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You'd think it would, but it doesn't always, which is silly. Oblivion and Morrowind don't, for example. Or KoTOR, for that matter. And I have Pinnacle Game Profiler, but that's reliably twitchy and annoying.

 

Hell, the ME trilogy doesn't even support a gamepad on PC, which is mystifying to me.

 

Oh, I mean the raw power. JE is really old.. it should look OK. Even with all the settings up on mine, it's still old looking. Heh.

 

I wouldn't mind the controller on DAO and DA2. I think it's better actually..especially for DA2.. but it's nice having the mods and long hotkey bar too.



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Thanks!

 

I am... actually really excited. I had JE on the original Xbox, and it's the only Bioware game I've played but never completed for whatever reason.

I'm replaying it right now. It didn't age very gracefully, but I missed this game nonetheless. 

 

Its video settings are bit behind the times, lacking antialiasing and similar goodies, so I'm messing around with driver settings right now to give it a bit of polish.

 

Also, you need to manually set your aspect ratio to widescreen in the video settings for the appropriate resolutions to show up. Took me minutes to figure out. :D



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Also, you need to manually set your aspect ratio to widescreen in the video settings for the appropriate resolutions to show up. Took me minutes to figure out. :D

 

Yeah, that's nice. Too bad Kotor doesn't do that.



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Oh, I mean the raw power. JE is really old.. it should look OK. Even with all the settings up on mine, it's still old looking. Heh.

 

I wouldn't mind the controller on DAO and DA2. I think it's better actually..especially for DA2.. but it's nice having the mods and long hotkey bar too.

 

Yeah, I guess you were responding to vbibbi, thought it was to me. I run TW3 at mostly ultra, so I dearly hope it'll do a ten year old Bioware game justice.

 

I just like sitting on a couch. I sit upright in front of a monitor all day at work, and that's in a chair that's considerably more expensive and ostensibly more comfortable than the one I can actually afford to own at home. The last thing I want to do is pursue my favored hobby that way. Controllers just lend themselves to that sort of lounging a lot better.



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Yeah, I guess you were responding to vbibbi, thought it was to me. I run TW3 at mostly ultra, so I dearly hope it'll do a ten year old Bioware game justice.

 

I just like sitting on a couch. I sit upright in front of a monitor all day at work, and that's in a chair that's considerably more expensive and ostensibly more comfortable than the one I can actually afford to own at home. The last thing I want to do is pursue my favored hobby that way. Controllers just lend themselves to that sort of lounging a lot better.

 

i don't blame you. I still mostly play X1/PS4 and game from couches too. I have a decent laptop for PC games (but not good enough for something like the Witcher 3), but that's why I never bothered with a controller. I still kick back on this laptop.



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Witcher 4 is coming ! Geralt pal, we shall meet again!

 

http://www.gamespot....d/1100-6432842/

 

Awesome!  Probably won't have Geralt as the main character, they have said that his story is over.  That's okay, as long as they give him a cameo in the game.  I would be all for a new protagonist, much as I would miss the White Wolf.  Maybe it's time to see what they can do with a custom character.  A build your own Witcher.



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Why the first part or why the second part?

 

Ciri has uncommon magical aptitude. I guess if they want to play it that way, that could be the way they swing women as witchers. It would limit the prospective applicants to those with magical abilities already.

 

 

 

That could be rather interesting actually.  A way to diversify the combat.  Male Witchers are stronger swordsman with the sign abilities, and female Witchers are stronger in the magical side of things with less focus on the sword abilities.  I know that I would love to be able to play a character where I can use Ciri's blink ability again.  



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That would make the idea of a prequel or game set in a different part of the world than the Northern Kingdoms make sense, then. The time and location of where TW3 leaves off arguably doesn't need new witchers, but different locations and/or periods of time could.

 

 

 

Unrelated to this topic: I'm watching some of the FO4 videos, and the discussions with Preston Garvey highlight one of the unique features of TW3 compared to many RPGs. Preston tells us that he isn't in a position to rebuild the Minutemen but we can. I haven't played the game or have much context, but this just seems like another power fantasy where the PC has to fix everything for everyone, and no one else is as capable as we are.

 

Things like this really stretch my suspension of disbelief and annoy me. Really? The guy who was a leader of the Minutemen is not in as good a position to rebuild them as a complete stranger is? Granted, I could be missing context and details, and maybe it does make sense if I would actually, you know, play the game. In which case ignore this. But if not, I'm tired of playing the one person in the world who can fix XY and Z.

 

That's one of my peeves with the Inquisitor's special snowflake status with the Anchor. And one of the refreshing things about TW3. Yes, our actions end up having significant impact on the world, both politically and in stopping the White Frost, but the central story is much more personalized and is about Geralt seeking and protecting Ciri, and helping her embrace her destiny. We are an important figure, but we're not the only person who can save the world (in fact, Ciri is better able to do so), and we're not the only person in a position to help (the battle at Kaer Morhen and the sorceresses' help in Skellige prove this).

 

It's nice to play a game where we turn out to be inconsequential despite our actions (DA2 though I enjoy the game) and we're not the World Savior (DAO and DAI), but we still have some part to play in the greater scheme of things.

 

Plus the optional questline with Radovid, which has lasting implications but is in no way necessary to advance the game. Another great feature.

 

Fully in agreement here.  I would like to see less chosen one to save the world stories and more personal stories when it comes to RPG's.  


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#12859
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Fully in agreement here.  I would like to see less chosen one to save the world stories and more personal stories when it comes to RPG's.  

I want both! Is that to much to ask?



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I want both! Is that to much to ask?

 

Both but seperate games? I'm fine with that. Then I can simply avoid the Chosen Ones entirely. And then play the other games which would be better. :P

 

You can't have both in the same game though. But I think the best attempt at these two flavors was Hawke. And it happens to be my favorite DA of the bunch. Hawke was no Chosen One, but they were special enough for the plot and Kirkwall. That's good enough for me. And sort of feels closer to my idea of a Homeric epic than a Tolkien one. By that I mean, it was essentially a down to earth plot (making a home, being an immigrant), without a whole world at stake or some "Dark Lord" taking over everything.

 

I mean, I'd be fine if I just played some City Elf's life in Tevinter in the next game.. and it was personalized, much like Fenris' life. Maybe with a lot of rogue-ish stuff like Thief or Assassin's Creed. No world at stake.. just social issues. You could still fight big baddies, but the plot itself could be down to earth.

 

Unfortunately, that's not gonna happen. Since Solas is yet another Dark Lord type himself. This time Patrick Weekes will regurgitate the same crap instead of Gaider.


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You'd think it would, but it doesn't always, which is silly. Oblivion and Morrowind don't, for example. Or KoTOR, for that matter. And I have Pinnacle Game Profiler, but that's reliably twitchy and annoying.

 

Hell, the ME trilogy doesn't even support a gamepad on PC, which is mystifying to me.

 

Actually Morrowind does "support" controller (highly not recommended). You only need to set your controller to the old Direct Input mode. I have tried it on both Logitech 310 and F710 gamepads. Sadly, you still need to rely on mouse/keyboard to control inventory and menu - so tis pretty useless  :P but it does "support" controllers... to some extend.



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Honestly what I found most interesting about the whole chosen one trope in regards to TW3 was that there was a chosen one.

...it just wasn't you. Ciri actually says it's her story, not yours, which kind of put things into perspective - Geralt really isn't the key to everything. Personally I actually found this more interesting than avoiding the trope entirely. I know not everyone liked it, but I did. :S
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Honestly what I found most interesting about the whole chosen one trope in regards to TW3 was that there was a chosen one.

...it just wasn't you. Ciri actually says it's her story, not yours, which kind of put things into perspective - Geralt really isn't the key to everything. Personally I actually found this more interesting than avoiding the trope entirely. I know not everyone liked it, but I did. :S

 

A valid point. And simply finding Ciri is a less urgent call than saving the world yourself, which compliments the open world structure. But I still hope they avoid generic stuff in Cyberpunk because if The Witcher has occasional cliches, Cyberpunk 2077 is littered with them. Especially when it comes to the villains, which in TW3 were the weakest they've done imo.


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Especially when it comes to the villains, which in TW3 were the weakest they've done imo.

 

I think that was in large part due to cut content in the base game. Eredin seemed to be a mere caricature of what he was supposed to be.  

 

I mean, look at Gaunter O'Dimm in Hearts of Stone - he was the quality I expect from CDPR. Olgierd too, even if I consider him to be more the protagonist of the story in a weird way. 


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#12865
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Yeah, simply finding Ciri is what boils down to for you.. which is why I'll get behind it too. Although it's not the best example of the type of plots I like.

 

 

 

A valid point. And simply finding Ciri is a less urgent call than saving the world yourself, which compliments the open world structure. But I still hope they avoid generic stuff in Cyberpunk because if The Witcher has occasional cliches, Cyberpunk 2077 is littered with them. Especially when it comes to the villains, which in TW3 were the weakest they've done imo.

 

They could avoid it if it's simply about existing in the setting.. There's tons of stories to tell in any given city or urban layout.. but especially a sci-fi one. It shouldn't have to be about the setting's impending doom. Ugh. If that's all people can imagine, it's pretty sad.



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I think that was in large part due to cut content in the base game. Eredin seemed to be a mere caricature of what he was supposed to be.  

 

I mean, look at Gaunter O'Dimm in Hearts of Stone - he was the quality I expect from CDPR. Olgierd too, even if I consider him to be more the protagonist of the story in a weird way. 

Gaunter O'Dimm is hands down the most bad-ass antagonist in 2015. More importantly he is an original character. To avoid potential conflict to lore and more creativity, the best possible solution for TW4 is allow PC other than a witcher  (e.g. Nilfgaardian officer,  young sorceress from Aretuza or even a red rider). Players could experiences the world from perspective they interested in and based on TW3's character design and story telling, I'm pretty confident CDPR will deliver a masterpiece without the help from the white wolf (but must include Geralt's dream hut with Yenna and Ciri).


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#12867
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(but must include Geralt's dream hut with Yenna and Ciri).


You mean the one in Kovir, right?

And you misspelled "Triss."
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#12868
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You mean the one in Kovir, right?

And you misspelled "Triss."

Nope, Kovir eventually became a republic and Geralt never leave northern kingdoms.



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You mean the one in Kovir, right?

And you misspelled "Triss."

 

The one is Kovir is not a "hut" - Triss would not stay in a "hut" and the adviser to the King would not stay in a "hut" thus I think panzer spelled it right.

 

B)



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‘A pretty dream,’ said Yennefer, stroking him lightly on the shoulder. ‘A home. A house built with your own hands, and you and I in that house. You would keep horses and sheep, and I would have a little garden, cook food and card wool, which we would take to market. With the pennies earned from selling the wool and various crops we would buy what we needed; let’s say some copper cauldrons and an iron rake. Every now and then, Ciri would visit us with her husband and three children, and Triss Merigold would occasionally look in, to stay for a few days. We’d grow old together, beautifully and with dignity. And should I ever get bored, you would play for me in the evening on your homemade bagpipes. Playing the bagpipes – as everyone knows – is the best remedy for depression.’

 

Geralt has simple dreams and zero interests in any political scheme. So yep, I rest my case. :P


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#12871
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Nice dream and all but Geralt is chilling in Kovir with Triss making loads of money doing one Witcher contract a year while Triss does her political thing.  Yennefer is free to leave her hut to check in on them and stay for a while, though.   B)


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#12872
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I'm torn. Or Geralt is.



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A statement about the rumor from Marcin Momot(CD Projekt Red Dev):

 

https://twitter.com/...190114839506944



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It is good to see a game that actually deserved GOTY, win GOTY.

 

I'd go a step further and say that The Witcher 3 was the best RPG released in the last five years.


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It is good to see a game that actually deserved GOTY, win GOTY.

 

I'd go a step further and say that The Witcher 3 was the best RPG released in the last five years.

Bold. Why do people care so much about GOTY awards btw? :)