course as precious little is really known at this stage, but I would be disappointed if they sunk to Microtransactions after putting themselves up as the good guys.

 

I agree that it's possible, and I can conceive of ways in which a no frills multiplayer mode could have been great fun in DA.

 

I just think it's incredibly unlikely. They're too tempting to pass up. I would love to be surprised though.

[KBomb]

Overall I do agree with your point, I just meant to say that the differences in the word use was all just marketing ultimately. I'm not trying to criticize CDPR in their offering. While I very much disagree with people who ascribe to them some motivation beyond profit - I happen to think they're just very adept business people who realize that treating your consumers in a manner they (i.e., the consumers) see as respectful is the best way to grow a business - I think it's pretty clear that a lot of CDPR's practices are to gamer's benefit. 

I can get behind this view point.

[Xetykins]

Glad they did not shoehorn mp in TW3 because it really just does not fit. I fully expect it to have it in Cyberpunk because I think it is such a wide open game and it is a shooter it seem. I am sure also that CD will have more tasteful micro transactions in there other than taking away sp mechanics and sell them on mp. I also expect to have a nice co-op going on there more importantly it will be fun like ME as I've seen on ME MP vids.

[Elhanan]

From one of those articles:

The game will also have sandbox elements and some form of multiplayer, though CD Projekt Red stresses that Cyberpunk 2077 is a "true RPG," and definitely not a multiplayer shooter.

[KBomb]

From one of those articles:

Why do you keep posting this? It's almost as if you're trying to gloat. Even from your quote it sounds like it won't be standard MP, but rather some element from it. Since the game doesn't even come out for a couple of years, that very well may change, especially if the idea isn't met with enthusiasm by fans. A lot can change within years. You act as though you've discovered some damning revelation when right now it's an idea that as far as we know hasn't even been implemented or with any plans to do so.

I remember seeing a lot of stuff that was supposed to happen in DAI, but never reached fruition. A lot of ideas that never saw the light of day. What is your linking and quotes trying to prove?

[Gileadan]

Heh. Obviously CDPR is held to a different standard than BioWare there. Anything that CDPR ever said in any interview will absolutely come true, while complaining about features you saw in an early BioWare trailer missing in the final product makes you a fool who doesn't know what alpha footage is.

[Elhanan]

Why do you keep posting this? It's almost as if you're trying to gloat. Even from your quote it sounds like it won't be standard MP, but rather some element from it. Since the game doesn't even come out for a couple of years, that very well may change, especially if the idea isn't met with enthusiasm by fans. A lot can change within years. You act as though you've discovered some damning revelation when right now it's an idea that as far as we know hasn't even been implemented or with any plans to do so.

I remember seeing a lot of stuff that was supposed to happen in DAI, but never reached fruition. A lot of ideas that never saw the light of day. What is your linking and quotes trying to prove?

That MP is appearing in single Player games. So those expressing their dislike of it in those earlier pages have a little time to get prepared for it.

[KBomb]

That MP is appearing in single Player games. So those expressing their dislike of it in those earlier pages have a little time to get prepared for it.

Yeah, I think it's an already established fact that some single player games have MP. Great revelation that.

It's also a bit early to prepare for anything in Cyberpunk, since it isn't to be out for a few years.

[Elhanan]

Yeah, I think it's an already established fact that some single player games have MP. Great revelation that.

It's also a bit early to prepare for anything in Cyberpunk, since it isn't to be out for a few years.

And that CDPR is included in making said games.

[KBomb]

And that CDPR is included in making said games.

Because they mentioned the prospect of a MP element in a game that isn't even coming out for around three years? Seriously?

Furthermore, so what?

[Elhanan]

Because they mentioned the prospect of a MP element in a game that isn't even coming out for around three years? Seriously?

Furthermore, so what?

So all those lovely posters condemning the idea a few pages ago can prepare to see MP in all sorts of future projects.

[KBomb]

So all those lovely posters condemning the idea a few pages ago can prepare to see MP in all sorts of future projects.

How old are you again?

They condemn it because they dislike it. A lot of people disliked MP in DAI, yet still liked the game. We have no idea if MP will be in said future project, so there is nothing to prepare for. There is no confirmation, so you should save your pat on the back until there is one.

[Akrabra]

So all those lovely posters condemning the idea a few pages ago can prepare to see MP in all sorts of future projects.

Why do you bother? People here don't care anymore, and you probably contributed to over a 100 pages in this thread for what? That time could have been spent on so many other things. Like actually playing DA:I or you know life away from the screen. 

[Xetykins]

Heh. Obviously CDPR is held to a different standard than BioWare there. Anything that CDPR ever said in any interview will absolutely come true, while complaining about features you saw in an early BioWare trailer missing in the final product makes you a fool who doesn't know what alpha footage is.

Well not all. RedKit anyone? But I think they under estimated how long they're going to need it for, specially when Blood and Wine is still in progress.

[panzerwzh]

Well not all. RedKit anyone? But I think they under estimated how long they're going to need it for, specially when Blood and Wine is still in progress.

An upgraded version of RedKit is coming...

[Lawrence0294]

An upgraded version of RedKit is coming...

Not exactly, they just updated the modkit but they added very little. 

 

It's still very far from the Redkit they said they would do. 

[Morty Smith]

On a side-note:

 

Are you guys stoked to get your free Divinity: Enhanced Edition for PC today, given you bought/supported the original?

 

I know I am.

[FKA_Servo]

That MP is appearing in single Player games. So those expressing their dislike of it in those earlier pages have a little time to get prepared for it.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm really grateful that you posted this. It would have completely blindsided me otherwise, but thankfully I now have time to prepare.

Now, having delivered your fateful missive, perhaps you should return to your future and reevaluate all the ways you get your jollies. Antagonizing people for its own sake is concerning.

[Lawrence0294]

Honestly I wouldn't even really mind that much multiplayer in Cyberpunk. 

 

What I heavily dislike is when an established franchise like Mass Effect and Dragon Age are loved and played for their single player experience, only for a multiplayer to be later shoved in. It doesn't help that Inquisition's multiplayer was pretty terrible.

 

If Bioware had decided to make a new franchise specifically for multiplayer purposes, then I wouldn't mind so much (though I personally wouldn't be very interested).

[Xetykins]

Honestly I wouldn't even really mind that much multiplayer in Cyberpunk.

What I heavily dislike is when a established franchise like Mass Effect and Dragon Age are loved and played for their single player experience, only for a multiplayer to be later shoved in. It doesn't help that Inquisition's multiplayer was pretty terrible.

If Bioware had decided to make a new franchise specifically for multiplayer purposes, then I wouldn't mind so much (though I personally wouldn't be very interested).

Sadly, it's going that way. I mean apparently DAI was only multiplayer at first. Then also look at SW:BF

Now I fear for Andromeda

[Elhanan]

How old are you again?

They condemn it because they dislike it. A lot of people disliked MP in DAI, yet still liked the game. We have no idea if MP will be in said future project, so there is nothing to prepare for. There is no confirmation, so you should save your pat on the back until there is one.

I am not a fan of MP as I am so poor at it overall; hence my limited experience with it. But when a feature is implemented that may be beneficial and enjoyable to others, and it is separated from the single Player experience, it is accepted; even welcomed for widening the popularity of the title.

And those MP job offers at CDPR were marked as being posted earlier this month. While not proof, it is very convincing evidence.

[Elhanan]

I can only speak for myself, but I'm really grateful that you posted this. It would have completely blindsided me otherwise, but thankfully I now have time to prepare.

Now, having delivered your fateful missive, perhaps you should return to your future and reevaluate all the ways you get your jollies. Antagonizing people for its own sake is concerning.

As opposed to the sunshine and rainbows sent my way, hoisting petards can be rather satisfying....

[Xetykins]

As opposed to the sunshine and rainbows sent my way, hoisting petards can be rather satisfying....

You kinda brought it on yourself Elhanan. Usually, people say their piece on a topic that don't interest them and move on. That's what I do on the Inquisition boards. I've only frequented here and Origins because that's where I feel more at home, even if Origins is a little quiet atm.

For example, I won't have anything to say about Descent and Trespasser because I did not buy them. So I stay away from those threads, otherwise I'll just be talking out of my arse . Even though I've seen videos of them, there is nothing like experiencing the whole thing first hand and see the bigger picture. You do not see me littering DAI threads with my disappointment.

Do you get me at all?

[Elhanan]

You kinda brought it on yourself Elhanan. Usually, people say their piece on a topic that don't interest them and move on. That's what I do on the Inquisition boards. I've only frequented here and Origins because that's where I feel more at home, even if Origins is a little quiet atm.

For example, I won't have anything to say about Descent and Trespasser because I did not buy them. So I stay away from those threads, otherwise I'll just be talking out of my arse . Even though I've seen videos of them, there is nothing like experiencing the whole thing first hand and see the bigger picture. You do not see me littering DAI threads with my disappointment.

Do you get me at all?

And as I have mentioned before, as long as this topic includes DAI, no plans to leave. There are far too many erroneous posts about the game (and about myself, but I digress), and pleased to try and place a bit of balance to the overall perspective.

However, if someone sees me posting false information about TW3, pls note it for me to review. While I have criticized the lack of Pause, higher amts of ESRB content, and the Fishbowl effect of searching, these all seem to be spot on as to content included in that game. Not going to leave because of the truth either.

Not lingering because of disappointment; simply utilizing the other part of the topic to have my say.

P.S. You should say why you are not purchasing those DLC in a constructive manner. While I enjoy them both, opinions as to what stopped a purchase are as valid, given that they are informed opinions. And as much as you like storied content, Trespasser appears to be something you would enjoy a great deal.