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[Eelectrica]

I am not sure what all it involved, but I saw it on a friend's computer not ling after launch and it was completely breathtaking. Certainly better than DAI and a few other releases at the time.

I actually think they've enhanced the graphics in a few places since the game came out. Still looks damn good to me on Ultra settings and plays very smoothly.

 

Something kind of cool about seeing that big old Oak tree way down south in Velen from a a top of a mountain north of Novigrad.... At least I think it was the same tree... Either way it's pretty impressive given it's their own in house engine, not one that's been given to them by Uncle EA, or licensed from another company. I actually wonder if other game devs won't license the Red engine at some point, potentially providing more revenue for CDPR.

 

Whilst there were a few people up in arms, the vast majority of PC gamers aren't running SLI 980Ti's or something so even had they got the Uber graphics working without cooking peoples video cards, most people would have turned them down anyway.

[KBomb]

Better is subjective; prefer DAI myself.

Technically it isn't subjective. Preference isn't fact.

[straykat]

Fair enough point on the graphics.

 

Still different issue though. The DAI complaint is story related. People expected more army and choice management and just simply playing something that had more political weight like an Inquisition. Dozens of fantasy settings use the "Inquisition" trope, but this one barely went into politics and leading armies. It was a high fantasy story instead, with chosen ones and magic One Rings/marks/afflictions, etc., etc. And considering all the buildup in DA2 and Asunder, there's a starker contrast to what people expected and what they got, compared to changes in graphics settings.

 

Or so I'm assuming this is the real heart of the issue. And all from neglecting Keep gameplay

[slimgrin]

If it makes anyone feel any better, there isn't game in existence which looks as good as their pipe dream vertical slice of TW3. 

[FKA_Servo]

I actually think they've enhanced the graphics in a few places since the game came out. Still looks damn good to me on Ultra settings and plays very smoothly.

 

Something kind of cool about seeing that big old Oak tray way down south in Velen from a a top of a mountain north of Novigrad.... At least I think it was the same tree... Either way it's pretty impressive given it's their own in house engine, not one that's been given to them by Uncle EA, or licensed from another company. I actually wonder if other game devs won't license the Red engine at some point, potentially providing more revenue for CDPR.

 

Whilst there were a few people up in arms, the vast majority of PC gamers aren't running SLI 980Ti's or something so even had they got the Uber graphics working without cooking peoples video cards, most people would have turned them down anyway.

 

With a 770, my game runs a few notches above the PS4 visually speaking with much smoother performance. But I definitely lost some FPS with the 1.10 patch - whether that's a snafu under the hood or they turned stuff up a little bit, I don't know. I'm probably overdue to play around with the settings some more.

 

I do know that that whole "controversy" was completely hilarious and overblown, though.

[KBomb]

If it makes anyone feel any better, there isn't game in existence which looks as good as their pipe dream vertical slice of TW3.

Clever.

[FKA_Servo]

Technically it isn't subjective. Preference isn't fact.

 

I'm happy to lay this down to preference - DAI is still a beautiful game (and I'm still willing to chalk many of its shortcomings to cross gen development, in spite of which it still acquits itself very nicely).

 

I have to say, the "weather" in the DAI zones that have "weather" looks a bit better than TW's to my eye. A lot of the time in TW3 it's too much and too thick, to the point where I need to meditate over and over again till it clears the hell up and I can see again. Also, the lightning in TW3 looks hilariously bad, so bad that I don't know how it got past them.

 

TW3's weather is still staggeringly beautiful for the most part though, and all the more impressive because it's dynamically generated, unlike DAI's, which, as pretty and atmospheric as it is, is static and baked into the zone's aesthetic. TW3 could also do with a whole lot more environmental diversity - and some of DAI's zones are still drop dead gorgeous, while we basically have two themes (Skellige and Velen) with slight variations therein, and of course Kaer Morhen which is one of the loveliest goddamn things I've ever seen in any game (so of course it's the smallest).

 

Also, it's too windy. Like, "full size trees are bending, how am I still on my feet" windy. Why.

[Eelectrica]

Fair enough point on the graphics.

 

Still different issue though. The DAI complaint is story related. People expected more army and choice management and just simply playing something that had more political weight like an Inquisition. Dozens of fantasy settings use the "Inquisition" trope, but this one barely went into politics and leading armies. It was a high fantasy story instead, with chosen ones and magic One Rings/marks/afflictions, etc., etc. And considering all the buildup in DA2 and Asunder, there's a starker contrast to what people expected and what they got, compared to changes in graphics settings.

 

Or so I'm assuming this is the real heart of the issue. And all from neglecting Keep gameplay

Pretty much. I mean whilst I'll take nice graphics if they're on offer and have built my system to handle it, they're not the be all and end all. Gameplay, and story for me is king with options to role play my character as much as possible.

 

One of my favorite games of last year was Shadowrun Dragonfall, it didn't have all the bells and whistles of a 'AAA' game, but the story was good, as was the gameplay, with plenty of options to Role play my character.

[DragonKingReborn]

 

Also, it's too windy. Like, "full size trees are bending, how am I still on my feet windy." Why.

 

Liked for this portion of the post.

[Eelectrica]

I'm happy to lay this down to preference - DAI is still a beautiful game (and I'm still willing to chalk many of its shortcomings to cross gen development, in spite of which it still acquits itself very nicely).

 

I have to say, the "weather" in the DAI zones that have "weather" looks a bit better than TW's to my eye. A lot of the time in TW3 it's too much and too thick, to the point where I need to meditate over and over again till it clears the hell up and I can see again. Also, the lightning in TW3 looks hilariously bad, so bad that I don't know how it got past them.

 

TW3's weather is still staggeringly beautiful for the most part though, and all the more impressive because it's dynamically generated, unlike DAI's, which, as pretty and atmospheric as it is, is static and baked into the zone's aesthetic. TW3 could also do with a whole lot more environmental diversity - and some of DAI's zones are still drop dead gorgeous, while we basically have two themes (Skellige and Velen) with slight variations therein, and of course Kaer Morhen which is one of the loveliest goddamn things I've ever seen in any game (so of course it's the smallest).

 

Also, it's too windy. Like, "full size trees are bending, how am I still on my feet windy." Why.

Yeah, I'd go along with that. Some of DA's zones are very atmospheric. The FB engine does produce some spectacular imagery, no denying that.

 

Honestly, I'd just about call the visuals even, some things Witcher does better, other things, DA.

[KBomb]

I'm happy to lay this down to preference - DAI is still a beautiful game (and I'm still willing to chalk many of its shortcomings to cross gen development, in spite of which it still acquits itself very nicely).

I have to say, the "weather" in the DAI zones that have "weather" looks a bit better than TW's to my eye. A lot of the time in TW3 it's too much and too thick, to the point where I need to meditate over and over again till it clears the hell up and I can see again. Also, the lightning in TW3 looks hilariously bad, so bad that I don't know how it got past them.

TW3's weather is still staggeringly beautiful for the most part though, and all the more impressive because it's dynamically generated, unlike DAI's, which, as pretty and atmospheric as it is, is static and baked into the zone's aesthetic. TW3 could also do with a whole lot more environmental diversity - and some of DAI's zones are still drop dead gorgeous, while we basically have two themes (Skellige and Velen) with slight variations therein, and of course Kaer Morhen which is one of the loveliest goddamn things I've ever seen in any game (so of course it's the smallest).

Also, it's too windy. Like, "full size trees are bending, how am I still on my feet" windy. Why.

Good god, it is too windy, isn't it? I will agree to that.

I tend to disagree about the rest. The water , storms and cloudy mountains are alone enough to blow anything in DAI out of the boat--however; that is my opinion.

I also agree that DAI was a beautiful game, without question. It just doesn't have the scope and scale TW3 does.

[FKA_Servo]

Yeah, I'd go along with that. Some of DA's zones are very atmospheric. The FB engine does produce some spectacular imagery, no denying that.

 

Honestly, I'd just about call the visuals even, some things Witcher does better, other things, DA.

 

On the other hand, it's tough to deny TW3's execution of a dynamic open world. A painstakingly, extensively, and perfectly modded Skyrim might still give it a run for its money, but such a Skyrim likely exists only in our most desperate fantasies.

 

It is a crying shame that they're not gonna give us a real creation kit for TW3. I guess there's a chance that it's something they could unveil at the 11th hour, but I doubt it at this point.

[Elhanan]

Technically it isn't subjective. Preference isn't fact.

Both opinions as stated are seemingly equal.

[DragonKingReborn]

I've completed 3 playthroughs of DA:I (including Trespasser, but not Jaws or Descent) and have been in Velen for a couple of hours in my second attempt at a second playthrough of TW3.

 

Overall - I prefer DA:I.  I like the 'world' - read :setting - more and the companions add something TW can't.  I still can't bring myself to like Geralt, although he's much, much better than in TW2, whereas I've liked all my Inquisitors, even my Maker-bothering human male (who irritated the hell out of me initially).

 

The topic of "be more like the Witcher 3" though, has merit in some places.  The detail level in the semi-open world regions is fantastic as is the level of ambient life.  There does seem - for me at least - to be a genuine reason to go looking past that hill 'over there', which i didn't find to be true with DA:I.

 

The sheer volume of 'in character' things to do is mind boggling.  The 'busy work' Inquisition was accused of (in some cases fairly) would have fit well with the PC being a 'blade/staff for hire' like Geralt.  The little, out of the way 'complete-them-before-you-knew-about-them' quests like monster dens or finding schematics worked well, because that was exactly what one might expect Geralt to do.  It is not unreasonable to expect the Herald of Andraste to do these sorts of things, either.  It is unreasonable - in my opinion - to expect the Inquisitor to do them.

 

'Adult' content, since I've seen it come up a couple of times...the only time I actually felt like they (TW3) were doing something to titillate was when the old forest crones (can't remember their proper names) suddenly turned themselves into beautiful young naked women drinking blood.  I also felt a little uncomfortable during the 'Find Junior' quest, but that content - referring to the hot tub scene - was in keeping with the characters personality, so....I was fine with it.

 

The issue with being more like TW3 is that would actually make no sense.  Take a few elements that were lacking in Inquisition, sure.  But, by and large, I would rather they refined what they had with Inquisition and made any future title more like what did work about Inquisition.  More quest design like "In Your Heart Shall Burn".

 

Oh, and change the search function (or remove it).  Completely.  Interact-able items should be highlighted or not.

[FKA_Servo]

TW1 and TW2 don't really do much to recommend Geralt as a character, although I think there is a steady and noticeable march towards likability. He didn't click with me until TW3, but I've warmed to him more than I ever thought I would in TW3. His interactions with Ciri play no small part in that. Overall though, I'd kill to play a game like this with a robust CC.

 

Gotta say, I thought the scene in Get Junior was cheap and exploitive, but that's just me. Otherwise... it's not a game for children, and they use that M rating for more than just breasts and slo mo decapitations, which I appreciate. But then, so does Bioware.

 

Otherwise, I still think it's largely like comparing Age of Empires to Tetris - the only thing the games really have in common is that they fall under the same vaguely defined "RPG" genre umbrella.

[Eelectrica]

On the other hand, it's tough to deny TW3's execution of a dynamic open world. A painstakingly, extensively, and perfectly modded Skyrim might still give it a run for its money, but such a Skyrim likely exists only in our most desperate fantasies.

 

It is a crying shame that they're not gonna give us a real creation kit for TW3. I guess there's a chance that it's something they could unveil at the 11th hour, but I doubt it at this point.

Yeah before release that was one of my hopes, for a really good Red Kit 2 - not that I'd be doing anything with it, I don't have the talent for it, but others do obviously which can be enjoyed. I guess they might do something after the B&W expansion comes out.

 

I did read somewhere that they were going to try to get mods available for Console, so perhaps it's not a completely blind hope that a real RK2 comes out, but still wouldn't bet the house on it either.

[Eelectrica]

Good god, it is too windy, isn't it? I will agree to that.

 

There's a Chuck Norris joke in there somewhere...

When the wind blows Geralt blows it blows it back... Yeah I'll go back to the drawing board on that one. LOL

[FKA_Servo]

For real though... oof...

 

Spoiler

 

I've gotta hand it to them all the same.

[FKA_Servo]

Ok, this quest is pretty funny.

[Xetykins]

For real though... oof...
 

Spoiler

 
I've gotta hand it to them all the same.

Woot u done to Getalt's hair is heresy, Tommy!

[Fandango]

Better is subjective; prefer DAI myself.

 

 

Perhaps you should experience both games for yourself before offering an opinion Elhanan? 

[Drantwo]

I was doing the DLC quest "Where the cat and wolf play". Found a lovely Easter egg there~

 

Spoiler

Infamous Schrödinger

 

 

 

Another good one in the Hearts of Stone.

 

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For the harry Potter fans!

 

[Elhanan]

Perhaps you should experience both games for yourself before offering an opinion Elhanan?

Nah; "saw it on a friend's computer" seems to be good enough for this one....

[Fandango]

Nah; "saw it on a friend's computer" seems to be good enough for this one....

 

Not really Elhanan. Watching a pal play the first 15 hours of Inquisition - for example - wouldn't make me an authority on how great that particular game looks, right? Such is the case with you and TW3 i'm afraid. 

[KBomb]

Nah; "saw it on a friend's computer" seems to be good enough for this one....

I suppose this is to be a little dig at me. However, unlike you, I played both games. Nice attempt, though. Trying is what matters!