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#12526
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At level 4 should i stay in white orchard . It seems like the crossroads is level 7+

Also i know this thread is pro witcher but since i now play dai, skyrim and witcher i still feel that A modded skyrim is still superior in some ways

Caves, dungeons and forts-far superior to dai and witcher. Dai ranks second

Open world starting area a d things to do-at this point skyrim is an old game but within the starting area of whiterun there area lot more interesting places to visit than hinterlands or white orchard

#12527
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If you're level 4 in White Orchard, completed all sidequests, gathered the Viper swords, and investigated all ?s, then you should move on to Velen since there's nothing left.



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Not sure about the 1.7, didn't you enjoy Witcher 2 ?

What I think is the most noticeable is how between each game they have incredibly improved quality. Especially when you go from W1 to W2, it's a bigger shock than going from Mass Effect 1 to 2 (and it helps Mass Effect 1 was an actual amazing game).


I liked TW2 a lot. It is a thousand times more playable than the first one, and I think that fact inflated my estimation of it a bit since I played it right after I played the first one. A little distance and my experience with TW3 pretty sort of colors my current perception of it. The story is terrific, but there are a dozen ways in which the gameplay is still annoying, and amnesiac Geralt is still mostly boring. He doesn't really graduate to interesting, likable, or funny until the third one (although at that point, he is all those things, in spades). The great cast (stronger overall than TW2) helps there considerably.

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Your hate for the game is well known in this thread but stop pretending it's anything more than you personal opinion that the game is bad. Judging by the reviews on many different sites (gaming sites, steam, gog etc.) the vast majority of the people who played it don't share your view.


Which is mystifying to me, since I assume most of these players have eyes, ears, and hands. It is what it is. God knows I love all sorts of terrible things in spite of themselves.

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This. Expecting an objective review from the mainstream western game journo clique vs MC is laughable, when taking into account their anti consumer stance, and their refusal to judge a title beyond their political beliefs unless there's money involved.

 

http://i.imgur.com/YWVXob9.png

 

How a Christian game review site managed to publish an objective review that highlights two separate scores, one based on the author's moral beliefs and the other being neutral is beyond me.

 

https://www.christce...3-wild-hunt-ps4

 I like the fact that CDPR was not afraid to give a review copy to a hardcore christian site. Looking at their game and who's reviewing, they could easily have said they ran out of codes as a form of potential damage control. The really have a lot of confidence on their game. 

 

That morality rating though :P


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I support a game and studio I like just fine by buying the game once it is released and I decide whether or not I want to play it.  I support gamers in general in my decision to not pre-order because pre-ordering is in the end, bad for the industry.  There are many, many examples of why this is so.

 

It is of course entirely up to you but pre-ordering to me is not inherently bad/evil. It is not any worse than; season passes, day 1 DLC, on disk DLC, Pre Order specific Bonus DLC, platform exclusive DLC, time exclusive DLCs, micro-transactions (the worst) etc. All the above is bad for the industry if abused.

 

At the end of the day, most will buy if they really like a product regardless of how unfair the said deal is and how shady the company is and they tell themselves - aww tis business. In fact, most are only measuring the worth of the product and their personal preference and supporting the product that they like. Nothing more. Unless one does not pay for any of the above "bad practices" no matter how much they like the product, one is merely supporting their wallet and there is nothing wrong about that - they are simply not "supporting gamers" ingeneral. For example: I didnt and wont buy the final DAI DLC because I feel that they unfairly dropped last gen although I wish to personally end my Inquisitor's journey... nope, no sale will ever make me buy it, not even if it is only 1 dollar.

 

To me, I boycott companies and studios that have shown themselves to be not trust worthy. No matter how much I like their product or how good their product maybe, I simply boycott it - that is how I support fellow gamers. Of course, at the end of the day, it is because I trust CDPR and they can enjoy that trust until the day they betray it. 


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#12531
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This. Expecting an objective review from the mainstream western game journo clique vs MC is laughable, when taking into account their anti consumer stance, and their refusal to judge a title beyond their political beliefs unless there's money involved.

 

http://i.imgur.com/YWVXob9.png

 

How a Christian game review site managed to publish an objective review that highlights two separate scores, one based on the author's moral beliefs and the other being neutral is beyond me.

 

https://www.christce...3-wild-hunt-ps4

 

Oh I like that approach. Personal morality should have very little to do with reviewing a product. Well, maybe it should have more meaning, but the fact remains that it is highly subjective. The Polygon review of TW3 being oppressively misogynistic comes to mind. And the person of color approach of the same review? Good Lord. I always imagine the reviewer running around in the game in panic trying to find even a single colored person. So much for cultural tolerance. And what was the review that criticized the game for allowing you to sympatize and be kind and understanding to the Bloody Baron even though he beat up his wife? Might be better that I don't remember.

 

Edit. Polygon. Of course it had to be Polygon.


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#12532
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Btw currently playing Fallout 4 I realized that the questdesign is even worse than the questdesign in Dragon Age.

90% of the quests are "go there and clean this place of Raiders, Mutants, Ghouls". Most of the time without any (interesting) backstory.

It's still less tedious because the gameplay is more fun.

This is my main issue with it, especially if you do the minutemen quests.  I'm having more fun by just killing the settlers Preston sends me to talk to. Ends the quest right then and there.  But it's totally immersion breaking for Preston to then tell me that I'm the best man to lead his group.  Seriously? A nut job who just finished slitting the throat of a person who asked you for help is the best guy to uphold the principles of your group? :huh:



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Skyrim had the radiant quests (go to this place and kill raiders, etc...) but at least with that game they weren't automatically thrown on to you, if I remember you actually had to talk to the people about it to receive them. In Fallout 4 you barely walk by Preston and he gives you yet another quest.



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This is my main issue with it, especially if you do the minutemen quests.  I'm having more fun by just killing the settlers Preston sends me to talk to. Ends the quest right then and there.  But it's totally immersion breaking for Preston to then tell me that I'm the best man to lead his group.  Seriously? A nut job who just finished slitting the throat of a person who asked you for help is the best guy to uphold the principles of your group? :huh:

To avoid Preston you actually have to say no to joining the Minutemen, god it sucks. They really need to patch that. 


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Oh I like that approach. Personal morality should have very little to do with reviewing a product. Well, maybe it should have more meaning, but the fact remains that it is highly subjective. The Polygon review of TW3 being oppressively misogynistic comes to mind. And the person of color approach of the same review? Good Lord. I always imagine the reviewer running around in the game in panic trying to find even a single colored person. So much for cultural tolerance. And what was the review that criticized the game for allowing you to sympatize and be kind and understanding to the Bloody Baron even though he beat up his wife? Might be better that I don't remember.

 

Edit. Polygon. Of course it had to be Polygon.

Only someone like Tauriq Moosa would do something like that. iirc he seriously believed he singlehandedly got CDPR to include the Ofieri in HoS.


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Oh I like that approach. Personal morality should have very little to do with reviewing a product. Well, maybe it should have more meaning, but the fact remains that it is highly subjective. The Polygon review of TW3 being oppressively misogynistic comes to mind. And the person of color approach of the same review? Good Lord. I always imagine the reviewer running around in the game in panic trying to find even a single colored person. So much for cultural tolerance. And what was the review that criticized the game for allowing you to sympatize and be kind and understanding to the Bloody Baron even though he beat up his wife? Might be better that I don't remember.

 

Edit. Polygon. Of course it had to be Polygon.

 

Nathan Grayson of Polygon condemned the whole Baron thing as well.

 

You know, the guy who writes articles like "Ubisoft Refused To Talk To Me About Women" and then wonders why Ubi are giving Kotaku a wide berth.



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Anyone else get some things that somewhat appear as you get closer to them (fences, small stones). Pc

#12538
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Increase your draw distance. Should be a setting in the video options.

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To avoid Preston you actually have to say no to joining the Minutemen, god it sucks. They really need to patch that. 

 

They just need to have him stop giving me quests when I dare walk within 10 feet of him. It's driving me freaking bananas.

 

And don't get me started how EVERY single companion has to make some crack EVERY time I craft. I'm getting to the point where I want to shoot them.



#12540
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They just need to have him stop giving me quests when I dare walk within 10 feet of him. It's driving me freaking bananas.

 

And don't get me started how EVERY single companion has to make some crack EVERY time I craft. I'm getting to the point where I want to shoot them.

There is actually a mod for Skyrim that made the companions talk more, like they now do in Fallout 4. I think that is where Bethesda got the idea, and that mod is highly endorsed and downloaded on Nexus. But when Bethesda implements it people hate it and wants it gone, funny. 



#12541
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There is actually a mod for Skyrim that made the companions talk more, like they now do in Fallout 4. I think that is where Bethesda got the idea, and that mod is highly endorsed and downloaded on Nexus. But when Bethesda implements it people hate it and wants it gone, funny. 

Being a mod made it optional. Only people who wanted it downloaded it. There is a difference.



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Nathan Grayson of Polygon condemned the whole Baron thing as well.

 

You know, the guy who writes articles like "Ubisoft Refused To Talk To Me About Women" and then wonders why Ubi are giving Kotaku a wide berth.

 

 

I stopped taking Polygon reviews seriously after their joke of a review on The last of Us. They even wrote this ridiculous article saying that the stealth tutorial in Shadow of Mordor where the protagonist sneaks up on his wife and surprises her with a kiss equates to teaching men to sneak up and murder their wives.



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There is actually a mod for Skyrim that made the companions talk more, like they now do in Fallout 4. I think that is where Bethesda got the idea, and that mod is highly endorsed and downloaded on Nexus. But when Bethesda implements it people hate it and wants it gone, funny. 

 

There's a difference in companions talking more and someone whining about all the junk I'm carrying and "Omg what are you gonna do with that?" "I think it's junk but..." everytime I'm crafting.



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Only someone like Tauriq Moosa would do something like that. iirc he seriously believed he singlehandedly got CDPR to include the Ofieri in HoS.

 

 

It's a fairly remarkable coincidence, so much so I felt like asking one of the devs if the article did indeed influence them, but the timing of it seems impossible. The story for HOS would have been done or near so by the time that article was written. If you look at this however: http://thewitcher.com/witcher3/. Click on Inhabitants. It shows how conscious the PR team is aware of all this stuff, and that's what worries me. Five years ago they would've ignored this feedback. The reality is they did tone down the nudity a bit in TW3. I've little doubt the 'if the women show full frontal then so should Geralt' argument that always popped up finally convinced them not to do it at all. The sauna scene with Ciri in particular was kinda silly. No one wears clothes in a steam bath, especially adult women. As to Gawker, it's remarkable how much the guys at Kotaku ( not Polygon) like the game and continue to talk about it. But I don't want to see CDPR responding to feedback from them.   


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#12545
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They just need to have him stop giving me quests when I dare walk within 10 feet of him. It's driving me freaking bananas.
 
And don't get me started how EVERY single companion has to make some crack EVERY time I craft. I'm getting to the point where I want to shoot them.


There is a mod in Skyrim for No NPC Greetings: Reduced Distance that lessened the interaction of those close by the intended speaker. Something like that should appear soon, or be able to be replicated if on the same engine.
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#12546
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There is actually a mod for Skyrim that made the companions talk more, like they now do in Fallout 4. I think that is where Bethesda got the idea, and that mod is highly endorsed and downloaded on Nexus. But when Bethesda implements it people hate it and wants it gone, funny.


Only one use for that mod. It also increases the variety of the banter so there is a lesser chance of repeated lines, but one can reduce the actual number of times that such lines are made (eg; lowered to 10%). Removing annoyance from the game comes in varied forms.

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At level 4 should i stay in white orchard . It seems like the crossroads is level 7+

Also i know this thread is pro witcher but since i now play dai, skyrim and witcher i still feel that A modded skyrim is still superior in some ways

Caves, dungeons and forts-far superior to dai and witcher. Dai ranks second

Open world starting area a d things to do-at this point skyrim is an old game but within the starting area of whiterun there area lot more interesting places to visit than hinterlands or white orchard

I haven't played Skyrim so can't comment on that, but why do you feel DAI does caves and dungeons better than TW3? I would rate them as the same. TW3 doesn't really have any interesting dungeons, but what it has is more extensive than the caves of DAI (excluding The Descent, obviously). I was disappointed when DAI advertised many caves and dungeons off the beaten path, and that being a reward for exploring outside of the story thread. The caves tended to be two rooms with a veilfire rune schematic. The only memorable dungeons were the Still Ruins and the haunted Chateau. Everything else was fairly blah, although the results of finishing them could be interesting (the Red Crossing scroll, the replica of the Sulevein blade).

 

 I like the fact that CDPR was not afraid to give a review copy to a hardcore christian site. Looking at their game and who's reviewing, they could easily have said they ran out of codes as a form of potential damage control. The really have a lot of confidence on their game. 

 

That morality rating though :P

I think it's great that a morality-based review site is able to rationally break out a game into its game elements and its morality elements. I am in no way religious, but I wish more religious people would treat issues in this manner, instead of having morality be the only element worthy of consideration.

 

It is of course entirely up to you but pre-ordering to me is not inherently bad/evil. It is not any worse than; season passes, day 1 DLC, on disk DLC, Pre Order specific Bonus DLC, platform exclusive DLC, time exclusive DLCs, micro-transactions (the worst) etc. All the above is bad for the industry if abused.

I would argue that all of those are bad. Full stop.


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#12548
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The sauna scene with Ciri in particular was kinda silly. No one wears clothes in a steam bath, especially adult women. 

This one does :) I'm not prude or even religious and don't mind people going commando around me, as long as it's not me. Cultural background and all that.

 

Anyway, only Ciri was wrapped in the sauna because of the bandage. The rest only got knickers on. I haven't played through W1 and 2 completely but I don't think I've ever seen complete frontal nudity. I know I haven't seen any in TW3



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Boobies! Sorry, couldn't help myself :(


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Boobies! Sorry, couldn't help myself :(

I mean including the whole of the lower half below ze bewbz :P


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