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[Lawrence0294]

It would seem that the Players reviewing those versions are of a different opinion on Amazon.

or on Metacritic...with a 5.0

 

http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition

 

and don't forget this thread:

 

http://forum.bioware...e-issues/page-1

[Elhanan]

or on Metacritic...with a 5.0
 
http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition
 
and don't forget this thread:
 
http://forum.bioware...e-issues/page-1

Metacritic is an erroneous site which allows non-Players to score and review, at least for games. But I believe the Professional score is higher, though also in error.

And one does not have to go beyond this thread to see how bias can mislead feedback.

[Dread-Reaper]

Even Mr. Laidlaw said that it was because of the hardware limitations of these consoles that many features had to be cut, such as what we saw in that PAX demo.

Really? That seems rather dumb or they were being lazy.

[Lawrence0294]

Metacritic is an erroneous site which allows non-Players to score and review, at least for games. But I believe the Professional score is higher, though also in error.

And one does not have to go beyond this thread to see how bias can mislead feedback.

And I would hardly call Amazon a great source.

 

And I'm not sure if you've noticed but there is no professional score in Metacritic, or IGN, or Gamespot, or GameInformer etc.

 

And I find it very unfair of you to dismiss a 100 pages thread with players feedback clearly describing critical problems of these versions because of your dislike of this thread.

[FKA_Servo]

Some of us have managed to go all day without indulging him.

Just saying.

[Drantwo]

And I would hardly call Amazon a great source.

 

And I'm not sure if you've noticed but there is no professional score in Metacritic, or IGN, or Gamespot, or GameInformer etc.

 

And I find it very unfair of you to dismiss a 100 pages thread with players feedback clearly describing critical problems of these versions because of your dislike of this thread.

Everyone here has tried to reason but the reality is that you cannot have a proper debate/argument/discussion with a fanboy. Just drop it. You'll feel much better if you ignore him. 

[Elhanan]

And I would hardly call Amazon a great source.
 
And I'm not sure if you've noticed but there is no professional score in Metacritic, or IGN, or Gamespot, or GameInformer etc.
 
And I find it very unfair of you to dismiss a 100 pages thread with players feedback clearly describing critical problems of these versions because of your dislike of this thread.

At the very least on Amazon, one can restrict the reviews to authentic owners of the games. And Metacritic has metascores which appear to be based on Professional reviews. Still invalid due to flawed algorithms, but it has DAI at 8.5; a tad higher than the Anyone Can Vote totals.

I dismiss that thread; others can use it if they wish. And it not solely based because this thread, but the many like it. That, and I play on a PC. Consumer choice is a good thing.

[Elhanan]

Everyone here has tried to reason but the reality is that you cannot have a proper debate/argument/discussion with a fanboy. Just drop it. You'll feel much better if you ignore him.

Sound advice; those obsessed with TW3 really do seem to get carried away....

[Lawrence0294]

At the very least on Amazon, one can restrict the reviews to authentic owners of the games. And Metacritic has metascores which appear to be based on Professional reviews. Still invalid due to flawed algorithms, but it has DAI at 8.5; a tad higher than the Anyone Can Vote totals.

I dismiss that thread; others can use it if they wish. And it not solely based because this thread, but the many like it. That, and I play on a PC. Consumer choice is a good thing.

You are right, but this system was implemented June 2015, when Inquisition released November 2014 so those reviews don't have more value than Metacritic's. And I'm not sure what you have been looking at but there are no Metascores for the PS3 and Xbox 360, only the user reviews:

http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition

http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition

Consumer choice is excellent but so is consumer awareness and the thread shows a great number of legitimate complaints and problems. If you wish to ignore them, well I can't force you to look at evidence.

 

Anyway, I don't wish to further derail this as it's quite off-topic and I apologize.

[Elhanan]

You are right, but this system was implemented June 2015, when Inquisition released November 2014 so those reviews don't have more value than Metacritic's. And I'm not sure what you have been looking at but there are no Metascores for the PS3 and Xbox 360, only the user reviews:
http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition

http://www.metacriti...age-inquisition

Consumer choice is excellent but so is consumer awareness and the thread shows a great number of legitimate complaints and problems. If you wish to ignore them, well I can't force you to look at evidence.
 
Anyway, I don't wish to further derail this as it's quite off-topic and I apologize.

NP; good to know about those Metascores.

As for Player scores, the only one I know of is for TW3, as one of the DAI on PC critics from another thread was not fond of TW3 at launch (ie; hard coded control keys), and he mentioned this in that thread. CDPR did patch the problem quickly, but I do not know if those low scores were adjusted. However, some like it at Amazon did receive a correction.

That said, Metacritic is flawed on so many levels that another source is recommended; Gamerankings perhaps.

[panzerwzh]

Like this one for example. Yes, it's pre-alpha live demo but they talk specifically about game mechanics like "reactivity" and "consequence". They are obviously trying to sell the game that way, and I was sold. Sigh...https://www.youtube....h?v=AAAEUFjq2K4
CDPR on the other hand, I did not see flapping their gums about the graphics. It was people's assumption that it was going to be finished product. But people waves the downgrade issue around like the sword of damned truth.

Oh the pain, the shame and the ugly, alpha version DAI would be so much better!

[Wolven_Soul]

Well, I think you can... but that being said, I don't think that a customizable character precludes a pre-defined character, or a rich and detailed background. It didn't for Hawke or Shepard.

 

I pretend the books don't exist, so the scenario of the Witcher is, for me, contained within the three games I've completed. If we take that to be the case, then the extent of Geralt's backstory (not the particulars necessarily, just the detail upon which it is elaborated) that we receive in the games, particularly in light of the fact that he's an amnesiac for the first 1.5 games, would work just fine with a custom protagonist while still supplying a a strong character history. Honestly, with a few changes (albeit one or two large ones) it could straight up work with Geralt's backstory. Alter (or don't) a few of his past relationships, establish that women can, in fact, be witchers (this is essentially established by one of the endings of TW3, although I see no indication that they can't, other than the formulae for the correct decoctions being lost), and... that's kind of it.

 

Well, you make a good point with Shephard, though not so much with Hawke.  His background wasn't that elaborate.  Shephard's history was pretty good, and you get to develop that history throughout the series.  I guess I can agree with you that in some cases a custom character can give as good a story as a pre-defined one, but it helps when you have a trilogy where you can create a bunch of that backstory yourself.

[Wolven_Soul]

Apples and aardvarks. DA4 should continue to be a real-time with pause party RPG, and the Witcher, should they make any more games in the series, should continue to be an action RPG, leaning exclusively towards the action end of the spectrum. Both can coexist harmoniously.

 

I know this is a bit off topic but along the lines of action RPG, has anyone seen the new footage from Horizon: Zero Dawn?  Holy crap that looked incredible.

[KBomb]

I swear, the ruins and outlands around Kilkerrin Ruins are just gorgeous. Even though a lot of terrain uses the same textures, CDPR outdid themselves on making every area seem unique and unto itself.

[FKA_Servo]

Well, you make a good point with Shephard, though not so much with Hawke. His background wasn't that elaborate. Shephard's history was pretty good, and you get to develop that history throughout the series. I guess I can agree with you that in some cases a custom character can give as good a story as a pre-defined one, but it helps when you have a trilogy where you can create a bunch of that backstory yourself.

S/he doesn't have an elaborate backstory, no, but s/he's not a blank slate mysterious stranger either. Hawke has very strongly defined place in the world, strongly established ties of family and friendship, and a very distinctive personality. I'm certain that's one of the reasons that Hawke and DA2 are so polarizing among the fanbase. As a PC, Hawke has one of the strongest personalities of any of their games.

 

As for history - it obviously helps if you can play through it (I don't know if Mass Effect is a good example since most of it is so irrelevant - not that you were necessarily zeroing in on that, but trilogy, so obviously I'm gonna go there), but I think as long as there are compelling events and relationships that are alluded to, that can work.

 

Obviously, Geralt's past events and relationships are mostly from the books. But those relationships and anecdotes are there - sparsely, perhaps, but that might even be better - in the game, and they build up a compelling history and persona whether you were there to witness them or not. Another example that comes to mind - we don't know much about Han Solo's history prior to meeting Luke and Ben in Chalman's cantina, but the little snippets of his past relationships and his life as a smuggler that we do see come together to form a dashing, attractive, and interesting character. As long as that sense of history is there, that's all that's important. And there's really nothing preventing that from being present with a custom protagonist at all.

[FKA_Servo]

I know this is a bit off topic but along the lines of action RPG, has anyone seen the new footage from Horizon: Zero Dawn?  Holy crap that looked incredible.

 

Hot damn, I think they made this game for me. I hadn't even heard of it before today.

 

I'm glad we're probably snatching a PS4 this winter.

[AmberDragon]

I know this is a bit off topic but along the lines of action RPG, has anyone seen the new footage from Horizon: Zero Dawn?  Holy crap that looked incredible.

It does look good, seriously considering giving it a try.

[FKA_Servo]

Spoiler

Ok, Shani is one of the most irritating ninjamances I've ever encountered. No say in going for the kiss? Is there any option to just bro it out with her without getting stuck feeling like I'm letting her down hard at the end? It's not my fault that idiot kept throwing myself at her.

[KBomb]

Spoiler

Ok, Shani is one of the most irritating ninjamances I've ever encountered. No say in going for the kiss? Is there any option to just bro it out with her without getting stuck feeling like I'm letting her down hard at the end? It's not my fault that idiot kept throwing myself at her.

Spoiler

Yes, this a million times! I kept wondering why it felt like Geralt was flirting with her and then popped that rape-face kiss. I kept waiting for Geralt to mention Triss. Never happened.

I just figured I was doing something wrong.

[FKA_Servo]

I've played through the "midnight clear" quest 5 times tonight, trying different strategies and responses. Nothing works. What the hell.

 

I know some people might disagree, but Geralt doesn't play like that. He hasn't since the start.

[panzerwzh]

Spoiler

Yes, this a million times! I kept wondering why it felt like Geralt was flirting with her and then popped that rape-face kiss. I kept waiting for Geralt to mention Triss. Never happened.

I just figured I was doing something wrong.

Sorry Shani>>Triss it is known. (In the books as well)

[panzerwzh]

Traitor should die in shame, alone!!

[FKA_Servo]

Sorry Shani>>Triss it is known. (In the books as well)

I've never read the books. Frankly, l don't think they're real.

I like Shani very much, but the Geralt I know has been exclusive with Triss since the first game. I'm happy to turn turn her down, but the problem is that once I do, the whole scene ends up making no sense. It's an astonishingly badly scripted encounter, and I'm surprised it made the cut.

Seriously, an involuntary kiss like that is ridiculous. Hopefully they'll adjust that in the future. They do seem to listen.

[KBomb]

I've never read the books. Frankly, l don't think they're real.

I like Shani very much, but the Geralt I know has been exclusive with Triss since the first game. I'm happy to turn turn her down, but the problem is that once I do, the whole scene ends up making no sense. It's an astonishingly badly scripted encounter, and I'm surprised it made the cut.

Seriously, an involuntary kiss like that is ridiculous. Hopefully they'll adjust that in the future. They do seem to listen.

A friend told me she moaned the entire kiss. That just makes it worse, imo!

Also, I don't care what the books say either. Geralt in the game is my character and Triss > everyone in his eyes. Yennifer was his past, Triss is his future and Shani was never anything but a friend. That's how it's done in Keke's world and that is the only one that matters.

[Fandango]

I dismiss that thread; others can use it if they wish. And it not solely based because this thread, but the many like it. That, and I play on a PC. Consumer choice is a good thing.

 

So you dismiss the feedback of forum members who have actually played Inquisition on last gen consoles because you played it on PC and have a weird mental block when it comes to the Witcher?

 

Thats a very special kind of logic there Elhnanan...even for you.