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[Elhanan]

I am happy with the free DLC that we've gotten so far like the B.E. and so forth. Buit at the same time I wish the decisions I made during the game (however small) had a bigger impact on the general story. Not saying I don't enjoy playing DA:I I am close to nearly 300 hours of play time. But I also pre-ordered TW3, I'll get it in the next couple of days (had to import it because I don't want to risk playing it in German). I am very impressed with how CPR deals with it's costumers and how it respects gamers. EA as a whole could take them as an example imo.

Again, be aware that movement keys WASD in TW3 have been hardcoded for all keyboards, as well as a few other controls. This is causing some trouble for those that use another type of keyboard, or desire to re-map functions to other desired control keys. Currently, many of the PC reviews and CDPR support recommend utilizing a controller, which for a PC owner could be an issue.

[AlanC9]

Currently, many of the PC reviews and CDPR support recommend utilizing a controller, which for a PC owner could be an issue.

Anyone else find this just a bit weird? Surely CDPR must have been aware of all the grief Bio got over DAI's control scheme.

[Elhanan]

Anyone else find this just a bit weird? Surely CDPR must have been aware of all the grief Bio got over DAI's control scheme.

Only guessing, but the idea that Devs like using controllers even on the PC might be influencing the action. However, as some have mentioned elsewhere, to hardcode control function seems unusual for a programmer.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Grow the hell up.  The only thing they share is they are fantasy games. THATS IT. 

 

And we got some free dLC for it.  I cant wait for the Witch Series to screw up so some of you fanboys can be taken down a peg.

The irony of saying "Grow the hell up" while falling into the role you claim to disdain.  This is a defensive fanboy post, misinterpreting the thread as a contest between 2 video games, rather than a detailed analysis and invitation for feedback about what we all feel each do best.

 

Also, to so confidently claim that the only thing The Witcher and Dragon Age have in common in being "fantasy games. THATS IT" is ridiculous. Both are similarly structured RPGs with Main Quests and Side Quests that involve crosses between medieval combat and magic, feature "sort of" open worlds, and take place in a time of great societal upheaval/war. Both also include other worldly forces that threaten the world and must be stopped by the player.  Both have conversation systems in which the player can develop their character's personality and respond to the world and its inhabitants as they choose. Both have mounts. Both have Fast Travel. Both are available on multiple platforms and generated a similar amount of hype/excitement upon release. Both are early attempts at creating deep and engaging RPGs on next-gen hardware (now current-gem, I suppose).

[slimgrin]

Anyone else find this just a bit weird? Surely CDPR must have been aware of all the grief Bio got over DAI's control scheme.

 

Unfortunately, it didn't matter. There's still some consolization in TW3. They've done much better than before, but you can't remap all the inputs, for instance. And some are double or triple bound. They got an earful of criticism over this from TW2 and yet here we are again. I've come to the conclusion that multiplatform development sucks balls for PC gamers.

[Eelectrica]

Anyone else find this just a bit weird? Surely CDPR must have been aware of all the grief Bio got over DAI's control scheme.

Very odd to lock the default movement keys down like that. For me personally, it's not an issue, but that's me. I could imagine left handed people in particular may not find it as convenient.

[VelvetV]

why on earth would anyone side with Iorveth, the man makes Anders look like a noble hero

 

Because siding with him branches off into what is literally a different game with almost no overlapping content?

 

Honestly, though, I sided with him first for a very amusing reason: for the life of me I couldn't find Roche when I needed to make the choice! Iorveth was my only option to get out of that town

 

I can kind of understand Iorveth. Kind of. But a lot less than, say, DA's mages, who actually are feared for what they are and oppressed. The elves are despised, true, but aren't feared unless they become terrorists, so nothing prevents them from living as normal people in TW world except themselves. A lot of people, races and genders (like women and non-traditionals) in TW are miserable, not only them, life in that world sucks, so for them to consider themselves most miserable and resort to terrorism seems blind to me. Then again, I have to wonder if that world wouldn't be a lot better if everyone else followed suit. Changes in such a world can only be accomplished through revolution, as noone from nobility would want them. So my opinion on Iorveth is rather conflicted. And even then, my only true dislike is that the Scoiatel kill innocent people, they should be more sensible and attack only men like soldiers who actually help to enforce the order they despise, and not other victims like themselves.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Although people really miss out on the irony in TW2's political plot, which is that everyone in the northern kingdoms gets trolled by Nilfgaaard. 

I don't think it's any coincidence they recruited Tywin Lannister to voice Nilfgaard's emperor after this very Tywin-esque schooling. But of course, even Tywin failed to account for all the fish carrying crossbows and I'm kind of hoping that something unexpected brings down Emperor Emyhr as well (no spoilers as I haven't made it even close to halfway through TW3 yet).

[Spectre Impersonator]

I'm hearing nothing but bad things about the item durability system in Witcher 3. It's intrusive and annoying. So yeah, I'll say it again: I hope that never makes it into Dragon Age.

While I'd prefer a menu option to turn Item Durability OFF, I'm kinda surprised that it isn't as annoying as I predicted. As the item wears out, penalties to it's stats are not terribly steep and the item is still functional. I would rather just use a sword I like as long as it's useful but meh... I'll deal. It's definitely not a positive in the Witcher 3 and it wasn't something included in the other games.

[chrstnmonks]

We can add Ubisoft's annual blockbusters to that too.

I wonder how much of the success of Skyrim was due it to being so moddable?

[Hazegurl]

And people were praising the game for being bugless!

 

I dread a new PC patch, they say it's going to upgrade the graphics, and while my PC is fine to run TW3 now on ultra (provided that grass density is medium and background characters are low), I expect stuttering and frame loss to start once "better graphics" are patched in.

 

What's your opinion on the main quest of the game after finishing it? Just a general opinion, I'm not asking for spoilers

 

P.S. It's kind of annoying if Iorveth is not in the game. That's bound to anger all people who used a Iorveth save 

I think those who praise it as being bug free probably didn't run across those issues.  I just watched a streamer go right into Roche's "Eye for an Eye" mission with no problems. I'm thinking it must have something to do with me running off to do another mission instead of running straight to the meeting spot like I saw the streamer do.  Either way, it should be patched as I wasn't in the middle of the mission when I did it. 

 

However, I've also encountered floating animals and Triss's head popping off.  Thankfully it happened only once but when it did it freaked me out.  You really don't want to see Triss literally sliding across the room with her bald head floating next to her.  lol!!

 

I also hope the better graphics patch doesn't make it hard for me to run it.  Right now the game looks beautiful and I'm running it on High.

 

My opinion on the main mission. 

 

One word

 

EPIC

 

There are actually two major battles that take place where your previous choices earlier ingame have an impact.  The planning and preparations by all the characters involved puts Mass Effect and Dragon Age to shame.  Unlike DAI where the ending is abrupt and wrapped up with a random fourman fight scene in some random location. TW3 actually have the characters formulate a plan where everyone has a job to do to ensure the success of the fight. Especially with the first battle.  You have to really pay attention to what you're told to do and where you need to be.  The second battle is pure wonderful chaos, just make sure you have your potions, bombs et al ready.  The antagonists are complex although I would have liked to have seen more of them. By the end I sort of understood their motivations. The bond between Ciri and Geralt is just beautiful.

 

I hope none of that spoils anything.

 

Yeah I would have enjoyed seeing Iroveth again but I understand why he wasn't in it (as far as I know).  I think the problems the world and Geralt faces are just bigger than a nonhuman rebellion.  Roche actually thinks Geralt is joking if you ask him if he's still fighting the Scoia'tal (sp).

[Grieving Natashina]

I wonder how much of the success of Skyrim was due it to being so moddable?

Not much actually.  86% of all sales were on the console.

 

http://www.statistic...s-v-statistics/

[Spectre Impersonator]

I love DAI, and think it's BioWare's best game this century.

Now I know why they call you "the Mad".  

[VelvetV]

*snip*

 

Thanks, you've given me motivation to proceed with the game! I found the main quest line lackluster in the beginning (the whole meeting with E.v.E., then the keira and baron quests) and found characters unrelatable. It's nice that it gets so much better!

 

Now I just need to find out whether I have to replay the game with Roche save to have his personal quest or not.  I don't want to miss out on that. But I don't want to replay, either, after so much side questing.

 

You can play fast, btw   And lol, the Triss bug sounds funny, in a dark humor sort of way 

[DanteYoda]

Bioware doesn't need to follow the Witcher or Skyrim, they need to Follow Origins, Mass Effect 1, Kotor and Jade empire etc........

[Saphiron123]

I will say this as a negative about the witcher, the witcher 1 was awful. Borderline unplayable in this day and age due to the awful line delivery and terrible outdated facial animations and combat.

Then they did the witcher 2, which was amazing. And now the witcher 3 is so far superior to that, I'm excited to keep playing. DAI was the opposite, origins was amazing, da2 had a lot of Greta elements but was rushed and got a lot of hate for recycled maps and waves of enemies, and DAI at times made me feel actual emotional disappointment.

The witcher seems to be raising the bar, DAI watered it down and cut elements until it was empty... I guess it fits with EA's vision though, games so simple and basic anyone can learn them in seconds. No thought required.

[Saphiron123]

Bioware doesn't need to follow the Witcher or Skyrim, they need to Follow Origins, Mass Effect 1, Kotor and Jade empire etc........

I'd be happy with that, but I'm not happy with is tactic-less mmo fetch questing grindy direction they seem to be going, where the main story is basically an afterthought.

The witcher looks and feels pretty similar to DAI actually, but it's just got stuff in the world and it feels complex, not watered down.

[Elhanan]

An article some may wish to read:

http://www.destructo...nt-292553.phtml

[Zekka]

I don't know if I'm even allowed to post here since I don't have DAI or TW3 but I think it is a bad idea to be more like another game because a lot of times that game just ends up being inferior to it.

 

I've heard criticisms for both games and it seems to be rather than Bioware shouldn't be adding features and change things in their series that shouldn't be changed. I've heard that DAI has a lot of fetch quests which is weird because origins never had a large amount of fetch quests. I've also heard it plays more like an MMO than anything else, I think they should have just stuck with one style of combat from the past two games than a mix. It is hard to appeal to everyone. but something that is bugging is why Bioware have been cutting things out and adding unnecessary features into their most recent games.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Thanks for your honest feedback here.  I know you've been really frustrated and let down by BioWare a lot, and I won't be condescending and say, "Sorry you feel that way."  I mean, I'm not thrilled that you feel like you wasted your money on a BioWare game, so please don't get me wrong here.  I hope you have a better experience with BW games in the future and I'm very happy you're enjoying TW3 as much as you have been.

 

I know you need to vent sometimes, but I enjoy reading stuff like this from you.  You've also tossed out some good examples of what the DA team can do better rather than only say things like "CDPR is the hotness."  I know you're one of the more frustrated fans on the BSN, so I honestly thank you for feedback.  

You're a very level-headed and sensitive poster and it's a wonder you can last as such a regular on the BSN.  Thanks a lot for saying all that. I think you're a truly good person.

 

As much as I gripe, I still have hope for Bioware to make more great games but I really don't know about the DA franchise. It's just schizophrenically wavered so much that I'm to the point where I'd rather just see them start a new IP. It's reinvented itself with every one of its three games and seems like it's in line to do so again. It's maddening to keep up with.

[Han Shot First]

Don't forget his beautiful singing voice he was awesome

Loved the Baron's quest

Spoiler

even though he turned out to be a wife beater I felt stunned and a little sad when he hung himself because you couldn't save his wife ...

 

Spoiler

The baron & his wife can survive if you kill the evil spirit that wants to possess the horse. On the other hand it is implied that the children were killed by the three Crones.

 

The outcome to either choice is dark, but thats probably to be expected from a scenario where Geralt is being asked to choose the lesser of two evils. Both the Crones & the spirit that was trapped in the tree are malevolent. 

 

Great quest chain though, and both the Crones & the tree spirit were legitimately creepy.

[Sartoz]

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My TW3 arrived and decided to install it even though my Radeon 7770 is below the recommended 7870 minimum. Why? Well, I've seen a couple of posts indicating that it ran fine on their 7770. Results?... Works fine so far in Story Mode with Ambient Occlusion OFF and Hairworks OFF and a couple of other minor tweaks at 1920 x 1080. I let the default 30fps locked in plus VSYNC ON.

 

As to story.. I just reached the first Inn. .. so I'm not even an hour into it. The number of cut scenes with NPC interaction is far, far, far more than in DAI... more movie like, but then I'm in Story Mode. The story being told so far is gritty with NPC remarks even racist as the Witcher is not loved by some peasants or thugs. Definitely different from the scrubbed white washed one in DAI. Remember, this is Europe in 1272 and the game seems to reflect the culture....

 

Controls on a PC.

Ah... yes, the keyboard and mouse controls, something that I have complained about in DAI.  Basically, TW3 has a complex combat choreography requiring the use of quite a few keys and combo keys for roll, dodge,  moving  forward or skipping backwards  all on the left side of the keyboard, plus the left/right mouse buttons for attacking and parrying. I definitely need to practice the art of combat. Hit the Z key to lock onto  an enemy, which helps.

 

Personally, I'd prefer the DA2 combat controls.... but that's because my maestro fingering controls are way past my current abilities. I need to think and rebind some keys possibly even to the mouse as I have a Razer Mouse with 12 extra buttons. So, there are possibilities for me. At, least, off the gate, TW3 allows me to rebind many of the default controls to the mouse. 

 

So far, the game has pulled me.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Will you please stop lumping everyone together?  I am a gay male who loves the Witcher series and also like games that have a social conscience. Good games can be made in multiple ways.  I don't think being a "social justice" proponent is what make DA1 a good or bad game, and I don't think the Witcher series is good or bad because it eschews this.  The games have way more to draw on than that.

 

Aww...Did I hurt your fragile feelings ? There is a proverb in the Malay Language that says :- "Siapa makan cili dia terasa pedas" which translated to English means :- "Those who eat the chili will fell the burn".

 

If you take a look at what I wrote, I said "these kinds of people". I did not name any individual names, I did not name any particular specific group. I just said "these kinds of people". So if you are getting offended by that, chances are you are those kinds of people and that's neither my problem nor my concern. Its yours. 

 

Now onto other matters.  

 

Video games are a form of entertainment, not a tool to develop social conscience. People play video games as a form of escapism, they do not play just so they can get lectured on some social ideology. Video games are a means for human beings to experience and indulge in their fantasies in a harmless manner. This is extremely vital as throughout history, humans have entertained themselves through various means, often violent and brutal. Gladiatorial events, duels, violent wars, etc. Now, due to advances in technology, we no longer have to employ gladiators or torture tools or fight duels of honor to experience our need to escape into a pocket universe to enjoy ourselves. We can watch movies and play video games, which is why these two industries make lots of money. That is the primary goal of video games...to entertain, not to lecture. If people want to be lectured on how to live their lives or how to think, they would turn to philosophy or religion, not video games. 

 

As for you being gay, that is, once again, neither my problem nor my concern. RPG games exist to tell a particular story of an event or the world or of a particular character or a combination of these things. They do not exist to give straight people or gay people or trans people a social conscience. The moment you start playing a video game, you are a Gamer. Only your rig's specs, your skill, your capacity to comprehend the lore and your internet connection that matters. Your preference for a particular reproductive organ or sex is not relevant. 

 

That, I think, explains why I think social justice or social conscience is bad for video games. It stifles the ability of the entertainment content creator, in this case, video game developer to code in the fantasy they want to tell for the fear of causing offense. Social Justice, just like Puritanism, Mob Rule and Vigilante Justice before it, becomes a dictatorial means by which thought crimes are made reality, censorship is rampant and a particular social agenda is pushed by certain groups of people, because feels.

 

This is also why CDProjektRed is far superior to Bioware. CDPR do not shackle themselves or concern themselves with social justice nonsense, unlike Bioware. As a result, they can write whatever they want and portray whatever they want in order to tell the story they want to tell. 

 

Take the quest about the Baron and the Botchling for instance. It was a quest involving cuckoldry, spouse abuse, alcohol addiction. CDPR did an oustanding job of portraying how grey each and every one of the character in that quest is. Do you think Bioware would have done that ? I don't think so. Bioware would have portrayed the Baron as this bad evil misogynistic abuser and that's about it, because social justice and because feels. They would never have done the quest as good as CDPR did it. 

 

Or what about Ves in Witcher 2, especially if you follow Roche's path ? Ves ends up getting raped in it. In the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 2, you as Geralt can choose to save a sorceress from being raped. CDPR showed us what happened because they could.  You think Bioware would have ? Nah, they would be too worried about causing offense. They would be upset about pissing folks on Twitter, Tumblr and Fakebook.

 

Or what about something other than Witcher. Take Game of Thrones. That television series has incest, murder, rape, torture, etc. Think someone concerned with social justice and social conscience would make that television series ? Nope, they won't because they are worried about causing offense. Because of feels. 

 

So yes, while Witcher 3 does have way more draw than DAI for other reasons, the lack of censorship due to social justice weasles, neo-puritans, self righteous people is a major reason for their success. They can do what they want and tell the story they like. Unlike DAI, where the Qunari are watered down from their DAO versions, where brothels are gone and where Desire Demons are nonexistent because feels.

[VelvetV]

People play video games as a form of escapism, they do not play just so they can get lectured on some social ideology. Video games are a means for human beings to experience and indulge in their fantasies in a harmless manner.

 

And what happens if games don't allow us to indulge in our fantasies? We have to shut up and avoid playing them, we have no chance to be heard and hope for games we'd enjoy more? Or do we have to wait 5 years until next time when such a rare game appears and be alright with that? Because for many people it's a problem that the games do not recognize their need to be an escapist. Yet someone else who is content always tells them to be silent.

 

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this. For example, let's say a game allows me personally to indulge in my fantasy. I happen to be a woman and I don't see a point in escaping into a fantasy of being helpless and abused. That isn't even healthy. So let's say that I prefer to play as a warrior woman who lives in a world where women aren't treated like crap. But then someone comes and says: whoa, this game "lectures" me on social ideology! It has an agenda!

 

But it does not. It just indulges fantasies of women that actually exist and that many of them actually want to play out in a game. How does that "lecture" anyone? It can only lecture those who object to such things ever becoming a reality and\or hate seeing them even in games.

 

I suspect that most objections happen not because people are closet haters of those "agendas" that they falsely see, though. It happens for a very simple reason instead: people feel that by giving an outlet for enjoyment to someone else, developers will create less content for them. And then they create a lot of unconvincing reasons why it should not be done, like these: it's unrealistic, the devs should tell the tale they want, etc. But ultimately it's all about fear that they will get less of what they have now, if needs of others start to get recognized. So by any means possible, needs of others start to get criticized as being ridiculous, which will never persuade anyone who happens to have those needs.

 

I hope this isn't a flame post and I hope I won't regret making it  I guess I need to learn to ignore people who make semi-troll posts as lost causes. 

[Shechinah]

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 The story being told so far is gritty with NPC remarks even racist as the Witcher is not loved by some peasants or thugs. Definitely different from the scrubbed white washed one in DAI. Remember, this is Europe in 1272 and the game seems to reflect the culture....

 

While I do think DAI portrayed less of the racism attitude than Origin and DA:2 did, I do not think Thedas would work very well if used to reflect the cultures of Europe in 1272 since Thedas has developed differently than the real world did and portraying a culture like the one of Europe during that time would likely work more against the lore than fit with it.

 

As a note, you may also want to specify which culture of Europe you are referring to since there are a lot of different cultures and religions. In addition, there were also different attitude towards things culture from culture.