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[The Hierophant]

It's a fairly remarkable coincidence, so much so I felt like asking one of the devs if the article did indeed influence them, but the timing of it seems impossible. The story for HOS would have been done or near so by the time that article was written. If you look at this however: http://thewitcher.com/witcher3/. Click on Inhabitants. It shows how conscious the PR team is aware of all this stuff, and that's what worries me. Five years ago they would've ignored this feedback. The reality is they did tone down the nudity a bit in TW3. I've little doubt the 'if the women show full frontal then so should Geralt' argument that always popped up finally convinced them not to do it at all. The sauna scene with Ciri in particular was kinda silly. No one wears clothes in a steam bath, especially adult women. As to Gawker, it's remarkable how much the guys at Kotaku ( not Polygon) like the game and continue to talk about it. But I don't want to see CDPR responding to feedback from them.   

Now that worries me too. I can only pray that they don't go far like Bio when sanitizing their titles. About the nudity, at first i figured there was less of it due to the cost of extra models, because the copy pasted body models would have been even more noticeable the more they're shown. And then there's the ideologically schizophrenic Kotaku.

 

 I have a suspicion that even though Polygon drunk 2 liters of cool-aid, Kotaku only uses progressivism for extortion.

[Dread-Reaper]

I mean including the whole of the lower half below ze bewbz

In TW1 you meet a Dryad in the swamps of Vizimia who's completely nude.

 

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[slimgrin]

In TW1 you meet a Dryad in the swamps of Vizimia who's completely nude.

 

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Most sex scenes in TW2 show full frontal. They're done better as well. That part with Triss in the light tower...WTF was that? Lol. I still say if you don't want to do it right, just skip it. 

[Wolven_Soul]

There is actually a mod for Skyrim that made the companions talk more, like they now do in Fallout 4. I think that is where Bethesda got the idea, and that mod is highly endorsed and downloaded on Nexus. But when Bethesda implements it people hate it and wants it gone, funny. 

 

I don't mind it at all.  In fact, I am rather enjoying having chatty companions.  It's pretty cool having them say something when I arrive at a quest location, and in a Bethesda game no less.  

[panzerwzh]

Epic!

 

Due to the very existence of Polygon, I weep for humanity.

[Akrabra]

Epic!

 

Due to the very existence of Polygon, I weep for humanity.

You sure do weep alot, and like sweaty Youtubers! 

[Traele]

I am happiest with either extreme approach. Tell me that I am Geralt the Witcher and I play as Geralt the Witcher. Of course the world must react to Geralt accordingly. Tell me that I am a prisoner and was given my freedom because someone believe that I might be Nerevar reincarnated and nothing else - I will play as a character of my own design.

 

Medium is usually the worst... because medium means you are partially a character of your own design but also a character partially of someone else's design. Such an approach usually leads to contradicting experience.

 

Fallout 4: I dont care about Shuan... because Sparta!!! I think more females find the story good interesting, the conversations emotional and all that... but... I simply find the plot cheesy. The world as we know it has ended but not ma parental duties!! 

 

Game developers take note please... males... we care more about our car than digital babies and children.  

 

Hurm, the significant success of The Last of Us and Witcher 3 seems to indicate otherwise.  Now maybe we've reached the point of saturation for the Father-Hero story, but it seems it was very relevant to the marketshare in the last couple years. 

[KBomb]

This one does I'm not prude or even religious and don't mind people going commando around me, as long as it's not me. Cultural background and all that.

Anyway, only Ciri was wrapped in the sauna because of the bandage. The rest only got knickers on. I haven't played through W1 and 2 completely but I don't think I've ever seen complete frontal nudity. I know I haven't seen any in TW3

The few times I have been in a sauna, I wore "clothes". Once just underwear and the rest I was wrapped in a towel. I am definitely not a prude, but no way is my bare bottom going to rest where other sweaty buttcheeks rest. Ew.

[slimgrin]

The few times I have been in a sauna, I wore "clothes". Once just underwear and the rest I was wrapped in a towel. I am definitely not a prude, but no way is my bare bottom going to rest where other sweaty buttcheeks rest. Ew.

 

Fair enough. You and Xety like to dress up for the sauna. I doubt the Skellige women and Ciri would have such compunction, which was my point. 

[Eelectrica]

TW1 is a pretty great RPG with unique world setting and interesting story. I become a witcher fan since TW1.

Same with me. I don't get the hate for TW1. Not saying it's perfect, they made some rookie mistakes, but I find it perfectly playable, and enjoyed their choice and consequences throughout. Combat system was different, but I never had trouble picking the mechanics of it up.

It's interesting to see how quickly CDPR have evolved and grown grown from that.

What brought me to it was knowing it was made with NWN engine so being a fan of those games led me to Witcher. Haven't regretted a minute.

[Eelectrica]

 

Fo4 is Bethcrap, news at 11

also i never played W3, never will.

 

how people can stand this disgusting shovelware is beyond me. 

 

fortunately cRPGs are not dead

 

Fair enough, I enjoy a variety of games and game types. I've enjoyed my time with X-com, D:OS and Pillars, new Shadowrun series, also enjoyed the Witcher series and after a long hot day at work don't mind a bit of Borderlands either.

Also looking forward to the new Torment game and was a kick starter for that as well.

[ashwind]

Hurm, the significant success of The Last of Us and Witcher 3 seems to indicate otherwise. Now maybe we've reached the point of saturation for the Father-Hero story, but it seems it was very relevant to the marketshare in the last couple years.

Garelt care about Ciri the daughter, me Ciri the hot chick

If Ciri was a baby...

[KBomb]

Fair enough. You and Xety like to dress up for the sauna. I doubt the Skellige women and Ciri would have such compunction, which was my point.

Why is such a mundane thing have to be an issue? They wore underwear, it isn't completely inconceivable that they would. At least they didn't use the same body type with every single woman, that is certainly a step forward. The women of that village seemed pretty pious and it wouldn't seem far-fetched that they wore some type of modest covering. Especially since it does have some historical precedent. Most people of that era bathed wearing a linen gown.

I just don't see the issue, or at the least I don't understand how it is a ridiculous concept.

[vbibbi]

You sure do weep alot, and like sweaty Youtubers!

Yeah I don't know why but that guy gives me the creeps, regardless of what he's saying. He seems smug and self satisfied, which is ironic given his attitude in the video.

I'm not saying he's wrong, I don't follow those sites so don't have much background to go on. I've also heard similar things about the sites on these boards. But as an outsider, I need more supporting documentation on what he's referencing rather than letting us know we can ask him for links in the comments section. Why can't he just have an attached article to the video citing all of the evidence he's giving? It would make him seem a lot more credible if he's providing information like an unbiased journalist rather than attacking those sites as they apparently attack gamers.

[FKA_Servo]

Most sex scenes in TW2 show full frontal. They're done better as well. That part with Triss in the light tower...WTF was that? Lol. I still say if you don't want to do it right, just skip it.

I dunno. I played TW2 over the summer, so it's pretty fresh in my mind, and I remember the scenes there being nearly identical to TW3 in tone and content - that's to say, less cringeworthy than Bioware's at their worst, but not by a lot. Thoroughly adequate, at the end of the day. And if it matters, some incidental NPCs such as the succubi were even wearing clothes TW2, whereas they have no such inhibitions in TW3.

I just think that this is such a weird criteria to evaluate the extent to which CDPR is capitulating to the dreaded hordes of progressivism. It's a game for adults. Adult content is present, and its presence is appropriate and not gratuitous. Which is as it should be, I think, lest things just get silly. Shouldn't thematic or story content be as great a concern, or greater? It doesn't seem like TW3 pulled any punches in that respect either. It remains very much a mature work. I don't think the absence of "full frontal" is necessarily something worth fixating on.
 

Epic!

Due to the very existence of Polygon, I weep for humanity.

This dude is the creepiest creeper what ever creeped.

And I think that you, Panzer, could probably use some perspective. If things that don't matter make you weep for humanity, I'd hate to see your reaction to real adversity.

[SnakeCode]

Now that worries me too. I can only pray that they don't go far like Bio when sanitizing their titles. About the nudity, at first i figured there was less of it due to the cost of extra models, because the copy pasted body models would have been even more noticeable the more they're shown. And then there's the ideologically schizophrenic Kotaku.

 

 I have a suspicion that even though Polygon drunk 2 liters of cool-aid, Kotaku only uses progressivism for extortion.

 

Yup. Kotaku is a Gawker site, and by god does it operate like one. It's there to get clicks by any means necessary. Controversy gets clicks. Make no mistake though, they've definitely drank the koolaid. Jezebel is a Gawker site as well and they're about as far down the rabbit hole as can be. Just look at the twitter pages of any of the Kotaku staff, they aren't part time extremists. They're ideologues in their spare time too.

[wicked cool]

So far based on story alone it deserves best rpg however back to the original topic i think that dragon age in the next game could do a lot of same things

[Wolven_Soul]

I don't mind it at all.  In fact, I am rather enjoying having chatty companions.  It's pretty cool having them say something when I arrive at a quest location, and in a Bethesda game no less.  

 

Ya know another thing I am liking about FO4's companions is how they don't just stand there and stare at you while your doing something like hacking a terminal or looting the room.  They will go and take a rest by sitting on on a chair or couch, or leaning against the wall.  It's a little thing, but I am one that always appreciates little things like that.

[Ryzaki]

Ya know another thing I am liking about FO4's companions is how they don't just stand there and stare at you while your doing something like hacking a terminal or looting the room.  They will go and take a rest by sitting on on a chair or couch, or leaning against the wall.  It's a little thing, but I am one that always appreciates little things like that.

 

Agreed.

 

Feels so nice when McCready grabs a chair while I'm having a conversation instead of just standing there staring at me silently.
 

[NKnight7]

Agreed.

 

Feels so nice when McCready grabs a chair while I'm having a conversation instead of just standing there staring at me silently.
 

 

Or when they start cooking at a cooking station or crafting at one of the workbenches. I also like how companions interact more in this game than compared to the last few Bethesda ones.

[ashwind]

indeed in FO4 the companions going about their own business is a nice touch - mostly.

 

I like how they and other NPC interacts more - like how Piper will run off to get an interview and Nick talking to people in Diamond City. I'd wish they do this more - like have companion banters in base - learn from Bioware.

 

I dont like them using MY workbenches    Somehow the way I arrange my base and my work benches; cooking station for example: they get stuck and ended up blocking me.   Also, if they are in Power Armor, oh god, the armor glitches all over the place when they do that. 

 

What I dislike most is how they keep repeating the same freaking like "As long as you are carrying it, trash, rubbish" over and over for 150+ hours. It is seriously annoying the hell out of me. So Nick is chilling on a chair having a drink and keeps telling me I am picking up junk.   Bethesda needs to learn that when they have nothing better to say - just shut up!

[The Hierophant]

Most sex scenes in TW2 show full frontal. They're done better as well. That part with Triss in the light tower...WTF was that? Lol. I still say if you don't want to do it right, just skip it. 

It was DAO's level of cheesy. Sex by fire. So romantical.

[Hazegurl]

 

What I dislike most is how they keep repeating the same freaking like "As long as you are carrying it, trash, rubbish" over and over for 150+ hours. It is seriously annoying the hell out of me. So Nick is chilling on a chair having a drink and keeps telling me I am picking up junk.   Bethesda needs to learn that when they have nothing better to say - just shut up!

Yeah the repeating lines are too much. I flipped out and just started attacking all my companions at the settlement because the entire time I was there crafting, sorting things out decorating et al they just kept repeating the same thing over and over and over again. 

 

I would have liked the option to send some of my companions to their own places. Like Piper and Nick to Diamond City, Deacon back to the railroad HQ, Danse to the Prydwen.  I can understand sending Codsworth, Dog, Curie, et al to one of my settlements but the rest have their own jobs to do. Having them walk around my settlement repeating themselves got on my nerves.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah if Preston keeps mentioning me picking up junk I'm gonna shoot him too. It's getting ridiculous. And they all chime in one after the other why did I keep them all in Sanctuary. Why?

[ashwind]

Yeah the repeating lines are too much. I flipped out and just started attacking all my companions at the settlement because the entire time I was there crafting, sorting things out decorating et al they just kept repeating the same thing over and over and over again. 

 

I would have liked the option to send some of my companions to their own places. Like Piper and Nick to Diamond City, Deacon back to the railroad HQ, Danse to the Prydwen.  I can understand sending Codsworth, Dog, Curie, et al to one of my settlements but the rest have their own jobs to do. Having them walk around my settlement repeating themselves got on my nerves.

 

Yeah if Preston keeps mentioning me picking up junk I'm gonna shoot him too. It's getting ridiculous. And they all chime in one after the other why did I keep them all in Sanctuary. Why?

 

LOL - well, I did shoot them (after a quicksave naturally). It was a darn funny experience.

 

I collect Power Armor and have 7 of them all patched up, painted and all. I line them up in my base because it looks grand - my personal power armor army collection  .

 

I shot that annoying Long chick who keeps taunting me. Couple of settlers actually hijacked my power armor and turn it against me.   

 

Wish the companion AI would be that smart when they were on my side...