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Amy Hennig is a goddamn giant. I've never played any of the Uncharted games that she had a hand in (haven't had the proper console the last couple of generations - really want to though), but her work in Legacy of Kain marks her as one of the best writers working in the business, full stop.

 

When I heard that she was at EA working on Star Wars, I did a jig.

 

Completey unrelated to this thread and others matters, I was just going back and watching Soul Reaver trailers for fun yesterday or today or something, because I had good memories back when I played 1 and 2, however, it was surprising to see they didn't really strike me...

 

I realized though overall whatever Soul Reaver 1 and 2 were, the original Blood Omen was much better. Once I really played more than just a bit of Blood Omen I realized that's where most of the stuff came from and those were the things in SR1 and 2 I enjoyed most of all.

 

Although I am compelled to ask how this relates to TW3...

 

Ah! Maybe have more genuine anti-heroic bloodthirsty vampire characters? In all seriousness the thing about Blood Omen is it reminded me of what a genuine anti-hero type of character was, nowadays with so many edgelord rip-offs everywhere it's hard to remember what the real thing was like in the first place. They already have used Simon Templeman for all kinds of stuff, may as well.

 

As for TW3 winning, completely expected on my part, the VGAs are kind of like the Oscars but more wary, instead of having like a "foreign language" category, they'll go so far as to give the award to the Polish company as like a "feel good" story and to convince people Bethesda or whatever isn't just this permanent frontrunner... unless of course that's exactly what some people seem to notice. Anyway, someone like them will be sure to win next year.

 

Basically, they're trying to really hard to make it a "thing," and it's precisely because they're trying so hard I can't really say I care all that much... Besides it's absurd considering all the Japanese games and developers where it would be pretty far to travel and yet are (still) kind of the developers of many modern video games.



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Although I am compelled to ask how this relates to TW3...

 

Nothing exactly, but it seems common in this thread :D I think it came up because I mentioned Jade Raymond at the awards.. and then it led to me mentioning Amy Hennig, since they're both at EA now.



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Nothing exactly, but it seems common in this thread :D I think it came up because I mentioned Jade Raymond at the awards.. and then it led to me mentioning Amy Hennig, since they're both at EA now.

 

Oh. Well, whatever Amy Hennig's personal aesthetic is I think it's much closer to Uncharted than Blood Omen.

 

As entertaining as it was to be essentially invincible for the final portion of Soul Reaver 2, I can't honestly say that made me want to re-play it too badly.

 

Although arguably Raziel is invincible in all of SR because of the spectral reallllllllllim getting off topic again.

 

 

Witcher 3!

 

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I'm a bigger fan of Uncharted too, fwiw.

 

Ciri is like the Bethany of this game. :P



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I'm a bigger fan of Uncharted too, fwiw.

 

Ciri is like the Bethany of this game. :P

 

Not quite what I was saying,  :whistle:  would still rather play Soul Reaver than Uncharted.. Uncharted to me is kind of at the forefront of the mass commercialized game, tons of graphics and environments, but mechanically/aristically I'd rather play Max Payne or something for that kind of thing as a third person FPS, or just Ocarina of Time as a platformer or something, neither of which have all the flash but are just substantively much more engaging.

 

Although the fact that you like Uncharted more suggests that it's probably generally a good idea to go with what you believe in first and foremost, and let other people do their other things. I don't know if Blood Omen fans are really great fans of Soul Reaver and Uncharted fans great fans of Soul Reaver on the whole so...........................

 

Darn it Kat you got me off topic again!

 

Ciri!

 

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Hm maybe not enough this time still.. Vesemir!

 

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Ha! No one saw that coming.


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Not quite what I was saying,  :whistle:  would still rather play Soul Reaver than Uncharted.. Uncharted to me is kind of at the forefront of the mass commercialized game, tons of graphics and environments, but mechanically and aristically I'd rather play Max Payne or something for that kind of thing as a third person FPS, or just Ocarina of Time as a platformer or something, neither of which have all the flash but are just substantively much more engaging.

 

Although the fact that you like Uncharted more suggests that it's probably generally a good idea to go with what you believe in first and foremost, and let other people do their other things.

 

Oh, I misunderstood... in any case, I like them more than Kain.

 

I don't see the relation with Max Payne. I compare it directly to Tomb Raider.. both are more platformish, with puzzles, than the typical action or shooter. Personally, I never liked Max Payne. I can't argue against Zelda games though. Nothing wrong with that.

 

As for JP games and these awards -- Blame Japan. They barely have enough to offer for consideration anymore. I'm still afraid the whole industry will start looking like that sooner or later.

 

Although Bloodborne and MGS were there, of course. And even then, Konami are being punks.



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Oh, I misunderstood... in any case, I like them more than Kain.

 

I don't see the relation with Max Payne. I compare it directly to Tomb Raider.. both are more platformish, with puzzles, than the typical action or shooter. Personally, I never liked Max Payne. I can't argue against Zelda games though. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Well even then I'd rather play Underworld than Uncharted, as for Max Payne the second one and some of the others were really just not very good I'm pretty much referring to just te first one.

 

I feel like I'm off topic again, are we off topic again, now to appease the forum gods... something more substantial...
 

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There we go, all in one, phew, all I could manage.. much energy.... expended.



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Well even I'd rather play Underworld than Uncharted, as for Max Payne the second one and some of the others were really just not very good I'm pretty much referring to just te first one.

 

As for Japan well that's some really bitter salt there.. but that's just a AAA game perspective most of the great games I've played have been handheld or console

 

Whoa when I quoted your post that was some bitter salt towards Japan....

 

I'll just uh leave that out.

 

Yeah, it's just AAA perspective.. but that's all I care about. I don't even own a mobile. I've still got a damn landline phone --- and I hang up whenever anyone calls. :D

 

I like big sprawling escapist experiences.. I just wish it wasn't so damn expensive, because it's kicking out good developers now. Japan especially.



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BTW, I appreciate the attempts to get on topic...

 

I wouldn't worry too much though. This is 500 pages of this stuff. ;)

 

However, I could tie it into topic and say Witcher probably made more money and cost less than DAI. I don't know how much DAI cost though.. Witcher 3 was 80 million. But the scary thing is when they make games these expensive and they're just not that successful.



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Amy Hennig is a goddamn giant. I've never played any of the Uncharted games that she had a hand in (haven't had the proper console the last couple of generations - really want to though), but her work in Legacy of Kain marks her as one of the best writers working in the business, full stop.

 

When I heard that she was at EA working on Star Wars, I did a jig.

 

She was involved with Legacy of Kain?  That's enough for me to say that she's awesome.  Freaking loved those games and to this day I am still wanting another one.  I'll have a chance to play the Uncharted games as soon as I can make myself stop playing Fallout.  Got the Uncharted collection PS4 bundle on Black Friday.  Or...Black Thursday as it should now be called at Wal-Mart.   :rolleyes:


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Well it was to give feedback as to what Bioware could learn from The Witcher. Frankly i don't want Dragon Age to be more like The Witcher in any way when it comes to gameplay and setting. Just learning from having better choice/consequence system and side-quests. And i agree with you. As gamers it is in our best interest that companies make good games and they don't run eachother out of business, everyone can learn from eachother and should. 

 

Yeah, I always think of WWE vs WCW when that sort of thing comes up.  WWE eventually ran WCW out of business, and afterwards, without that major competition, WWE's product has gone steadily downhill over the years.  So yeah,  I want as many developers competing with each other as possible, hopefully with as little publisher intervention as possible.


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Ah! Maybe have more genuine anti-heroic bloodthirsty vampire characters? 

 

 

Funny you should mention that.  Recently heard about a game called Vampyr in development.  An action-RPG where you play a doctor turned vampire in 1918 London during an outbreak of Spanish flu.  Sounds interesting.  It's by Dontnod.


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Amy Hennig is hands down my favorite writer in the industry. Still got all the original copies for each LOKSR game. 

 

Her work on the LoK, UC and JnD franchises shows that she's a multifaceted writer in terms of consistent/complex plotlines and themes, drama, character depth, banter, humor and flow.

 

Then there's her directorial skills.


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#12739
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I didn't see anyone mentioning here, but TW3 also won Best RPG!


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I didn't see anyone mentioning here, but TW3 also won Best RPG!

I did :( or i said they won 3 awards. 



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Btw ive been watching some FO4 lp and really, the voice of the protag is sexeh. I won't mind him on the next da even if I will never make a male toon on a bioware title.


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Btw ive been watching some FO4 lp and really, the voice of the protag is sexeh. I won't mind him on the next da even if I will never make a male toon on a bioware title.

Its quite sexy, he isn't bad to look at either. Both ingame and real life, rawr. 



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Btw ive been watching some FO4 lp and really, the voice of the protag is sexeh. I won't mind him on the next da even if I will never make a male toon on a bioware title.

 

I really loved his voice too. The only way I've been able to describe it is that he has a 'dad' voice. Which works. :S



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Yes I do love the male's voice :wub:

 

Though the snarky lines are a hit or a miss.

 

"I'm calling it right here. This world can officially bite my ass." was my favorite <3



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I really loved his voice too. The only way I've been able to describe it is that he has a 'dad' voice. Which works. :S

DILF?


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Yes I do love the male's voice :wub:
 
Though the snarky lines are a hit or a miss.
 
"I'm calling it right here. This world can officially bite my ass." was my favorite <3


I'm partial to "I'm here to pick up an order. Two large pepperonis and a calzone. Name is 'f*** you.'" myself. :P
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lol, there is a mod which makes every battle against enemies turn into Gwent games. You win, all enemies die, you lose...well you die.

 



Clearly a mod for Servo.


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So the male's voice is good too? I'm dead set on using Courtenay, but good to know.

 

Still haven't played actually...



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So the male's voice is good too? I'm dead set on using Courtenay, but good to know.

Still haven't played actually...


I still prefer the female voice :P

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lol, there is a mod which makes every battle against enemies turn into Gwent games. You win, all enemies die, you lose...well you die.

 



Clearly a mod for Servo.

That mod is going to save my future playthroughs. It'll be abit like Pokemon!